Honey thread - from TBB and bits from old LHC

[ktani]

kimki

So do I but it is better to eat it than wear it - and from the increasing number of irritation reports - suffer because of it.

[DolphinPrincess]

After my treatment last night, I have definite lightening. Hopefully I'll get pictures today or tomorrow. I just want to add that cardamom washes/rinses out of hair MUCH easier than cinnamon! However, for $10 a bottle, I have to use it sparingly.

[ktani]

DolphinPrincess

I am absolutely thrilled for you!

From the start when I saw that spice list and researched cardamom, I believed it might be a better choice than cinnamon.

But it needed testing.

That is where all of you come in.

The research pointed the way - I would never recommend something with serious problems - and cinnamon at first yielded great reported results in this thread when mixed with honey, in a lightening treatment.

The research indicated that it might be a problem for skin, but the reports had not shown that to be the case at first.

I am so pleased that cardamom is proving itself.

[kimki]

Quick question if I may ktani. I know your keeping some records of peoples results.

How many people have reported lightening from honey compared to those who notice no difference?

Just curious.

[LadyPolaris]

Okay, today we had a sliver of sunlight! (Not enough for a beautiful direct sunlight picture though!) I took the photo in the same conditions as the first one, for consistency.

Here's my first picture - one day after my 1st honey+cinnamon treatment. My 4 parts water were actually 2 parts conditioner, 2 parts warm chamomile tea. 2tbsp cinnamon, no other additives. Bio21 honey (supposedly orange blossom). Left on for 3 hours.




And here's my second picture - one day after my 2nd honey+cinnamon treatment. I used all 4 parts cool chamomile tea this time, 2tbsp cinnamon like last time PLUS 1/2 tbsp coconut oil. Same Bio21 honey. Left on for 3 hours as well.




I can definitely see the henna fading away into an orange fox fur color. The rest of my hair seems to be slowly becoming less of a medium-dark ashy brown and more of a medium warm brown.

Many thanks to ktani for her research!

[ktani]

kimki

That is a difficult question to answer without giving you some background.

I now know much more about how to get honey lightening to work and work better than in the previous 4 Honey threads.

It is not just the honey itself than can produce little peroxide - it is the dilution - it was the possibly the conditioner previously and it definitely is the method that can make the difference in successful honey lightening.

Also previously, I did not know about the effect Vitamin C would have in a honey lightening recipe.

All of these things could have played a part in unsuccessful honey lightening results.

So, to cut to the chase - there have been more successful reported cases of honey lightening in the Honey threads than not or the threads would not have continued.

How many of the unsuccessful cases could be turned around now?

I'd say most of them IMO, but I cannot give you a number or an exact count - and with the new information I think that there will be many more successful honey lightening reports.

[ktani]

LadyPolaris

I am so pleased for you that the lightening has taken your gorgeous hennaed hair from burgundy to more of an orange/red shade.

I see no burgundy colour at all.

Thank you as well for the pictures.

I think that in a chamomile tea base with just cardamom, honey and a bit of extra virgin olive oil - you will get even better results.

[kimki]

Ktani thank you for an excellent response, I didn't think of it like that.

LadyPolaris I can see a definate change too. Beautiful hair.

[LadyPolaris]

LadyPolaris

I am so pleased for you that the lightening has taken your gorgeous hennaed hair from burgundy to more of an orange/red shade.

Thank you as well for the pictures.

I think that in a chamomile tea base with just cardamom, honey and a bit of extra virgin olive oil - you will get even better results.

You are too kind!

The recipe you suggested is exactly what I plan on doing next! I have the EVOO now (thanks hubby!). I just have to hunt for some cardamom. I wonder if fresh cardamom as opposed to less-than-fresh ground cardamom will make a huge difference... let's see what I can find. Trying to increase that peroxide release!

I wonder if the food thickeners some ladies use in their henna recipes would be usable in our honey lightening recipe. Lawsone is a tough cookie in comparison to our shy peroxide concentration.

Also, this mix was rather hard to wash off the hair - I had to use conditioner to get it all out (although not nearly as much conditioner as I go through when I wash henna out!). I didn't need anything to wash off the former 2-part conditioner recipe, well, except for water! I wonder if our current recipe is moisturizing enough on the hair - specially now that we're trying to really bring out some more peroxide. I'm afraid to add pure aloe vera gel, essential oils etc., as they may tamper with the peroxide release.

[LadyPolaris]

LadyPolaris I can see a definate change too. Beautiful hair.

Thank you so much!! I'm so glad there's a noticeable change! It's an excellent motivation to keep doing these great treatments. And thank you for the very kind compliment, it means a lot coming from someone with such gorgeous tresses!