Honey thread

**ktani** · June 14th, 2008, 05:11 PM

BrianaFineHair

Thank you for posting the recipe you used.

You will need to keep her hair wet - not moist or damp throughout the hour - without using the plastic.

Good luck!

**BrianaFineHair** · June 14th, 2008, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by ktani

BrianaFineHair

Thank you for posting the recipe you used.

You will need to keep her hair wet - not moist or damp throughout the hour - without using the plastic.

Good luck!

She's dripping and I'm misting.

The reason I did not want to use the cling wrap is I feel it would be harder to tell when she is drying, thus needing more mist. All of the unwrapping...wrapping back...just seems like more trouble.

**ktani** · June 14th, 2008, 05:17 PM

chloeishere

I remember your results and I reread the posts - you got some nice lightening using Fox's shea butter recipe, which contains 1 parts shea butter.

However, shea butter alone did not work out for someone else who tried it at 50:50 shea butter to honey with added water - there was a problem with the condition of the hair and not much lightening.

You accidently lightened your hair even more - you add extra conditioner to your recipe.

I agree with you - conditioner provided extra water that diluted the honey.

Honey and conditioner was reported to work to lighten hair in a number of cases.

The results however do not compare to the reported results of the 4 to 1 dilution without the added bulk, IMO.

I do not recommend heating a honey lightening recipe at any time to any degree or bulking it up.

Heat can negatively affect peroxide and lower the amount even if it does not completely decompose it.

Anything that replaces a part of the 4 parts water of the dilution, shortens the amount needed to get the maximum peroxide level of the honey.

**BrianaFineHair** · June 14th, 2008, 05:20 PM

I wonder, IF there were a way, to recline back in a chair (like at the salon) and just completely soak your head for an hour in the basin full of the mixture or have someone constantly running the mixture through your hair while reclined catching the run off in the basin. While at it, get a pedicure or manucure...maybe a facial.

I'm just thinking...

**ktani** · June 14th, 2008, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by BrianaFineHair

She's dripping and I'm misting.

The reason I did not want to use the cling wrap is I feel it would be harder to tell when she is drying, thus needing more mist. All of the unwrapping...wrapping back...just seems like more trouble.

BrianaFineHair

You are confusing 2 distinct honey lightening methods.

Wrapping the hair in plastic after a 4 parts water to 1 part honey recipe is applied to the hair ensures a constant moisture level for the hour and does not need to be unwrapped until the hour is over.

Misting the hair without the use of plastic to keep the hair wet during the hour is another option.

I recommend the plastic bag or wrap - it provides an uninterruped moisture level that allows the recipe to do its work.

**Alley Cat** · June 14th, 2008, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by BrianaFineHair

I wonder, IF there were a way, to recline back in a chair (like at the salon) and just completely soak your head for an hour in the basin full of the mixture or have someone constantly running the mixture through your hair while reclined catching the run off in the basin. While at it, get a pedicure or manucure...maybe a facial.

I'm just thinking...

If I did that I would need a trip to the physio after to fix a sore neck.

I have thought about lying in a bath for an hour , but who has an hour to waste lying in a bath.

**ktani** · June 14th, 2008, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by BrianaFineHair

I wonder, IF there were a way, to recline back in a chair (like at the salon) and just completely soak your head for an hour in the basin full of the mixture or have someone constantly running the mixture through your hair while reclined catching the run off in the basin. While at it, get a pedicure or manucure...maybe a facial.

I'm just thinking...

BrianaFineHair

That would be possible - not the most practical idea for most people, but possible - provided the hair was kept wet at the top the whole time.

I still think the plastic bag or wrap is the best method.