The Flexi-8 / Lilla Rose Thread

[MidnightMoon]

Caitrìona, eadwine wow such pretties *-*
I just love the orange in the compass, and the bat looks cool, makes think of old horror movies hehe

[lapushka]

Lovely, Ani!

Lovely, eadwine. That bat is amazing. I did notice something about the texture of your hair; like it's more textured, and thicker, less slick. I like it! Or is that me, just imagining things. ;) :o

[eadwine]

It could be both hahaha

The texture seems to be changing, we'll have to wait and see what gives.

The number of grays is still the same despite going almost half way in my 40s, about 5 tops :lol:

I can thank my gran for that one!

[animetor7]

Lovely, Ani!

Lovely, eadwine. That bat is amazing. I did notice something about the texture of your hair; like it's more textured, and thicker, less slick. I like it! Or is that me, just imagining things. ;) :o

Thank you!! I like the bat a lot in everyone's hair!! He's so cute!! And that's interesting about your hair eadwine could your hormones be changing?

[eadwine]

Could be that that is it. I have noticed the shorter hairs on my head are much more curly now, so.. who knows.

[melesine]

I love everyone pics with their new toys. The autumn compass looks great, I hadn't seen a picture of that one before. I'm wearing my bat most of the time right now.

[lapushka]

Could be that that is it. I have noticed the shorter hairs on my head are much more curly now, so.. who knows.

Exciting times! I'm eager to see how it goes. :)

[animetor7]

So I think my medium bat flexi is a smidge too small for me. But in fiddling around with it I've figured out a way to use flexis that might not be quite large enough for your hair. What I've found is that by starting my bun with a ponytail rather than loose hair I don't have to grab as much hair for a solid hold as I normally would, in particular I don't have to go all the way to the scalp, just the top bit in the center of the bun. This makes it much easier to use a too small flexi and still have a rock solid hold for your bun. :)

[JadedByEntropy]

oh !! Caitrìona!! that autumn compass is so elegant! i love it! wonderful collection!

[JadedByEntropy]

https://s12.postimg.org/49l4bn8cd/flexi_8_night_fox_1.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/7t721gb21/)
https://s18.postimg.org/4xy31d8k9/flexi_8_night_fox_2.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/fkrw6sgph/)

got my new flexi very quickly!
And we're the same color! haha!

https://s10.postimg.org/7dc9j3tm1/fox_color_perky_me.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/l70m85m79/)

[Groovy Granny]

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got my new flexi very quickly!
And we're the same color! haha!

Great pics and hair flexis....but THIS is a perfect match (color and clip); love it :thumbsup: lol
Wish they had one for my shih tzu :hmm:

[jennareid]

Just saw some pics of their November clips. There's a gold holly clip, I've been wanting one for ages! Definitely gonna buy one even though the prices are so high.

[HeartofHaleth]

The amount of sheer gorgeousness in this thread...*shakes head*

New XS Arwen from Entangled:
http://i.imgur.com/kkgUKsN.jpg

[jennareid]

I'm so broke, but I ordered XL Emerald Joy and Holly Leaf. My hair's at a weird length where I can't really do much with a Flexi, too short for a LWB, too long for the twist I used to do with my Flexis, can't do a cinnabun cos the Flexi displaces too much hair. Probably going to be limited to half-ups with the rest wrapped around it.

[melesine]

When my hair got too long for a regular French twist I just kept twisting up until the ends twisted in and then the long top I just folded back down and twisted more until it was tight. I called it a double twist. I don't know, I just did it on my own and it's hard to describe. Since my chop a year ago though my hair is long enough to need to do it anymore.

[lithostoic]

What size should I get? BSL, 8cm circ.

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/14523245_1433962096620538_6943108461337810632_n.jp g?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=c0680c4807b4b43b0d2670390747a847&oe=588DE24E

[hobbitlocks]

lithostoic- Of course, it depends what you plan on doing with it, but I would say a small or medium. A small should work for pony tails (I like to use one to start braids) and may work for center held buns? I didn't get my first flexi until I was at waist, so I'm not sure about that. A medium may work better for buns and would keep working. I have a slightly larger circumference, and at hip I can still use a medium for a LWB.

I LOVE the holly, but I'm trying to decide if I want any others before I order...

[Theobroma]

I finally caved and got Autumn Compass... and Emerald Joy was a foregone conclusion because I love Crimson Joy and I've been stalking the LR site for more designs with green stones. :)

I really should leave it at that because Flexis are just too expensive these days... but North Star is sooo tempting! Would anyone by any chance know whether that design runs large or small? I'm wondering whether it might be too silver for my colouring in XL, but if it runs small (as Crimson Joy does) I won't be able to bun with a Large. Do we have a lurking consultant, perhaps, who's seen them in person and could shed some light?

[eadwine]

I got the north star :) Just now got word that it has been shipped.

[rags]

I finally caved and got Autumn Compass... and Emerald Joy was a foregone conclusion because I love Crimson Joy and I've been stalking the LR site for more designs with green stones. :)

I really should leave it at that because Flexis are just too expensive these days... but North Star is sooo tempting! Would anyone by any chance know whether that design runs large or small? I'm wondering whether it might be too silver for my colouring in XL, but if it runs small (as Crimson Joy does) I won't be able to bun with a Large. Do we have a lurking consultant, perhaps, who's seen them in person and could shed some light?

The North star is the first one that's tempted me in quite awhile too. Although I'm afraid it will have the hair-catching problems that compass rose does for me (most flexi's don't. That one does!). I shall also anxiously await Eadwine's photo!

[eadwine]

Aww *blush* Ok lol it is on its way :)

[MsPharaohMoan]

https://s12.postimg.org/49l4bn8cd/flexi_8_night_fox_1.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/7t721gb21/)
https://s18.postimg.org/4xy31d8k9/flexi_8_night_fox_2.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/fkrw6sgph/)

got my new flexi very quickly!
And we're the same color! haha!

https://s10.postimg.org/7dc9j3tm1/fox_color_perky_me.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/l70m85m79/)

Omg that's so cool! You guys look so alike and the flexi matches perfectly! What kind of pup?

[melesine]

I saw someone wearing a flexi when I was at the grocery store today. First time that's happened.

[JadedByEntropy]

Omg that's so cool! You guys look so alike and the flexi matches perfectly! What kind of pup?

I was super excited to find this flexi!
We're basically the same color, and I'm learning how much we have the same personality o.0
She's adopted 3months ago, and about 21 months old- Mostly a Schipperke, mix with most likely a husky. {i.e. Her intelligence will be the death of me}
Her tail also curls <3

[Rebeccalaurenxx]

Im trying to figure out my size in these as well.. I want to do buns.

[bjr]

Hi ladies! Samanthaa was kind enough to send me my first flexi8, and I promised I would post some action shots so... here goes! :)
http://i.imgur.com/ZUhjsgP.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/puBzzze.jpg?1

Btw, I can't believe how awesome these clips are! I usually need a million amish pins to keep my hair in a bun, and just one medium flexi did the trick. where have these been all my life!?! :D

[samanthaa]

Oh my gosh, wow, bjr, that flexi looks so much better in your hair than it ever did in mine! I love the placement in the last picture! I never thought to use it "off center." Your hair also looks incredibly soft!

I have action shots of my last remaining flexi. When I first joined, the Flexi-8s were the first toy that I became obsessed with and I ended up acquiring four over a couple of months, three of which have now been gifted away due to lack of use. I find that I tend toward a more simpler aesthetic, which is why I've held on only to my "simple band" (perfect for sleeping and showering in):

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25211&d=1478611641

I'm not balding, I swear. But growing out my henna makes me look like I am :P

[jennareid]

My holly and emerald clips came today. The holly is super cute, the centre stone on the emerald is completely wonky and looks awful. Hopefully I can exchange it for one that was made properly. Really annoying considering how much they charge for a single clip now.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/jennareid2/PHOTO_20161112_131244-1_zps8klhsv8k.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/jennareid2/PHOTO_20161112_131234_zpsgpra6pra.jpg

[bjr]

Oh my gosh, wow, bjr, that flexi looks so much better in your hair than it ever did in mine! I love the placement in the last picture! I never thought to use it "off center." Your hair also looks incredibly soft!

I have action shots of my last remaining flexi. When I first joined, the Flexi-8s were the first toy that I became obsessed with and I ended up acquiring four over a couple of months, three of which have now been gifted away due to lack of use. I find that I tend toward a more simpler aesthetic, which is why I've held on only to my "simple band" (perfect for sleeping and showering in):

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25211&d=1478611641

I'm not balding, I swear. But growing out my henna makes me look like I am :P

Aww thank you! And I love that simple flexi in your hair. The simple band is just perfect for everything!
Ha, your hair doesn't look like its balding! its just a nice ombre effect :D

[Theobroma]

My holly and emerald clips came today. The holly is super cute, the centre stone on the emerald is completely wonky and looks awful. Hopefully I can exchange it for one that was made properly. Really annoying considering how much they charge for a single clip now.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/jennareid2/PHOTO_20161112_131244-1_zps8klhsv8k.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/jennareid2/PHOTO_20161112_131234_zpsgpra6pra.jpg

A lot of my clips look like that when they arrive. I sort it out just by bending the wire. On your pic of the back of the clip, the ends of the wire interlock underneath the left-hand eyelet on the back of the centrepiece, making a joint there. That's why you get a sharper angle on that side than on the other side, where there's a continuous length of wire running through the eyelet. You can easily bend a corresponding kink into the wire on that side to make the shape more symmetrical. I do it all the time. Judging from the pic, there's nothing wrong with your clip that a bit of pressure from your fingers can't fix!

And that's a gorgeous clip. I've got one en route to me and now I can hardly wait for it to arrive. :)

[jennareid]

It doesn't really show well but those links behind the centerpiece are actually soldered on incorrectly. It's way off to one side :(

[lapushka]

Hi ladies! Samanthaa was kind enough to send me my first flexi8, and I promised I would post some action shots so... here goes! :)
http://i.imgur.com/ZUhjsgP.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/puBzzze.jpg?1

Btw, I can't believe how awesome these clips are! I usually need a million amish pins to keep my hair in a bun, and just one medium flexi did the trick. where have these been all my life!?! :D

They look great on you!


Oh my gosh, wow, bjr, that flexi looks so much better in your hair than it ever did in mine! I love the placement in the last picture! I never thought to use it "off center." Your hair also looks incredibly soft!

I have action shots of my last remaining flexi. When I first joined, the Flexi-8s were the first toy that I became obsessed with and I ended up acquiring four over a couple of months, three of which have now been gifted away due to lack of use. I find that I tend toward a more simpler aesthetic, which is why I've held on only to my "simple band" (perfect for sleeping and showering in):

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25211&d=1478611641

I'm not balding, I swear. But growing out my henna makes me look like I am :P

I get it. I grew out henna a few times as well. It gets easier, promise. I have a lot of these more toned down flexi8s BTW, easy to wear with whatever outfit. Pretty bun! :)

[Entangled]

The amount of sheer gorgeousness in this thread...*shakes head*

New XS Arwen from Entangled:
http://i.imgur.com/kkgUKsN.jpg

It looks great in your hair!

[eadwine]

Ok it's with flash, since we have fussy weather out here and I cannot get one properly focused without flash because it is too dark still at 8:30. So.. this will have to do for now. :)

http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o518/eadwine/Haarspul/starS.jpg

http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o518/eadwine/starclose.jpg

[animetor7]

Ok it's with flash, since we have fussy weather out here and I cannot get one properly focused without flash because it is too dark still at 8:30. So.. this will have to do for now. :)

http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o518/eadwine/Haarspul/starS.jpg

http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o518/eadwine/starclose.jpg

Pretty!! Dang it! Now you're making me regret not ordering the North Star earlier in the month. *Must remember to save money, not buy hair toys!!*

[eadwine]

*giggle* sorry!

[Rebeccalaurenxx]

So I bought my first flexi. Got it on ebay so I do not think its available on the lilla rose site anymore.
Size small.
I think I actually have too much hair and need a medium for my larger buns, I cant do tight buns as they lead to headaches. It CAN hold my hair in a lazy wrap bun, but thats about it. I love it though, very pretty. If I get annoyed with it ill probably but it up for swapping but, we will see! Its unique in a way. I am not keen on color so its perfect in all other ways.. lol
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l251/rray13/IMG_7607_zpsaqjqf7xy.jpg
This is the flexi in action:
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l251/rray13/FullSizeRender_zpsibklsafi.jpg

Sorry my photos are so large and... well, not great quality. Iphone cameras are all I have lol and poor light.

[Erynn42]

Very pretty! I have only seen the colored one of that style ever on the Lilla Rose site. Try putting the clips only around part of the bun at the top. Securing the entire bun with just part of the last loop and ends of hair, i stead of trying to do the whole bun. (Does that make since? ) I think that wouldn't be too tight for you, but still be able to wear that clip in a larger bun.

[Rebeccalaurenxx]

Very pretty! I have only seen the colored one of that style ever on the Lilla Rose site. Try putting the clips only around part of the bun at the top. Securing the entire bun with just part of the last loop and ends of hair, i stead of trying to do the whole bun. (Does that make since? ) I think that wouldn't be too tight for you, but still be able to wear that clip in a larger bun.

I tried to do that but it puts too much weight on the crown and its too much tension for me and causes a headache. I am sure i just need practice, i have only had it for about a day so i am still learning what buns work and what buns do not.

[Long_hair_bear]

I love the new silver fir and prancer in silver flexis..... Must. Not. Purchase.......

[Rebeccalaurenxx]

So I got a medium in the mail and that is also too small.. my hair pops out. I cant get flexis to work for me :(

[Theobroma]

My North Star Flexi arrived today.

And it has a quality issue. The moment I touched it I noticed that the beads were sitting VERY loosely on the loop and able to spin freely. On closer examination they're so loose that there would be room for an entire extra silver bead on the right side. (I don't think there's actually a bead missing; the problem seems to be that the wire is too long.) And the two little loops that connect the ends of the wires underneath the centrepiece are off-centre, which places the star at an angle and puts an odd, lopsided kink into the loop when worn.

Ugh, this really isn't good enough given the price of these clips nowadays! I hope their customer service is still as good as it used to be, because this one's got to go back, unfortunately.

[eadwine]

I hadn't even noticed until now but one of my tiny crystals is not sitting in its slot but next to it. It is not loose or anything thank goodness so you don't notice, but yeah.. a little annoying now that I DO know.

I'll take a picture of it during the daytime and mail customer service about it. These things are expensive enough indeed.

[Libbylou]

This question is for those that have tried "U" pins from Lila Rose. I know they come in pairs. Do they hold the hair alone, or do you need some other means to hold your hair and use them for embellishment?
I am excited about the Black Friday sale. I bought several flexi's at last year's sale. I only bought one this year at the local fair. I only attended one fair though, as they seem to eat my pocketbook:)

[Theobroma]

Libbylou, a pair of "U" pins will easily hold my classic-length hair with no extra tools needed. I've used them for French twists and for cinnabun-type updos and they hold very stably.

[lapushka]

I hadn't even noticed until now but one of my tiny crystals is not sitting in its slot but next to it. It is not loose or anything thank goodness so you don't notice, but yeah.. a little annoying now that I DO know.

I'll take a picture of it during the daytime and mail customer service about it. These things are expensive enough indeed.

Ugh that sucks! :(

[Theobroma]

Well, I photographed the issues with my clip and sent the images to their service email asking for an exchange. Here's hoping...

[eadwine]

Fingers crossed! I got home too late to have daytime left, so it'll be for tomorrow.

[Alyandra]

Hello :o
I have been following this thread for a while, and I now would like to be a part of it!
I love flexis! I have very thin hair, between APL and BSL, but my cinnabun is so small that it gets fully caged in a Medium, and a half-up fits in an XS. That's why I like flexis: they make my hair look prettier even though it's so thin.
Special thanks to Eadwine for all the pictures you post of the flexis you buy, it has helped me many times to see what the flexis really look like and decide whether or not I want one too! I have quite a big collection myself ;-).
I wish you all a Happy Black Friday Sale!
<3<3<3

[rags]

This question is for those that have tried "U" pins from Lila Rose. I know they come in pairs. Do they hold the hair alone, or do you need some other means to hold your hair and use them for embellishment?
I am excited about the Black Friday sale. I bought several flexi's at last year's sale. I only bought one this year at the local fair. I only attended one fair though, as they seem to eat my pocketbook:)

I think some depends on your hair texture, too. My hair is BSL currently, but even at anywhere from APL to hip, the u-pins will sometimes hold a cinnamon for me, but not a French twist by itself. My hair is just too slippery and fine, and they tend to slide out. Capacity wise, they're more than enough, but my hair spits out most metal toys eventually (Quattro being the exception). That said, they do hold a bun for me reasonably well as long as I just push them back in once every couple of hours. The twist, they won't work mostly because I just don't have enough hair I think. They hold fine in my daughter's fine hair which is thicker than mine.

Theobroma, I hope they'll exchange it for you!

Welcome, Alyandra! :waving:

[Quasiquixotic]

Does anyone know if they will be rereleasing the fotm clips for Black Friday this year?

[eadwine]

Check the site! ;)

[KittyBird]

I bought the honey bee in xs. I have it in xl, but I can't wear that size anymore, so I'm thrilled to soon have a little bee in my hair again! :D

[Crystawni]

Yay, KittyBird! That's sweet!

My order went through so much easier this year, even though I had to re-do my pre-sale cart with the discounts included. :wethree: And then I made it to the free shipping amount, only to find one of my items was even cheaper at checkout, so had to go back and add something else, because, yanno, goodies in hand be much more betters than throwing money away on a potential freebie.

My damage, after patiently :brains: waiting for months, and months, and months until this sale to buy:
Sea Treasures--mini
Flip Flops, and Dragon--small
Dark Camel, Black, and Beige leather thingies--small
Cream leather thingy--XL (small was sold out before the sale, but this ended up being my cheaper-at-checkout buy).
Aurora Borealis U Pins, and a squared Rose Gold U Pin.

:bounce:

[jennareid]

Just loaded up 12 clips in my cart, clicked into it to thin the herd, and it had emptied the cart completely. Thanks, LR! Why do I bother?

[melesine]

This question is for those that have tried "U" pins from Lila Rose. I know they come in pairs. Do they hold the hair alone, or do you need some other means to hold your hair and use them for embellishment?
I am excited about the Black Friday sale. I bought several flexi's at last year's sale. I only bought one this year at the local fair. I only attended one fair though, as they seem to eat my pocketbook:)

A single u-pin holds my hair in a bun perfectly fine. They did even when it was longer. I do need two for a french twist though, although I prefer just using a flexi 8 for french twists.

[melesine]

I ordered winter wonder in XS, large and in u-pins and also picked up those skull bobbies I wanted.

[Theobroma]

Thanks, rags! No reply from them so far, but I suppose they have their hands full with the Black Friday sale...

[eadwine]

There is not a crystal shifted like I thought at first, it is simply not there.

I have mailed customer service now, my consultant is also keeping an eye on things.

This is one of three pics (those I sent are much larger than this here) that I sent along with my mail. It is quite clear here what is going on. Or rather, NOT going on ;)


http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o518/eadwine/Haarspul/northstardefect.jpg

[jennareid]

FINALLY managed to order. Honey Bee, Hibiscus Sea, Sable & Charlotte in XL. Tudor Rose in L cos I remember someone (Eadwine, was it you?) having sizing issues with them running large.

[eadwine]

Must have been me, yes. I posted comparison pics and all.

[hobbitlocks]

I got a large copper bow and a medium winter wonder and holly. I'm going to be looking very festive soon :)

As far as the u-pins -- I have a set and I have had a lot of trouble reliably getting them to work. Sometimes I can, but only a couple of times have I gotten them to hold all day in a style that looks nice. They are very pretty though (I have the copper rose ones) so I keep fiddling with them.

[Alyandra]

Thanks Rags! :o
Eadwine, I hope they will do something about it. I had ordered a Plum hair stick but didn't realize immediately that there was a small chink on the upper bead, just near the metal pin head (a 2-mm circle of light violet paint is missing). Unfortunately Plum hair sticks had completely sold out in the meantime. Lilla Rose replied that I could send it back and exchange it for another style, but a) I must pay for the shipping fee, which will be higher than the item itself, and b) I would rather keep it than exchanging it for another style.
I am not happy at all with having to pay the shipping fee back to exchange a defective item :-(

[eadwine]

Then mail them again , because that is not right. When I had to ship those way too large leather ones back (to Germany) they reimbursed the fee.

[Theobroma]

They finally replied to my email -- and it turns out that, like Alyandra, I have to pay postage to Germany to return the faulty clip.

This may be my cue to decide I have enough Flexis. Being penalised for their mistake is just not acceptable. :(

[eadwine]

Hrmmm.. I haven't heard anything yet, but I am going to mail my consultant, this is not really a nice thing!

[Theobroma]

Yes, I'll be notifying my consultant too. If only to let her know why she's likely to get a lot less business from me in the future. These clips have become expensive enough without adding an extra penalty onto the purchase price and it's just not on.

Especially since, frankly, I have so many Flexis already that I could quite happily go the rest of my natural life without buying another. Unless I lose or break one that I absolutely need for a specific purpose, which is only the braided 8s really, there's no objective reason why I'd need to risk buying internationally from a company with dodgy customer care.

[Theobroma]

Update:

I've now had a closer read at the PDF they sent me with instructions for how to return an item for exchange or refund.

Turns out that if you return a clip -- EVEN A DEFECTIVE CLIP -- for a refund they won't even refund the shipping on the original purchase unless you mail the item back to the US. In other words, if I decide I don't want to risk receiving yet another defective clip in exchange, I'll get the purchase price back but will be out BOTH the $4 shipping charge from LR to my location AND the cost of mailing the defective clip to their returns address in Germany.

And the paperwork is beyond belief. You have to print out and fill in that PDF and include it in your envelope along with printouts of any emails about the exchange. That's going to pad out the package so much it'll cost even MORE to ship just to Germany, let alone back to the US.

Really, this is NOT GOOD ENOUGH. They've gone from completely uncomplicated replacements to this huge rigmarole that financially penalises the buyer for the company's mistakes; if they stick to this policy then I am seriously done with Lilla Rose. No hairtoy is worth this much hassle.

[jennareid]

I'm waiting on my replacement Emerald Joy and I agree, the return process is ridiculous. You have to fill in a form, print out all emails, provide the order number, and for the US postage, you have to go to some dodgy looking USPS page and enter all the info yourself. I've never had to go through stuff like this for a return with any other company. Everyone else will provide you with a return label you just have to print out, and a little slip to put inside the package. Also, when I printed from the USPS site I thought LR would email me a tracking number, but they don't, and I didn't print myself a copy. So I had no idea where the package was once it left.

Keep complaining, Theobroma. It's absurd that you should have to pay for their mistakes. This is customer service 101.

[Theobroma]

The entire new returns process is just ridiculous. Don't they keep copies of their emails, that they need us to pay to post printouts by snail mail?

BTW this is the main issue with the clip I received:

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25349&d=1480171855

The other one is that the centrepiece is askew on the loop, but that's a relatively minor matter compared to the loose beads.

[eadwine]

O_O Geez...

This is not the service that I know.. that is for sure.

[Theobroma]

No, I agree.

I've kept buying from them over the years because I always knew that if something did go wrong (and it rarely did; this is only the second faulty clip I've ever received) the company would see me right without fuss. But apparently that's now a thing of the past.

It's sad to think that Lilla Rose has gone from having some of the best customer care on the Internet to being one of the worst people to deal with if there's an issue. :(

[Alyandra]

I have written back to LR to say I was not happy with paying the shipping fee back to their EU center, which would mean that after having paid my item once, I would have to pay additional shipping fee to get it exchanged for another style, since the one I have is out of stock (and a limited edition apparently).
This is what they replied : 'We will reimburse you up to $4.00 for shipping. Just scan and email us the receipt for your postage.'
This is better than nothing but it doesn't solve my problem: I don't want another style. So I'll just keep my hairstick and simply make the chink face towards my head when using it.




It's sad to think that Lilla Rose has gone from having some of the best customer care on the Internet to being one of the worst people to deal with if there's an issue. :(

I totally agree with you Theobrama.
This summer they made a mistake when sending a headband, they included the wrong kind of elastic (a silver one, not a black nickel one). I emailed them and they told me that they would replace it immediately and that I could keep the elastic. They didn't even ask for a picture.
In October, I ordered two Hawaiian bobby pins because they were nearly out of stock (same order as my hairstick). A few days later, they wrote and told me that they had made a mistake and had no more set of two bobby pins, there was only one bobby pin left, everything else being sold out. They wanted to know if I wanted my money back, or the Hawaiiaan bobby plus another one of my choice, or another set of my choice. I replied that I was not happy at all because this was their mistake but I was the one not getting the bobby pins. Since I had chosen to keep the Hawaiian bobby pin and a butterfly bobby pin, they told me that they would send a set of 2 butterflies along with the lonely Hawaiian one.

I feel that now, you need to insist to get something from them when it is not your mistake...

[Theobroma]

I feel that now, you need to insist to get something from them when it is not your mistake...

That's certainly what it looks like! And honestly, if we have to put up a fight every time something goes wrong, it just isn't worth the effort any more. :(

Good to know, at least, that they agreed to reimburse your postage. I'm going to write to them again and insist they do the same for me, and that they accept a scanned return form and waive the ridiculous requirement to send paper copies of all the emails. If I have to stuff so much paper into the envelope it's going to cost way more postage than they're willing to reimburse!

[jennareid]

Hahaha I just got my replacement Emerald Joy and it's wonky like the other one. It seriously looks like they just put the original clip back in the bag and returned it to me.

[Theobroma]

Hahaha I just got my replacement Emerald Joy and it's wonky like the other one. It seriously looks like they just put the original clip back in the bag and returned it to me.

Oh good grief, what is WRONG with LR these days? This gives me no confidence whatsoever that they'll be able to replace mine with one that isn't defective in some way.

Jennareid, I suggest making a HUGE stink about this. You've already gone through that whole absurd business with the returns form and the email printouts once, right? And now you have to go through the motions again with no guarantee that they won't just stuff the clip right back into an envelope and mail it to you a third time? This is beyond ridiculous!

[hobbitlocks]

Oh good grief, what is WRONG with LR these days? This gives me no confidence whatsoever that they'll be able to replace mine with one that isn't defective in some way.

Jennareid, I suggest making a HUGE stink about this. You've already gone through that whole absurd business with the returns form and the email printouts once, right? And now you have to go through the motions again with no guarantee that they won't just stuff the clip right back into an envelope and mail it to you a third time? This is beyond ridiculous!

Do they have a twitter or facebook or is it only the individual consultants who have social media? I (luckily) haven't had any issues with LR, but I know if you post about your issues publicly like that things seem to get taken care of faster. But I don't know what a consultant could do for you, so you probably need to find the corporate account.

[jennareid]

I already emailed them. At this point I don't care about a refund or replacement. I'll wear it, it's just annoying. But I definitely won't be ordering any full price clips again, I told them their customer service is a huge disappointment, it's a major hassle the way they have returns set up, and I also mentioned that charging international customers to return faulty clips does NOT make them look good at all. My sale order yesterday will most likely be my last for a long time. $28/XL is not something I'm willing to pay anymore.

[eadwine]

Do they have a twitter or facebook or is it only the individual consultants who have social media? I (luckily) haven't had any issues with LR, but I know if you post about your issues publicly like that things seem to get taken care of faster. But I don't know what a consultant could do for you, so you probably need to find the corporate account.

This is their facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/Lilla-Rose-Inc-287984238183/

[Theobroma]

And it turns out they have a Twitter account, but it hasn't been updated since February: https://twitter.com/lillarose

[Cinnamonagouti]

Do you think a xs would fit my half-ups (ponytail circumference 9 cm)? Obviously it depends on how much hair I put in, but I feel like a small would be too big?

[jennareid]

I ended up getting an email back saying they'll hand pick another and send it for free. She also mentioned that they'll pay up to a certain amount for international returns. It really should be 100% though.

[hobbitlocks]

Do you think a xs would fit my half-ups (ponytail circumference 9 cm)? Obviously it depends on how much hair I put in, but I feel like a small would be too big?

I think an XS wold work -- I agree a small would be too big -- my ponytail is a bit smaller (probably like 8.5 cm) and I use smalls for a ponytail. Personally, I use a mini for half ups, but I don't actually put half of my hair back when I wear a half up.

[Cinnamonagouti]

I think an XS wold work -- I agree a small would be too big -- my ponytail is a bit smaller (probably like 8.5 cm) and I use smalls for a ponytail. Personally, I use a mini for half ups, but I don't actually put half of my hair back when I wear a half up.
Thanks! I ended up getting an autumn compass in L, hoping it will work for centre-held buns, and a flitter in XS. I paid a total of 26 USD (and only 4 USD for shipping, thought it would be way more expensive. How much do you usually pay for shipping to Europe?). Already starting to regret I didn't also get the Keltic Lore in XL, though. Maybe another time :)

[Theobroma]

I ended up getting an email back saying they'll hand pick another and send it for free. She also mentioned that they'll pay up to a certain amount for international returns. It really should be 100% though.

That's great, jennareid -- but honestly, hand-picking a non-defective clip is what they should have done in the first place! As for international returns, their form says that they'll pay up to $4 if you post the defective clip to their US address, but not if you post it to their German address. Trouble is, postage to the US costs more than $4 even without bulking up the envelope with all that ridiculous paperwork they want you to include (email printouts -- my mind is still boggling at that one).

It's unacceptable on every level; returns should be free -- especially if the reason for sending a clip back is because they shipped out a defective one!

[Theobroma]

Thanks! I ended up getting an autumn compass in L, hoping it will work for centre-held buns, and a flitter in XS. I payed a total of 26 USD (and only 4 USD for shipping, thought it would be way more expensive. How much do you usually pay for shipping to Europe?). Already starting to regret I didn't also get the Keltic Lore in XL, though. Maybe another time :)

$4 is their usual international shipping rate. (Unless their system glitches. I've been charged $4.95 before for no reason I could reconstruct, except that the site was spitting out errors at me and it took hours to get the order through at all.) Be careful about putting too many clips in one order, though, since the total value of the parcel may make you liable for customs charges in your country, in which case it would be considerably cheaper to place two orders and pay those $4 twice.

Also, we are currently learning that returns are now a major PITA, so be aware that if they send you a defective clip, exchanges are complicated and you'll probably have to pay for return shipping even though it isn't your fault. :(

[Cinnamonagouti]

I looked that up before ordering, and apparently you're only liable for customs if the total value exceeds 1500 SEK (about 162 USD), so it shouldn't be a problem in my case. Then there's 25% VAT, of course...

Sucks about the returns, you really shouldn't need to pay for their mistakes. Let's hope my flexis will fit - I was a bit unsure if L or XL would be most suitable. But the autumn compass was out of stock in XL, so I got the L.

[eadwine]

Wow.. the value here tops off at 22 euros, which is a little over $23. 21% VAT here.

[Theobroma]

So I wrote to them again and then had to prod them a second time again because they don't seem to be answering their emails first time round at the moment. I got this reply about the issue of paying return postage and bulking up the envelope with all those printouts:


We do refund up to $4.00 US Dollars for the postage paid by you. It will not be necessary to return all paperwork. A copy of your Order Number and the form will suffice for an exchange. The process for exchange, at this time, will not be necessary we will be happy to process the exchange for you as a one time courtesy. On all future exchanges we will require the item to be returned for quality control claim issues. Thank you for being a Lilla Rose customer.

So apparently, just this once, and after my spending days on email communications, they're waiving the whole returns rigmarole and will send me a replacement clip with no further action on my part. That's nice of them of course, but it would have been even nicer if I hadn't had to make such a big fuss in order to get the kind of treatment from them that one would get as a matter of course from any mail order business around here! I'm still not left with much confidence in the company for the purpose of future orders, and I've abandoned the idea of putting together another order on the Black Friday/Cyber Monday sale...

eadwine, how did you get on with the issue of the missing crystal on yours?

[eadwine]

I have not even received a reply yet, so that is going quite well I must say ;)

[Theobroma]

Oh geez. At least they aren't singling me out for special treatment in ignoring my mails until I poke them! Maybe they're short-handed?

Anyway, I hope you get your issue sorted out soon.

[eadwine]

I'll keep you posted on what happens. I am sure my consultant will put the pressure on when/if it is needed :)

They are severely understaffed IMHO, so it is not strange that it takes a while for them to respond. And nope I check my junk folder every day, so replies didn't go there :)

[Theobroma]

Well, I caved and placed my Cyber Monday order despite all the hassle with the returns policy.

So now I need to cross fingers for TWO envelopes not to contain defective items! Here's hoping. :)

[eadwine]

Crossing them with you!!

[Groovy Granny]

Wow...it is sad to read these recent developments.... between the rise in cost, shoddy construction, and return hassles! :agape:
I am relieved I got mine when I did ....am not a collector.....and had no issues :p
Good luck to you all with your purchases and returns/exchanges :cheer:

[two_wheels]

I caved for the holly leaf flexi because I am super naff and love Christmas, plus it was reduced so will probably come in under the customs limit...
I'm not very fussy but it had better not be missing a crystal or Christmas Will Be Ruined.
Good luck my EU buddies!

[enfys]

Well this is a lovely read. I do hope my order arrives with everything in one piece, and all its pieces! I'm really sad to see the decline people are talking about. It's been years and years since I've bought any because international orders scare me; problems are so much harder to resolve :couch: Optimistically, I ordered loads. Like 8 Flexi8s...

Hopefully we all get our parcels soon and in good condition!

[Theobroma]

Thanks, eadwine and two_wheels! Hope everyone else's prove to be flawless as well.

[Borgessa]

I got mine today, and i am in love with them. Only got a couple of small ones, but my hair is not thick. I hope they'll hold one of my pathetically small buns lol... But its so cute I just love an owl!

http://i68.tinypic.com/fzagbb.jpg

[hobbitlocks]

The owl looks so great in your hair, Borgessa! Good choice!

[Theobroma]

Borgessa, Hoot is one of my all-time-favourite Flexi designs, and I absolutely love it in your hair!

[MidnightMoon]

Is it me or this month's flexi is a tad weird? :p

[Borgessa]

Thanks, I like the browns in it too goes well with the owls i bought a couple more, (a green dragonfly, and a silver and blue decorative thingy) they are all xtra small, i may have to get a few larger ones.. so i can wear them in a twist or something. Not sure how to do all the buns yet, just learned how to use sticks.

I didn't know they did monthly ones ? I am put off buying more because of the cost, by the time its converted to my currency, its a bit much, for xsmall came out at $22 American dollars, which is like a gazillion nz dollars. Well not quiet but close. Postage wasn't bad thou compared to a lot of other places.

[MidnightMoon]

yeah, they release a special model every month which then retires and only comes back at certain times of the year, like a special sale or something, if at all
theyre usually on top with the tag "dec 2016" or well, whatever month it is

[samanthaa]

Is it me or this month's flexi is a tad weird? :p

I don't like that the centerpiece is sideways. The tree itself is also kind of awkward? It's like a puny stick with huge bulbs on it.

[Alyandra]

I don't like that the centerpiece is sideways. The tree itself is also kind of awkward? It's like a puny stick with huge bulbs on it.

I have bought a golden M one, currently on its way to me. I see the centerpiece not as a tree but as a branch fallen on the ground, with blobs of snow resting on it :-).

Well, I like it, but only in larger sizes (starting from M). In smaller sizes, I think that the pearls on the branch are too close from those on the loops, and they all blend together. Also, I like the golden one waayyyy better than the silver one, the white pearls don't show enough on silver. I'm a brunette and the gold and white will contrast with my hair :-).

I'll try to post a picture when it arrives.

Has anyone else caved in for the December FOTM?

[Borgessa]

yeah, they release a special model every month which then retires and only comes back at certain times of the year, like a special sale or something, if at all
theyre usually on top with the tag "dec 2016" or well, whatever month it is

Ahh I see it now, personally I've never been into the holiday themed stuff. Not my kinda thing.

[eadwine]

Well, that is clear then:


Exchange: (must be within 90 days of purchase)
Item is unused and in the same condition that you received it.
You must pay for return postage back to the Lilla Rose U.S. or E.U. returns depot.
Lilla Rose will pay for the shipping of your replacement item back to you.

We'll see how this is going to go. Needless to say my consultant knows.

[lapushka]

WTH. WTH happened with them? I'm reading all these disappointed messages all of a sudden.

That's a big difference!

[Fru fru]

Sorry to hear about all the trouble some of you are having, such a shame customer service is not what it was.

I took advantage of Black Friday and bought this XL dragonfly, I've been wanting to get it for a while but customs charges were putting me off.
http://i1321.photobucket.com/albums/u556/suzehaylett/2689717E-A7C1-4EAC-BD2B-ADDEBFFD1ECC_zpsqu2scnfe.jpg (http://s1321.photobucket.com/user/suzehaylett/media/2689717E-A7C1-4EAC-BD2B-ADDEBFFD1ECC_zpsqu2scnfe.jpg.html)

[eadwine]

Two new flexis from the black Friday sale.

:lol: my hair looks like how I feel at the moment, and even the pics are out of focus, but yeah.. this is them ;)


http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o518/eadwine/Haarspul/love.jpg http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o518/eadwine/Haarspul/turt.jpg

[lapushka]

Very pretty, Fru Fru & eadwine! I esp. love that turtle. :)

[eadwine]

Thanks! My consultant put that turtle through hell when testing the tubed flexis. Slept and showered with it and all. The only thing we don't know yet is how it will hold up in the long run, over a longer period of time (say years).

But it's cute!

[Rebeccalaurenxx]

Are there specific buns that work best for flexis? I cant seem to get them to work for me.
Small or medium wont hold up my hair, or some of my hair gets caught between the "stick" and the 8.
I cant get them to work for me :(

[sourgrl]

Fru Fru, I've been eyeing that particular flexi for the longest time. Your action shot has sold me on it. That looks lovely in your hair.

[eadwine]

Are there specific buns that work best for flexis? I cant seem to get them to work for me.
Small or medium wont hold up my hair, or some of my hair gets caught between the "stick" and the 8.
I cant get them to work for me :(

I make a loop around my fingers, then twist the tail and ends around the base, then put the loop over that and stick the pin through the loop. Always works for me.

[Rebeccalaurenxx]

I make a loop around my fingers, then twist the tail and ends around the base, then put the loop over that and stick the pin through the loop. Always works for me.

Okay! Thank you, ill try that. The flexi seems to also be too heavy for me, kind of hurts my head lol but I want to keep trying.

[eadwine]

Medium should work for you with this one. It does for me. I can also handle an L with this bun, just have to stick it in the outer edge of the loop (and have it come out in the outer edge as well, of course).

[lapushka]

Okay! Thank you, ill try that. The flexi seems to also be too heavy for me, kind of hurts my head lol but I want to keep trying.

Might it be that you're only APL and that your hair is still too short for buns?

[eadwine]

I could do this bun at that length.. just don't twist the hair at all when making the loop. Also.. reduce the number of fingers you loop around. I started off with as little as two :)

And if it cannot be held up with this bun, the hair will need to be a little longer, indeed, for this to hold.

[Rebeccalaurenxx]

Might it be that you're only APL and that your hair is still too short for buns?

My hair is BSL stretched.

[lapushka]

My hair is BSL stretched.

Yeah, I'm hip and I can barely do a LWB. It all depends. :)

[Rebeccalaurenxx]

Yeah, I'm hip and I can barely do a LWB. It all depends. :)

The problem isnt if I can do buns because I can and they hold up very well with spin pins and sticks and most other toys, the problem is I cant seem to get the flexi to hold buns in my hair, flexi only. The flexi, both small and medium, is too heavy for my hair and scalp/head and pops off like as if I have too much hair, my hair almost swallows them or the flexi gets hair caught within itself. They hurt me so i refrain from wearing them, but assume I am doing something wrong. So thats why I am wondering what I am doing wrong or if there is a specific bun I need to accomplish for a flexi to work for me.

[lapushka]

The problem isnt if I can do buns because I can and they hold up very well with spin pins and sticks and most other toys, the problem is I cant seem to get the flexi to hold buns in my hair, flexi only. The flexi, both small and medium, is too heavy for my hair and scalp/head and pops off like as if I have too much hair, my hair almost swallows them or the flexi gets hair caught within itself. They hurt me so i refrain from wearing them, but assume I am doing something wrong. So thats why I am wondering what I am doing wrong or if there is a specific bun I need to accomplish for a flexi to work for me.

Hmm. What if you do a bun with spin pins, and they sort of layer the Flexi on top, more as decoration, until you can wear it by itself.

[two_wheels]

Rebeccalaurenxx, my hair did this too (got tangled in the flexi or the flexi felt heavy). It still kind of does occasionally - I feel like it goes through phases according to exactly how long it is. I think it's because depending how long it is, the ends come out in a different place in a lazy wrap bun or a nautilus.

Anyway a lazy wrap bun with a medium flexi was best for me at your length. But if it doesn't work... don't bin the flexi yet... try again in 3 months, maybe your hair does the changing-its-mind thing that mine does :)

[jennareid]

My sale order came today, and another Emerald Joy replacement they sent for free (it's still not perfectly straight but better than the first two attempts). I love the Sable, it's the perfect basic black clip.

http://i68.tinypic.com/33vcfgx.jpg

DEFINITELY size down if buying the stick-less 8s. I bought L instead of XL because I heard they run small. It's exactly the same size as the XL clips. They really need to relabel them. Here it is held over the Sable.

http://i68.tinypic.com/hs9m4k.jpg

[eadwine]

Yep.. I ordered an M, got a size L and they went high and low that this is what they were meant to be as M.

Right.

At least I can make an L work, but on those leather like ones the size difference was ridiculous.

Nice haul you got there!

[lapushka]

Yep.. I ordered an M, got a size L and they went high and low that this is what they were meant to be as M.

Right.

At least I can make an L work, but on those leather like ones the size difference was ridiculous.

Nice haul you got there!

Yes, I especially like that honey bee. It's so cute! :D

[Theobroma]

Nice haul, jennareid! But I suspect they sent you that braided 8 in XL by mistake. I have two XLs and they're both exactly the size of a regular beaded XL, so I think that what you've got there is probably an XL too.

[melesine]

I ordered winter wonder in XS, large and in u-pins and also picked up those skull bobbies I wanted.

My order came today and I love everything. These are my first bobbies from them and boy are they strong and tight. I just wanted them for when I feel like pulling my hair back a little on one side but getting them off without ripping my hair off wasn't easy.

[Cinnamonagouti]

I wish my order would arrive soon!! The tracking page has been stuck at "in transit to country" for nine days now. I'm planning to cut my hair back to hip (or a little shorter) but for some reason I really want to try on the flexis with my current length first.

[lapushka]

I wish my order would arrive soon!! The tracking page has been stuck at "in transit to country" for nine days now. I'm planning to cut my hair back to hip (or a little shorter) but for some reason I really want to try on the flexis with my current length first.

That's a little odd. Which country are you in? Maybe it's stuck at customs.

[eadwine]

Has it left USA already, or?

[Cinnamonagouti]

That's a little odd. Which country are you in? Maybe it's stuck at customs.
I live in Sweden. Yeah, maybe... Let's hope it isn't lost.

eadwine, I'm not sure. The latest location given is "in transit to country" somewhere in California (1/12).

[eadwine]

In Transit To Country Los Angeles, CA


Yeah in that case you have to wait. It has been scanned out, and it should get scanned upon arrival in your country:


In Country Amsterdam, Netherlands


That is what happens to all my flexis :)

However for ME the time between those two statuses is between a day and about 3 days, so this is taking a while indeed.

I'd wait until mid next week to make sure you hop well over the weekend, and then mail them if it is still not there.

[Kake]

I was just about to jump in and say me too (order placed at the end of November), but I just now got a notification from the PO about a customs fee. I'm in the UK.

Maybe your package is close Cinammongouti?

[eadwine]

Or when it takes longer you can count on a fee? It never takes that long for me after all, but then I have never had to pay a fee either.

[Kake]

I have to pay a customs fee (£11), but the p&p was very low, so I'm OK with the customs fee.

[eadwine]

Isn't it so that you have to pay that fee PLUS a percentage of the purchase value?

[Kake]

I just got a bill for a customs fee, there was no itemisation included, so I'm not sure what it covers.

[enfys]

http://i.imgur.com/E5SsCZ3.jpg

My haul arrived! The tracking hadn't updated with Globegistics because it wasn't scanned in, but it progressed as normal. I emailed Lilla Rose who checked and found it was in the UK yesterday. I got a card this morning for £30 handling charge and tax, but I calculated it would be that before ordering, so it's all good.

Anyone with weird tracking should try emailing as if orders are lost,we're running out of time for international shipping to allow delivery before the Christmas break.

Am I imagining the XLs are all smaller than a few years ago? The are bigger than my old Ls but all seem smaller despite the sticks being the same length.

[Cinnamonagouti]

Or when it takes longer you can count on a fee? It never takes that long for me after all, but then I have never had to pay a fee either.
In Sweden you're only liable for customs if the total value exceeds 1500 SEK (about 162 USD), so it shouldn't be a problem in my case as my order is only worth 22 USD. I have to pay 25% VAT but other than that i shouldn't get any fees.

[Cinnamonagouti]

I wish my order would arrive soon!! The tracking page has been stuck at "in transit to country" for nine days now. I'm planning to cut my hair back to hip (or a little shorter) but for some reason I really want to try on the flexis with my current length first.
The package is in Stickholm now! So hopefully it will arrive to me tomorrow :)

[Crystawni]

Nice haul, enfys! My tracking stopped once my order reached my country a week ago, then...


Yay, KittyBird! That's sweet!

My order went through so much easier this year, even though I had to re-do my pre-sale cart with the discounts included. :wethree: And then I made it to the free shipping amount, only to find one of my items was even cheaper at checkout, so had to go back and add something else, because, yanno, goodies in hand be much more betters than throwing money away on a potential freebie.

My damage, after patiently :brains: waiting for months, and months, and months until this sale to buy:
Sea Treasures--mini
Flip Flops, and Dragon--small
Dark Camel, Black, and Beige leather thingies--small
Cream leather thingy--XL (small was sold out before the sale, but this ended up being my cheaper-at-checkout buy).
Aurora Borealis U Pins, and a squared Rose Gold U Pin.

:bounce:

My order arrived this morning, and it all checks out well! Phew! Actually, I'm stoked! I'm also glad I bought the small sized leather thingies for my ponytails instead of downsizing them. Even though, when laying them on top of my medium metal flexis, they're bigger, once I thread one of my sticks through them they're a tight fit. A squeeze, even, although I get the same squeeze with my normal small flexis. Pics will come in the next few days.

[Kake]

I'm in love! My first flexis have arrived and I adore them.

[Mammasaurusrex]

Is there anyone here that sells these that would like to be my consultant? I don't have the money currently but I would like to purchase some soon.

[Crystawni]

Here are pics of my Black Friday order that arrived yesterday:

https://i.imgur.com/1m2lPjC.jpg


And for comparison, a size medium over the small leather 8, and size mega over the XL leather 8.
Below that are 2 small flexis as viewed from above; the leather one with a Maple Burl stick. Neither give me any wriggle room in a ponytail.

https://i.imgur.com/jpO5HZ4.jpg


All in action apart from the AB U pins for now as my hair was driving me nuts, sticking to my hands waaaaay too much in this humidity. The flattened, hammered ends of the squared U Pin are a little tricky to get in--gently, so no hairs get pulled, but it's light and holds up beautifully (I'd say it's comparable to my Quattro StarLites). As for those leather 8s? They are AMAZING! So light, grip tight and hold like a rock without you knowing they're there. And for ponytails and styles that touch your skin, there's no metal to deal with. They work equally well with acrylic sticks like Ead and ONN, as well as twisty sticks like CM and Mamacats, as well as other wooden sticks like the Maple Burls I've used with my small leather 8s.


Dark Camel leather 8, Beige Leather 8, and Dragon: small

https://i.imgur.com/HrbAVlO.jpg



Black Leather 8, and Flip Flops: small

https://i.imgur.com/GXjFpBw.jpg


Sea Treasures: mini/XXS, Squared Rose Gold U Pin, Cream Leather 8: XL in a rushed plopped bun (thanks to rain incoming) that does this 8 no favours (stick is from Crockett Mountain)

https://i.imgur.com/F9lUqi3.jpg

[SwordWomanRiona]

Got the November flexi of the month, really like it :)

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-knzD7HvnMtM/WFLRlw1YgaI/AAAAAAAACT0/jAxxWa8e0HMhydEYXNo5nyMeZHM6wbc5gCLcB/s400/DSCN4410.JPG

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-m08ZjWS-U94/WFLVA3NklfI/AAAAAAAACUE/sWOdn9lzcWkeqyETYBVsmu3_Q5xFQ72XQCLcB/s640/DSCN4446.JPG

[hobbitlocks]

It looks so nice in your hair, SWR!

[eadwine]

Flexi that is being exchanged, the North Star, I just got a partial return in my paypal for shipping the thing to Germany, and I have a new tracking number now for the replacement Flexi.

Wait and see how this is going to go!

I don't know if I got the shipping fee returned because of the note on the return form (told them in no uncertain terms that I was NOT happy with having to pay return shipping for something that is THEIR fault), or because my consultant called them.

Either way, things are rolling again.

[Theobroma]

Glad your replacement is under way, eadwine!

Mine allegedly shipped on the 6th, but all the tracking information (which ends with "in transit to country") is dated 12 December, and the tracking info for my Cyber Monday purchase hasn't been updated since 30 November (when it was "en route to regional processing facility"). If it doesn't show up by about the middle of next week I think I'll have to contact them and ask what the status is. International tracking information isn't necessarily worth much once the shipment has left the country of origin (I've received more than one parcel which, if one believed the tracking, never actually entered my country!), but for the info to fizzle out before it's even made it past the first stage is definitely unusual.

[eadwine]

Owh.. strange, because for me that tracking always went just peachy and true to reality.. I wonder what gives this time. Thanks for the headsup :)

[lapushka]

Flexi that is being exchanged, the North Star, I just got a partial return in my paypal for shipping the thing to Germany, and I have a new tracking number now for the replacement Flexi.

Wait and see how this is going to go!

I don't know if I got the shipping fee returned because of the note on the return form (told them in no uncertain terms that I was NOT happy with having to pay return shipping for something that is THEIR fault), or because my consultant called them.

Either way, things are rolling again.

That's good news, at least. Bummer that it's only a partial return, though... Seems like their customer service leaves a lot to be desired lately.

[eadwine]

You misunderstand. The partial return is to cover all shipping fees that I paid to get the thing to Germany.

[lapushka]

You misunderstand. The partial return is to cover all shipping fees that I paid to get the thing to Germany.

Oh, oops, sorry, my bad! :o I thought partial return of shipping fees. :)

[eadwine]

Nope.. that would have been adding insult to injury in my eyes ;)

[Theobroma]

You misunderstand. The partial return is to cover all shipping fees that I paid to get the thing to Germany.

So they did insist on your sending it back? In my case they said that just this once I didn't need to (though not before I'd made a big fuss about the shipping costs). Perhaps because the flaws in the clip were clearly visible in the photos -- it doesn't really make much sense to incur shipping charges for a clip that they'll probably end up throwing away at their end, after all.

I hope they rethink their current returns policy. I've bought a fair bit of stuff online lately from a number of European mail order places I'd never used before, and in every single case returns were totally straightforward, involved minimal paperwork, and cost me exactly nothing. The contrast with LR couldn't have been greater -- which has done nothing to improve my confidence in LR with a view to making future purchases there. :(

[eadwine]

I didn't press the issue, I simply sent it back like they requested, with my note on the return sheet of course.

But yeah.. it doesn't make sense to me either.

Needless to say this new one will get inspected very closely.

[Theobroma]

I didn't press the issue either -- I'd have been happy to send it back, just not to pay for the shipping -- but I did point out that bulking up the parcel with printouts of all the email correspondence would drive up the shipping rate. It's possible that they'd been getting enough complaints about the procedure by then that they were tired of insisting. :)

[eadwine]

All the paperwork they required wasn't on my form at all. Only to include a copy of the order receipt.

[Mammasaurusrex]

Does anyone know if there are any sales coming up? Im looking to place can order Wednesday but I may wait.

[jennareid]

There'll be a sale after Xmas apparently

[Mammasaurusrex]

Ah, poo. I can't wait that long! The hair clip I want only has large left and Im so afraid they are going to sell out of them.

[mizukitty]

Wow, this is the first time I've heard of these things and they're soooo beautiful. Are they easy to work with? I can use forks and spin pins but have trouble with single sticks..

[Theobroma]

All is well -- my clips finally arrived today.

The tracking information is still stalled out on "Enroute to regional processing facility" and hasn't been updated since 30 November, but it seems the parcel has been quietly chugging its way across the Pond regardless. What a relief!

Also, my replacement North Star came in the same post and this time it's perfect. :)

[eadwine]

Ahh good! Glad to hear it :)

Mine is at Santa Fe Springs, US, so.. just LA still and then it is off to here :)

[Theobroma]

I received this reply from Flexi after I wrote to them to say the package had arrived but the tracking info still hadn't been updated:


During the busy season we have found Postal Service is not scanning the packages, however they are being delivered. I am glad to hear your package arrived.

Apparently they are still scanning some of the packages, though, since the tracking info for my Cyber Monday order is complete until the point where it entered my country (on 16 Dec; I received the shipping notice on 6 Dec, but it arrived on the same day as the replacement North Star that was posted a week earlier). After that it seems my local postal service decided it couldn't be bothered to update, but that's nothing new! The customs people seem to be a signally lazy and lackadaisical bunch (either that, or they're scandalously understaffed) because it typically takes several days for parcels to clear customs even when there's no Christmas rush to explain the delays.

[mizukitty]

http://i.imgur.com/WKKe9CL.jpg

My first ever! It looks a little ridiculous because I have no idea how to use it. But I liked the simple design. And massive kudos, this got here in 2 days, with the cheap shipping. During the holidays!!! These people are doing everything right :D

[lapushka]

http://i.imgur.com/WKKe9CL.jpg

My first ever! It looks a little ridiculous because I have no idea how to use it. But I liked the simple design. And massive kudos, this got here in 2 days, with the cheap shipping. During the holidays!!! These people are doing everything right :D

That is such a cute design - hadn't seen that one yet. Gorgeous updo! :D

[mizukitty]

That is such a cute design - hadn't seen that one yet. Gorgeous updo! :D

Hey thanks! I can't wait until I can do lwb and cinnabuns!

[eadwine]

Sale at LR, I got me the January flexi, angel wings :)

[Winter Fox]

Me too eadwine! I got it in XXS. :)

[eadwine]

The new north star arrived, and all looks to be in order!

[MidnightMoon]

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25679&d=1483049547

Here's a photo of a style I've been trying lately. I wish I had taken photos as soon as I had it done, but I didn't. This is after I came back home.
Anyways, it's fairly easy, like a cinnamon bun, but the hair your twist afters the first loop is braided and pinned down.
This flexi is probably one of my favourites, and I believe it has been discontinued for a while now. I just love the orange, how it looks on my hair. It's also my only xl so its the most comfortable to wear in these styles. I think from now on I will stick yo buying xl and megas only, because as much as I like the look of the smaller ones I just cant figure out how to use them with updos... I could learn new buns too, but still, larger sizes are the most practical for me :D
I think this flexi style is called Simple Band Antique Brass.

[MidnightMoon]

And yes.. I have a very funny and bothersome hair whorl :lol:

[lapushka]

Very pretty, MM!

[MidnightMoon]

Thank you! :o

I so wish I could buy a couple flexis right now
I am experimenting with new updos and they looks so pretty *-*

[Brittpit]

These are very pretty! I'm really tempted to buy one but I'm in doubt about the size. I have fine slippery hair, ponytail is 3 inches, going towards APL. Should I get an XS or an S? I'd like to do some updo's (if that's possible at this length) and a ponytail.

[lapushka]

These are very pretty! I'm really tempted to buy one but I'm in doubt about the size. I have fine slippery hair, ponytail is 3 inches, going towards APL. Should I get an XS or an S? I'd like to do some updo's (if that's possible at this length) and a ponytail.

How long is your hair, and is it for half-ups or full updos? I think an S might be too small if your hair is past BSL. I'd go with a M in that case, but that's only my opinion. I'd wait until others weigh in first. ;) Oops sorry, hadn't read your post clearly. You said your length clearly! Hmm. I'd get a S, maybe a M.

[eadwine]

I'd go for the M as well.. S is quite small, and it looks like we have roughly the same hair. Once you can do a small bun you're in the M range. XS is really small, but can be used for a ponytail for instance.

[Brittpit]

Thank you! Now the hardest part, choosing the nicest one (or maybe two!!)

[hanne jensen]

Have the sizes changed in the last few years? I bought my last Flexi about 3 years ago and want some new ones. My current XL can just hold a cinnabun. Should I order XL or XXL?

[eadwine]

For as far as I know sizes .. at least the medium.. has not changed. I have been wearing that for ten years I believe.

[eadwine]

Angel Wings is here :D

http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o518/eadwine/Haarspul/angelwings.jpg

[lapushka]

Angel Wings is here :D

http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o518/eadwine/Haarspul/angelwings.jpg

That's pretty big for my taste, but it looks *pretty* in your hair (don't matter what I think). :D ;)

[eadwine]

It is rather big indeed.. but not massive. I really like it!

It is HEAVY! Not in my hair, but when I held it in my hands when I got it it was the first thing I noticed.

[lazuliblue]

Eadwine that flexi looks absolutely amazing in your hair.

[eadwine]

Thanks! :)

[eadwine]

Sale on select items at Lillarose :) Got the holly at 50% off




Just got this in :D
http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o518/eadwine/Haarspul/flexi_1.jpg

[Theobroma]

Eadwine, Dogwood is one of my favourite Flexis ever!

Just got the email about the sale and was toying with the idea of getting a pair of mini Emerald Joys. Unfortunately, all the sizes except large and mega are already sold out. :(

The new heart style is pretty, but not really my thing, so I'll be giving it a miss.

[eadwine]

Nope.. it is not my thing either really.. I don't know what it is exactly that I don't like.. but nope. Glad this holly one was 50% off though :D

[KittyBird]

I got Charlotte (50% off) and the new FOTM (10% off), both in XS. I really like the heart :D

[Calypso]

Hey everyone! I really fancy going on a flexi binge, but I'm not sure what the best size for me would be. I have a couple of small/medium ones for half ups but want some for buns, would you guys recommend the XL or the mega? My ponytail circumference is about 6 inches and my length is just scraping tailbone. I'm thinking the XL, but thought I should check with you guys first. :)

[KittyBird]

It depends on the bun, but you can use both XL and mega with your thickness and length. When I had long hair I used XL for centerheld buns like lazy wrap and nautilus bun, and mega for disc bun and figure 8 bun, and the occasional cinnamon bun.

[lapushka]

I like the holly one! It's pretty. :D Tastes vary, right? ;)

[eadwine]

Yup! I hope it gets here quickly, it's already been shipped (the day that I ordered it!).

[Calypso]

Thanks KittyBird! I might order a couple of each, then. :)

[eadwine]

The holly is here :)

http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o518/eadwine/Haarspul/hollyS.jpg

[lapushka]

Oh eadwine, it's *cute*!

[eadwine]

*giggle* Thanks Lapushka :)

[Theobroma]

I second what Lapushka said, eadwine. I like it so much better in your hair than in the shop photos!

[eadwine]

Aww *blush* Thanks :)

[Winter Fox]

I just received my winter wonder flexi in mini from Zesty - I love it!

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/578/32388544740_9239f4bc0c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Rm4KXb)

[eadwine]

That's so cute! :)

[summergame]

Winter Fox, it looks so beautiful in your hair!

[MsPharaohMoan]

Angel Wings is here :D

http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o518/eadwine/Haarspul/angelwings.jpg

Gasp! I can't find it on the website! Where did you get it?

[Winter Fox]

Thank you eadwine and summergame!

MsPharaohMoan: The Angel Wings was the january "flexi of the month" and was only available during that month.
There is a chance that it comes back at black friday sale though, or you could ask a lilla rose consultant if there are still some flexis left. :)

[Zesty]

I just received my winter wonder flexi in mini from Zesty - I love it!

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/578/32388544740_9239f4bc0c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Rm4KXb)

Woo! It suits you really well. :)

[MsPharaohMoan]

Bigger gasp! They have a medium leftover! At first I was sad cause I couldn't make a medium work in any buns before... but then I realized I have spin pins galore after the recent swap :happydance:

[eadwine]

You have pretty much the same hair info as I have, I am ALMOST at tailbone now and can make a medium work without anything extra.

It should work out for you as well :) Good that you got one!

[MsPharaohMoan]

You have pretty much the same hair info as I have, I am ALMOST at tailbone now and can make a medium work without anything extra.

It should work out for you as well :) Good that you got one!

Hey almost twin! I'm glad to hear you're making them work easy. Do you find difficulty getting enough scalp hair? Now that I think about it, the flexi I tested might have been a small...

[eadwine]

Nope not at all difficult to get scalp hair. I can't get a small to work here either :lol: way too small

[Winter Fox]

Thanks Zesty :D

And congrats MsPharaohMoan!

[wo]

Well, after wayyyy too much consideration, I finally put in an order for three flexi 8s and it qualified for a gift of my choice of a free stick. These will be my first hair toys. I've only used Bobby pins and claw clips.
The sizing and colors were so overwhelming! And some of them have you pick a stick or no stick, which then confused me about whether they come with sticks when not specified. Then I decided they must of course, and some just for some reason have the option of 'no stick'... No idea why. Anyway I can't wait to get them and try them out. I know the flexi 8s will be useful. The stick... I'm not too sure about. Never used one, and I'm not a big fan of full updos on me but it was free. I will post pics when I get them and try them out. :)

[JadedByEntropy]

Well, after wayyyy too much consideration, I finally put in an order for three flexi 8s and it qualified for a gift of my choice of a free stick. These will be my first hair toys. I've only used Bobby pins and claw clips.
The sizing and colors were so overwhelming! And some of them have you pick a stick or no stick, which then confused me about whether they come with sticks when not specified. Then I decided they must of course, and some just for some reason have the option of 'no stick'... No idea why. Anyway I can't wait to get them and try them out. I know the flexi 8s will be useful. The stick... I'm not too sure about. Never used one, and I'm not a big fan of full updos on me but it was free. I will post pics when I get them and try them out. :)

I would love to see which ones you picked out :D

[wo]

Here's a pic of what I ordered! I just pull various amounts of hair back to keep it off my face, sometimes just a tiny strand, or a third of it, and once in awhile I do what they call on the site a tails up. So I wanted a variety of sizes. https://i.imgur.com/NvtdC7w.jpg

[Theobroma]

My Poinsettias finally arrived. I bought them during that sale when they were going at half price -- one XL and a pair of Minis. Also got a pair of Emerald Joy bobbies at the same time. Very pleased with my haul -- the Poinsettia centre actually looks nicer in person than on the shop photos, and there are no quality issues this time. :)

[eadwine]

Glad to hear things went ok this time!!

[lucid]

Just ordered a bunch of flexi clips, I really hope they will stay in my slippery hair.

The shop was a pain to order from though, I don't think I have ever visited a slower site.. My patience got tested for sure :p One of my orders failed as well (I split my order in 3 to avoid customs), but money was still pulled from my paypal... I have contacted them on FB, so hopefully they'll get returned quickly.


XXS:
https://cloud.lillarose.biz/FX/A/T/XXS/FX-2603-XXS_A_T.jpg

https://cloud.lillarose.biz/FX/A/T/XXS/FX-2632-XXS_A_T.jpg

https://cloud.lillarose.biz/FX/A/T/XXS/FX-2674-XXS_A_T.jpg

https://cloud.lillarose.biz/FX/AT/XXS/FX-2387-XXS_AT.jpg


XS:
https://cloud.lillarose.biz/FX/A/T/XS/FX-2233-XS_A_T.jpg

https://cloud.lillarose.biz/FX/AT/XS/FX-0962-XS_AT.jpg

[JadedByEntropy]

Wo
That rose i didnt know existed and its so cute. you chose a nice collection. I hope the sizes all work perfectly

[MsPharaohMoan]

Just ordered a bunch of flexi clips, I really hope they will stay in my slippery hair.

The shop was a pain to order from though, I don't think I have ever visited a slower site.. My patience got tested for sure :p One of my orders failed as well (I split my order in 3 to avoid customs), but money was still pulled from my paypal... I have contacted them on FB, so hopefully they'll get returned quickly.

Oh no! I went to the 'contact us' page and sent an email, it was replied to within a day.

[wo]

Hurray!!! I'm on my first 'hair high' right now. My order just came, and to my surprise, everything, even the stick, is so easy to use for a hair toy first timer! I didn't even know if I had enough hair to use a stick, but it works great. Actually my hair doesn't come undone even when I take the stick out lol. This is 4th day hair that hasn't been refreshed so not my usual texture, but I had to take pics! Sorry for quality, my front facing camera is abominable.
https://i.imgur.com/g3itug3.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/iKac1sL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rzUg1tp.jpg

[lucid]

They look really great on you!

[MsPharaohMoan]

Looks lovely! Love the variation. What's that bun on the right? I know I've seen it before...

[wo]

Looks lovely! Love the variation. What's that bun on the right? I know I've seen it before...

Thank you! Well this was my first bun ever (other than 'messy buns') so I attempted a lazy wrap bun by watching a quick YouTube video. That's funny if it turned into something else!

[MsPharaohMoan]

Thank you! Well this was my first bun ever (other than 'messy buns') so I attempted a lazy wrap bun by watching a quick YouTube video. That's funny if it turned into something else!

Well it looks quite pretty actually lol Looks a bit like a modified pha bun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGfOU1OPR1I kinda

[wo]

I think the way I put the stick in changed it from looking like a lazy wrap. I need to learn what angle sticks go in and how to get enough leverage without a painful amount of tension.

[Kake]

Hurray!!! I'm on my first 'hair high' right now. My order just came, and to my surprise, everything, even the stick, is so easy to use for a hair toy first timer! I didn't even know if I had enough hair to use a stick, but it works great. Actually my hair doesn't come undone even when I take the stick out lol. This is 4th day hair that hasn't been refreshed so not my usual texture, but I had to take pics! Sorry for quality, my front facing camera is abominable.
http://i.imgur.com/g3itug3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iKac1sL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rzUg1tp.jpg

Such pretty hair! The flexis look great in all the styles, but the half-up and the pulled back strand are just beautiful. I have major hair envy right now.

[eadwine]

Looking great right there!!

[Henrietta]

Hurray!!! I'm on my first 'hair high' right now. My order just came, and to my surprise, everything, even the stick, is so easy to use for a hair toy first timer! I didn't even know if I had enough hair to use a stick, but it works great. Actually my hair doesn't come undone even when I take the stick out lol. This is 4th day hair that hasn't been refreshed so not my usual texture, but I had to take pics! Sorry for quality, my front facing camera is abominable.


And this is your first bun with a stick?! You can be really proud of yourself :) It looks perfect, it holds, success! :)

My Cherish in XL came today! Just in time for our Valentines date (which is tomorrow, because yesterday and today we had no time.) I was worried already and even went looking for it to the post office. It was in the mailbox, must have come today when I was away... at the post office ;) The centrepiece is huge, I love it! I didn't expect it to be so big, it doesn't look so on Lilla Rose's pics. It's too dark for pics today, but I will post them soon :)

[wo]

Thank you for the kind words! Yes, my first bun ever with a stick worked!! I was shocked. I never had anything past chin length hair before so I thought everything like this would be so complicated.

[JadedByEntropy]

wo
Congrats, those look well sized for your new world of updos

[Henrietta]

Here's my Cherish in XL. Love it! :)

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26184&d=1487350733

[Theobroma]

That's beautiful, Henrietta!

I like that clip much better in your action shot than in the shop photos.

[Henrietta]

That's beautiful, Henrietta!

I like that clip much better in your action shot than in the shop photos.

Me too!
When I saw it in the shop, my first thought was "no" because... it's a heart, where would I wear it? I though it's not universal and too childish. Secondly, I already have the Crimson Joy clip which is also a big red centre. But the more I looked the more I liked it, and after some time I decided to buy it. I thought I could always wear it for dates with DH :) Or just on any given day, oh come on, why not. Not everything must be classic and universal. So I bought it and I do not regret :) It's lovely. Seeing it makes me happy, so I keep it on my desk when it's not in my hair ;)

[eadwine]

Just a heads up.. I was disappointed but maybe some of you might want to take advantage: sale at the mo :)

[Theobroma]

I received the sale notice, Eadwine, but almost the only discounted clips seemed to be the vinyl tubing ones, and I'm just not warming to them. I didn't like the look or feel of the tubing on the one and only such clip I tried, and they also seem to run very small, which I'm not keen on either. So I'll sit this one out.

Which doesn't mean I'm missing out on new pretties! I just got lucky over at Lady Idun... :D

[eadwine]

Ahhh congrats! :D

[KellieKay]

I wear a medium for a french twist. What size do y'all think I would need for a half up? thanks

[two_wheels]

I would go with S, the minis are tiny

[Namaste_Berlin]

I do have very thin hair. I only nee Minis for half ups. Otherwise it would look too thin.

[MsPharaohMoan]

Here's my Cherish in XL. Love it! :)

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26184&d=1487350733

It's so cute! Red looks great on you.

Here it is :) Obsessing over those wings https://postimg.org/image/qsjc7whk5/

[Crystawni]

(cross-posting)

For anyone into the leather flexis like the ones I bought last year (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=17757&p=3338239&viewfull=1#post3338239), petite spikes from Acrylic Candy Shop (https://www.etsy.com/shop/AcrylicCandyShop?ref=l2-shopheader-name) make for good flexi pins.

Coal Mine (https://www.etsy.com/listing/496702134/candy-spike-petite-coal-mine-acrylic?ref=shop_home_active_13) and Milky Way (https://www.etsy.com/listing/505492289/candy-spike-petite-milky-way-acrylic?ref=shop_home_active_12):

https://i.imgur.com/uMI9soq.jpg

Flexinated:

https://i.imgur.com/i1lKZ14.jpg

[Henrietta]

Thank you, MsPharaohMoan! :)
Crystawni, I like your sets better than the ones with Liila Rose hair sticks :)

[Theobroma]

Crystawni, I second Henrietta -- they're very pretty and match the 8's so well! Those particular sticks would be too blunt for me, I think, but I'm not fond of the LR sticks either. For one thing, they seem way too long in proportion to the size of the Flexis.

I have two braided 8's in XL and I wear them with wooden sticks that I turned myself. They're pretty much exactly 5" long and I wouldn't want them any longer than that.

[eadwine]

You can buy the LR sticks separately. No need to get a set. Look at the hair sticks section.

I have mine from LR and bought a normal size. I don't need to receive radio signals from Mars either :)

[Crystawni]

Thank you, guys. :blossom: And yes, you can buy the LR sticks separately (so you can mix and match colours and lengths), or in my case, not at all as I already had some I could use. The LR options with the leather 8s were:


No Stick: Use another Lilla Rose Stick or your own
Extra Small 8: Short Stick 90mm / 3.5"
Small 8: Medium Stick 115mm / 4.5"
Medium - XL 8: Long Stick 155mm / 6"

with colour matchups being espresso (black 8 ), maple (beige 8 ) and walnut (dark camel 8 ). Separately, they can be found under "Sticks" here (https://shop.lillarose.biz/MemberToolsDotNet/ShoppingCartv3/MainCart.aspx?PriorNav=ProductDetail_113&PartyID=0&PartyGuestID=0&ReferringDealerID=829991), as eadwine mentioned. The only one I'd use a 6" stick with is my XL leather 8. I have a larger head, so that length doesn't poke out on me, but even that is a bit much if the 8 wraps around a bobbly bun a bit (leaving more stick exposed). I use the small leather 8s pictured with the acrylics for ponytails, so luckily the stick bluntness isn't an issue. I love the way the solid depth of acrylic colour plays well with the saturation of colour in the leather, too. And in my case, acrylic works better in humid and inclement weather compared to wood, and has a nice slide/grip action.


Henrietta, I really do love the Cherish (that sentence sounds wrong already!!!), and your action pic is not helping my resolve to wait until the Black Friday sale near the end of the year. It's so lush looking. :crush:

[Henrietta]

eadwine I laughed out loud when I read the part about Mars signals :D
Crystawni, what should I tell you? :) That it's a good idea to be reasonable, on Black Friday everything will be so much cheaper? Or that it's so many months, so much time to wait... too much time to wait?

[eadwine]

*giggle* Glad that got a laugh out of you hehe

[wispe]

A question - If I use a M for a ponytail & center-held buns (pony is loose, I suspect a small would fit better, yet I barely manage to clip an M in most center-held buns) should I go for a L or XL for my buns (non-centerhelds particularly)? I have about a 2.75"-3" pony circumference and am at layered waist, but I do plan to grow longer and it'd be nice to choose a size I can wear now and that I won't totally outgrow anytime soon. Ideally I'd still be able to wear it at CL/FTL if I get there. I'm going to go back through the thread and look for answers/other experiences, but if anyone has specific advice for choosing the proper size I'd love to hear it.

Anyway speaking of ponytails, I ended up in one today when I didn't have time to comb out my bun waves before leaving the house. It surprisingly stayed pretty much put all throughout my errands, which was nice. This is a M bow in the rose gold color.
http://i.imgur.com/wTYhBda.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/hmHEAuO.jpg?1