Thanks for all the help!
These kinds of reported honey lightening results are not limited to the starting hair colour and not rare, based on reports. Conventional peroxide has been reported to be impeded in dying and lightening hair, by a number of coatings that can be on the hair. That is why it is recommended that hair not be heavily conditioned with conventional conditioners for example, before conventional dye and lightening products are used.
kokuryu - on virgin, mid-blonde hair - using only tap water and honey, unmeasured - after 2 treatments,
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1765, picture, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1767, no damage reported, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1801
bizarrogirl - on henndigoed hair (2 henndigo treatments) (baq henna) and then on multiple henna layers - after 2 treatments in total - with ground cinnamon
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...&postcount=586
ljkforu - on previously black dyed ends, hennaed hair, with tap water, ground cinnamon and ground cardamom, and the condition of her hair. http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=3335
more information on her honey lightening recipe,
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=3270
- feedback from those around her, in real life,
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=3282
Sun-In directions, http://www.drugstore.com/products/pr...param=sespider
"Sun-In is recommended for blonde to medium-brown hair
Reddish results may occur in dark brown hair
Not recommended for color treated hair
Results may vary."
Reddish results are very natural in lightening darker shades of hair with red undertones. Hair naturally lightens from black to brown to red (depending on tone variations) and the tone base in conventional dyes, to gold to blonde. Not recommending Sun-In for colour-treated hair makes sense because of the possibility of unexpected results due to some kinds of hair colour.
From the Sun-In website, http://www.sun-in.com/original.asp
"Sun-In ... lighteners brighten blonde to medium brown hair"
This makes perfect sense. Red tones can be unexpected, not desired and not considered brightening darker shades of hair colour. The peroxide is still lightening the hair colour when that occurs. Medium brown hair may lighten more to gold than red. However, that is covered under "Results may vary" in the "Directions". The company has covered itself very well in terms of liability, regarding possible hair colour changes.
Last edited by ktani; October 8th, 2010 at 04:43 AM. Reason: punctuation
Thanks for all the help!
I think cinnamon has better results. This thread might help =) http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...light=cinammon
I know there's a before and after picture there.
You should be careful though, cinnamon can be irritant on the skin.
Cinnamon has not been reported to be as effective or lighten hair as quickly as honey lightening can and has been reported to do, used on its own or with conditioner. It can be a powerful irritant if too much is used. The OP of the thread you may be referring to had results that took months to achieve and a lot of cinnamon was used in her mix, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...ead.php?t=2125. There are no pictures of her results.
2 tablespoons maximum is recommended for the amount of ground cinnamon used in a honey lightening treatment. While more has been used, difficulties with sensitivity and red, painful skin were reported with large amounts. The amount used by the OP of that thread, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...9&postcount=70.
Last edited by ktani; October 7th, 2010 at 03:44 PM. Reason: added link and text
My hair got noticeably lighter with repeated honeys. My family said they could tell after the first couple of treatments.
However, I stopped because I found it gave a very uneven kind of lightening, even though I was distributing it evenly.
It is not uncommon for hair to have different shades of colour throughout, than can be affected differently by lightening. Roots are usually darker than length, which is exposed to weather and lightens from UV.
I am glad that you got lightening and sorry that you were not pleased with the over all results.
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