Honey thread - from TBB and bits from old LHC

[ktani]

frannyg

I look forward to reading your results.

[Liv]

[quote=ktani;7475]Liv

People have used crushed tomatoes and tomato paste but they can tend to stain the hair more red - there were less problems and no red stain reported with pasta sauce.
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I've been using tomato paste (I think, it's called tomatopurè in Norway and is made of tomatoes and salt), it stained my greys/whites a bit yellow but only temporarely. I will try the pasta sauce next time, to see if there is any difference.

[ktani]

Liv

From my research on tomato paste in Europe, there are variations - there are double and triple strength versions.
They can be referred to as tomato puree from what I have read.

Here in North America, tomato paste and and tomato puree are 2 different products as far as I know. I think it has to do with water content or concentration.

If you are having success with the tomato paste or puree that you are using with no downside, by all means continue using it.

Pasta sauce is more diluted.

A stronger tomato paste could be problematic - I cannot say for sure.

[ktani]

Liv

Here is one explanation of the differences between tomato paste, puree and sauce.
http://www.ochef.com/559.htm

and here is another - you have to scroll down a bit
http://www.sonic.net/~alden/CondimntEur.html

and then there is tomato concentrate
http://www.fft.com/fftt/servlet/fftt...E94B456A38D947

[Liv]

Thank's ktani, I'll check out the links.
I know that the puree in Norway is way stronger then pasta sauce, we always use a lot of water to dilute it when we cook.

[ktani]

Liv

You need enough moisture in the honey lightening treatment to dilute the honey but from your results it sounds like you have that.

I always recommend to add water if necessary but you have had no problems.

[ktani]

Liv

Unless you have a problem I do not think there is anything in your recipe that you need to change.

[FrannyG]

Well, I've had too much of a migraine for the past few days to even think straight, so I didn't get any photos, but here's the story.

My hair is dyed with a medium brown colour. On the canopy it looked medium brown, but underneath it was looking almost black. It was driving me crazy, because I have mostly grey hair, and because my hair is so straight, the roots would show almost immediately. I'd been doing two-hour honey/conditioner treatments twice weekly for a few weeks, and definitely, the black looking hair lightened quite a bit, but with more red than suits my taste or my colouring. Of course the red stage is usually part of any lightening. So I realized I wanted more intensive treatments.

On Sunday and Monday I did 8 hour treatments with 3 parts conditioner (Alberto (VO5) Kiwi Lime Squeeze), 2 parts honey and 1 part EVOO on damp hair. Yesterday I did a 2 hour treatment. I'm very happy with the results. My hair has definitely lightened to what I would now call a very dark blonde, and instead of it having reddish highlights in the sun, the overall highlights in the sun are down to a golden hue.

I'm really delighted with the results, and my hair feels soft and silky.

[ktani]

frannyg

I am so happy to hear that you got what you wanted from the treatments.

I was a bit surprised about the red stage but glad to hear that you successfully moved beyond that point with further treatments.

Thank you for posting such complete details and results.

I am especially pleased to read that the conditioning is so good as well.

[FrannyG]

I should add that when I say my hair has golden highlights in the sun, it is a soft gold, not brassy, which was my fear.

I should clarify that my hair did not turn red, it just had a very reddish cast in the sun. That was definitely an improvement from the almost flat black it had been.

Thanks for all the help ktani!