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    Default Re: The henna/cassia thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Faraniel View Post
    Thank you! Would it be a problem if I leave it sit to release over night? The thing is, I prefer to apply it early because my hair takes time to dry.
    I don't think so, but if you do, mix it up with room temperature water so it releases more slowly You can just warm it up a bit before you put the mud on your head so it isn't cold.

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    Done it Nightshade, I have to say henna is certainly potent! This is what I ended up with but it’s getting darker now that it’s starting to oxidise. I’ll wait for a few more days before deciding if I need another application of henna but perhaps a Arctic Fox gloss might serve just as well to take it closer to red without darkening it. Thanks for all the help!
    https://imgur.com/a/vfaV9E0][/URL]
    Last edited by Kaoria; October 11th, 2019 at 09:47 PM.

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    Default Re: The henna/cassia thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade View Post
    You can read the long version here, but the short version is:

    Sedr- The leaves of this plant have a permeable waxy coating to help retain moisture. It is the fatty acids and secondary alcohols of this epicuticular wax that gives Sedr its conditioning and cleansing benefits. As such, it will wear off over time and needs to be refreshed every 4-8 weeks.

    Senna– The conditioning properties and golden color come from Chrysophanic acid. The tannins and chrysophanic acid in senna also have anti-fungal and anti-bacterial properties. Needs to be refreshed every 4-8 weeks.

    Henna– There are two steps in the conditioning properties of henna. The first is the lawsone molecule, which binds to the keratin in hair and permanently makes makes hair red-orange, stronger and thicker. Also a desert plant, henna leaves a permeable coating on hair similar to that of Sedr’s. This coating fills in rough spots on the cuticle and helps reduce damage from outside sources such as combing and styling. This permeable coating, however, fades after 4-8 weeks.

    So the Chrysophanic acid of cassia/senna has no thickening properties to speak of. Most of henna's thickening properties are from the plant wax-coating, which fades in time. Sedr also produces a similar desert plant-wax, and I would say it's most similar to henna in regards to thickening.
    It seems like sedr may be my best option. This is very helpful. Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoria View Post
    Done it Nightshade, I have to say henna is certainly potent! This is what I ended up with but it’s getting darker now that it’s starting to oxidise. I’ll wait for a few more days before deciding if I need another application of henna but perhaps a Arctic Fox gloss might serve just as well to take it closer to red without darkening it. Thanks for all the help!
    https://imgur.com/a/vfaV9E0][/URL]
    Your picture doesn't work for me, but I hope the color ends up where you want it

    Quote Originally Posted by captainjanuary View Post
    It seems like sedr may be my best option. This is very helpful. Thank you!
    You're so welcome!

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    Default Re: The henna/cassia thread

    Has anyone tried 1/2 cassia and 1/2 henna? The thing is I could only find 100g cassia package in the shop I prefer, the rest I found were internet shops with a rather expensive shipping. I CAN buy another package but this one would be easier. Any pictures maybe how the shade turned out for you?

    Edit: I was thinking about a color like this? Or would it be more red?
    Last edited by Faraniel; October 17th, 2019 at 05:09 AM.

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    Default Re: The henna/cassia thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Faraniel View Post
    Has anyone tried 1/2 cassia and 1/2 henna? The thing is I could only find 100g cassia package in the shop I prefer, the rest I found were internet shops with a rather expensive shipping. I CAN buy another package but this one would be easier. Any pictures maybe how the shade turned out for you?

    Edit: I was thinking about a color like this? Or would it be more red?
    Faraniel, did you end up trying the 50/50 henna cassia? I want a color like in that image too. I have bought 100g of each and am trying to decide between 50/50 or 2 parts cassia to 1 part henna. I will be doing some testing this week but it's interesting to see others results

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