Honey thread - from TBB and bits from old LHC

[ktani]

GlennaGirl

The tint brush would allow you to concentrate the treatment on the centre of you hair - and avoid the roots and ends - it is just what you need, IMO.

[mellie]

Ktani asked me to post how I use my Mellie's Mix (which doesn't have conditioner), so here goes:

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Applying Mellie's Mix
Since my mix is a tea (chamomile and mullein) with honey added, it is very much a liquid. I apply it where I want it most with a tint brush (which you can find at Sally's Beauty Supply or probably CVS, etc.) until the hair is saturated. This allows me to concentrate on the places where I want it.

Option 1: Outside
It worked really nicely for me to sit outside in cool, low sun. You can bring your cup with your leftover mix and tint brush outside with you, and reapply during the hour.

Option 2: Inside
You can pour the leftover mix over your hair if you want and squeeze out. Then cover with a plastic bag and a towel and sit for an hour.

Rinse!
Then just rinse out. It will rinse out very easily if you have used a good tea ball and strained out any loose herb.

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[ktani]

Ktani asked me to post how I use my Mellie's Mix (which doesn't have conditioner), so here goes:

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Applying Mellie's Mix
Since my mix is a tea (chamomile and mullein) with honey added, it is very much a liquid. I apply it where I want it most with a tint brush (which you can find at Sally's Beauty Supply or probably CVS, etc.) until the hair is saturated. This allows me to concentrate on the places where I want it.

Option 1: Outside
It worked really nicely for me to sit outside in cool, low sun. You can bring your cup with your leftover mix and tint brush outside with you, and reapply during the hour.

Option 2: Inside
You can pour the leftover mix over your hair if you want and squeeze out. Then cover with a plastic bag and a towel and sit for an hour.

Rinse!
Then just rinse out. It will rinse out very easily if you have used a good tea ball and strained out any loose herb.

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mellie

Thank you so much for posting this.

I do though have a problem with option 1.

Even though low afternoon sun is weak - I do not recommend UV exposure during the treatment.

And while both you and firebird don't always cover your hair and keep spraying water on your hair to keep the treatment moist, I think that uninterrrupted moisture and body heat (which is relatively minimal in terms of heat) benefit the honey lightening treatment's performance.

[blackfrostqueen]

Just wanted to give an interesting update of what I've found happening to my own hair. I've been doing honey treatments to lighten the line between my new growth and year old chemically dyed hair. And from what I found today after my latest honey treatment is that the honey is eating through (is my only way to describe it) my chemically dye hair. well, not really the hair itself, but the dye job. It seems to be "stripping" off the first layer of dye to reveal the dyed color beneath it.

Sorry if that sounds weird or is hard to understand. What I am meaning is the honey seems to be taking off the brown (now light brown/dark blonde) hair dye to be revealing the red hair dye (the color I tried covering with the brown) beneath it.

I'd show pictures of what I mean, but my camera isn't picking up the change. And I know I'm not imagining it, because my mom was the one that first noticed it. The line between my natural hair and the dye hair was a very visible blonde line. And now its red!

I didn't think chemical dyes could be "stripped" in layers.

[ktani]

Just wanted to give an interesting update of what I've found happening to my own hair. I've been doing honey treatments to lighten the line between my new growth and year old chemically dyed hair. And from what I found today after my latest honey treatment is that the honey is eating through (is my only way to describe it) my chemically dye hair. well, not really the hair itself, but the dye job. It seems to be "stripping" off the first layer of dye to reveal the dyed color beneath it.

Sorry if that sounds weird or is hard to understand. What I am meaning is the honey seems to be taking off the brown (now light brown/dark blonde) hair dye to be revealing the red hair dye (the color I tried covering with the brown) beneath it.

I'd show pictures of what I mean, but my camera isn't picking up the change. And I know I'm not imagining it, because my mom was the one that first noticed it. The line between my natural hair and the dye hair was a very visible blonde line. And now its red!

I didn't think chemical dyes could be "stripped" in layers.

blackfrostqueen

Thank you for the very colourful analogy, lol.

I am glad that the the honey lightening is working so well for you.

How is the condition of your hair?

Toothless version please, lol.

[blackfrostqueen]

blackfrostqueen

Thank you for the very colourful analogy, lol.

I am glad that the the honey lightening is working so well for you.

How is the condition of your hair?

Toothless version please, lol.

The condition is pretty good. The old chemically dye part is damaged, but that was that way before the honey. I've been doing conditioning treatments to help soft the length up.

I am however trying to watch the condition to make sure that the honey isn't actually stripping the hair, causing it to become thinner or even more fragile than it already is.

I just find it crazy that the red is poking through.

[ktani]

blackfrostqueen

I appreciate you monitoring your hair.

I am monitoring the reports on results.

Is your hair weaker or more damaged since doing honey lightening?

[blackfrostqueen]

No, ktani, not that I have noticed. No damage or weakening. Honey is a little drying, but nothing a good conditioning can't fix.

I am also using honey on my natural/new growth hair to watch and see the changes in that as well. And neither there have I seen any damage or weakening. Just the obvious paling of color.

[DolphinPrincess]

So I ended up doing a honey treatment last night.

1/4 c honey
1 c Suave Vanilla Floral Condish (was going to use half condish and half water, but it seemed pretty liquid as it was)
1.5 T EVOO
small blob coconut oil, less than one T
2 T cardamom
2 T cinnamon

I mixed it really well, then applied to freshly shampooed, towel dried hair. Ended up leaving it on for about 2 hours. (My kiddos decided mommy couldn't get in the shower) Today my hair is slightly weird feeling, not in an unhealthy way, but like maybe I didn't get it all out. Btw, I had no skin reaction this time. I think, when I did have the reaction, that maybe it wasn't mixed well or something.

Oh, almost forgot the most important part, there seems to be a bit of a color change!! Not much, and probably not noticable to anyone else, but its there! I hope to get a picture later this week, when its not greasy and icky. Maybe I'll get in another treatment tomorrow, without the EVOO, I really don't think it does much good for my hair. And, I'll follow through with the half water and half condish.

[ktani]

blackfrostqueen

Thank you for letting me know.

I think that it is important to know about how honey lightening affects damaged hair as well as healthy hair.

The fact that your damaged hair is not worse is excellent, IMO.

I am very pleased for you - it means that you do not have to trim your hair until you are ready.

The dryness from honey lightening is probably residue.

A weak vinegar rinse (1 tsp white vinegar to 24 oz of water, left on the hair for 30-60 seconds and rinsed out) should help that followed by deep conditioning your fragile ends.