Honey thread - from TBB and bits from old LHC

[lynnala]

ktani; thanks for alerting me to these last pages. So you'll know how I'm using the honey, I am mixing about a tablespoon or so in a quart of water (warm first to melt the honey, then cold), and I use it as a final cold rinse which I do not wash out. I've been trying it for the conditioning effects, I didn't expect the color effects. I think you are right about it reacting with the cassia. The next time I wash my hair, I'll take some pics so we can compare them to my sig pics which are one month old. BTW, I am also experiencing the crunchy ends, so I am going to wash the rinse out of the ends from now on. (also, you can see from my sig pic how my hair took color from a three-hour cassia treatment).

[ktani]

lynnala

I thank you for helping me figure this out - if I am right.

You do not have to wash the rinse out.

Since the honey is so diluted - try a weak vinegar rinse first - 1 tsp of your preferred vinegar to 24 oz of water, left on the hair for 30-60 seconds, then rinsed out.

That may give you more moisturizing benefits than shampooing the honey rinse out.

I have noticed your cassia results before - amazing!

[lynnala]

ktani, I started using the honey because I dislike the smell of vinegar, even though I love the results vinegar had on my hair. I am just going to run the ends of my hair under clear water to see if it helps with the crunchies. I'm also going to experiment with citric acid in the honey rinse, as soon as I can find some citric acid.

[ktani]

lynnala

IMO, clear water may not be enough for the honey residue - it has not worked before, according to reports.

I also do not think adding citric acid to the honey rinse will help.

Try the citric acid rinse after the honey rinse.

[lynnala]

Thanks ktani, I'll give it a try the way you suggest.

[Meli]

Just chiming in a little: I have experimented a little with HALO-rinse-inspired honey rinses (as a final, leave-in rinse). I tried different amounts of honey, and twice I happened to get too much honey which made my ends crunchy. Both times, a short rinse with water was enough to remove the crunchiness and make my hair soft again. So with small amounts of honey residue, plain water may be enough to fix it - at least it is for me. (I have never had any honey residue problems except for these two rinses.)

[ktani]

Meli

Thank you for that - crunchy ends have been reported with the honey lightening treatments - resolved by either a vinegar rinse or shampoo.

However, it is good to know that for you, clear water did work on diluted honey rinses - it is worth a shot, IMO, based on your report.

[savi]

Hi, sorry about me barging in, but since honey is reported to bleach and cinnamon can too bleach, what about yogurt? And this question is inspired by my idiotic attemp at a face mask combining those three together. I thought it might be worth asking but I'll go away now..

[ktani]

savi

You are not intruding in the least. All questions are welcome.

And you are correct.

Certain yogurts do have a peroxide value.

Yogurt has been reported not to work out too well mixed with honey for hair - the hair was reported not to feel as good afterward, compared to other recipe ingredient choices.

L. acidolphilus and probiotic yogurts produce peroxide - mixed with honey and cinnamon for a face mask sounds like a great idea, IMO.

[ktani]

I will be posting recaps every few pages or so to help people keep up with the thread as it gets longer, depending on content.