Pantene Beautiful Lengths

[Darkhorse1]

ktani--I'm not trying to diss catnip, but if you stop using it, I'm sure split ends would re-appear. From the research I've found online, the only proven method of strengthening hair is coconut oil---apparently it's been scientifically proven to be absorbed through the hair shaft.

I'd love to try the catnip rinse, but I don't want any discoloration to my hair and I'm too finicky to risk it. However, like anything, I had this great conditioning spray that kept my hair split end free...and then it was discontinued. Within a week of not using it, split ends reappeared. Meaning, it lays the splits down.

That's not a bad thing, because it prevents breakage further up the hair, but it's been shown that the only way to remove split ends is to cut them. That is if you already have split ends. I'm sure any treatment done can reduce further splits/splits further up the shaft.

[ktani]

ktani--I'm not trying to diss catnip, but if you stop using it, I'm sure split ends would re-appear. From the research I've found online, the only proven method of strengthening hair is coconut oil---apparently it's been scientifically proven to be absorbed through the hair shaft.

I'd love to try the catnip rinse, but I don't want any discoloration to my hair and I'm too finicky to risk it. However, like anything, I had this great conditioning spray that kept my hair split end free...and then it was discontinued. Within a week of not using it, split ends reappeared. Meaning, it lays the splits down.

That's not a bad thing, because it prevents breakage further up the hair, but it's been shown that the only way to remove split ends is to cut them. That is if you already have split ends. I'm sure any treatment done can reduce further splits/splits further up the shaft.

Darkhorse1

I understand what you are saying. But catnip does not just lay split ends down and act as a cosmetic coating.

Cococnut oil is one of the only oils proven to be absorbed into hair and has been shown to help prevent protein loss. I am not arguing that.

It may be the only oil - there is some dispute about one or two others.

But I have not seen any reports of coconut oil reducing or preventing split ends with use here on the boards. That has not been mentioned that I know of or that I have read. I may have missed such reports. If I have, I apologize in advance.

I do not know how exactly catnip works to do all it does for hair. I do know what it does not do - act as an ahesive, which is a misinterpretation of what those cosmetic coatings actually do. They smooth the hair out so split ends are less visable and help prevent moisture loss. I was still able to find split ends, when I used such products a long time ago. I s& d pretty thoroughly. I have no split ends now. The only way I know of to "fix" a split end, is to cut it off.

I know that for me, catnip has prevented split ends and it has for others, according to the reports.

There is some oil in it but it is more than that. I do not find it that oily. My scalp is a lot less oily than it used to be, and with catnip I can go longer between washing my hair than I used to be able to do.

I find that catnip washes out very easily, but not all of the stain is removed each time. The stain is a dye but it is temporary.

My hair has more elasticity and grows better. And when I have over washed my hair or not used enough catnip, split ends do not suddenly appear. There are none.

I was not looking for this particular result with split ends. It just happened. I am very happy about it and shared the information.

Good luck with the coconut oil.

[burns_erin]

Interesting stuff people are bringing up. I am not curious for myself, i use more organic sulfate free products, but DH uses cones, he needs them. He currently uses the intense moisture by dove (which works well for him but was abysmal for me), so maybe I will get this for Dh when he finishes those bottles. He needs cones but I have a hard time getting him to clarify.

[ktani]

Interesting stuff people are bringing up. I am not curious for myself, i use more organic sulfate free products, but DH uses cones, he needs them. He currently uses the intense moisture by dove (which works well for him but was abysmal for me), so maybe I will get this for Dh when he finishes those bottles. He needs cones but I have a hard time getting him to clarify.

burns_erin

Check out the Dove labels. The newer silicones and amodimethicone are not restricted to one brand. Unilever makes Dove and Suave, as well as Sunsilk, so you may find that your DH does not need to switch products.

Unilever and P&G, which makes Pantene, compete pretty heavily.

Here are the shampoo ingredients for Dove Intense Moisture.
"Water (Aqua), Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Disodium Lauryl Sulfosuccinate, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Ammonium Chloride, Glycol Distearate, Glycerin, Fragrance (Parfum), Dimethiconol, Cocamide MEA, PEG 5 Cocamide, Carbomer, Amodimethicone, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, TEA Dodecylbenzenesulfonate, Tetrasodium EDTA, DMDM Hydantoin, C11 15 Pareth 7, Laureth 9, Ammonium Xylenesulfonate, PEG 45M, Trideceth 12, PPG 9, Lysine Hydrochloride, Silk Amino Acid (Alanine, Glycine, Serine, Arginine, Isoleucine, Cystine, Histidine, Glutamic Acid), Borage Extract (Palmitic Acid (Borago Officinalis), Stearic Acid, Linoleic Acid, Oleic Acid, Eicosenoic Acid), Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, Ext Violet 2 (CI 60730)"
http://www.drugstore.com/products/pr...80&catid=10341

There is dimthiconal, a silicone, in my Sunsilk shampoo and it does not build-up for me.



Dove Intense Moisture Conditioner ingredients.
"Water, Cetearyl Alcohol, Glycerin, Cetrimonium Chloride, Fragrance, Dimethiconal, Quaternium-18, Potassium Chloride, Disodium EDTA, Propylene Glycol, DMDM Hydantoin, TEA-Dodecylbenzenesulfonate, Lysine Hydrochloride, Silk Amino Acids (Alanine, Glycine, Serine, Arginine, Isoleucine, Cystine, Histidine, Glutamic Acid), Borage Extract (Palmitic Acid, Stearic Acid, Linoleic Acid, Oleic Acid, Eicosenoic Acid), Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone "
http://www.epinions.com/review/Dove_...t_239860027012



These is also a 2 in 1 version.
"Water, Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate, Ammonium Laureth Sulfate, Glycol Distearate, Dimethiconol, Cocamide MEA, Glycerin, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Fragrance, PEG 5 Cocamide, Carbomer, Amodimethicone, Ammonium Chloride, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, TEA Dodecylbenzenesulfonate, Tetrasodium EDTA, DMDM Hydantoin, C11 15 Pareth 7, C12 16 Alcohols, Ammonium Xylenesulfonate, PEG 45M, Tricontanyl PVP, PPG 9, Lysine Hydrochloride, Silk Amino Acid (Alanine, Glycine, Serine, Arginine, Isoleucine, Cystine, Histidine, Glutamic Acid), Borage Extract (Palmitic Acid, Stearic Acid, Linoleic Acid, Oleic Acid, Eicosenoic Acid), Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, Ext D&C Violet 2 (CI 60730)"
http://www.drugstore.com/products/pr...82&catid=10351

[ktani]

Pantene Beautiful Lengths Shampoo ingredients
"Water, Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate, Ammonium Laureth Sulfate, Sodium Chloride, Cocamide MEA, Glycol Distearate, Dimethicone, Ammonium Xylenesulfonate, Fragrance, Panthenol, Panthenyl Ethyl Ether, Cetyl Alcohol, Polyquaternium 10, Disodium EDTA, PEG 7M, Sodium Citrate, Sodium Benzoate, Citric Acid, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone"
http://www.drugstore.com/products/pr...80&catid=10341


The 2 in 1 version.
"Water, Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate, Ammonium Laureth Sulfate, Cocamide MEA, Glycol Distearate, Dimethicone, Ammonium Xylenesulfonate, Sodium Chloride, Fragrance, Panthenol, Panthenyl Ethyl Ether, Cetyl Alcohol, Polyquaternium 10, Disodium EDTA, PEG 7M, Sodium Citrate, Sodium Benzoate, Citric Acid, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone"
http://www.drugstore.com/products/pr...82&catid=10351


The conditioner - again.
"Water, Stearyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Chloride, Cetyl Alcohol, BIS Aminopropyl Dimethicone, Panthenol, Panthenyl Ethyl Ether, Fragrance, Disodium EDTA, Benzyl Alcohol, Sodium Hydroxide, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone"
http://www.drugstore.com/products/pr...79&catid=10329

[Darkhorse1]

ktani---I've done an extensive search, and nowhere can I find that catnip has been scientifically proven to reverse split ends. The bottom line is, when something is split, that's it. Hair is dead. If wood has a crack in it, the only way to remove it is to sand it down. I just don't want people to think if they have loads of split ends, catnip will 'fix' them. That's mis-information. When hair is split, it's split. It needs to be cut. Catnip can probably make hair healthy to prevent hair from splitting, but if you already have split ends, it won't 'fix' them. No product can.


http://hair-care.suite101.com/article.cfm/split_ends

On a good note---I have found studies that say catnip is a much healthier alternative to hair dyes/coloring.

[ktani]

ktani---I've done an extensive search, and nowhere can I find that catnip has been scientifically proven to reverse split ends. The bottom line is, when something is split, that's it. Hair is dead. If wood has a crack in it, the only way to remove it is to sand it down. I just don't want people to think if they have loads of split ends, catnip will 'fix' them. That's mis-information. When hair is split, it's split. It needs to be cut. Catnip can probably make hair healthy to prevent hair from splitting, but if you already have split ends, it won't 'fix' them. No product can.


http://hair-care.suite101.com/article.cfm/split_ends

On a good note---I have found studies that say catnip is a much healthier alternative to hair dyes/coloring.

Darkhorse1

I have never claimed that there is any scientific evidence to my results. I just posted what I found to work for me.

Others have done the same.

I do no care how catnip works, to be honest - it does prevent split ends for me and that is the bottom line.

And it is not toxic or harmful.

You are free to use what you please.

End of hijack.

[Darkhorse1]

ktani--most definetly!! My theory about hair is that you use what works for you.

I'll let everyone know how the oil goes, and I do plan to try Pantene here.

[ktani]

ktani--most definetly!! My theory about hair is that you use what works for you.

I'll let everyone know how the oil goes, and I do plan to try Pantene here.

The only exceptions I make with anything is toxicity and safety. There are some precautions regarding catnip as with most things.

I never knowingly recommend anything harmful. Many herbs are not recommended during pregnancy. I research very thoroughly but I can still miss things.

Updated Health Canada monograph

"Caution(s) and warning(s):

Consult .... health care practitioner if symptoms persist or worsen.
Consult .... health care practitioner prior to use if you are breastfeeding.
Contraindication(s): Do not use if you are pregnant ....
Known adverse reaction(s): No statement required."
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/prodn...ataire-eng.php

"Catnip .... very safe for cats .... no need for any concern on the part of owners regarding its safety. Despite .... widespread use, very little .... known about catnip and how it works."
http://www.animalhealthcare.ca/conte...&category=Cats


burns_erin

My apologies for the extended hijack.

[ktani]

ktani---
On a good note---I have found studies that say catnip is a much healthier alternative to hair dyes/coloring.

I would be very interested to see these studies. Are they on catnip dye specifically? Did you keep the links?

Please pm them to me or post them in the catnip thread to share with others, which I will do if you pm, giving you credit for finding them.

They really do not belong here.