Honey thread - from TBB and bits from old LHC

[ktani]

My hair conditions are good it feels soft and nice and very shiny.
The only thing I did not pay attention to,was the use of distilled water.

Gabriel and flapjack how do you apply the mix on your hair?Yesterday I did a big mess and I had a lot of dripping using a spritz bottle,I think next time I will use the cotton ball again

ktani ....there is a gel I make with linseeds,that is very slimy and I'd like to know if I can put it in the mix,of course when it is cold.

Sissilonghair

Thank you for the reply on the condition of your hair - I am very pleased for you that it is so good.

The recommendation of using distilled water is new - I posted about it before but I am recommending it now after rereading the research.

Linseeds or flax seeds are high in antioxidants - not a good idea in a honey lightening recipe.

"Linseed ... Common Flax Flax Seed ...."
http://www.herbs2000.com/herbs/herbs_linseed.htm

"Flax seed .... rich in antioxidants ...."
http://www.dietaryfiberfood.com/Flax-seed.php

Hydrogen peroxide oxidizes antioxidants and is depleted in doing so - just as it does with Vitamin C, which is also an antioxidant - the higher the level of antioxidants - the more peroxide is depleted in oxidizing them.

In this case you would be working against what you are trying to do - lighten your hair.

I do not recommend bulking up the recipes.

The more things added to a recipe that are not helpful to its function - the greater the risk of problems, IMO.

[Sissilonghair]

Thanks for answering me ktani,but if there is anything to put in the mix to make it thicker please let us know,because the dripping is a pain....XD

[ktani]

Sissilonghair

You could try firebird's honey lightening recipe with cassia, cinnamon and EVOO but it is not a thick recipe - the cassia is there to condition.
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...&postcount=489

The recipe is supposed to be drippy - but it only lasts an hour vs the old dilutions - which took much longer to achieve the results reported with the 4 to 1 dilution.

[Alley Cat]

Ktani I bought some water today but am not sure if it's the right sort it says natural spring water.

It's nutrition information says
Typical Analysis mg/L

Bicarbonate 15

Sodium 3

Chloride 2

Magnesium Less than 1

Calcium Less than 1

Potassium Less than 1


I couldn't see anything in the supermarket that said distilled water they all said either pure or spring water. Maybe I was looking in the wrong place.

[ktani]

Alley Cat

Natural spring water is not distilled water.

You have a nice pure drinking water though.

It needs to say distilled water.

Your drugstore may have distilled water.

It is the kind of water they sell for steam irons but you need to read the label to make sure nothing is added to it - some water for appliances is not pure distilled water apparently.

"Natural spring water is water .... from .... natural springs in the earth. This water .... rich in minerals and trace elements. .... tested for quality .... not processed like drinking water because this would remove many of its beneficial minerals.
Distilled water has had all of its minerals and trace elements removed by distillation .... steaming the water and then allowing the steam to cool and turn back into water."
http://chetday.com/springwater.htm

I did find this - shipping supply places in Tasmania sell distilled water.
http://www.tasshipping.com.au/deck&engine/

Aquarium stores should carry it - plant stores too.

[Alley Cat]

Alley Cat

Natural spring water is not distilled water.

You have a nice pure drinking water though.

It needs to say distilled water.

Your drugstore may have distilled water.

It is the kind of water they sell for steam irons but you need to read the label to make sure nothing is added to it - some water for appliances is not pure distilled water apparently.

"Natural spring water is water .... from .... natural springs in the earth. This water .... rich in minerals and trace elements. .... tested for quality .... not processed like drinking water because this would remove many of its beneficial minerals.
Distilled water has had all of its minerals and trace elements removed by distillation .... steaming the water and then allowing the steam to cool and turn back into water."
http://chetday.com/springwater.htm

I did find this - shipping supply places in Tasmania sell distilled water.
http://www.tasshipping.com.au/deck&engine/

Aquarium stores should carry it - plant stores too.

Thanks ktani.
Oh well I will look again.

[ktani]

Alley Cat

I had emailed both Jarrah honey suppliers - only one emailed back - they do have Jarrah honey in stock.

[ktani]

Alley Cat

I emailed the supplier back asking about stores in Tasmania for you.

Waiting to hear back - pm on the way.

I want you to have first option before I post their information again - now that I know that they have stock - because of your water difficulties and because I suggested Jarrah honey honey to you, since you cannot use the peroxide boosters at this time.

I do not know how much of a Jarrah honey shortage they have because of the drought - whether their stock is currently limited.

I will be posting their contact information, website and prices - and the links to those. The prices are very reasonable, IMO. Jarrah honey is not expensive at all. I am not sure at this point - but have enquired - whether you can order direct and if they ship internationally - they supply retail outlets in Australia.

I told them about the Honey thread and sent them a link - as a courtesy - they should know IMO, where their information is being posted - and that I do not want or expect anything from them in exchange for posting their information.

The fact that they graciously replied to my email is evidence to me that they understand what customer service means - they replied in a few days to an inquiry about stock - not an order. I am impressed so far.

[ktani]

3 honeys stand out to me for different reasons - 2 for medicinal use - UMF manuka honey and thyme honey.

UMF 10+ manuka honey worked for me on the beginning of a toenail infection - it cleared it up in less than 24 hours.

Thyme honey is recommended for H. pylori, although it is not a standard recognized treatment at this time.

Manuka honey is expensive - I do not think it is necessary at all for honey lightening.

Thyme honey has a low peroxide value - it is not recommended for honey lightening either. What makes it successful againt H. pylori in vitro is its pH and osmolarity. It is not expensive.

And the third honey - Jarrah honey.

I do recommend it for honey lightenng. It is inexpensive and best of all, it has a very high peroxide value.

There will be - hopefully - a new "crop" of Jarrah honey soon.

When I hear back from Alley Cat about what she wishes to do - I will post the information about where Jarrah honey can currently be purchased for a very reasonable price - in Australia for sure - I am waiting to hear back about international shipping and direct ordering.

[Alley Cat]

Alley Cat

I had emailed both Jarrah honey suppliers - only one emailed back - they do have Jarrah honey in stock.

Thanks for that.

Alley Cat

I emailed the supplier back asking about stores in Tasmania for you.

Waiting to hear back - pm on the way.

I want you to have first option before I post their information again - now that I know that they have stock - because of your water difficulties and because I suggested Jarrah honey honey to you, since you cannot use the peroxide boosters at this time.

I do not know how much of a Jarrah honey shortage they have because of the drought - whether their stock is currently limited.

I will be posting their contact information, website and prices - and the links to those. The prices are very reasonable, IMO. Jarrah honey is not expensive at all. I am not sure at this point - but have enquired - whether you can order direct and if they ship internationally - they supply retail outlets in Australia.

I told them about the Honey thread and sent them a link - as a courtesy - they should know IMO, where their information is being posted - and that I do not want or expect anything from them in exchange for posting their information.

The fact that they graciously replied to my email is evidence to me that they understand what customer service means - they replied in a few days to an inquiry about stock - not an order. I am impressed so far.

Yes they are more courteous than the first company who haven't replied at all .
Thank you for all your enquiries.

3 honeys stand out to me for different reasons - 2 for medicinal use - UMF manuka honey and thyme honey.

UMF 10+ manuka honey worked for me on the beginning of a toenail infection - it cleared it up in less than 24 hours.

Thyme honey is recommended for H. pylori, although it is not a standard recognized treatment at this time.

Manuka honey is expensive - I do not think it is necessary at all for honey lightening.

Thyme honey has a low peroxide value - it is not recommended for honey lightening either. What makes it successful againt H. pylori in vitro is its pH and osmolarity. It is not expensive.

And the third honey - Jarrah honey.

I do recommend it for honey lightenng. It is inexpensive and best of all, it has a very high peroxide value.

There will be - hopefully - a new "crop" of Jarrah honey soon.

When I hear back from Alley Cat about what she wishes to do - I will post the information about where Jarrah honey can currently be purchased for a very reasonable price - in Australia for sure - I am waiting to hear back about international shipping and direct ordering.

I actually have some Manuka honey I picked some up here on sale for $6.00 for 500g so it wasn't dear at all for me. I am still looking around here for Jarrah . I went through my last 500g pretty fast having done about 6 treatments so far so I am not bothered if I have 2 lots. I can use one for eating if that's the case. I want to check out a store I think may possibly have some as it carries different lines . I will be there on Monday.