Musical spoons - i didn't find your comment to be "somewhat less gracious" - its a valid point and it helps to discuss these things for a greater understanding.
I also believe others make their own choices and you can't change their minds but for me this is what feels right. The thing with bees is commercial bees...well the main thing i hate is that they basically squeeze the male inside out to artificially inseminate the queens. Which, repulsed me. Amateur bee keepers are more kind, imo. Don't feed their bees antibiotic syrup, and don't steal all their honey/wax supplies. Which is cool!
I will clarify I'm correct on modern day laying chickens being bred for laying excessive eggs- all wild birds lay eggs to reproduce -being...laying hatching them in season, not daily. Through selective breeding and domestication humans have created some amazing frankenstein creations...it's kinda beautiful but at times we go too far (bull dog heads being so big and hips so narrow that natural childbirth is nearing impossible and most opt for C section right off the bat to prevent complications and deaths). Some are bred for feathers, some meat (which...the speed at which they grow literally makes their legs give way) and etc. Being more ethical and taking products of the animals that aren't meat (wool, honey, eggs etc) I think is much better - so long as they don't suffer. But perhaps I dream of a utopia, haha. I'm not perfect myself. Did also want to mention that at 2 years of age all layer hens are gassed alive as their lay count drops. That's kinda sad for their life to be cut short for that reason. It's simply because they are no longer economical to keep.
I do have a lot of herbs in the yard I've grown...and I just don't find them to be so cleansing. I'm sure in time i'll figure something out. I was just getting sick of the hair soap bar. I'm trying not to use packaging or anything and kinda going self-sufficient about it all.
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