Show me your "historical" hairstyles/tutorials! [Archive] - The Long Hair Community Discussion Boards

Madora

February 27th, 2012, 01:16 PM

Gibson tuck video was nice. Didn't really like the last youtube video you linked in. It's kind of a mess. The girl is hair care challenged, it appears to me, too.

But what do I know?!! LOL

Thank you for sharing, nevertheless.

One thing I notice in boatloads of these videos is that all these women are videoing in their bathroom or bedroom with really crappy backgrounds. I liked Gibson Girl because it was a clean background so it revealed what she was doing, step by step, more clearly.

I also think that videos should focus a bit more on hand placement. I find that updo work is about where you place the hands, and when. Not quite so much what the hair is doing when. That's secondary, it seems to me. Of note, where the thumbs go. Such as a braid, the thumb holds the braid made so far in place and manages the firmness or tightness of the weave.

I really want to make youtube videos because a lot of these updos cannot be done or done so easily at my hair length. Not a lot of info for updos on very long hair, it seems to me.

heidi w.

I hope you do, Heidi! I've love to see what you can do with your wonderful tresses!

What bugs the socks off me is that the lighting is poor on many videos..and the sound is muffled.

I'd really love it if someone could actually ZOOM IN on the area in question so the technique could be seen more plainly. Most of the dark haired videos are lost on me because I can't make out details.

Lighter hair color is so much easier to watch, as far as hair technique is concerned.

door72067

February 27th, 2012, 01:57 PM

this video channel has helped me a lot

http://www.youtube.com/user/isaetno

there isn't any audio instructions, but the hand placements are quite clear

bettylibertine

February 27th, 2012, 03:01 PM

I love this blog: http://rapunzelsresource.wordpress.com/
she has great tutorials for period hairstyles!!:blossom:

Oh yes I love that website. The styles are just fantastic! And I really love her hair curling tutorials :D

I really want to make youtube videos because a lot of these updos cannot be done or done so easily at my hair length. Not a lot of info for updos on very long hair, it seems to me.

Oh please do!

this video channel has helped me a lot
http://www.youtube.com/user/isaetno
there isn't any audio instructions, but the hand placements are quite clear

Thank you! I haven't seen this one before :flower:

door72067

February 27th, 2012, 06:15 PM

you're welcome :)

bettylibertine

February 27th, 2012, 07:10 PM

For anyone who's interested - I found another good one here (http://ups-downs-hair.blogspot.co.nz/search?updated-max=2011-03-05T10:34:00-08:00&max-results=4)

Tisiloves

March 3rd, 2012, 03:37 AM

Some hardcore historicals here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/jntvstp/featured

It's a little academic, but many of them are easily adapted to modern methods.

GaJunebug

March 3rd, 2012, 04:17 AM

Also, check out the tutorials on American Dutchess. She has great how tos and also shows how to with wigs if you don't want to backcomb and tease your own hair into a hedgehog style.

http://americanduchess.blogspot.com/

bettylibertine

March 3rd, 2012, 07:51 PM

Ooo yes I really enjoy her tutorials Tisiloves! Thanks for the suggestion :D
I've never come across this one before GaJunebug. Looks like there's some great stuff on there (and the costumes are so pretty!). Thank you!

Honestwitness

March 3rd, 2012, 09:25 PM

Yes, Tisiloves, thanks so much for sharing this link to Janet Stephens' videos on hairstyle archaeology. I learned something from the one on Julia (something) 2 that I did not know before. She mentioned her theory that Julia must have suffered from 'distal-side androgenic alopecia.' She showed how the before and after braids are so different in thickness, especially toward the ends.

I googled this condition and from what I found, I believe I have it too. I have entire areas of my head where the terminal length is only about six inches, mostly on my lower areas, not on the canopy so much. If you look at my "Hair Weaknesses" album, you can see what I mean.

Anyway, it was good to see that women have dealt with this in creative ways, even in antiquity.

AnqeIicDemise

March 4th, 2012, 12:26 AM

Ooh.. I need to look it up but there is a youtube channel of a forensic hair dresser. Its amazingly beautiful! You'd need a partner to do most of them as she does the styles by replicating the methods used originally.

AnqeIicDemise

March 4th, 2012, 12:27 AM

Some hardcore historicals here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/jntvstp/featured

It's a little academic, but many of them are easily adapted to modern methods.

AHA! Here it is, she beat me to it. I love her channel so much.

Tisiloves

March 4th, 2012, 02:12 AM

AHA! Here it is, she beat me to it. I love her channel so much.

It makes my inner class civ geek so very happy :redgrin:

AnqeIicDemise

March 4th, 2012, 02:30 AM

It makes my inner class civ geek so very happy :redgrin:

It makes my history buff soul superbly happy too. I look forward to each new vid and run around like a kid on tons of sugar whenever a new one pops up. xD

Arya

March 4th, 2012, 03:33 AM

It makes my inner class civ geek so very happy :redgrin:
How do you get your hair to not fall through the bottom of the gibson tuck? mine goes "AHA!" and barfs itself out of the bottom of the tuck anywhere between 30 seconds and 20 minutes later.

Tisiloves

March 4th, 2012, 04:17 AM

How do you get your hair to not fall through the bottom of the gibson tuck? mine goes "AHA!" and barfs itself out of the bottom of the tuck anywhere between 30 seconds and 20 minutes later.

Sort of ball your hair up first and don't try to push it in too deep.

bettylibertine

March 4th, 2012, 01:59 PM

It makes my history buff soul superbly happy too. I look forward to each new vid and run around like a kid on tons of sugar whenever a new one pops up. xD

:laugh:

I can't remember which one it was, but I wore a loose interpretation of one of the hairstyles to my Roman History class. I kept teehee-ing in my head. No one else knew, but I did! :D

bettylibertine

March 5th, 2012, 10:47 PM

Okay so I've tried two versions of the Gibson tuck (it really doesn't work as well as it used to when my hair was shorter.
Habioku's version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5JZOVnSjjE)
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=7936&pictureid=127977

And DieSushiB*tch's version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSARin9SJrY)
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=7936&pictureid=127976

Quite frustrating really - I can't get them quite right.
I used to do a version where I bunned my hair with an elastic first and then tucked - but if I try it now the elastic gets all up in my grills :eek:

Thought I'd share anywho.

Arakazi

March 6th, 2012, 09:34 PM

Those gibson tucks look great bettylibertine! I think I prefer the Habioku version :D Those are my two cent :P

bettylibertine

March 6th, 2012, 10:13 PM

Thanks Arakazi :D

AnqeIicDemise

March 6th, 2012, 11:02 PM

:laugh:

I can't remember which one it was, but I wore a loose interpretation of one of the hairstyles to my Roman History class. I kept teehee-ing in my head. No one else knew, but I did! :D

I've been too lazy to try yet. T-hee. But I so will. I can't wear them to work, my head set would destroy my hair. I always have this long whispy strand hanging out of my head, it drives me nuts. I used to have a set that just hung on my ear but it crapped out. -.-

bettylibertine

March 7th, 2012, 02:24 AM

I've been too lazy to try yet. T-hee. But I so will. I can't wear them to work, my head set would destroy my hair. I always have this long whispy strand hanging out of my head, it drives me nuts. I used to have a set that just hung on my ear but it crapped out. -.-

Curse you headset! *shakes fist* :p
Definitely do give them a go! It just amazes me that a person/people were wearing the same hairstyle so long ago :D The ones I've tried are also surprisingly comfortable. Perhaps because they're sewed in?

Tisiloves

March 7th, 2012, 03:33 AM

Curse you headset! *shakes fist*

Definitely do give them a go! It just amazes me that a person/people were wearing the same hairstyle so long ago The ones I've tried are also surprisingly comfortable. Perhaps because they're sewed in?

Yeah, a lot of people who do hair taping say it's really comfy, probably because there are no hard pins and the weight's pretty evenly distributed.

Arya

March 7th, 2012, 04:25 AM

Sort of ball your hair up first and don't try to push it in too deep.
No dice, it's still falling out :(

Okay so I've tried two versions of the Gibson tuck (it really doesn't work as well as it used to when my hair was shorter.

Quite frustrating really - I can't get them quite right.
I used to do a version where I bunned my hair with an elastic first and then tucked - but if I try it now the elastic gets all up in my grills :eek:

Thought I'd share anywho.

Same here, but yours look way better than mine! One pukes itsemf out of the bottom and the other starts flapping after 20 minutes.

Tisiloves

March 7th, 2012, 04:56 AM

Reinforce the bottom of your tuck with pins/barrettes or make an accent braid and swoop it around your problem area, or just try the modified version, the rest of your hair's meant to fall through.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u4neDtqsDk

bettylibertine

March 7th, 2012, 05:28 PM

No dice, it's still falling out :(

Same here, but yours look way better than mine! One pukes itsemf out of the bottom and the other starts flapping after 20 minutes.

Bummer! I tried another variation later on. I used a technique borrowed from this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IGX7wk8vdk) video. I did Habioku's version but pinched the sides together at the end and fastened them with a barette. For one reason or another this seemed to help :)

What a great idea Tisiloves!

ETA: Found this (http://zipzipinkspot.blogspot.co.nz/2009/08/hairstyle-tutorial-1909-coiffure.html)! It's a 1909 Edwardian coiffure. I tried it - though I had no hair rats. Excuse the messy roll :) (and possibly enormous photo)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/425615_3031393857227_1034306068_2976722_745165790_ n.jpg

Tisiloves

March 7th, 2012, 11:55 PM

What a great idea Tisiloves!

Thanks, but it's just what my Gran used to do, her hair was even thicker and heavier than mine.

That Edwardian style looks really cool!

Kira94

March 8th, 2012, 12:21 AM

Commenting so I can remember this post. I love historical hairstyles! :D

bettylibertine

March 8th, 2012, 01:05 AM

Thanks, but it's just what my Gran used to do, her hair was even thicker and heavier than mine.

That Edwardian style looks really cool!

Ah, Grans are good like that :p

Thank you! I want to work a little more on it. Trying to figure out ways to give my roll at the back more support. Hmm..
Suggestions anyone?

bettylibertine

March 8th, 2012, 01:06 AM

Commenting so I can remember this post. I love historical hairstyles! :D

Yay for historical hairstyles :D
If you know of any do share!

DaniVerde

March 8th, 2012, 01:10 AM

I'm also commenting so that way I get reminded that this thread is here...I love the styles here and ones day hope to try them (when my hair is actually long!) :)

Panth

March 8th, 2012, 11:05 AM

bettylibertine

March 8th, 2012, 12:08 PM

Panth that is so cool! Please do share your version, I'd love to see it :D

Alvrodul

March 8th, 2012, 01:00 PM

Some hardcore historicals here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/jntvstp/featured

It's a little academic, but many of them are easily adapted to modern methods.

I love that channel, and this hairstyle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QigGoRY_Nic) is actually usable for everyday wear! Here is my version (from last summer):
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/Alvrodul/Updos%202011/Cleopatrado.jpg

Bummer! I tried another variation later on. I used a technique borrowed from this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IGX7wk8vdk) video. I did Habioku's version but pinched the sides together at the end and fastened them with a barette. For one reason or another this seemed to help :)

What a great idea Tisiloves!

ETA: Found this (http://zipzipinkspot.blogspot.co.nz/2009/08/hairstyle-tutorial-1909-coiffure.html)! It's a 1909 Edwardian coiffure. I tried it - though I had no hair rats. Excuse the messy roll :) (and possibly enormous photo)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/425615_3031393857227_1034306068_2976722_745165790_ n.jpg
Love that style - really must try it! It looks as if it will be lovely with my vintage hair toys.

Speaking of which - here are a some pics of me waaring some of said antiques in my hair - the combs 100+ years old. :D
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/Alvrodul/Updos%202011/Blackvintagecomb.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/Alvrodul/Updos%202011/Vintagecombwithsparklies.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/Alvrodul/Updos%202011/Sockbunwitheaglecomb.jpg

Madora

March 8th, 2012, 01:09 PM

Alvrodul, that "Cleopatra" inspired braided hairstyle looks stunning on you! What gorgeous braiding!

Alvrodul

March 8th, 2012, 01:15 PM

Thank you, Madora! It was quite practical and comfy too. :D

bettylibertine

March 8th, 2012, 01:27 PM

Madora

March 8th, 2012, 01:33 PM

Alvrodul those combs are just beautiful! As for the hairstyles - wow! Thank you so much for sharing. I particularly like the second braided one (though I am most definitely going to give the Cleopatra one a try!). Could you tell me how you did it? :D

bettylibertine, if you look just above Alvrodul's braided picture, she provided a link to the Cleopatra hairstyle on You Tube.

Alvrodul

March 8th, 2012, 01:39 PM

Alvrodul those combs are just beautiful! As for the hairstyles - wow! Thank you so much for sharing. I particularly like the second braided one (though I am most definitely going to give the Cleopatra one a try!). Could you tell me how you did it? :D
The hairstyle with the black comb is a variation on this style (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N7_7_NlnF0). I just made more braids than Torrin did, and used one t wrap around the base of the pony. and there are two little braid coming down from the front part of my hair that join the pony in the back. :)
It's a fun style, and definitely open to experimentation. Rope braids look particularly good in this style.
The head-eating bun is a sock bun.

bettylibertine

March 8th, 2012, 04:31 PM

bettylibertine, if you look just above Alvrodul's braided picture, she provided a link to the Cleopatra hairstyle on You Tube.

I was referring to the second braided style :) (though re-reading my post I can see how it seemed that I was referring to the Cleopatra style)

The hairstyle with the black comb is a variation on this style (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N7_7_NlnF0). I just made more braids than Torrin did, and used one t wrap around the base of the pony. and there are two little braid coming down from the front part of my hair that join the pony in the back. :)
It's a fun style, and definitely open to experimentation. Rope braids look particularly good in this style.
The head-eating bun is a sock bun.

Thank you! I thought it looked familiar :p Absolutely beautiful :flower:

jacqueline101

March 8th, 2012, 05:58 PM

I like the site hair archives its shorter hair in some of the styles they show a 1950 page boy my favorite hair style in a french twist.

bettylibertine

March 9th, 2012, 12:16 AM

Sounds cool Jacqueline!

Holy moly I just tried that Cleopatra style and I love it! :D
Must go take pictures...

ETA: Here we are!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/430719_3037089519615_541155931_n.jpg

Madora

March 9th, 2012, 08:29 AM

Alvrodul

March 9th, 2012, 09:38 AM

Panth

March 9th, 2012, 11:32 AM

One day I'll get around to showing my version of this 14th Century hairstyle (http://www.virtue.to/articles/images/134x_MarieDeFrance.jpg). It's pretty easy. My main problem is my hair is now too long for it and I have always had a bit too much taper for it.

Panth that is so cool! Please do share your version, I'd love to see it :D

Well, I'm not sure when, if ever, I'd get around to re-doing it and photographing it. It would be rather annoying for just doing randomly (it looks daft and the plaits block your vision and tickle your face a bit) so it'd have to come down straight away after. I don't know when I'd next have an event where I'd be posh enough for it, plus have time enough beforehand to do it!

However, here's some instructions:

1. Comb/detangle hair thoroughly.
2. If you haven't got one, do a parting dead-centre.
3. Continue that parting down to your nape and divide the hair in two, putting each side in front of the shoulder.
4. If you like, tie one side loosely out of the way with a hair band.
5. Gather the other half into a bunch that is up by your temple, about half way along your front hairline, between your ear and your parting.
(Note: this is very hard to do unless your hair is used to being manipulated in funny directions - e.g. crown braids - and will take a lot of work, preferably in front of a mirror, to get right. It also takes lots of faff to get all the hair lying flat against your scalp and smooth.)
6. Plait this held bunch with a regular 3-strand english plait. Do it quite tightly, particularly at the beginning.
7. Secure the plait temporarily with a hair band.
8. Repeat steps 5-7 on the other side, being very careful with a mirror to ensure both plaits start at symmetrical points on the head.

Now, there would be two variants - what I've done and what I think is more likely based on the images. Firstly, what I did:

9. Fold one plait in half, making sure the start of the plait is in front and the lower bit you are lifting up is behind (this is simply because this way around looks better if you have taper - you're seeing the widest part of the plait framing the face).
10. Adjust the fold until the tip of the folded plait (the base of the U you're making) is somewhere between chin-length and cheekbone-length.
11. Take silk thread (buttonhole thickness is good, preferably in the same colour as your hair) threaded on a blunt needle and stitch the plait into a stiff, folded stick-like shape. Keep stitching until you don't have to hold it in place any more.
12. Undo the hair band at the base of your plait and unravel the plait up as far as the folded/sewn part.
13. Take bobby pins and pin the tail of your plait up over your head, towards the area behind the ear on the opposite side of your head.
14. Repeat steps 9-12 on the other side, using the mirror to ensure your plaits are symmetrical.
15. Take a non-transparent veil and bung it over the top to hide your plait tails and any messiness made when gathering the hair initially. Use standard veil pins / glass-topped sewing pins to make the veil stay put (remembering that you can pin through the plaits with immunity). You may want to use a fillet (narrow strip of fabric wrapped around the head and pinned in place) as a base to pin your veil(s) to.
(You can also adjust the way the plaits hang by pinning the veil slightly differently - experiment!)

And how I think they're really done:

Do steps 9-12 as above.
13. Tuck the plait tail between the folded/sewn plait U and the face (magically having your plait tail finish in a beautiful blunt end exactly at the same point as the bottom of the U).
14. Do a bit more sewing to ensure the plait tail remains between the folded plait and the face.
15. Repeat on the other side.
16. Bung a decorated fillet on top (as in the bust). This is likely a woven silk band with metal decorations sewn or riveted on. It may also have precious/semi-precious stone on, either sewn on directly or as part of the metal fittings.

That is, however, broadly speaking. I'm pretty sure I've not got it completely right (some seem to have fabric between the plaits and the face, or even between the plaits and the tassel part; many appear to have a third plait involved somehow at the back). The main problem is that the images are often tiny and they rarely show the back. I really wish there was a back image available for that bust...

Panth

March 9th, 2012, 11:47 AM

After writing that great spiel out, turns out there's a reasonably similar sort of idea portrayed here (http://collettedevaloisblog.blogspot.com/2011/10/french-medieval-hair-part-one.html#more). And it has photos!

bettylibertine

March 9th, 2012, 03:30 PM

Thank you Madora!

Alvrodul it is SO comfy! I'm thinking it might be my new go to hairstyle :D

Fair enough Panth - thank you for taking the time to write instructions :flower:
Ooo - that website looks pretty good.. yay for photos :D

nakmom

March 10th, 2012, 02:50 PM

MagicAndMayhem

March 10th, 2012, 03:14 PM

nakmom, your hair looks so cute that way. :)

DaniVerde

March 10th, 2012, 03:17 PM

I'm so glad I saw this thread yesterday! I had never heard of the gibson tuck until this thread. I tried it today and I LOVE it! I think it looks really good with my new fringe! :D

Nakmom, your hair looks so lovely! Very thick and your bangs are very flattering :)

Madora

March 10th, 2012, 03:36 PM

I'm so glad I saw this thread yesterday! I had never heard of the gibson tuck until this thread. I tried it today and I LOVE it! I think it looks really good with my new fringe! :D

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/418039_3550296434842_1195530046_33611231_516198211 _n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/419913_3550272594246_1195530046_33611218_124392489 0_n.jpg

Very charming and elegant, nakmom!

bettylibertine

March 10th, 2012, 03:57 PM

It looks lovely nakmom!
And I love the fringe :D

Alvrodul

March 10th, 2012, 05:38 PM

nakmom

March 10th, 2012, 08:32 PM

Thank you all for the lovely complements! :blushing::flowers: I work as a waitress in a small town, so I know probably 95% of our customers, and everyone that came in tonight kept asking me why I was "all dressed up". The only thing different was my hair :laugh:

bettylibertine

March 11th, 2012, 12:43 AM

That's so funny nakmom!

I stumbled across FieryPha's new tutorial - the braid over braid updo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0td1t0w0USU&feature=plcp&context=C4c8d36fVDvjVQa1PpcFOEcmPJGqarkj0tVhWZzSTr Gd4vriREED0=). It's super cool!
Instead of English braiding my hair I French braided it, just because French suits my face better. I think next time I'll do it a bit higher for a more Victorian feel.

Here's how it turned out:

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=7936&pictureid=128472

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=7936&pictureid=128473

I really like that there's that bit of length there, but it's still mostly out of your face :)

bettylibertine

March 12th, 2012, 04:13 AM

Also found this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLFdKsr25rE&feature=plcp&context=C458690cVDvjVQa1PpcFPWOc0Veqke_bqHDEX1ofCy 5o4j13xWbqM%3D) Pride and Prejudice hairstyle. There seems to be a couple of them on this channel :)

Arakazi

March 14th, 2012, 12:46 AM

Wow that looks like such a lovely hairstyle! Defiantly give it a go! Hope this thread keeps poppin out the historicaly cute styles :D

bettylibertine

March 14th, 2012, 12:51 AM

Lol thanks Arakazi
For some reason I thought you might say that :p :D

Arakazi

March 14th, 2012, 01:15 AM

The ever lovely Torrin Page had this, which I thought would be a nice addition to the thread :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqbAdvL8kME

bettylibertine

March 14th, 2012, 11:36 PM

Thank you for your contribution Arakazi!

Dragon Faery

March 15th, 2012, 10:40 AM

Subscribing! :) Loving this thread, and hopefully I can find something to contribute someday. :)

bettylibertine

March 15th, 2012, 07:03 PM

Sounds good Dragon Faery!

Alvrodul

April 4th, 2012, 10:41 AM

I decided to try something different - usually my hair is up in a bun, but today, in honor of spring, I wanted to wear it down.
Well, sort of.
If I just wear my hair loose, I will end up with an endless amount of tangles. and also, I have wanted to try this style (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJj_O7pDgYw), ever since I saw the tutorial, even though my hair isn't long enough for it.
So instead of putting the braid over the crown, I crossed the front braids in the back, and fastened them with a pair of bobby pins, an fastened them together again "under" the ponytail. I rather like it! :D

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/Alvrodul/Updos%202012/crochetcapdowndo.jpg

bettylibertine

April 5th, 2012, 02:13 AM

Looks good Alvrodul! (And thanks for ressurecting this thread - I've been craving new hairstyles :p)

piffyanne

May 30th, 2012, 02:44 PM

Actually, I know an excellent one!! (My very favorite) It's hard to figure out, but I think I got it right (see my profile pic and avatar for details!). http://frazzledfrau.tripod.com/titanic/recamier.htm
I can help you figure this one out (or even post instructions!) if it doesn't make sense to you.

That's one of the four on this site http://frazzledfrau.tripod.com/titanic/hair.htm, but the only one I've had a chance to try to figure out, yet. I love that they're ACTUAL styles, and the text is copied out of an ACTUAL period Edwardian magazine. <3

This http://www.vintagevictorian.com/60h_page.html#page%2013 page has an extant Victorian hairstyle.

Here's another (Edwardian, I think, but it doesn't have a date on the page it's on) hairstyle I found a while ago http://chestofbooks.com/food/household/Woman-Encyclopaedia-4/2-The-Art-Of-Hairdressing-A-Practical-Coiffure.html. It suggests false hair, but some of you might be able to carry it off. (There are more hair style pages on that website, too, but take time to find.)

Does anyone know how to do this one http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Swirl-A.html? It's a favorite of mine... But I can't figure out how to make it stay up.:confused:

I hope this is enough to resurrect this poor, incredibly useful thread. :eyebrows:

bettylibertine

May 30th, 2012, 04:48 PM

Oh they're beautiful! Just about to go to class, but I shall take a closer look when I get the chance!
(Also - thanks for trying to ressurrect the thread, I had given up on it haha)

MasCat

May 31st, 2012, 08:45 AM

My favourite for now is the Caryatid project: Page of the project (http://www.fairfield.edu/cas/ah_caryatid.html)

And here is a vid I found of youtube, inspired by that: Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDG6uAGZDN8)

Alvrodul

May 31st, 2012, 12:40 PM

I like those Caryatid styles - I must try those! :D
(I think I'll be lazy, though, and do ordinary 3-strand braids instead of fishtails. ;))

Tisiloves

May 31st, 2012, 12:59 PM

Those Caryatid styles make me wish so hard that my hair a)was longer b)could do fishtails without a ton of oil c) could hold a curl.

Arciela

May 31st, 2012, 03:10 PM

I really love these hairstyles =D I want to try some!

PrincessIdril

May 31st, 2012, 04:55 PM

I can offer this:
http://imaginary-styles.iwarp.com/hair/pirate.html
It's based on one of Elizabeth Swann's hairstyles in the first Pirates movie. So basically it's a very simple 18th Century style.
I wore it for World Heritage Day last year (I was costumed as a Georgian lady). It's actually quite easy to do, though I can currently working on adapting that tutorial to make it more like the movie hair. I'll dig out pics later

I also do the simple Regency buns from this blog (but I think someone has already linked this blog): http://locksofelegance.blogspot.co.uk/p/regency.html

firegypsy

May 31st, 2012, 05:37 PM

this is a fantastic thread! I'm looking forward to some additional styles to add to my arsenal-this is great!

Dragon Faery

May 31st, 2012, 10:51 PM

Some hardcore historicals here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/jntvstp/featured

It's a little academic, but many of them are easily adapted to modern methods.

Thank you for this! ...This is as far through the thread as I've gotten yet, but I want to (a) mark my place, (b) thank all posters, and (c) keep this thread as alive as possible! :)

Alvrodul

June 1st, 2012, 04:57 AM

Caryatid updo! :D (But not with fishtail braids.:p)
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/Alvrodul/Updos%202012/Caryatidupdo.jpg

firegypsy

June 1st, 2012, 06:02 AM

woah. that's AWESOME.

bettylibertine

June 3rd, 2012, 06:05 AM

Thank you for your contributions everyone!
Alvrodul - that caryatid braid is beautiful!

morguebabe

June 3rd, 2012, 06:07 AM

I have some victory rolls in my album as well some vintage hair toys from that era.

Jeleebaby

June 3rd, 2012, 03:18 PM

Tisiloves

June 3rd, 2012, 03:21 PM

This is probably the closest I've come to doing historical type styles, not sure what it's called. Think this hair might be a bit long for the style as it stands a really long way off her head.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e19/jeleebaby/084a3695.jpg

It looks like a braided Gibson Tuck. I think you might have to transition to the alternative method http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u4neDtqsDk&feature=plcp :D

GlennaGirl

June 3rd, 2012, 03:23 PM

This is probably the closest I've come to doing historical type styles, not sure what it's called. Think this hair might be a bit long for the style as it stands a really long way off her head.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e19/jeleebaby/084a3695.jpg

Awwwwwwwwwww! Oh my goodness, I just wanna kiss that sweet baby girl! Isn't her hair just beautiful. How old is she?

Such a sweet picture!

Jeleebaby

June 3rd, 2012, 03:24 PM

She's 7, she'll be 8 at the end of July. I really should post a picture of her face not just her hair! Lol

GlennaGirl

June 3rd, 2012, 03:26 PM

She's 7, she'll be 8 at the end of July. I really should post a picture of her face not just her hair! Lol

Nah, I get that, I personally am very very leery of posting my kids' faces on thuh Interwebs. :p But she looks like a little dear, and so patient to sit through that at just 7. Pretty hairstyle!

Jeleebaby

June 3rd, 2012, 03:29 PM

Nah, I get that, I personally am very very leery of posting my kids' faces on thuh Interwebs. :p But she looks like a little dear, and so patient to sit through that at just 7. Pretty hairstyle!

She is very patient, but I suppose she is just used to it now, as soon as she had enough hair to put it fuzzy little pigtails I started putting it up, now it's just normal for her, she also loves the attention that her long hair and pretty styles get.

heidi w.

June 3rd, 2012, 03:49 PM

She's 7, she'll be 8 at the end of July. I really should post a picture of her face not just her hair! Lol

I wouldn't post a pix of her face on Mane Forum. Maybe in a privately set album, but not on Mane Forum which is a forum that anyone can see, even if they haven't posted 100 posts, and are not a member here. There ARE lurkers with agendas on websites as LHC, even though LHC tries hard to overall protect the privacy of members. Mostly, I like seeing updos from behind or the side cause then I can really see what's going on. From the front, an updo is more hidden, and I can't see much anyway.

I recommend being very careful about posting of children's pictures in general anywhere online. Stuff happens.

Must say, though, she is cute, and that's a beautiful updo. A lot of work on Mommy's part. I bet she was thrilled that day.

heidi w.

bettylibertine

June 4th, 2012, 05:10 AM

jeleebaby that style is beautiful on your little girl!

piffyanne

June 9th, 2012, 12:33 AM

>jumping the thread with wires hooked up to her car<

Has anyone tried Victory Rolls or the Veronica Lake Peekaboo style?

Sorry if these are huge:
Victory Rolls (with a snood at the back): http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/545681_10150844276372282_1669312686_n.jpg
Peekaboo: http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/545681_10150844276377282_1634142887_n.jpg

I promise, if this thread wakes up again, I'll put up a picture I've got of my great-aunt in a really cute 40's (or 50's? The photos it was with were mostly 50's dresses, but it might fit for 40's, too) hairstyle and you can all argue about how she achieved it until someone comes up with something else to talk about.

white.chocolate

June 9th, 2012, 01:50 AM

I love this blog: http://rapunzelsresource.wordpress.com/
she has great tutorials for period hairstyles!!:blossom:

This site is full of treasures!! :D (Yes, I know I'm late to say this now.) I'll be having a Victorian-themed wedding, so I'll be considering many of the ideas here and this thread.

firegypsy

June 9th, 2012, 05:36 AM

I want more angles of the victory rolls action! It looks amazing on you! And YES to more photos!

Arrow

June 9th, 2012, 12:04 PM

Hmm... I'm not sure if anything in my repitoire counts as historical, but here goes...

EDIT: Turns out, I do have some.

Regency Scarf Bun:
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=9091&pictureid=118665

Hair Taping:
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=9624&pictureid=124472

Faux Hair Taping:
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=9227&pictureid=121400

Vintage Tuck:
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=9227&pictureid=121465

Plain Jane Bun:
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=9227&pictureid=120994

firegypsy

June 9th, 2012, 12:06 PM

oooh, whats the vintage tuck?

Arrow

June 9th, 2012, 12:09 PM

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEkmzJcNO3Y) is a Vintage Tuck

Madora

June 9th, 2012, 12:10 PM

oooh, whats the vintage tuck?

Firegypsy, it looks like it's closely related to the Gibson Tuck:

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=49

Arrow

June 9th, 2012, 12:13 PM

Firegypsy, it looks like it's closely related to the Gibson Tuck:

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=49

Except that I can't do a Gibson Tuck ;) The hair always falls through into a topsy tail :(

CryssieWillow

June 9th, 2012, 01:46 PM

I wrote a tutorial aaaages ago on a braid that looks like the braids in medieval and renaissance paintings.
It should be somewhere in the articles section.

kme81

June 11th, 2012, 12:37 AM

Except that I can't do a Gibson Tuck ;) The hair always falls through into a topsy tail :(
My hair always falls through a gibson tuck as well! I've had success with putting the bundled up hair into a sort of doubled up hairnet, then putting it in the "pocket"...I was able to wear it for almost the entire day!

Arya

June 11th, 2012, 12:38 AM

My hair always falls through a gibson tuck as well! I've had success with putting the bundled up hair into a sort of doubled up hairnet, then putting it in the "pocket"...I was able to wear it for almost the entire day!

Clever!!! We should start an 'escape artist hair' support thread!

Tisiloves

June 11th, 2012, 01:12 AM

Clever!!! We should start an 'escape artist hair' support thread!

I would definitely join, my hair makes Houdini look like a rank amateur.:o

Jeleebaby

June 11th, 2012, 05:53 AM

To stop the hair coming through on a Gibson pull it half through the band thenntwistbthe band and pull the rest through so it is in 2 loops. Won't fall through then.

piffyanne

June 12th, 2012, 03:29 AM

I threw my hair into another pair of loose Victory Rolls, this time with a false crown braid at the back.
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/556591_10150850132257282_1619830109_n.jpg
I parted my hair on the side from the front all the way back, and had one braid in the "crown" braid thicker than the other as a stylistic choice. I tend to think I look better with a side part with Victory Rolls, but I'll have to try them symmetrically sometime.

Crown braids WERE a hairstyle in the 1940's. Several stars wore them, but, like that famous woman whose name I can't currently remember, the braids look padded in the Hollywood glamour shots. The Normals wearing them didn't seem to pad them, though, so we're normal either way.

I went looking for other images of the hairstyle I showed last time still (found them, but they're huge, and rather than resize them, I went out to take a new one. I'm so normal.)

If you want photos of the last style, too, I'll get on it.

Bonus: Edwardian Gibson Girl, complete with Pompadour:
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/575261_10150850142737282_1643785144_n.jpg

Keep posting, guys! :pray:

sarahbrownie

June 20th, 2012, 11:17 AM

I threw my hair into another pair of loose Victory Rolls, this time with a false crown braid at the back.
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/556591_10150850132257282_1619830109_n.jpg
I parted my hair on the side from the front all the way back, and had one braid in the "crown" braid thicker than the other as a stylistic choice. I tend to think I look better with a side part with Victory Rolls, but I'll have to try them symmetrically sometime.

Crown braids WERE a hairstyle in the 1940's. Several stars wore them, but, like that famous woman whose name I can't currently remember, the braids look padded in the Hollywood glamour shots. The Normals wearing them didn't seem to pad them, though, so we're normal either way.

Fantastic hair! I love your blouse and make-up, you look beautiful!

Here's my hair! I've been getting into the 1940s and sewing a lot more 1940 style items lately. My clothes aren't exactly period, but I got better at victory rolls. It just takes practice.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Irina21/vintagehair1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Irina21/vintagehair2.jpg

Tisiloves

June 20th, 2012, 03:21 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Irina21/vintagehair2.jpg

Woo, victory rolls all the way round, I'm dizzy.:D

Dovetail

June 20th, 2012, 03:52 PM

I just posted one here on my blog: http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/blog.php?b=101848

I'd love to see someone try it!

Tisiloves

July 4th, 2012, 08:00 PM

Janet Stephens Just posted a teaser!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBq5Y4p0IIU&feature=g-u-u

Alvrodul

July 13th, 2012, 09:44 AM

Here is an Aphrodite Knot (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_30u_7KOAo) - from Ancient Greece. Amazingly quick to do, fut is really best with curly or at least wavy hair. As you can see, it also works with braidwaves! I have added a couple of hairpins to the knot, just in case my slippery hair wanted to do a Houdini maneuver and slip out of the knot. Worked very well, the hair has stayed in place all day! :D
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/Alvrodul/Updos%202012/Aphroditeknot.jpg

bettylibertine

July 15th, 2012, 11:03 PM

How lovely Alvorodul! Thanks for sharing. Migh have to give that one a go :D

bettylibertine

July 16th, 2012, 12:44 AM

I threw my hair into another pair of loose Victory Rolls, this time with a false crown braid at the back.
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/556591_10150850132257282_1619830109_n.jpg
[snip]
Bonus: Edwardian Gibson Girl, complete with Pompadour:
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/575261_10150850142737282_1643785144_n.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Irina21/vintagehair1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Irina21/vintagehair2.jpg

Absolutely lovely!

spirals

July 16th, 2012, 02:41 AM

This site isn't so much about tutorials, but it is the reincarnation of one of my favorite vintage hair sites. The archives have great pictures.

http://www.hairarchives.com/private/mainnew.htm

bettylibertine

July 31st, 2012, 10:32 PM

I've just checked out that site spirals and it's awesome! Some good inspiration there :D
(sorry it's taken me so long, been super busy with uni)

Patty lou

August 3rd, 2012, 06:17 PM

Thank you, Madora! It was quite practical and comfy too. :D

Alvrodul How did you start the Cleopatra braid ????????????

It looks so classy.

Patty lou

Arakazi

August 3rd, 2012, 07:31 PM

Such pretty hair styles! Keep them coming :)

Alvrodul

August 3rd, 2012, 07:45 PM

Alvrodul How did you start the Cleopatra braid ????????????

It looks so classy.

Patty lou

Tutorial for the hairstyle is here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QigGoRY_Nic). :D

bettylibertine

August 4th, 2012, 06:01 AM

That Cleopatra hairstyle really is lovely. :D
One of my favourite hairstyles was inspired by it - tutorial here (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=94400).

ETA: realised that I missed a whole page of this thread - sorry everyone, promise I'm not ignoring you on purpose :flower: :p

piffyanne

August 5th, 2012, 02:29 AM

>Glances around< CLEAR!!! >shock, shock!<

>snip<Here's my hair! I've been getting into the 1940s and sewing a lot more 1940 style items lately. My clothes aren't exactly period, but I got better at victory rolls. It just takes practice.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Irina21/vintagehair1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Irina21/vintagehair2.jpg

I'm still :thud:ding over the victory rolls all around your head. HOW do you DO that?? :confused: I've been trying (and FAILING MISERABLY) to dissect it in my brain this whole time.

My pride lost out to my desire to know how that works. Tell! Tellll!:eyebrows:

Here. Just to keep us all moving forward (this is my FAVORITE thread. Seriously. No contest.):

Shall we continue our wander through history via Piffyanne's head? :rolleyes:

A variation on the Oval Bun with a Victorian theme (for my Civil War impression): http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/292950_10150955954582282_1630291300_n.jpg
It's meant to be vaguely reminiscent of this sketch by Albert of Queen Victoria http://media.queenvictoriasjournals.org/multimedia/images/sk001/sk0010226.thumb.jpg

Annnnd the back of my head:
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/185507_10150955954617282_265542555_n.jpg

Did I just start the thread's pulse again? >hopeful<

bettylibertine

August 5th, 2012, 04:19 AM

piffyanne that hairstyle is awesome!
I have another one to share, once I get around to taking some photos!

Arakazi

August 6th, 2012, 03:44 PM

I have been keeping an eye out for new pics or tutorials to ad to this wonderful thread!

bettylibertine

August 13th, 2012, 12:55 AM

Right guys, I have another two hairstyles for ya.
I came up with these ones (but they are basically tweaked versions of some hairstyles on youtube)

The first came from this tutorial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QJWdS2ELzs&list=UU7-EmlzXcVLbAd03Oo1bXAw&index=2&feature=plcp). Instead of fishtailing I did a regular three strand braid, and before I ponytailed my hair I took a section on each side of my face, twisted, poofed them out and pinned them (I do this with most of my hairstyles as I feel it suits my face better).

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n199/cherryflavouredtrash/Braidedflip.jpg

The second is basically a higher version of Torrin Paige's tutorial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N7_7_NlnF0), but higher with the same bit at the front as the other style. (Apologies for the frizzies etc., I have had the style in all day!)

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n199/cherryflavouredtrash/Victoriando.jpg

If anyone would like me to upload proper instructions for these hairstyles just let me know :)

bettylibertine

August 13th, 2012, 12:57 AM

Also LaDollyVita's new Grecian Braid "Wheel" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOE5-2ZvcH4&feature=g-u-u) is gorgeous!

Renbirde

August 13th, 2012, 01:47 AM

Hang on, how has no one shared the Elling Braid (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=14032)yet?

Elling Woman is a Danish bog body dating from about 300 BC. She had massively long hair, and her hair AND the style she was wearing were preserved. There is a diagram here (http://www.tollundman.dk/gifs/elling-frisure.gif): it's a series of rope braids (3,5,7 strands) worked into English braids, held together with nothing more than hair and maybe some pomade.

The full version is a bit of work, what with all the sectioning involved, but it's a very comfortable style, and if you skip the rope braids and go straight for the English, it's easy, quick, and comfortable.

Crossposted:

This is my attempt at the Elling Woman's hairstyle. I fudged it a bit-- I didn't do the rope braids...

1-- My approximation of the hairstyle as it came out of the bog. I don't have long enough hair or enough taper to make it look quite right-- and my hair isn't oiled enough to like holding itself together. The piece of hair holding the braid is already loosening.

2-- Here it is all bunned up, as per the theory that the original 'do was found in a somewhat unraveled state. My ends are sticking out badly-- EW had very thin ends and I bet she could have wrapped them under at least three times. Quite secure for her, not so much for me. -_-;

3-- I started the second part of the braid too low on my head, which meant that the bun made it hard for me to move my head. I pulled the braid back out-- you can see how much it's unraveled, just with the action on bunning and unbunning.

4-- I rebraided the lower part of the braid, starting higher on my head, and fastened it with an elastic.

5-- Here it is up in EW's single loop.

6-- Here it is with another turn around.

7-- And one more turn. My ends really don't want to stay underneath...

It's very comfortable, and not too hard to do. :) Good stuff.

http://i32.tinypic.com/15r1gg6.png

(Sorry about the image quality. I pushed it down to help with load time.)

As someone else commented, the last wrap or two don't really want to stay. I think having taper would help that a lot. Since I have almost none due to my Big Chop, I stuck a hairstick through instead. :D It worked pretty well.

bettylibertine

August 13th, 2012, 03:55 AM

Thanks Renbirde! I completely forgot about the Elling woman braid.
It's so cool!

Arakazi

August 13th, 2012, 01:26 PM

bettylibertine your styles look lovely!! And you definitely need to do a tutorial on these updo's! :cheer:

And Renbirde that Elling woman braid looks awesome! Thanks for the instructions! :D

bettylibertine

August 13th, 2012, 03:53 PM

Will do Arakazi when I get a chance :D

tambalina

August 13th, 2012, 05:52 PM

I love vintage hairdos! Just subscribing so I can try out these out when I have the time!

Dorothy

August 13th, 2012, 08:54 PM

I did the aphrodite knot on my ex, it looked FABULOUS but too feminine for her taste. I highly recommend any curly girls to try this super easy very cute style. That hair archaologist does a version on youtube you can google.

My hair is way straight and lacks any poof that helps with these styles, for the most part.

bettylibertine

August 13th, 2012, 10:54 PM

Dorothy - that aphrodite knot is really a lovely style, I bet it looked lovely!
Maybe you could try doing the styles with bun waves or something like them if you are having troubles?

Alvrodul

August 15th, 2012, 09:05 AM

This one is easy. Made a ponytail, braided it, and then pulled the braid through the base several times, and hid the end of the braid. Adorned with vintage combs.
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/Alvrodul/Hairtoys%202012/niellocombs.jpg

piffyanne

August 15th, 2012, 09:20 AM

:agape:

No, I am not stalking you, I was following this thread obsessively before you posted pictures of your vintage lovelies, but I love, I love, I love you for posting that!

:inlove: I just bought a set of Vintage hairtoys from Calaelen (hope I spelled that right!). I'll be adding actionshots of my own, too! We need a :staytuned: icon, haha! (Yes, we have popcorn, but it's not really usable for oneself. :shrug:)

When first I appear, I seem mysterious but when I'm explained, I'm nothing serious.

Alvrodul

August 15th, 2012, 09:24 AM

Until your lovelies arrive, I think that the :mail: icon should work well enough! ;)
Thank you for your kind words on the style. :flower: I hope you ignored the "antenna" on the right. :p

Neecola

August 15th, 2012, 09:51 AM

Just lovely, Alvrodul! I love things in threes and the combs put together like that is beautiful. Also, the style seems simple enough that I may be able to do it one day.

Thanks for sharing!

piffyanne

August 15th, 2012, 01:11 PM

Until your lovelies arrive, I think that the :mail: icon should work well enough! ;)
Thank you for your kind words on the style. :flower: I hope you ignored the "antenna" on the right. :p

Haha, I didn't even SEE the antenna until you pointed it out. My own hair likes to keep a sharp lookout for trouble, so I'm used to seeing a meerkat-like Designated Scout on me.

That's only when I'm lucky mind you: I'm usually ALSO rocking the Golden Halo O' Frizz. I'm a closet curlygirl; I try the CG techniques but the lengths pull it straight, so my hair gets mad at me EVEN when I try to appease it. I cannot win. Oy.

Tisiloves

August 15th, 2012, 01:17 PM

I hope you ignored the "antenna" on the right. :p

Didn't even register, I always have at least one, I figure it just comes with the territory of being a straightie.

JuliaDancer

August 15th, 2012, 02:56 PM

At Piffyanne's suggestion, I'm adding my vintage hair pic here:

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx191/litlhafgost/EngagementHair.jpg

I did this for my engagement photo shoot.

Alvrodul

August 15th, 2012, 03:00 PM

At Piffyanne's suggestion, I'm adding my vintage hair pic here:

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx191/litlhafgost/EngagementHair.jpg

I did this for my engagement photo shoot.
Ooooh, that is lovely! I love those swirly curls! :crush:
And those flowers make the updo perfect! :D

JuliaDancer

August 15th, 2012, 03:09 PM

Thanks! =)

Dorothy

August 15th, 2012, 06:53 PM

Love those combs, avrodul, and your bun is lovely as well.

My hair is so straight, braidwaves just don't amount to much, and it's never even held a heated curl, which hasn't happened anyway for 15 years or so. I've done ragcurls that might make it work, but I'd have to wait until winter, the humidity around here straighten my hair too much.

I'm so enjoying this thread.

Rufflebutt

August 15th, 2012, 08:55 PM

I'm a HUGE fan of the gibson tuck. :) Here's a tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5JZOVnSjjE

bettylibertine

August 15th, 2012, 09:17 PM

That's a shame Dorothy. Please do post pics though if you end up trying any of the styles! And I'm so glad you're enjoying the thread - so am I :D

Thanks for the contribution Rufflebutt!

AnqeIicDemise

August 16th, 2012, 12:36 AM

bettylibertine

August 16th, 2012, 12:48 AM

Oooh.. she's at it again!

This time on Papillotte curls -- side note: I finally understood why "papalote" is kite in Mexican spanish (there are some idioms that confuse me in the variations of different Spanish...). Papillote is french for butterfly and kites do look like butterflies in flight! /sidetrack

Butterfly curls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP9PJsY5__4&feature=g-user-u)

Oooooh! I would really like to try these without the heat, and see how they turn out. I thought maybe if I slept in a cap and bobby pinned the curls it might work. Hmm..

Thanks for sharing! :flower:

AnqeIicDemise

August 16th, 2012, 01:02 AM

Oooooh! I would really like to try these without the heat, and see how they turn out. I thought maybe if I slept in a cap and bobby pinned the curls it might work. Hmm..

Thanks for sharing! :flower:

How about making the papilottes then slipping a bobby pin or a clip over the bottom, sort of like a paperclip holding paper, then the cap?

bettylibertine

August 16th, 2012, 01:27 AM

Aaahh yes, good idea.
I'll be sure to post results when I get around to it!

piffyanne

August 16th, 2012, 01:58 AM

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

Still waiting for my:mail: for my hairlovelies!, stay tuned while I stay tuned for the Damage-Free Papillote results!

By the way, am I the only one who was getting a creeping, sneaking suspicion that she was pronouncing Papillote wrong? I mean, papillon is not pronounced PAH-pee-LAWN, but PAH-pee-YAWN. If Papillote is derived from what I think it's derived from, the "ll" should be making a "y" sound.

Even if it ISN'T derived from the French word for "butterfly", it STILL would be a "y" sound, because that's the way French works! ETA: just finished doing my homework, and the word papillote apparently means “paper”, and it is indeed French. My complaint about pronunciation still stands.

Also, it's not going to be an English term, because they were SO VERY into using French terminology for EVERYTHING related to the Coiffure. (See that? That's a French term THERE!!)

Yeah, I get picky over the small stuff, sorry about that. She's providing information people will be passing on, so she has an obligation to pronounce things correctly at the risk that falsities will be engrained in the truths they accompany, and be impossible to stamp out later.:rolleyes:

I promise not to find anything wrong with your Papillote curls, though! POST THEM!:cheese:

Tisiloves

August 16th, 2012, 09:19 AM

Ok, not a no heat method, but I'm pretty sure if you used perm papers on lightly damp/spritzed hair for papillote curls, and maybe stuck a heatcap/ towel with blow fryer on it you'd get a pretty good/long lasting result.

piffyanne

August 16th, 2012, 01:23 PM

Now I think about it, there is a way to sneak even classic+ hair into that short length if you want to do a Georgian impression: curl the length, and when you take it out of the curl, put a portion of the curl nearest the scalp right back in a slinkie-like tightly pressed curl, and pin the curl with two X'd bobbypins so it's secured flat to the scalp hair. Take the remaining APL, flip-length, or however much you left out, toss it to “frizz” it, and the resultant mass of curly, period-correct Georgian Afro will hide the disguised lengths! Wooooo hoooooo!!!

Kizuna

August 16th, 2012, 01:35 PM

Kizuna

August 16th, 2012, 01:44 PM

Inspired by the awesome hairstyles in this thread, I want to share one I've made.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--HlByUzc61g/T7gnEpQD3bI/AAAAAAAAAaA/2rMvmzVS8aE/s1600/gibson+tuck.jpg

I've really got inspired and I'll try to make some of the styles shown here! ^^

Alvrodul

August 16th, 2012, 03:05 PM

bettylibertine

August 16th, 2012, 03:48 PM

Beautiful styles JuliaDancer and Kizuna!
Thanks for sharing :flower:

bettylibertine

August 16th, 2012, 03:50 PM

Good suggestion Tisiloves! :)
Piffyanne that would look awesome! And confuse everyone that knows how long your hair really is :laugh:

angelgypsy

August 16th, 2012, 03:57 PM

Am I the only one who when looking at the title of this thread reads "Hysterical" instead of "Historical"?

piffyanne

August 16th, 2012, 06:19 PM

Am I the only one who when looking at the title of this thread reads "Hysterical" instead of "Historical"?
Great, now you've got ME doing it, too! :rollin:

angelgypsy

August 17th, 2012, 02:52 PM

Great, now you've got ME doing it, too! :rollin:

:bowtome: I live to serve!

As a bad example!!!!:D

millyaulait

August 17th, 2012, 02:57 PM

Wow, that's a beautiful updo! :D

Ohhh, beautiful! Such glossy hair, too. :)

Dizzy_zzz

August 17th, 2012, 07:22 PM

Hi! First off, I love vintage hairstyles, but I don't do very many, because most of them seem to require centre parts and centre parts don't suit me at all! :o So, no pictures from me... just stakling of this thread! hehe

By the way, am I the only one who was getting a creeping, sneaking suspicion that she was pronouncing Papillote wrong? I mean, papillon is not pronounced PAH-pee-LAWN, but PAH-pee-YAWN. If Papillote is derived from what I think it's derived from, the "ll" should be making a "y" sound.

Even if it ISN'T derived from the French word for "butterfly", it STILL would be a "y" sound, because that's the way French works! ETA: just finished doing my homework, and the word papillote apparently means “paper”, and it is indeed French. My complaint about pronunciation still stands.

Yeah, I get picky over the small stuff, sorry about that. She's providing information people will be passing on, so she has an obligation to pronounce things correctly at the risk that falsities will be engrained in the truths they accompany, and be impossible to stamp out later.:rolleyes:

I don't mean to offend you, but I'm the same way so I just I'd let you know that "papillote" is actually a diminutive of papillon, and that the French word for paper is "papier". Also, it's pronunciation is more like "pa-peE-YOH-ohn", if that makes sense :shrug:. A papillote is the decorative paper they put around the bone of a cutlet.

Edit: I just looked it up, and apparently in Old French, "papillote" means ornament for the hair. I thought that was kind of neat! :D

piffyanne

August 17th, 2012, 10:49 PM

>snip<I don't mean to offend you, but I'm the same way so I just I'd let you know that "papillote" is actually a diminutive of papillon, and that the French word for paper is "papier". Also, it's pronunciation is more like "pa-peE-YOH-ohn", if that makes sense :shrug:. A papillote is the decorative paper they put around the bone of a cutlet.
Yes, what I meant was the "ll" made a "y" noise in French, and you seem to agree with me there. I'm perfectly willing to be corrected on my pronunciation of French words, though! Let's co-exist happily!! :joy::flowers:

Edit: I just looked it up, and apparently in Old French, "papillote" means ornament for the hair. I thought that was kind of neat! :D
REALLY?? AWESOME!!! :hollie: I'm going to have to go name a hairtoy that!

It's an especially fitting name because GRU and Nae recently confirmed my decision to name my hair La Révolution because, as GRU puts it, "It defies society's 'standards' and it defies all attempts to control it!"
/Backstory Hijack Begins/
My scalp recently started putting out a new generation of hair, all the same length so it looks like a 1-hairstrand-deep layer all around my head. The new hairs are black instead of my patented Piffyanne Original shade, VERY curly, and highly confusing. They also respond to stimuli differently than the older generations, the little whippersnappers!
In desperation, I tried smoothing water on it (after days of a mini lion-mane-dandelion-puff-porcupine-impression-thing rising chaotically above my more well-behaved length) and the next time I glanced at it (by which I mean seconds later, when I had finished drying my hands), it was suddenly in Botticelli ringlets, and I could hear it cackling insanely.
/End Hijack/
The Revolution has finally come. My new growth of sans-culottes intend to overthrow my aristocratic longlocks.:rolleyes:

This is doubly hilarious because I get to crack tons of in-bad-taste jokes about guillotines whenever I S&D!;)

Have you guys seen this one yet?http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/394567_10150955954542282_203245261_n.jpg
It's a variation on the Récamier coiffure I was raving on about a while back, adapted for Regency to some extent. It produces what I can only describe as the Headeating Bun O' Doom.
ETA: Please forgive all lumps, etc., DBF's idea of a good time is going to a reenactment without a MIRROR, so this was done blind. :shrug:

bettylibertine

August 18th, 2012, 12:43 AM

Love that hairstyle piffyanne!

Dizzy_zzz: I have the same problem with the center part, so I always just replace it with a side part! Possibly less authentic, but at least I feel good! :laugh: :D

kme81

August 19th, 2012, 11:53 PM

Take the remaining APL, flip-length, or however much you left out, toss it to “frizz” it, and the resultant mass of curly, period-correct Georgian Afro will hide the disguised lengths! Wooooo hoooooo!!!
That part made me giggle. :)
This thread exploded over the past week! Yay! :D

piffyanne

August 20th, 2012, 01:33 AM

That part made me giggle. :)
We (used in the pretentious Royal first-person kind of way) aim to please!:D

This thread exploded over the past week! Yay! :D
I know!!! :crush:

Dizzy_zzz

August 20th, 2012, 02:50 PM

Yes, what I meant was the "ll" made a "y" noise in French, and you seem to agree with me there. I'm perfectly willing to be corrected on my pronunciation of French words, though! Let's co-exist happily!! :joy:

REALLY?? AWESOME!!! I'm going to have to go name a hairtoy that!

It's an especially fitting name because GRU and Nae recently confirmed my decision to name my hair La Révolution because, as GRU puts it, "It defies society's 'standards' and it defies all attempts to control it!"
/Backstory Hijack Begins/
My scalp recently started putting out a new generation of hair, all the same length so it looks like a 1-hairstrand-deep layer all around my head. The new hairs are black instead of my patented Piffyanne Original shade, VERY curly, and highly confusing. They also respond to stimuli differently than the older generations, the little whippersnappers!
In desperation, I tried smoothing water on it (after days of a mini lion-mane-dandelion-puff-porcupine-impression-thing rising chaotically above my more well-behaved length) and the next time I glanced at it (by which I mean seconds later, when I had finished drying my hands), it was suddenly in Botticelli ringlets, and I could hear it cackling insanely.
/End Hijack/
The Revolution has finally come. My new growth of sans-culottes intend to overthrow my aristocratic longlocks.:rolleyes:

This is doubly hilarious because I get to crack tons of in-bad-taste jokes about guillotines whenever I S&D!;)

Yep, I agree about the "ll" thing, but only if there's an "i" in front; for example, "balle" (ball) is pronouced "BAH-luh" (sorta) with a regular "l" sound wheareas "baille" (yawn) is pronounced like you said, with a "y" sound, because there is the "i" present.
Yay! I'm happy to coexist happily! :D

We should probably stop hijacking the thread with our language discussion, though , or there'll be a riot, hehe :p :o Sorry, everybody...

I have to say though, your hair scares me! If it can pull off such a successful revolution, what will it do next?! Take over the world? Maybe it has to do with what they say about hair changing every seven years (no clue if it's true, but hey! Why not?), but your's is going all out!

As for your hairstyle picture, all I can say, or rather, not say, is this: :agape:

Love that hairstyle piffyanne!

Dizzy_zzz: I have the same problem with the center part, so I always just replace it with a side part! Possibly less authentic, but at least I feel good! :laugh: :D

True, and I guess it probably slightly modernises it depending on the hairstyle, so you can wear it out without getting weird looks

SO! I'm going to try these (with side parts ;) ) styles!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhY-ha-yvus&feature=plcp

and the style at 2:10 in the following video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBq5Y4p0IIU&feature=context-chv

Of course they're both by Janet Stephens, because she's amazing.

Alvrodul

August 20th, 2012, 03:02 PM

Yes, what I meant was the "ll" made a "y" noise in French, and you seem to agree with me there. I'm perfectly willing to be corrected on my pronunciation of French words, though! Let's co-exist happily!! :joy::flowers:

REALLY?? AWESOME!!! :hollie: I'm going to have to go name a hairtoy that!

It's an especially fitting name because GRU and Nae recently confirmed my decision to name my hair La Révolution because, as GRU puts it, "It defies society's 'standards' and it defies all attempts to control it!"
/Backstory Hijack Begins/
My scalp recently started putting out a new generation of hair, all the same length so it looks like a 1-hairstrand-deep layer all around my head. The new hairs are black instead of my patented Piffyanne Original shade, VERY curly, and highly confusing. They also respond to stimuli differently than the older generations, the little whippersnappers!
In desperation, I tried smoothing water on it (after days of a mini lion-mane-dandelion-puff-porcupine-impression-thing rising chaotically above my more well-behaved length) and the next time I glanced at it (by which I mean seconds later, when I had finished drying my hands), it was suddenly in Botticelli ringlets, and I could hear it cackling insanely.
/End Hijack/
The Revolution has finally come. My new growth of sans-culottes intend to overthrow my aristocratic longlocks.:rolleyes:

This is doubly hilarious because I get to crack tons of in-bad-taste jokes about guillotines whenever I S&D!;)

Have you guys seen this one yet?http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/394567_10150955954542282_203245261_n.jpg
It's a variation on the Récamier coiffure I was raving on about a while back, adapted for Regency to some extent. It produces what I can only describe as the Headeating Bun O' Doom.
ETA: Please forgive all lumps, etc., DBF's idea of a good time is going to a reenactment without a MIRROR, so this was done blind. :shrug:
:spitting:Loved your backstory hijack!
I have wanted to try the Récamier coiffure, but couldn't quite make sense of the descriptions. Do you think you could do a Youtube tutorial some time? And I definitely like your Regency Bun o' Doom! :lol:

AnqeIicDemise

August 20th, 2012, 03:29 PM

I too was bothered by the ll and y sound. I thought Spanish and French were very similar in sounds. You live. You learn. Every new day is a new experience. :D

bettylibertine

August 20th, 2012, 11:27 PM

[snip]
True, and I guess it probably slightly modernises it depending on the hairstyle, so you can wear it out without getting weird looks

SO! I'm going to try these (with side parts ;) ) styles!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhY-ha-yvus&feature=plcp

and the style at 2:10 in the following video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBq5Y4p0IIU&feature=context-chv

Of course they're both by Janet Stephens, because she's amazing.

Yay! Please post pics when you do! :D

piffyanne

August 21st, 2012, 02:02 AM

:spitting:Loved your backstory hijack!
I have wanted to try the Récamier coiffure, but couldn't quite make sense of the descriptions. Do you think you could do a Youtube tutorial some time? And I definitely like your Regency Bun o' Doom! >smiley removed for image count<

There was a thread in the archives about the Recamier. Here's a link to it. It may help you out until I've got the TIME to make a video:o! http://archive.longhaircommunity.com/archive/index.php/t-18420.html

To avoid a complete hijack, I intend to start a new Recamier thread when I sit down and make clear instructions as I've been meaning to do for a year now. It would make it easier for LHCers who aren't following this thread to find, and it's so gorgeous I think it should have its own name. Please don't think I'm looking for attention. :flower:

RE your request, Alvrodul, I have a question, a suggestion, and a stipulation.

Question: do you mind if I start filming for the video AFTER I've got the Edwardian poof (Gibson Pompadour, haha!) done? It sometimes takes me 2-5 tries to get it. :rolleyes: The video would be pretty boring if you had to sit there watching me fail for the first ten minutes, and my editing software stopped working about 4 years ago. :rant:

I'd start getting hilarious (to those who know what I've named my hair) comments saying "Your video, and your hair, are REVOLTING!" :D:D

There are YouTube videos on how to do it. Here is a youtube video to accomplish the Gibson Pompadour (the part I hope to skip) by our very own LittleOrca, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M77hqKdnQf8. To do my pompadour, I used a combo of this one ^ and this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRPFmWSzYTA (if she's a LHCer, I'm sorry I can't give Tristanc2003 credit, I don't know her LHC name, or if it's the same?) to get mine to work right. The twist Tristanc2003 uses after poofing her hair up helped me a LOT. It's also makes what the next paragraph talks about easier to do.

I may buckle down and include the pompadour creation in three parts, if I can get it to work while simultaneously filming myself.

Instead of bunning the hair as LittleOrca has done as soon as she made the pompadour, you'll want to pin the hair behind the pompadour with crossed/"X"'d bobbypins (Tristanc2003 does it the way I mean here), as you'll need all that length for the style. Also, the Recamier's instructions suggest you do the pompadour not in ONE section but in three. That eliminates to some extent the wide part framing the face at the side of the pompadour, as is shown in both their videos. I had trouble doing it in 3's sometimes, and sometimes it worked out BETTER. Your hair, and your milage will CERTAINLY vary.

Suggestion for the Meantime: if you intend to do the Recamier, start collecting the hair on your hairbrush NOW: you're going to want to make a "rat" (a tube of hair) that wraps around your head from at least one ear, over the top, to your other ear like a headband. That'll help hold your Gibson Pompadour (scientifically technical word: pouf/fluffything:p) of hair in place. Depending on the rate of your shed, this may or may not take a while.

Stipulation: if/when I make the tutorial, please, please, PLEASE forgive any poor results hairstyle-wise at the end of the video; my hair has been known to rebel (in fact, it's FAMOUS for it!!) when it knows I really care what it ends up looking like for a specific occasion. (Living up to its name again. ;))

In the meantime, my hairtoys came, and I had dad take a picture with AND without flash so I could share them, but the light balance was so WEIRD that I don't feel comfortable sharing them. I'll try to get them photographed in natural sunlight for you guys soon!! :flowers:

bettylibertine

August 21st, 2012, 04:15 AM

Oooh piffyanne I just googled the Récamier coiffure. It is GORGEOUS.
Will be eagerly awaiting a video tutorial when you get the time!

Also, apologies for my lack of contribution - thanks to a background download we ran out of internet about two-thirds of the way through the month :nono:
AND I had an assignment to research for. Not impressed. :rant:

On a better note, my uni break starts next week so I'll be getting on to doing tutorials for the hairstyles I posted! Hurrah! :D
There's also a picture of a Victorian 'do on my computer that I would like to give a go. So hopefully there will be hairstyles incoming!

piffyanne

August 21st, 2012, 12:56 PM

:drama:

I can NOT wait!! :cheer: :D

Kizuna

August 21st, 2012, 03:27 PM

First off: Thanks for the comments on my haristyle a couple of pages ago.

Secondly: I'll be soo looking forward to your tutorials! I'll subscribe to this thread! (Why didn't I think of that before!?)

JuliaDancer

August 23rd, 2012, 12:23 PM

piffyanne

August 23rd, 2012, 12:47 PM

I went to the Jazz Age Lawn Party this past weekend, and thought I would post a pic! It was my first attempt at fingerwaves in maybe a year, so I had to fight with it for a while. Only ended up with one real wave on this side, and two on the other. Oh well... I did get a lot of compliments, and my hair stayed put all day, thanks to the headband I made out of a beaded applique and stretch sequin trim for only $8!

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx191/litlhafgost/1920shair.jpg
OOOOOOOH! GORGEOUS!

May I ask what did you to with the back of your head/disguise length? 20's hairstyles were often short. Did you use the period-correct way (see below) to disguise long hair as a shingle-cut? :popcorn: Keeping it long would actually be very correct, since women often used those headbands to re-attach the hair they'd chopped for an evening look, as it's hard to make a bob look any different for night than it looks for daywear. :shrug:

Now I want to see a back-view, too! Am I impossible to please?? ;)

Oh, Ladies/Gents, has anyone mentioned this thread: Authentic 1920's Long Hair Style: The Shingled Look http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=15791 before? This is what I meant, JuliaDancer. I'm not saying whatever you did with your hair is NOT period correct, mind! :D

Alvrodul

August 23rd, 2012, 02:54 PM

JuliaDancer

August 24th, 2012, 06:33 AM

SerinaDaith

August 24th, 2012, 07:38 AM

I will lurk this thread until I have enough hair to actually attempt some of these styles, I may try the braided Grecian wheel when I hit APL though.

bettylibertine

August 24th, 2012, 08:07 AM

Alvorodul I'm not sure how I missed your latest style - sorry! It's lovely :D
JuliaDancer - how gorgeous. I love finger waves!

Okay, so I did the tutorials for those hairstyles.
Here's (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?p=2275632#post2275632) the link!

piffyanne

August 24th, 2012, 09:54 AM

Piffyanne, I wish I had that link before! No I didn't do it the period-correct way... I did 4 big, flat curls around the back at the base and kind of held them down over the top with the sequin headband. I was having trouble getting my fingerwaves to go all around my head, as I very very rarely do fingerwaves, so the back isn't anything special. It's got a slight wave, with the curls at the bottom in the headband. I don't think I have a photo of the back... =( So yes, you are impossible to please! =)
:rant: No pictures??! UNACCEPTABLE! DO IT AGAIN!!!!

;)

As I said before, I'm POSITIVE some woman dressed her hair like that, JuliaDancer. You did something using techniques that were widely known (those curls! :heart:), so you can bet that, readily available documentation or not, SOMEONE wore her hair like that! And I hope it looked HALF as good on them as it does on you! :flowers:

I've got a hairstyle on the brain right now: in one of the episodes of the Albert Campion murder mysteries (set in the 30's), Death of a Ghost, a woman who goes as Donna Beatrice (Donna as in the Italian word, "Bee-ya-tree-chee" to sound Italian), wears her hair in those ramhorn buns, braids spiraled and affixed to the sides of her head, and has a metal band set horizontally, wrapping around her forehead (if I remember properly). She's a hanger-on in the art crowd, and goes for the ethereal/romantic styles even when no one else she knows dresses that way. LOVE HER, and her HAIR! :agape:

I know that it's at least period-correct to some amount, because I've seen a headband like hers at a Vintage Clothing Show (didn't even ask the price, it looked expensive, based on the other wares in the booth: she charged me $60 for a HAT! :run: ), and Myrna Loy (talk about GORGEOUS!) wore the same buns in one of the The Thin Man (not to be confused with Slenderman, Hollyfire3 [no, I'm not teasing, jut reminded myself of you.:)]) movies, probably in the 30's or 40's. I'm pretty sure it's very accurate, though, based on the relatively high levels of historical correctness in other facets of the costuming department. :inlove:

Sadly, when I try it, they always fall apart. Anyone have any tricks to making those side-spiral braids stick apart from trying to bobby-pin them to within an inch of their pathetic lives? I've tried that plenty, and it don't work. :(

I typed this all up 4 times and my computer/internet/page kept resetting. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH

Calaelen

August 24th, 2012, 03:13 PM

(cross-posted from my vintage combs thread so that more may see it)

Here is one of my newest combs.

http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac210/luthienc/Untitled-1.jpg

and an older one I don't get to wear much

http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac210/luthienc/Untitled-2.jpg

http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac210/luthienc/IMG_0028.jpg

piffyanne

August 24th, 2012, 03:22 PM

Alvrodul

August 24th, 2012, 03:29 PM

bettylibertine

August 24th, 2012, 03:47 PM

:flowers:

I've got a hairstyle on the brain right now: in one of the episodes of the Albert Campion murder mysteries (set in the 30's), Death of a Ghost, a woman who goes as Donna Beatrice (Donna as in the Italian word, "Bee-ya-tree-chee" to sound Italian), wears her hair in those ramhorn buns, braids spiraled and affixed to the sides of her head, and has a metal band set horizontally, wrapping around her forehead (if I remember properly). She's a hanger-on in the art crowd, and goes for the ethereal/romantic styles even when no one else she knows dresses that way. LOVE HER, and her HAIR! :agape:
Woooah sounds so pretty! :flower:

Calaelen those combs are beautiful! And I love the colourful streaks in your hair :D

Alvrodul (I've already posted this on the thread) but that style is just gorgeous! And that Edwardian flower... :crush:

piffyanne

August 24th, 2012, 04:04 PM

This may not exactly be an authentic historical style, but it has the right feel to it, IMO. I've made a thread on it here (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=99710). :D
And the flower at least is Edwardian.

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/Alvrodul/Updos%202012/Edwardianflower.jpg

I see sparklies (not greying hair, the headjewelry type) peeking around the corner of your hairconfection. Tell us about them, too! :popcorn:

I love how supportive everyone is of each other on this thread! :D

Alvrodul

August 24th, 2012, 04:10 PM

I see sparklies (not greying hair, the headjewelry type) peeking around the corner of your hairconfection. Tell us about them, too! :popcorn:

I love how supportive everyone is of each other on this thread! :D
The little sparklies are decorated Amish hairpins, from Ravenslair. This hairstyle is asymmetric, and the hairpins fit well with the flower, so I used themas "counterweight" to the flower along the curve of the ammonite shell there.

bettylibertine

August 25th, 2012, 06:16 AM

Came up with a new style tonight!

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n199/cherryflavouredtrash/SDC19728.jpg http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n199/cherryflavouredtrash/SDC19718.jpg

I styled the front in the same way that I did for this (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=99696) one.
I divided the rest of my hair into four (two top, two bottom) and braided each section.
I then looped the left braids and pinned them underneath the top right braid - same goes for the right braids (except they were pinned under the top left braid).

It's very similar to the Cleopatra style, but with more braids! :)

Sarahlabyrinth

August 25th, 2012, 06:42 AM

That is such a beautiful style too!

I'm really looking forward to the time when my hair is long enough to get the same look.
Thank you for showing us these styles Bettylibertine.

Alvrodul

August 25th, 2012, 07:20 AM

Madora

August 25th, 2012, 09:01 AM

Your multi braided loops are very lovely, Bettylibertine!

Patty lou

August 25th, 2012, 01:34 PM

Those braided loops are lovely.
I must have hbby try them on me.

Patty lou

bettylibertine

August 25th, 2012, 03:19 PM

Thanks guys! I'm so glad everyone likes them :)

Arakazi

August 25th, 2012, 05:49 PM

Looks awesome bettylibertine!! I love it! I will give it a go soon and when I do I will post a pic. :crush: In love with this style!!

piffyanne

August 27th, 2012, 09:15 PM

Hmm, I'm not sure whether to make a new thread for this. It's not technically a "hairstyle," but it's certainly HISTORICAL!!:eyebrows::agape:

BEHOLD THE PERIOD-CORRECT HAIRTOYS! http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/excavation-reveals-ancient-hair-fashion.aspx?pageID=238&nID=28106&NewsCatID=375:magic::cheese::thud::joy::crush::clo ud9:

You're welcome. :D

bettylibertine

August 28th, 2012, 01:09 AM

:agape: those hairpins are SO COOL! Thanks for sharing Piffyanne!

Sarahlabyrinth

August 28th, 2012, 04:22 PM

That made me go on the hunt for ancient egyptian hairsticks and I found one which has the end decorated like a papyrus flower with a comb on top. So you have a hairstick and hair comb all in one. It looked very elegant too.

MrsGuther

August 28th, 2012, 06:34 PM

That Gibson Tuck hairstyle is very pretty! I like it! :)

piffyanne

August 28th, 2012, 11:17 PM

The Period-Hair-Related Article of the Day, as presented to Piffyanne by DBF on her facebook wall: http://www.retronaut.co/2012/08/girls-hairdo-reveals-love-life-1944/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HowToBeARetronaut+%28How+to+b e+a+Retronaut%29&utm_content=Yahoo!+Mail

Intriguing if it's true, no?

I'd ask my grandmother if she remembers this, but whenever I ask her about something I know to be true about the forties (which she lived through) she says, "Oh, none of my friends did that. Was it common?" and sounds surprised. She even said it about Victory Rolls, which I thought were Worn By Everyone, or something (maybe they had a different name? It was hard to describe them over the phone).

Patty lou

August 29th, 2012, 09:56 AM

Hi Betty
There is a book " More Beautiful Braids" by Patricia Coen and on pages 48-51
she gives great instructions on the 4 braid style, she calls it the "Gainsborough Braid"
She also does the Cleopatra braid and calls it "Evensong"

Patty lou

Patty lou

September 2nd, 2012, 09:08 AM

Hi Betty
How did you hide the center part in the back???????????

Patty lou

bettylibertine

September 3rd, 2012, 02:23 AM

Thank you Arakazi :D :blossom:

That made me go on the hunt for ancient egyptian hairsticks and I found one which has the end decorated like a papyrus flower with a comb on top. So you have a hairstick and hair comb all in one. It looked very elegant too.

Awesome!

Hi Betty
How did you hide the center part in the back???????????

Patty lou

Thanks for the suggestion Patty lou!
When I want to hide the part I make a side part at the back, opposite to the one I already have on the top of my head (if that makes any sense).
Then the braids, when looped, cover the part. HTH! :flower:

That's a really cool article Piffyanne!

SpinDance

September 7th, 2012, 09:42 AM

BEHOLD THE PERIOD-CORRECT HAIRTOYS! http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/excavation-reveals-ancient-hair-fashion.aspx?pageID=238&nID=28106&NewsCatID=375

Interestingly enough, without a size scale, these also look like the bobbins used in bobbin lace.

piffyanne

September 7th, 2012, 03:30 PM

Interestingly enough, without a size scale, these also look like the bobbins used in bobbin lace.

I thought the same thing the first time I saw them . :)

miss_asimov

September 7th, 2012, 03:43 PM

I like experimenting with 50's-ish looks:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9d1ewoibX1qcvejto1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9bx29AR1O1qcvejto1_500.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz104/sweetestpoison_photo/ha.jpg front of the above.

Calaelen

September 8th, 2012, 07:22 PM

I went for a super vintage Spanish style today, and took the opportunity to show off several of my largest combs here it is for your viewing pleasure!

http://photobucket.com/combcandy

bettylibertine

September 8th, 2012, 08:47 PM

Beautiful Calaelen and miss_asimov!

lydiajo

September 8th, 2012, 09:26 PM

Came up with a new style tonight!

It's very similar to the Cleopatra style, but with more braids! :)

I love this but my hair isn't long enough or thick enough. LOL

HylianGirl

September 8th, 2012, 10:06 PM

TeaGarden

September 8th, 2012, 11:42 PM

Hello! I have found this channel on youtube, and I thought I'd shared here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/jntvstp/videos

It shows ancient rome hairtyle tutorials, as well as using the materials that were available at that time period, there are some gorgeous hairstyles there.

I LOVE that channel! It's amazing. I just got finished watching one of her videos when I stumbled upon this thread. I can't wait to get my camera working so I can post my pictures!
In the meantime I'll oogle everyone else.

Alvrodul

September 9th, 2012, 07:53 AM

piffyanne

September 9th, 2012, 08:06 AM

Very elegant styles, miss_asimov!
And :bigeyes: those combs are stunning, Calaelen! Eye candy indeed! :inlove:
HylianGirl, I love that channel! And your link encouraged me to visit it again, and there were new videos posted! :D
(Added a bold at the end)

THERE ARE?? >scurries swiftly off to add to her period-correct hairstyle repertoire<

Alvrodul

September 9th, 2012, 08:25 AM

(Added a bold at the end)

THERE ARE?? >scurries swiftly off to add to her period-correct hairstyle repertoire<
Piffyanne, we are still waiting for pics of your antique pretties! Maybe you could do one of Janet's styles, and add one of the combs to that? :eyebrows: Maybe not "right" for either the hairstyle or the comb, but who cares? ;)

bettylibertine

September 9th, 2012, 02:16 PM

I love this but my hair isn't long enough or thick enough. LOL
Thank you! :D

Hello! I have found this channel on youtube, and I thought I'd shared here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/jntvstp/videos

It shows ancient rome hairtyle tutorials, as well as using the materials that were available at that time period, there are some gorgeous hairstyles there.

Very elegant styles, miss_asimov!
And :bigeyes: those combs are stunning, Calaelen! Eye candy indeed! :inlove:
HylianGirl, I love that channel! And your link encouraged me to visit it again, and there were new videos posted! :D

Yes, Janet Stephens is AWESOME. I was just popping in to say that there was a new video put up!
Here's the direct link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_HPjg-f8iQ&feature=g-u-u) to it if anyone wants it :D :flower:

miss_asimov

September 9th, 2012, 03:21 PM

thanks, guys! and calaelen, those combs are jawdropping!

piffyanne

September 10th, 2012, 01:36 AM

Piffyanne, we are still waiting for pics of your antique pretties! Maybe you could do one of Janet's styles, and add one of the combs to that? Maybe not "right" for either the hairstyle or the comb, but who cares?

We interrupt this program to bring you, by popular demand, and LIVE from Piff Stadium for the FIRST TIME EVER, this breaking-news coverage of Piffyanne's Victorian Haircomb collection, and an added segment on two new ways she's designed the back of her head for the viewing pleasure of others.

Anne brings us behind the scenes into her life with her hairtoys, modeling them, and generally thanking Calaelen and Irish Fae, from whom she bought these combs.

First up, my dashing delicacies of delightful design, some pink, some faux tortoiseshell, all very pretty, can I get a warm LHC welcome for PIFFYANNE'S COOOOOOMBS!!

Section 1.0 : Thanks to Calaelen
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/523597_10151018602222282_1575788143_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/603246_10151018602112282_942660680_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/530013_10151018601897282_2058151171_n.jpg

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/558258_10151018601867282_1508103052_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/381065_10151018602087282_450202768_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/393261_10151018602012282_623414281_n.jpg

Section 2.0 : Annnnnnd, an unexpected development, one I got from Irish_Fae in January or so (it's a little more proportional to the Piffyanne's piffy head than the pink one, but they're all gorgeous!):
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/488257_10151018602157282_643635116_n.jpg
I'm so in love with them all!!

Annd the back of my head for the past two weekends:
Last Week:
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/548073_10151018602307282_1772987041_n.jpg
(Off-coil bun, thanks to Calaelen for the idea!!)

Sunday, (yesterday, since this is written at 1-2:30am):

A Piffyanne Original, the Duo-Off-Coil Coiffure (read, elements of the Off-Coil and the Recamier)

It was a fly-by-the-seat-of-my-piffy-pants hairstyle, but I must say I'm rather pleased with how it came out.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/392507_10151018601812282_388784354_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/392380_10151018602357282_283044942_n.jpg
Instructions: at the back of the head, make a single ponytail, preferably offset to the opposite side of the direction you'll be forming the bun, as it's easier with this style to travel in one direction. Adjust for that NOW, this takes long enough you'll be hissing and spitting if you have to redo the whole thing.

Split the hair emanating from your ponytail into two sections, and begin to twist them, rotating the same direction for both strands. Twist one of the sections AROUND the ponytail holder to hide it, then start twisting until it tightens into a coil and pinning the edge nearest the scalp of it down intermittently to keep the coils where they land. Twist the second strand of hair so the loops fall ABOVE the previous strand's secured loops.

In case that didn't make sense, think of it as an equal sign ( = ), with the strands parallel, if you disregard the loops and swirls they're doing.)

The Optional "Coiffure": Partway through doing the twist-pin-twist-pin-twist-pin of the above paragraph^^. When you start running out of time and panicking because you realize you're already an hour late to leave thanks to one thing and another (or, simply, when you get sick of the whole twist-and-pin thing), take the remainder of the hair from both coils, re-combine it into ONE section again, twist in the same, original direction again, running in a circle around the entire confection as a rolled outline of hair, unifying it, and generally being a WHOLE LOT faster than you were while going coil-by-coil through the whole of your lengthX2.(Imagine an eyeroll here, I'm using up my 10 images another way.)

Finishing off the Style: Tuck in the ends, pin to within an inch of your hair's life. (It was actually pretty secure for me, and I skipped the pinning to death step. I have a hard time keeping the Nautilus in and everyone swears by its holding power, so my hair might be somewhat slippery. It's better to oversecure this style than to have to do it again, use your own judgement on how much extra help you think your hair will need with this. YMMV [flower])

Note: This is not a suitable hairdo for layers unless you find a way to tame the short bits; I've got a microlayer of itty bitty halofuzz that recently decided it wants to grow up and leave Never-neverland to join the other longhairs, and it was sticking out in a very irksome way by the time I got to the reenactment.

Cursed be he who uses these pictures without my permission.

My abject apologies that it took so long to get this to you guys, I was having a huge problem with Photoshop, which I needed to resize these all into something you guys can SEE without a 42-inch-wide monitor.

Forgive my name plastered across myself, I'm not THAT proud of my name, and it unfortunately obscures a rather awesome bun day, but I'm just a little weirded out by finding LHC pictures on random websites, and figured I'd throw an extra step in the way of the Dreaded Hairy Pirates. RARRRRR!

Calaelen

September 10th, 2012, 10:48 AM

Section 1.0 : Thanks to Calaelen

Annd the back of my head for the past two weekends:
Last Week:
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/548073_10151018602307282_1772987041_n.jpg
(Off-coil bun, thanks to Calaelen for the idea!!)

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/392507_10151018601812282_388784354_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/392380_10151018602357282_283044942_n.jpg

I am so glad you're loving your combs, and you very welcome both for them, and the off coil bun idea.

ZOMG! you love vintage hats too??? both hats and outfits are awesome! I love love love vintage hats, and find myself with a rather large collection, which I do wear (public opinion be darned). Now, I think I am going to have to devote myself to getting a few pics of them :eyebrows:

piffyanne

September 10th, 2012, 10:57 AM

I am so glad you're loving your combs, and you very welcome both for them, and the off coil bun idea.

ZOMG! you love vintage hats too??? both hats and outfits are awesome! I love love love vintage hats, and find myself with a rather large collection, which I do wear (public opinion be darned). Now, I think I am going to have to devote myself to getting a few pics of them :eyebrows:
Not that I had much doubt before, but you are now OFFICIALLY AMAZING. You do vintage hats, too, TOOO???

Where have you been all my life? :cheese:

Also, SHARE WITH THE CLASS!! :popcorn:

Alvrodul

September 10th, 2012, 11:13 AM

We interrupt this program to bring you, by popular demand, and LIVE from Piff Stadium for the FIRST TIME EVER, this breaking-news coverage of Piffyanne's Victorian Haircomb collection, and an added segment on two new ways she's designed the back of her head for the viewing pleasure of others.

Anne brings us behind the scenes into her life with her hairtoys, modeling them, and generally thanking Calaelen and Irish Fae, from whom she bought these combs.

First up, my dashing delicacies of delightful design, some pink, some faux tortoiseshell, all very pretty, can I get a warm LHC welcome for PIFFYANNE'S COOOOOOMBS!!

Section 1.0 : Thanks to Calaelen

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/381065_10151018602087282_450202768_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/393261_10151018602012282_623414281_n.jpg

Section 2.0 : Annnnnnd, an unexpected development, one I got from Irish_Fae in January or so (it's a little more proportional to the Piffyanne's piffy head than the pink one, but they're all gorgeous!):

I'm so in love with them all!!

Annd the back of my head for the past two weekends:
Last Week:
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/548073_10151018602307282_1772987041_n.jpg
(Off-coil bun, thanks to Calaelen for the idea!!)

Sunday, (yesterday, since this is written at 1-2:30am):

A Piffyanne Original, the Duo-Off-Coil Coiffure (read, elements of the Off-Coil and the Recamier)

It was a fly-by-the-seat-of-my-piffy-pants hairstyle, but I must say I'm rather pleased with how it came out.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/392507_10151018601812282_388784354_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/392380_10151018602357282_283044942_n.jpg
Instructions: at the back of the head, make a single ponytail, preferably offset to the opposite side of the direction you'll be forming the bun, as it's easier with this style to travel in one direction. Adjust for that NOW, this takes long enough you'll be hissing and spitting if you have to redo the whole thing.

Split the hair emanating from your ponytail into two sections, and begin to twist them, rotating the same direction for both strands. Twist one of the sections AROUND the ponytail holder to hide it, then start twisting until it tightens into a coil and pinning the edge nearest the scalp of it down intermittently to keep the coils where they land. Twist the second strand of hair so the loops fall ABOVE the previous strand's secured loops.

In case that didn't make sense, think of it as an equal sign ( = ), with the strands parallel, if you disregard the loops and swirls they're doing.)

The Optional "Coiffure": Partway through doing the twist-pin-twist-pin-twist-pin of the above paragraph^^. When you start running out of time and panicking because you realize you're already an hour late to leave thanks to one thing and another (or, simply, when you get sick of the whole twist-and-pin thing), take the remainder of the hair from both coils, re-combine it into ONE section again, twist in the same, original direction again, running in a circle around the entire confection as a rolled outline of hair, unifying it, and generally being a WHOLE LOT faster than you were while going coil-by-coil through the whole of your lengthX2.(Imagine an eyeroll here, I'm using up my 10 images another way.)

Finishing off the Style: Tuck in the ends, pin to within an inch of your hair's life. (It was actually pretty secure for me, and I skipped the pinning to death step. I have a hard time keeping the Nautilus in and everyone swears by its holding power, so my hair might be somewhat slippery. It's better to oversecure this style than to have to do it again, use your own judgement on how much extra help you think your hair will need with this. YMMV [flower])

Note: This is not a suitable hairdo for layers unless you find a way to tame the short bits; I've got a microlayer of itty bitty halofuzz that recently decided it wants to grow up and leave Never-neverland to join the other longhairs, and it was sticking out in a very irksome way by the time I got to the reenactment.

Cursed be he who uses these pictures without my permission.

My abject apologies that it took so long to get this to you guys, I was having a huge problem with Photoshop, which I needed to resize these all into something you guys can SEE without a 42-inch-wide monitor.

Forgive my name plastered across myself, I'm not THAT proud of my name, and it unfortunately obscures a rather awesome bun day, but I'm just a little weirded out by finding LHC pictures on random websites, and figured I'd throw an extra step in the way of the Dreaded Hairy Pirates. RARRRRR!
Wonderful! :cheer:
Lovely weather, buns, lovely hairtoys - the low, slinky one - is it a comb? - was my definite favorite here! :crush: And those gorgeous hats and hat styles! :thud:
The off-coil bun is a very elegant style, and definitely one that would be good to wear with one of my antique lovelies. And you explained it very well, too. It is a style that I would definitely like to try, but I an a bit concerned about how it would turn out for me, as the lowest 20 cm or so of my braids are very fuzzy. Hopefully it is possible to hide the ends under the coils. :hmm:

ETA: I can certainly understand not wanting to see your pics pirated. If someone asks, that is one thing - just helping themselves without a by-your-leave is not! :patrol:

MasCat

September 10th, 2012, 12:26 PM

Droool!

Beautiful combs, beautiful updos!

bettylibertine

September 10th, 2012, 10:42 PM

The combs, the hats, the styles - oh my! Absolutely gorgeous piffyanne. Thank you for sharing! :D :flower:

Sarahlabyrinth

September 10th, 2012, 11:21 PM

Thank you for sharing these photos! Lovely hair and of course, clothes as well.

SerinaDaith

September 11th, 2012, 07:17 AM

Lovely all around!

piffyanne

September 14th, 2012, 06:12 PM

You guys like this picture when I shared it a while ago:
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/556591_10150850132257282_1619830109_n.jpg
(Again, this is me with Victory For Longhairs rolls in front, and a pair of English braids pinned up in a maiden/crown braid in the back:)

I know many of you have been able to do Victory Rolls with long hair, but many people have problems getting them to work (I've even seen posts on the LHC saying it wasn't POSSIBLE!), and rolling from the ends of Fingertip/longer hair is just insane. :eyebrows:

I'm capable of doing proper Victory Rolls (rolling all the way in from the ends) at fingertip, but if your fingers feel clumsy, or your hair's not behaving, I've patented a Victory For Longhairs version of the Victory Roll.
I wanted to share how it was done:

Introducing Piffyanne's Original Victory for Longhairs Victory Roll Technique.

Victory rolls ARE achievable at long lengths, as long as you've got a way to combat slipperiness (I don't have very slippery hair, so I've not needed to develop around that. I'll look for a friend with slippery hair I can experiment on.) I've found that on MYSELF the process of backcombing is not REQUIRED (I choose not to, even though it would be more period-correct. LHC beats sheer correctness in Rock-Paper-Scissors right now :shrug: ), as the included length gives the same appearance that short backcombed hair makes. It's NOT as secure, though, and it won't stand away from your head as much, either (for example, the kitty-ears (http://thegirlysideofme.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/nekomimi.jpg?w=490) TeaGarden linked to in this thread (http://www.longhaircommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100087) will need backcombing, probably).

I don't know where you are on the Sliding Scale of Slipperiness: I really recommend trying out whatever hairstyle you decide to do in the end out BEFORE you do your hair for a special event. Wear it around the house to see whether you need more bobbypins to scare it into submission, etc.

I developed this because we CLEARLY don't have hair anywhere near what was known as the middy-cut, which was the most efficient hairlength for Victory Rolls. For this, we sorta use our "extra" lengths as a rat, which WAS period-correct. (We can even use the same "yes, it's all mine" comment, haha!)

Piffyanne's VICTORY FOR LONGHAIRS VICTORY ROLL TECHNIQUE:

Find a round tube that is the size you want the interior of your victory roll to be. Really thick markers, work, you might have a traveling toothbrush holder that's a size you want. Look around.

Select a small section of hair, about a finger in width (adjustments: this measurement makes a medium-size roll for ii/iii hair from waist-fingertip length; if your hair is longer than that, you may want a smaller section, or you'll get voluminous rolls. If your hair is thin, take a wider section of hair at this step, so you can hide the "rat" part of the style.), and brush it out, moisten it, add smoothing product, whatever. It'll be tricky to smooth it later, so do it carefully now. Position the tube 10 inches or so from your scalp, and hold it against the newly-smoothed section of hair. Imagine the spot where the marker is a divide between two halves: the scalp-side and the "excess" (the hair on the opposite side of the hair from your head).

Throughout the rest of the process, you'll want to hold the tube, with your hair clamped to it with your finger so it doesn't slide around, taut. It shouldn't pull painfully, but it can't be loose: you should be able to feel the connection between the tube and your scalp, or oddnesses may occur.

Take the "excess" and start wrapping it around the marker/tube. I find wrapping the excess in an figure-eight pattern is most effective for me, other times my hair just wants to be spiraled in one direction. The figure-eight feels more secure to me. :shrug: Make it your own, experiment, do what feels right.

Once you've reached the tips of your length, wrap the tips even NEARER to where the unwrapped scalp-side. You don't want the tips poking out of the Victory Roll later, so keep an eye on where they're going.

Holding the tips down, you can start rolling the whole thing towards your head now. Turn it so that you are continuing in the same direction you started wrapping, don't "double back" on your hair, or you'll have a silly-looking kink in it when you take it all down again.

Because you started 10 inches from your head, you'll have the same amount of hair wrapped back that a woman with a middy-cut would have. This is your chance to hide the ends and smooth everything else down, 10 inches seems to be just about the right amount of hair on me to be forgiving.

When you reach the scalp, carefully slide the marker out of your rolled hair, and, holding the curl where you want it to be, pin it with bobbypins so it is secure.

I've been meaning to tell LHC about the Victory for Longhair Rolls for a year now, I might end up adding it to the Tutorials section if I can figure it out how, and if enough people think I should.

Note: two bobbypins in an "x" facing in opposite directions are a must. If you want it to stand vertically (which may or may not work, again, try it in advance), you'll want to have the two pins parallel from each other, but entering the curl from opposite directions, or it could all "escape" out the open side.

I've also seen period documents offering a "new" way of pinning down victory rolls using bobby pins: you approach it vertically, holding the open part of the bobbypin pointing down towards your scalp, and put the mouth of the pin around the curl part, one side in and one side out of one side of the curl. Take the pin and make a motion the document referred to as "crochet-motion", the diagrams look sorta like how we put in a hairstick: turn the pin away from the center of the curl, snag it scrap of scalp-hair, and then turn the pin under so that it runs underneath the curl. Do the same on the other side. The article thought two pins was enough, it worked OK on my hair the other day, but again, slipperiness may vary.

HISTORICAL MAKEUP: I got my hands on a 1940's pamphlet from MaxxFactor that teaches the reader how to put on makeup over a year ago. There are a couple tricks that are different "modern" makeup application techniques, or which might be counter-intuitive. You can see how these techniques look by checking out my makeup in all of my 40's hair posts. I won't share it unless you guys want me to, I wouldn't dream of de-railing this darling thread without a go-ahead ;).

Also, I cross-posted this same technique in the "Old Hollywood Glamour" hairstyles thread (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100678). The OP in that thread wants suggestions for 20's-50's-area hairstyles for a ball she's going to. Some of you lovelies may want to check in there, too, and add your two cents!

piffyanne

September 19th, 2012, 12:29 AM

Oooh!:applause I just found a new website (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Edwardian-index.html) with lots of shiny new information, and even MORE images! :D

Edwardian: Pompadour (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Edw-hair.html), Hatpin Hairstyle (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Edw-hair2.html), Side-Swirls (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Swirl-A.html), Low Pompadour (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Frenchroll-A.html), Transitional hairstyle (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Ed-Transit.html), the origin of the word "Flapper" (and it's not what you thought your knew, either) (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Edw-flapper.html).

WWI: Butterfly Hair-Bow (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/WW1-Bow.html), Low Bun Hairstyle (Chignon) (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/B4Bobbed.html), The Great War Look (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/10s-Face.html), Brow band (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Browband.html)

1920's: Bobbed Hair (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/BobbedTrio.html), Orchid Bob (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Orchid-bob.html), Eton Crop (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/20s-Eton.html), Egyptian Bob (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Egypt-bob.html), Coconut Bob (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/coconut-bob.html), Moana Bob (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Moana-bob.html), Charleston Cut (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Charleston-cut.html), The Shingle (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Shingle-A.html) [FYI, the LHC has got a thread about an extant article discussing how to disguise long (by our view, not longer-than-ear-is-long-hair view) hair as the Shingle cut], Windblown or Windswept Bob (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Windswept-bob.html), extreme Windblown or Windswept hairstyle (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Windblown-extreme.html), The Frizzy Hairstyle (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Frizzy.html), Poodle Cut (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Poodlecut.html), Soft Waved Bob (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Soft-Wave.html), Brushedback Bob (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Brushback-bob.html), Kisscurls (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Kisscurl-A.html), Bandeaus (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Bandeau.html) [another one suggested to help disguise length], Earphones (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Earphones.html) [Piffyanne favorite!!], Swaithed Hairstyle (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Brushover.html) [another Longhair style mimicking short hair].

1930's: The Tight Perm (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Perm-A.html), Coxcomb Curls (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Coxcomb-curls.html).

1940's: The 1940s Face (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/40s-Face.html), Wartime Everyday Hairstyles (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Wartime-A.html), Lifted Hairstyle (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Lifted-A.html), Swoops Hairstyle (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Swoops-A.html), Curlers (www.photodetective.co.uk/Curlers.html)

An set of hairstyles on Edwardian men (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/MensHigh-A.html).

Annnnd some Edwardian length-shots (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Glory.html).

It all of THAT isn't enough to spark some ideas, I'll be quite surprised. :flowers:

Kizuna

September 19th, 2012, 02:04 AM

That was a great site piffyanne!
Lots of inspiration! :D

pullanmuru

September 19th, 2012, 05:15 AM

Anyone interested in 1920-50s hairdos and tutorila, there's great book out there: http://www.getgoretro.com/vintage-hairstyling2.jpg

It has step by step pictures on how to create different hairstyles and hairdos and there's in depth tutorial on how to do pin curls properly. It's a great book.

bettylibertine

September 19th, 2012, 06:29 PM

Wow Piffyanne - great instructions and links!
Looks good pullanmuru!

melusine963

September 20th, 2012, 02:34 AM

Oooh!:applause I just found a new website (http://www.photodetective.co.uk/Edwardian-index.html) with lots of shiny new information, and even MORE images!
What a fantastic website! I'm off to waste some time on there now...

piffyanne

September 20th, 2012, 03:22 AM

What a fantastic website! I'm off to waste some time on there now...

I know! If I hadn't been concentrating on trying to get my oil painting done in time for me to snatch a few hours' sleep, I would have spent the whole night on here! Now that my homework's done, I have to fight myself all over again! :silly:

bettylibertine

September 24th, 2012, 01:27 AM

So I was trawling the depths of YT when I came across this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIMcKwg-BaE&feature=g-hist) - not really historical but certainly princess-ey! Thought I would share it anywho.

I tried it, but my hair is too long and looked silly when I tucked/folded the braids back. So I was messing around and came up with this:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n199/cherryflavouredtrash/SDC19752_zps431386d2.jpg

Again, not exactly historical but I thought it was quite pretty (please excuse the ends poking out). :D

piffyanne

September 24th, 2012, 04:18 AM

That is GORGEOUS, Bettylibertine! I love the way the light reflecting off your hair adds those gorgeous warm tones. Your hair's so beautifully shiny!

Also, WHAT ends poking out? :gabigrin: I didn't see them 'till you mentioned them.

I just did the makeup tutorial I was threatening. It's not hair, but it's historical (http://www.longhaircommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101128).

Further updates as events warrant. :silly:

bettylibertine

September 24th, 2012, 04:34 PM

Thanks piffyanne!

Just checked out that thread, totally fabulous!

piffyanne

September 24th, 2012, 06:53 PM

Thanks piffyanne!

Just checked out that thread, totally fabulous!
:blossom: You are too kind!

Alvrodul

September 26th, 2012, 08:55 AM

piffyanne

September 26th, 2012, 09:59 AM

This is my hair today. I let myself be inspired by this vid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_HPjg-f8iQ), and did lace braids on the sides of my head like it is done in the first styin little poufs along the sides of my head - a quite interesting effect. :D The back is just a braided bun with the little braids from the sides looped around.

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/Alvrodul/Updos%202012/Faustina-lacebraidsandbun.jpg
My first reaction was "look! It's the back of Alvrodul's head!:eye:" Then I thought, "And she did another pretty style! :crush:"

But then I was like, "But where are the lovely vintage combs? :wail:"

I expect another update tomorrow! /Demand :gabigrin:

Alvrodul

September 26th, 2012, 04:36 PM

Hey, Piffyanne, a comb isn't _required_ for a historical style.
I do happen to be waiting for one, though. Stay tuned for pics! :D

piffyanne

September 26th, 2012, 06:11 PM

Hey, Piffyanne, a comb isn't _required_ for a historical style.
I do happen to be waiting for one, though. Stay tuned for pics! :D
No, but it's like icing on the cake.

And I happen to know your icing is AWESOME, so why not ask for it on your next cake.:gabigrin:

bettylibertine

September 26th, 2012, 07:28 PM

Wow that's beautiful Alvrodul!

Alvrodul

September 28th, 2012, 08:22 AM

piffyanne

September 28th, 2012, 11:27 AM

OOkay, Piffy - here is a style with an antique comb This one arrived today, so the picture is very fresh. ;)
I'm sure you have seen a picture of this comb before, but not one of it in my hair! The style is just a plain braided bun.

And thank you for the chocolate, Dajanchen! :D
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/Alvrodul/Hairtoys%202012/Combwithsilverdecoration.jpg
Yay! Christmas came early this year! :cheese:

I saw you'd updated this and the Vintage Comb thread and couldn't click in here fast enough!! ;):eyebrows::joy:

I LOOOOOVE this comb. Are you having reproductions made? SIGN ME UP!

bettylibertine

October 17th, 2012, 12:04 AM

piffyanne

October 17th, 2012, 01:04 AM

Beautiful Alvrodul!

LHC keeps going down so I thought I'd get this one in quick in case it goes down again :D

Regency inspired hair style:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/149611_4069724694849_1448987026_n.jpg

Hope it works!
:crush:What a stunner, and the curls at the nape of your neck! :thudpile:

I WAS going to add more, but the computer I save photos from my camera on before deleting them from my camera just up and died. :rolleyes:

It'll take a while to get it fixed. :justy:

Soooooo I guess that means I'll have to do some NEW ones now! :joy::gabigrin:

mimi1153

October 17th, 2012, 08:18 PM

I checked out this blog; thanks!!! I love some of her styles.

melusine963

October 18th, 2012, 01:01 AM

Regency inspired hair style:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/149611_4069724694849_1448987026_n.jpg

This is a beautiful style. How did you make it? I'd love to try it. :flower:

bettylibertine

October 23rd, 2012, 11:19 PM

Thanks guys!

I had curled my hair with straws the previous night, hence the curls at the nape of the neck!
The style itself is suuuuper easy. I just made a high ponytail, leaving two sections out at the front of my face. Then I braided the ponytail and bunned it. I then took each section at the front and lightly twisted them backwards, pinning them at the back of the bun, leaving the curls to hang down.
Because of my length, I had to loop the hair back and forth beneath the bun a few times to get the length of curl I wanted.

HTH! :D

galwayshawl2003

October 29th, 2012, 02:07 PM

I use the hair taping method every weekend of the summer at the renaissance faire where I work. I'm currently attempting to teach myself to do the Gibson Girl look for the steampunk events that I attend. One of my favourites is the cameo look (low bun wrapped with a braid). It's easy and looks pretty.

bettylibertine

November 16th, 2012, 03:28 AM

Sounds lovely galwayshawl! Hair taping is awesome, and I'm a big fan of the Gibson Girl look :D
For some reason it's never occurred to me to do a low cameo bun.. I'll give it a go!
Would love to see pics!

On a side note.. I'm so glad LHC seems to be back. And it's super flash! :D

bettylibertine

November 16th, 2012, 03:28 AM

Double post

piffyanne

November 24th, 2012, 03:43 AM

I've been wandering the Wild Worlds of Google over the Great Break of 2012, and come up with some fabulous stuff. (Calaelen's been in touch with me over the break, she knew I was working on this!)

I've been really busy with school stuff, sorry I haven't done anything exciting with my own head, but research is research and will pay off in coolness later, right? :)

I SHALL get back to work, though. I found an extant article (in German, thank god for translation machines) explaining how to construct this hairstyle: http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/27990_10151098726222282_1989004546_n.jpg (it was referred to as the Apollo's Knot, and was very popular in the 1820's.)

It involves HUGE quantities of teasing, I'm trying to figure out my way around that. If I can't, my I have permission to tease for the first time ever, if I promise it will be undertaken with proper cringing and apologies to my mane, and removed with HUUUUGE slatherings of conditioner?

I'll still feel guilty, but my hair has been demanding that I try this style for some time now. :shrug:

Also, TorrinPaige, JJJLonghair, SquiggyFlop and I have been examining this hairstyle: http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/531017_10151098725317282_781544013_n.jpg
I thought it was very close to the way you, bettylibertine, had done a TorrinPaige style http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n199/cherryflavouredtrash/Victoriando.jpg

I'm hoping JJJlonghair will check in and show us what she accomplished, it's very pretty and close to the original image.

I'm currently trying to find pictures of extant chopsticks from the 1920's. There was another micro-burst of Orient Craze going on at the time, and I have recently been finding references to how popular chopsticks/hairsticks were in women's hair at the time, as a "Look, The Chinese and Japanese Do This, Right?" kind of thing.

This forum about the Geisha culture spends a thread trying to trace the roots of the idea of crossed chopsticks in hair being an inherently Japanese/Chinese thing, and although I don't think they got to the root of it, the process of discovery was interesting to follow. http://www.immortalgeisha.com/ig_bb/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=9341

It's all very interesting.

I've spent the time mainly researching Victorian and Edwardian hairstyles, but about a week of solid attempts at research over longhair on 1920's women didn't bring up very much. You would be AMAZED how many sites there are titled something like "hairstyles for long hair in the 1920's" that say "there were many women who hadn't cut their hair into a bob in the 1920's, since bobs were very risque. Did you know women cut their hair into bobs? Seriously. It totally happened. Let me tell you what a bob is, in case you don't know the English language," etc. ad nausea.

After gleaning that^ about a million times, I've discovered (seriously about 20 pages in on Google) that (according to this one person) cutting your hair in a bob was tantamount to publicly proclaiming you were no longer a virgin (le gasp). I've also found that many, many women kept their hair long. I previously (not perviously, don't you love typos?) knew that many women saved their hair to disguise bobs for formal occasions. For example, did you know you were not allowed to wear your hair cropped in a bob when being presented to the Queen of England? Women often would affix one end of the loose hair to a bandeau worn around the head, draw it back sleekly to cover the ends of the hair at the nape of the neck, and bring the other end up to tuck into the bandeau above the ear on the other side of the head? Trufax.

I've learned that low chignons were possible to fit under cloche caps. I've learned all sorts of stuff, but not what women with long hair WERE doing with it. DBF says that the lack of information may be the sign I'm looking for, but I find it hard to believe that there was NO new hairstyle produced by those clever people the fashion magazines for those lagging ladies not on the "cutting" edge of fashion.

I found an extant document from the 1930's showing how to disguise long hair as a close-cropped-looking updo (I've got a playdate scheduled to have it performed on my head, you shall all see the fruits, fear not), and a comment from a few people that some girls made their hair look short, but no dice other than that so far.

I'll keep you guys informed. Sorry this was so long, I hope some of it was useful, and if ANY OF YOU have further information, PLEASE share it!!

I also hope this becomes more useful to other LongHairs searching Google than my 15+ pages' worth of near-fruitless searching and ever-increasing annoyance was to me. :sigh:

About the virginity thing, it WAS serious business cutting your hair like this. Women in the Victorian period were considered fast if they cut their front hair short to make darling, curly bangs; and in the 20's, women were even DIVORCED (which was a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE stigma then, my grandmother's parents were divorced [her father abused her mother] and she STILL doesn't talk about her family NOW. BIG STIGMA. BIG.) after cutting their hair. Really. It happened.

Also, it [I]was common to get bobs, don't get me wrong. Men got really miffed over having to wait for the barber; there are pictures of 20+ women "invading" barber shops to get the haircuts (many salons didn't offer the shocking service, and barbers apparently were not as anti-it), women sitting on the floors waiting to be served because everywhere else is full. All very interesting, but again I tend to go after the less-covered stuff, and bobs, shingles, Eton Crops, etc. have been Thoroughly Hashed Over, TYVM.

bettylibertine

November 24th, 2012, 05:28 PM

Wow Piffyanne! The first picture is awesome, and I absolutely love the second! I'm looking forward to see how you all figure them out :D
Good luck with the trying to avoid teasing, and if you end up having to.. well it's only once right? :p Would really tight rag curls help do the job?
I agree with the possible construction of the second (and it's fine to use my picture!) - perhaps torrin's style as a base?

Super interesting about the hair cutting thing in the 20s, and bummer about the lack of long haired styles.
Looking forward to seeing pictures for the 30s style!

Thank you piffyanne, as always, for writing out such a detailed and interesting post! :flower:

piffyanne

November 25th, 2012, 05:21 AM

We still need business cards. I was just vaguely creepy the other day, I didn't have any paper with me so I wrote http://www.longhaircommunity.com/ on a straw wrapper and handed it to someone with a compliment and an assurance it's a really nice forum. She looked at me like I'd sprouted another head rather than over half my body's height in hair. Oh well. -shrug-

Ambystoma asked me to talk about how I did the Veronica Lake Peekaboo in a different thread, and, frankly, having spent all night typing up a reply I'm putting it here too.

Alright. For those of you who haven't read the whole thread or need a refresher, Ambystoma is referring to a 1940's hairstyle which was made VERY popular by Veronica Lake, an actress referred to by her costars as "The Bitch." [Fun fact: one of her costar male leads was once asked to star in a second movie with her and replied that life was too short to be in two movies with Veronica Lake. Also, I hope I am allowed to use that word on here? O_O If not I'll GLADLY remove it] On the other hand, she was beautiful, and had good hair (http://www.zap2it.com/celebrities/zap_famous_hair_veronicalake_pg,0,6522079.photo) <<clicky. Her signature peekaboo hairstyle was SOO popular during WWII that the American Government asked her change it "to help the war effort" because women were having problems in factories. Apparently they didn't get the memo you don't want your hair dangling around when you're working with machinery. shudder: That, and depth perception is impaired when one of your eyes is covered by hair. :nod:

Ok, now that we've been through the mini-history lesson, let's get the look:
Step zero: do this style at least once before you wear it to a big event, you need to learn how long your hair needs to dry. Find a really cute scarf, and practice tying it as did all those women in the forties to hide all their hilarious-looking bundles of stuff making their hair dry nicely (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOEbzvFlFW0) [NOTE: she opens bobby pins with her teeth in this video. Don't do that part, you really can hurt your teeth doing that!! :couch: ]. This'll take a while to dry, and our goal is to look ADORABLE while we all wait.)
Step one: DAMPEN OR WET your hair and then follow the steps in this tutorial (www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya4DetxwInA) <<clicky
You should look about as silly as I do in this picture (this was neater before I slept on it.) : http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/399349_10151109941557282_2010391147_n.jpg
Step two: divide your hair into eight (I did eight because I happen to own The Hair That Never Dries. I figured the more I separated it, the better chance I had of it not being damp two days later when I needed this style.) or more or fewer sections. If you have thick hair, more sections. If you have thin hair, two or three sections will be ample. Basically, you want your hair to be able to dry in a convenient amount of time, so do what you think will work best for your hair.
Step three: gather the same number of socks you have sections in your hair. Socks. Clean socks. You'll probably thank yourself if you use mis-matched ones you don't really care about, the socks I use for this process don't look quite the same when I'm done with them. Since I have hair-specific socks for this, I haven't had a reason to wash them yet, so I can't tell you whether they spring back when you wash them. Better safe than sorry. You probably want LARGE socks for this if you've got lots of hair, I bought socks that would probably fit my dad's feet, and my hair is rapidly outgrowing them. I'll have to make something up soon.
Step four: Take the first section of hair WHICH NEEDS TO BE DAMP OR WET, re-moisten if you need to, fold your first sock in half, and, holding the crook of the sock as near to where the hank of hair attaches to the scalp as possible, start wrapping the tail of the hair around the two halves of the sock in a figure-eight pattern. Once you've wrapped all the way to the tips of your hair, tie a rubber band around the ends of the socks to keep it all from unraveling. Don't use hairties, I've broken MANY rubber bands doing this, you don't want to break your favorite hairties. You may want to wrap a piece of cloth around the outside of the whole sock+hair confection if you're going to sleep like this so it doesn't get mussed.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/156736_10151109938092282_1302850899_n.jpg (note: ignore the top of my head, your hair will look different, those clips are for finger waves, not the peekaboo, but they were disappointingly weak. Don't bother with Goody banana clips for finger waves.) This picture shows what completed hair-wrapped socks will look like. When removed, you'll have lovely, deep waves in your hair. [I]Until you remove them, you'll look like a demented harridan. :silly: Once you're done you'll be glad you did it.
Step five: Don't take your hair down until you're sure it's dry, or this will NOT stay. Seriously. You can press hard with your fingers and see if your hair feels moist. It's sorta hard to tell with the socks, since they soak up the moisture and then retain it in a weird way. You gotta learn this by doing it.
Step six: Carefully take the sock-waves out first. Unwrap the opposite way you wrapped it, gently, so you don't muss them.
Step seven: pose, call people in to see you, celebrate, because you look really cool right now.
Step eight: Carefully take out the pincurls on top of your head you did with the youtube tutorial. Take more pictures, because your hair looks really pretty.
Step nine: brush it all out with a hairbrush. It will turn it all into smooth waves rather than defined curls. Hold the brush with the back of the brush pointing TOWARDS the direction you're going, with the tines from the side of the brush nearest your hair dragging the hairs together. I made a diagram, this was way too hard to explain.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/270136_10151109984567282_170188835_n.jpg
(the cream block represents the bristles, the grey is the back of the brush. Can you understand this? I can try explaining if you need me to. I just found this in an article from the forties, I'll have to find the link for you all, it was soo coool!)

My attempt at the Peekaboo looked like this:
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/68477_10151109937197282_1973804626_n.jpg - after removing hair from socks
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/485136_10151109937142282_133563_n.jpg - after taking hair out of rolls
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/600132_10151109944472282_1334921780_n.jpg - after brushing it all out (I didn't brush this way, I only found a historical document discussing brushing technique about a week ago.)

Purty, right? :gabrigrin:

Now comes the part you will do differently, because you are far wiser than someone with a piffy brain like mine: hairspray, gel, mousse, setting lotion, something. I relied on the wetset to hold it, and didn't reckon with my hair being at least TWICE as heavy as the woman in the tutorial, or Veronica herself. The peekaboo part didn't stay for very long. I had lovely deep waves for days, though.

Here is my hair about 6 hours later:
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/302770_10151109873262282_1643148449_n.jpg It's parted on the opposite side because all of those ^ were taken in the mirror.

(By the way, the blue dress with red and white detailing was probably worn by a worker in the USO during WWII. It's DEFINITELY from the 40's. I LOVE THIS DRESS.)