growing the underlayer?

**Katze** · November 21st, 2011, 01:07 AM

Anyone else have a coarser textured underlayer (on me, nape and some behind the ears) to their hair, and have trouble getting it long? Mine is the longest it has ever been since I first realized what it is (that my hair has radically different textures, I mean) - it's between chin and shoulder unstretched, longer if stretched.

Whenever I put leave-in into my hair I focus on this coarser, curlier under-hair, and I think that is responsible for helping it grow (as is no longer constantly wearing a silver chain around my neck - these hairs kept getting caught).

Still, these hairs always seem dry, the ends get white dots very easily, and they are just...odd...especially considering the hair on my crown is baby fine, seethrough, lighter in color, and straight. Maybe these hairs affect my overall terminal length (they do make my taper more severe; at the left side, where they are much curlier, there is even a 'hole' in my canopy).

Anyone else get these to grow? What did you do?

(still hoping that with LHC knowledge and help my hair might actually get long some day! Hope springs eternal!

)

**AnimaSola3o4** · November 21st, 2011, 01:17 AM

You are preachin to the choir here! Those hairs are the reason I kept having the shaved under layer on my head. I have now just been letting them grow, but they actually do the fairy knots all the time, and when I find one, I just yank the whole hair out cuz I'm not too fond of these hairs behind my ears anyway!!!

Mine grow, but noticeably slower than the rest of my hair. I haven't paid much attention to the weird hair in a long time though.

**dawnrader** · November 21st, 2011, 02:07 AM

I have hair like this and i blame shaving the back of my head continually when i was younger (read 17-19). The hairs that grew back are twice as curly as the rest of my hair and also do the fairy not number, it's something i've had to get used to over the years but i can't say i like it!

I've never noticed them growing any slower than the rest of my hair but i have so much of it, it is possible. Also remember if your hair is extra curly it will seem shorter than the rest.

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**Mesmerise** · November 21st, 2011, 03:37 AM

Oh yeah, I have a weird underlayer too! It is definitely curlier than on top, and is ALSO curlier on the left side than the right!

I have also had a hairdresser suggest the underlayer was getting broken because it was shorter than the canopy...but nope...I think it just doesn't grow as much or as fast

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I am just hoping that, with time, the underlayer will GROW!

Katze, I think you and I are almost hair twins except for the colour

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**Altocumulus** · November 21st, 2011, 05:14 AM

My nape hair is straight, and doesn't grow as long as the rest of my hair. It's always been that way - I think it just has a shorter terminal length.

**Sahar24** · November 21st, 2011, 05:59 AM

I have this too and it really annoys me. I always thought it was partly because I wear my hair in a high bun usually so the nape gets a bit of damage at night and partly because it's just different hair.

**Katze** · November 21st, 2011, 06:50 AM

I honestly think it's genetic, at least in my case. Dad has wavier, coarser but with some fine, darker hair. Mom is lighter and has baby fine, mostly straight hair.

In my case, shaving, buns, etc are not the culprits, though I did blame my necklaces for the breakage for a while. I shaved my nape for a few years, but always let it grow out between shaves, and the hair started getting that way in puberty, around the time my hair went dark. It always reminded me of 'other' body hair.

Curious and glad to see there are others with weird underlayers.

DH, interestingly, has a similar hair type as mine (but longer hair, grrrr) and his hair has a STRAIGHT underlayer, that at least LOOKS longer than his curlier canopy. His hair is only coarser at his sideburns, though.

some weird stuff, this kind of hair.

**blondecat** · November 21st, 2011, 07:38 AM

ughhh my nape hair knotts curls splits hairballs furballs Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh (runs away screaming)

I twist little peices of it into small coils and bobby pin under the top hair. it helps a little.

Slathering condish leave in on it helps too [not the whole hair the nape im talking about]

**ktani** · November 21st, 2011, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Katze

Anyone else have a coarser textured underlayer (on me, nape and some behind the ears) to their hair, and have trouble getting it long? Mine is the longest it has ever been since I first realized what it is (that my hair has radically different textures, I mean) - it's between chin and shoulder unstretched, longer if stretched.

Whenever I put leave-in into my hair I focus on this coarser, curlier under-hair, and I think that is responsible for helping it grow (as is no longer constantly wearing a silver chain around my neck - these hairs kept getting caught).

Still, these hairs always seem dry, the ends get white dots very easily, and they are just...odd...especially considering the hair on my crown is baby fine, seethrough, lighter in color, and straight. Maybe these hairs affect my overall terminal length (they do make my taper more severe; at the left side, where they are much curlier, there is even a 'hole' in my canopy).

Anyone else get these to grow? What did you do?

(still hoping that with LHC knowledge and help my hair might actually get long some day! Hope springs eternal!

)

My nape hair is silkier than the rest of my hair by virtue of it being finer in general than the rest of my hair and it being proteced by my length in terms of not getting any weathering (I wear my hair down most of the time).

I had the exact same problem as you on one side of my hair where the nape hair was appearing to not grow, which was actually breakage and the hair was almost curly not wavy.

It was for me caused by the linden flower tea I used as a conditioner, the way I use catnip now. The tea caused build-up and breakage, that I could plainly see as white dots, whenever I did an s&d.

By concentrating your leave-in which builds-up, on those hairs, the build-up is contributing to the very problem you are trying to solve, that may have been mostly caused by the chain you wore.

I had similar breakage, not nearly as bad with some conditioners.

Remedy? I would go lighter in product than the one you are currently using and clarify frequently enough not to have the area get dry from residue.

**LocustSpawning** · November 21st, 2011, 09:25 AM

The hair right at my nape looks bad aswell. I don't really care though, nobody really see's it and it's only a small amount of hair compared to all the rest on your head that contributes to length. I don't mind that it's short and not a very nice texture compared to the rest, as long as the rest is nice ^_^