i've never done these so i gave it a go -
using two methods one which worked but i think needs practice and the other one went rather odd not looking 8 shaped at all.
starting with - (sorry if it looks a bit messy)
with this artical http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...e&articleid=40 which erm well you can see, i either couldn't understand it or my hair length couldn't handle it.
and this one which is a bun with one coil turn horizontal or vertical depending if you want a 8 or a ∞ from this utube clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxnSf...eature=related
i've come to the concussion my hair is too short and makes my hair at the moment look limp. i really want some decent buns
i know be patent rach
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