Honey thread - from TBB and bits from old LHC

[DolphinPrincess]

Ooh, yay! I have my fingers crossed!

[ktani]

DolphinPrincess

If you try the ground cardamom, I suggest mixing it well into the recipe before you put the treatment on your hair - the honey and conditioner should help buffer your skin and scalp from any irritation. You can also add a small bit of EVOO to the mix - that may help prevent irritation as well as add an extra peroxide boost.

[ilovelonghair]

One part of my hair has a color I don't like:


So someone on the henna thread suggested a couple of things of which one was the honey treatment.

I would like that part of my hair to become more like thisrefer a tone like this:

[ktani]

I now keep an index of posts.

bizarrogirl's first recipe - 1/4 cup honey, 1/4 cup V05 Kiwi Lime Conditioner, 6 tblsp cinnamon.
Results on 2 henndigoes with multiple henna layers underneath - 8 hours
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bizarro...7594199905645/

2nd recipe - 1/4 cup honey, 4 tblsp cinnamon, 1/2 c up water, 1/2 cup V05 Kiwi Lime Conditioner for 1 hour.
This time it lightened the henna layers - no burgundy colour.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bizarro...7594199905645/


More water, less cinnamon, less conditioner, same amount of honey = better results in less time by my calculations.

ilovelonghair

I cannot predict what colour that you will get from a honey lightening treatment but have a look at the 2nd recipe here and the results and give it a try if you think that this is a recipe you want to do.

I recommend that the treatment be applied to clean wet hair and covered during the hour that it is on the hair with plastic, a bag or wrap and no external heat or sunlight applied.

[mellie]

DolphinPrincess, I didn't think mine was lightening either, but I decided to take photos, and sure enough you can tell in the photos! I just couldn't tell so much to my eye.

[ktani]

WARNING

Having read a number of net articles on cinnamon lightening, at least one of them suggested to cover the hair with conditioner and then apply the cinnamon so it would stick to the conditioner, as a method of doing the treatment.

Whoever thought up that method obviously did not try it or has skin of iron, IMO.

Cinnamon is an irritant.

People have reported burning, red skin and irritation from cinnamon spills on their skin in this thread and elsewhere.

Thankfully, with aloe vera gel and time - the condition was reported to be temporary - the problem healed with no lasting effects.

Cinnamon has not been reported to be a problem when it is pre-mixed into a recipe.

For a honey cinnamon treatment, please mix the cinnamon into the treatment before applying the recipe to the hair.

The conditioner and honey should help buffer the cinnamon from being as irritating to both scalp and skin.

[mellie]

Ktani,

I left out the squeeze of lemon and also the sun per your recommendation, and covered with plastic and a towel for one hour.

Also, please note that I just added another photo with my hair brushed out, it shows the lightening more I think! :-)

[ktani]

I tried another honey treatment this weekend. Per ktani's recommendations, I left out the lemon and sun in my Mellie's Mix, and left it on for an hour under plastic & a towel. Here are my results:

Before:


Mellie's Mix 1st treatment:


Mellie's Mix 2nd treatment (and brushed out)

mellie

IMO, an extra picture deserves an encore of the entire set.

This is Mellie's Mix before and after on layers of Rainbow Dark Brown Henna.

1 cup of boiled water with herbs - 1 tablespoon Roman chamomile (Anthemis nobilis), 1 tablespoon mullein to 1/4 cup of alfalfa honey. Fantastic results!

It is the perfect 4 parts water to 1 part honey dilution which mellie had used in creating this recipe, before I found out the reason why the dilution worked so well, through my researching honey.

Note: While both herbs may contribute to the lightening they do not have peroxide values and therefore are not peroxide boosters. The 4 to 1 dilution works in 1 hour because it allows the honey used, to produce its maximum peroxide value in that time.

Results may vary - different honeys produce different amounts of peroxide. This applies to all of the honey lightening treatments.

[naturechild]

I did the honey treatment last night but didnt have vo5 on hand so I used burts bees greatfruit.pommigranit oops in retrospect I unintentionaly put vit, c with the mix (Greatfruit?)

I may have not gotten a lot of lightening but my hair is SO soft and shiny I dont care. I'll do it again with the VO5 Thur.

I am getting a camera soon so I will have to post after/in the process pic. when I get it.

While my hair was dark and I wanted to keep it they way I did a honey gloss twice a week:

after I CWC
In a Largeish empty honey jug, 6-1 water to honey mix shake up.
pour over my hair and let sit while I soak in the tub.
right before I get out of the tub I rinse.

It leaves my hair so soft and shiney, my daughter says my hair has never looked better.

[ktani]

I did the honey treatment last night but didnt have vo5 on hand so I used burts bees greatfruit.pommigranit oops in retrospect I unintentionaly put vit, c with the mix (Greatfruit?)

I may have not gotten a lot of lightening but my hair is SO soft and shiny I dont care. I'll do it again with the VO5 Thur.

I am getting a camera soon so I will have to post after/in the process pic. when I get it.

While my hair was dark and I wanted to keep it they way I did a honey gloss twice a week:

after I CWC
In a Largeish empty honey jug, 6-1 water to honey mix shake up.
pour over my hair and let sit while I soak in the tub.
right before I get out of the tub I rinse.

It leaves my hair so soft and shiney, my daughter says my hair has never looked better.

naturechild

Thank you for reporting back with your recipe.

It may not have been just the grapefruit Vitamin C that did not help the treatment work as well as you would have liked.

If you can, please post the ingredient list of the conditioner. Burt's Bees list their ingredients - nice - which conditioner did you use?
http://www.burtsbees.com/webapp/wcs/...0001&langId=-1

Grapefruit seed extract does contain Vitamin C and so would pomegranate extract IMO, not making either of those conditioners the best choice for a honey lightening treatment, even though at least one of them contains honey. I think that a V05 or a Suave Natural conditioner would be better for lightening purposes.

It could also have been the particular honey that you used.

As to your other recipe, if you did not have that mix on your hair, covered to maintain the moisture level, for at least an hour, it would not have very much of a lightening effect.

I am happy for you that using honey on your hair has resulted in it being so soft and shiny and in good health.