Honey thread - from TBB and bits from old LHC

[Aisha25]

Ok

I just pulled the back hair forward and cut it shorter than the side/front hair.

It is hot here - so I put my hair up.

I did the trim on dry hair - uncombed but pulled taught.

Being wavy, my hair looks even (I was careful and I have corrected my stylists slight errors when I have don an s&d)) and when I put it up - it feels just like it does after a professional trim when I loop my hair around - the ends feel more like they should at the tips, in terms of what is left to wind - if that makes sense to anyone else.

Your so brave Ktani I am so scared to try this on myself . Hair feel better now?

[ktani]

Your so brave Ktani I am so scared to try this on myself . Hair feel better now?

Aisha25

Yes thank you, it does.

I have been inspired by other LHC members to try this method.

I haven't had a trim in over 7 months.

Now that my hair is longer, it was easy.

My last trim, my stylist pulled the "oh I cut one side shorter than the other, by accident".

He has done this before when he thinks I have needed more trimmed than requested.

He has a huge heart and is a really good person and a friend but even his girlfriend has commented that he has cut her hair shorter than she wanted at times.

I just decided that why not?

I have cut my hair before, a long time ago.

2 times in a row perfectly.

The 3rd time, I panicked and cut one side 3 inches shorter than the other and never tried again.

This method though is easy.

My last trim, my stylist missed a small section of hair I wound up evening off as well.

I was nervous.

But in the past - precatnip, I have trimmed lots of breakage and split ends.

This is just a step up from that, IMO.

[Loreyanne_H]

Thank you Ktani!

Actually I really appreciate this thread because honey is one of the best things I can put on my hair: it makes my hair smooth, soft and voluminous. When - thank to you - I discovered the honey lightening method...it was a big surprise!

As I have seen by now (only two times honey) my hair is getting lighter, but it seems I really have an hard way along to make it really visible. I keep on trying, and postings my experiments.

Thank you very much for all the work you're doing here!

[ktani]

Thank you Ktani!

Actually I really appreciate this thread because honey is one of the best things I can put on my hair: it makes my hair smooth, soft and voluminous. When - thank to you - I discovered the honey lightening method...it was a big surprise!

As I have seen by now (only two times honey) my hair is getting lighter, but it seems I really have an hard way along to make it really visible. I keep on trying, and postings my experiments.

Thank you very much for all the work you're doing here!

Loreyanne_H

You are most welcome.

Thank you for posting on the condition of your hair following honey lightening.

I am glad that you are so pleasantly surprised and that the condition of your hair is so good.

soleluna is also in Italy.

She reported great success IMO, using black locust honey and the following recipe.

soleluna - on hennaed hair - the correct 4 to 1 dilution - after 1 treatment - with distilled water and only 1 tsp ground cinnamon - no conditioner
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1375

soleluna - recipe details and the condition of her hair following honey lightening Note: the correct amount of honey used was 2 tablespoons - there was an error made in transcribing the recipe
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1377

The amount of water is important too.

I hope that this helps you get better results faster.

Good luck.

I look forward to new results from you if you continue to honey lighten.

[ktani]

Finding vendors who sell distilled water will vary depending on where you are located, but here is a current thread on the subject.
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...ead.php?t=8425

[ktani]

An encore of the shortened recommendations.

A breakdown of the newest honey lightening recommendations, which have been reported to be working out very well. This is all in the recommendations post in my signature.

Patch test any of the ingredients not previously used on scalp or skin.

1. Choose a honey - the Successful Honeys List
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...ount=856itamin

"If one cannot be found - try a dark coloured honey blend - raw or pasteurized - both have been reported to work equally well. Dark coloured blends were reported in research, to have higher peroxide levels than lighter coloured blends. A dark coloured, single source honey, does not necessarily have a high peroxide value - it depends on the plant source."

Jarrah honey - highly recommended - it has a very high peroxide value. More information and suppliers can be found here.
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1266

Some honeys naturally contain higher levels of Vitamin C. Avoid using Anzer, buckwheat, linden flower, locust flower, mint and thyme honeys.

2. Use distilled water only. It contains no minerals. Minerals can deplete the recipe peroxide (so can Vitamin C, see #5). Conditioner is no longer recommended for honey lightening. Its ingredients and lack of water content can interfere with results. The same applies to coconut cream and milk (they contain minerals and can contain Vitamin C, as well as not enough water).

3. Use the 4 to 1 dilution (it is based on 4 x the amount of water to honey by weight) - e.g. 1/8 cup honey needs 3/4 cup distilled water, 50 ml honey needs 200 ml distilled water etc.
http://www.traditionaloven.com/conve...surements.html

4. Do not apply heat to any of the recipe ingredients at any time, except herbal tea if used, that is cooled to room temperature before adding any other ingredients. Peroxide containing boosters are ground cardamom, ground cinnamon, extra virgin olive oil and coconut oil.

5. Do not add lemon juice, or any other ingredient that contains Vitamin C to a recipe, like tomato products, which are no longer recommended. Hydrogen peroxide oxidizes Vitamin C, and is depleted in doing so.

6. Mix the treatment at room temperature and let it sit for 1 hour, also at room temperature, to allow the honey to produce its maximum peroxide value.

7. Apply the treatment to dry hair if there is no aloe gel on it - aloe gel contains Vitamin C, or an unrinsed out rinse with Vitamin C, heavy residue, or a large amount of oil on the hair (a large amount of oil will act as a barrier to the water). If there is, wash the hair first then dry it to slightly damp. You will get less drips on dry hair. The treatment can be applied with a tint, blush, or pastry brush or a squirt bottle.

8. Pin up, then cover the hair with plastic, to keep it out of the way and contain drips. Leave the treatment on the hair for about 1 hour.

[ktani]

The Honey Article is up.

It is a full verson of the new recommendations, modified only in grammar and punctuation.

My sincere thanks to the mod who took the time and effort to do all of that and embed the links.
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...e&articleid=61

[ktani]

An encore of the lastest honey research, from the 2008 Symposium on Honey and Health

http://www.prohoneyandhealth.com/Use...7;20Report.pdf

[ktani]

The current Pictures Post
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1095

[ktani]

The largest colour change reported in a while, from only 1 treatment, with just honey and water.
From dark mid-brown to what I consider golden blonde.
I still only recommend distilled water.

HalcyonDays - on virgin hair - with the 4 to 1 dilution using tap water - after 1 treatment - left on the hair for 2 hours - just water and honey. The lighting is dark in the before picture, so I requested a replacement picture.
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1633

HalcyonDays - on the condition of her hair following honey lightening and a replacement before picture
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1635