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    Quote Originally Posted by Joules View Post
    Cancer is like a plain crash. There never is just one cause, there's always a number of factors that when combined become disastrous. Genetic predisposition, stress levels, immune system, lifestyle choices (including even sleep patterns) can all lead to cancer in one way or another, but for some reason only shampoo and deodorants scare people.
    Yes, it's about putting things into perspective. I agree with you on that. Good point!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lapushka View Post
    And the bold is what it was about here in the first place, right? Not high amounts, just cosmetic use. So there is no reason for this thing blowing up the way it has, IMO.
    True. I think it blew up due to the blanket statement, which technically was correct but irrelevant in the context

    Quote Originally Posted by Joules View Post
    Cancer is like a plain crash. There never is just one cause, there's always a number of factors that when combined become disastrous. Genetic predisposition, stress levels, immune system, lifestyle choices (including even sleep patterns) can all lead to cancer in one way or another, but for some reason only shampoo and deodorants scare people.
    Very true!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MusicalSpoons View Post
    True. I think it blew up due to the blanket statement, which technically was correct but irrelevant in the context
    Which is generally why I dislike statements like that with no backing, just "xyz causes cancer". I mean. That is fearmongering. Very scary thing to do and quite unnecessary.
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    ^ agreed. Though it was interesting researching it a bit
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    Quote Originally Posted by MusicalSpoons View Post
    ^ agreed. Though it was interesting researching it a bit
    Isn't it always? I love to research various things as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lapushka View Post
    I don't have it in any of my conditioners as far as I can tell, at least I never came across it so far, but formulations may vary country to country as well. I'm in the EU.
    Formaldehyde is not allowed in cosmetics, nail products, and toothpaste in the EU. The EU has banned or restricted over 2000 chemicals from cosmetic products compared to over 500 in Canada and only 8 in the US so to compare yours with theirs is not quite like with like. Even the same product often will have different formulations in different countries, so you can't assume even then!

    The European Union follows a hazard based assessment model, which means that if there is a known hazard associated with a chemical it is more likely to be banned or restricted. The difference in Canada is, that even if we know a chemical has health risks associated to it, the risk based method means it can still be used in consumer products if the risk to exposure is considered low enough. The US is very, very slow to change their rules. As a pretty decent example of this - Use of lead-based interior paints was banned in France, Belgium and Austria in 1909. Much of Europe followed suit before 1940. It took the U.S. until 1978.

    This sometimes goes the other direction as well, I look for non-US sunscreen because other countries allow more effective filters and formulas that aren't so greasy and gross feeling!

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    I suppose in my original post I wasnt really thinking about the long term possible side effects of formaldehyde but more along the lines of “this is a strong chemical used to preserve dead bodies, should I really be putting it on my hair?” Im not discouraging others from using it. If you would like to put formaldehyde containing products on your head, by all mean do so. I just thought about it shortly after making the post and decided not to. The place i purchased from welcomes returns and took it back no problem. That was actually the first hair product I have ever seen with that ingredient in it, so I dont think avoiding it should be a problem for me at all with future hair purchases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chromis View Post
    Formaldehyde is not allowed in cosmetics, nail products, and toothpaste in the EU. The EU has banned or restricted over 2000 chemicals from cosmetic products compared to over 500 in Canada and only 8 in the US so to compare yours with theirs is not quite like with like. Even the same product often will have different formulations in different countries, so you can't assume even then!

    The European Union follows a hazard based assessment model, which means that if there is a known hazard associated with a chemical it is more likely to be banned or restricted. The difference in Canada is, that even if we know a chemical has health risks associated to it, the risk based method means it can still be used in consumer products if the risk to exposure is considered low enough. The US is very, very slow to change their rules. As a pretty decent example of this - Use of lead-based interior paints was banned in France, Belgium and Austria in 1909. Much of Europe followed suit before 1940. It took the U.S. until 1978.

    This sometimes goes the other direction as well, I look for non-US sunscreen because other countries allow more effective filters and formulas that aren't so greasy and gross feeling!
    To tell you the truth, I often feel (not only on this) that the EU acts rather rashly - but that is just a subjective feeling, not more. I could not begin to start talking regulations.

    I have heard that about sunscreens and the few filters the US allows. A good channel to watch on YT maybe "Dr Dray". She waxes so positively about EU sunscreens for the reasons you mention and she reviews them.
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    ^ I'm slightly the opposite; I'm grateful to know for sure that the products allowed to be on sale are either completely safe or safe at reasonable levels of use (e.g. even water is harmful if you drink far too much in a short period of time!) It seems more people than ever are sensitive to more substances, so why raise the risk unnecessarily?

    (I don't get involved in politics but this issue is one thing I'm mindful of regarding US trade negotiations for after Brexit - if certain conditions [particularly regarding food imports] pass as part of deals, I will be doing some research into the relevant chemicals and methods. I don't live in fear, nor do I plan to worry excessively, but I also can't afford for anything to make me more ill unnecessarily )
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    Quote Originally Posted by MusicalSpoons View Post
    ^ I'm slightly the opposite; I'm grateful to know for sure that the products allowed to be on sale are either completely safe or safe at reasonable levels of use (e.g. even water is harmful if you drink far too much in a short period of time!) It seems more people than ever are sensitive to more substances, so why raise the risk unnecessarily?

    (I don't get involved in politics but this issue is one thing I'm mindful of regarding US trade negotiations for after Brexit - if certain conditions [particularly regarding food imports] pass as part of deals, I will be doing some research into the relevant chemicals and methods. I don't live in fear, nor do I plan to worry excessively, but I also can't afford for anything to make me more ill unnecessarily )
    MusicalSpoons I’m worried about the same thing with regard to trade deals. I also like the protection that we currently have with the EU in many areas...sorry I don’t want to derail the thread but it’s impossible to read a thread like this without thinking what might happen in the future.

    There are plenty of ingredients and materials that were widely used when I was growing up which are no longer considered to be safe. I remember standing in Boots when I was about 13 checking that spray cans didn’t contain CFCs, as their impact on the environment was big news at the time.

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