Hair toys fall out due to lots of slip. Help!

**Liz H** · November 2nd, 2019, 05:34 AM

My hair has lots of slip, especially after a SMT. I love the way it feels, but neither a hair stick nor a fork will hold a bun for me. Any suggestions? I'm tempted to henna just to give them something to grab on to. I don't use cones.

ps I usually use spin pins, though I'm not sure they hold real well right now either.

**Sarahlabyrinth** · November 2nd, 2019, 05:39 AM

It won't slip out of claw clips.....

**Natalina** · November 2nd, 2019, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by Sarahlabyrinth

It won't slip out of claw clips.....

I agree! But if you've thick/very long hair it can get a bit heavy and hurt your scalp (this happens to me if my hair is being extra slippery, the claw doesn't come off but it's pulling due to the slipperyness I guess?).

If this happens, try to section them, and maybe use multiple and perhaps smaller claw clips.

Good luck!

**AmaryllisRed** · November 2nd, 2019, 08:33 AM

My hair is very slippery. What kind of styles are you doing? I almost never wear an unbraided bun with a stick. Unless my hair is damp or braided, things tend to fall out.

**lapushka** · November 2nd, 2019, 09:23 AM

Yes, good question, AmaryllisRed. What kind of bun are you doing?

Cg · November 2nd, 2019, 01:44 PM

Also how long is your hair? My ultraslick hair doesn't even hold solidly when damp, braided, and twisted -- and it's well past FTL. Until it reached classic I could guarantee having to rebun it several times a day no matter the style, hairtoy(s), or weather. Now I can sometimes go all day, but it took mine a LOT of length before it would reliably not slither out of its clips.

As for claw clips, yes they do slide down and out. I almost always French braid from crown to ~ APL or so and then bun. The then hidden crosses behind give your clips something to anchor to and not pull down too far.

**Tinyponies** · November 2nd, 2019, 01:52 PM

Also not all sticks and forks are created equally with regard to how well they’ll hold.

Cg · November 2nd, 2019, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Tinyponies

Also not all sticks and forks are created equally with regard to how well they’ll hold.

Right. I need sturdy forks with close-set prongs, the more the better (typically I use 5-prongs). I could never get skinny little metal forks with their skinny little prongs to hold, nor single sticks either.

Wood forks hold better than acrylic. I recommend Jeter forks.