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    I wear my hair up always now, and I do think it's really helping me avoid damage, however having my hair always straight back makes me feel a little dowdy (my look tends to be a little eccentric/rock n' roll and as elegant as a chignon is I just don't always want that look).

    Currently I'm experimenting with using rat rolls and bumpits, and false hair to add volume without teasing, waiting for some false bangs to arrive (which I will cut to modify) and doing my updos a little looser/softer.

    I love the look of Edwardian updos and beehives (I'm planning to make a big rat to use to create those with no teasing)

    I love a big dramatic look, and I'd love to find ways to protect my hair that incorporate the dramatic style I adore.

    Here are some fun Edwardian ones which should be doable with hair pieces instead of teasing:


    http://americanduchess.blogspot.com/...es-solved.html and some more here



    I'd love to figure out a way to do this by pinning hair over a hair piece, and then pinning the curls
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    I have NO IDEA how to style straight hair, but I got curious about how to do some big updos without teasing. Here's one LHC-friendly one I found:

    Mostly giant pin curling:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X72_1cOARX8
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    I know how to do styles like the one you are asking about. You place a round hair piece to the back of the crown. Braiding the section you are pinning over and tucking it under the hair peice will give you a solid platform to pin the hair piece to so it does not move. Hair eicepIt has to have a good bit of length - I'd say at least 12 inches. You can tease and hairspray the dickens out of it till stiff before pinning it on. If its synthetic, don't expect to get it back the way it was - just keep it as a beehive hair form. Your own hair you will want to roll on large curlers with jell and let dry. Just lay the curls up over the teased hair piece and spray into place. You use a hairdryer to set the spray, It has to be a super-hold spray. Actually the last spray I was using for this stuff was made by white rain.

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    Totally doable with a rat instead of teasing. Can make it even bigger with a giant rat and saving some hair along the hairline to do pin curls onto the main structure. And, of course, pomade instead of spray.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMm81fPJ08E
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    I have a couple of those doughnut things which I've used on top of my head before to create a Marie Antoinette inspired do. Admittedly my hair isn't that long but even then it looked pretty impressive for a Hogmanay party! Your Edwardian style ones will be exactly the same. Practice and you'll soon be able to do them easily.

    I'll try and rake out a picture. As posters have said - the base has to be firm. Usually a crown braid is a good base to pile hair on top of. Then use a rat (or those doughnut thingies)
    I put half of my hair through the middle of the doughnut on top of my head and pinned it to the outside, then put the hair around my head up and pinned on the outside to disguise rats. Easy enough really. Once my hair is longer, I'll be doing it again for more height. Then add ostentatious jewellery, hair clips and gems and veils!


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    what my mom would make with a hair piece and some heavy spray was essentially a huge hair-rat that was re-usuable. She had a number of these. She special made them for her clients I've even seen her add chicken wire to the structure for truly huge styles that was sewn to the hair-peace base. These were usually for competition hair shows and were extremely elaborate. You round it and mold it into the shape. Back then the spray they used was actually a lacquer so it was much more stiff.

    ETA: Skychild: lovely updo there

    I hate my hubby threw away my hair rats. He did not know what these furrballs were when he moved it I was livid. I had some truly huge old-style ones made by matting my own hair fall between my fingers and over time adding to it.

    Women used to keep a vase on their beauty stand to collect their hair fall into to use for different things such as making rats. To me natural rats work much better than plastic ones. Mainly because you can always re-shape them - work the ends together and things like that.

    I've been shying away from doing these styles because of the damage involved - well products. I just don't trust anything with alcohol and such in it on my hair.

    Hopefully I will get around to uploading my mom's old hair drawings she did. Some of them are quite fascinating. They are all bee-hives and updo's from years ago she drew them back in the 50's and 60's. I have some pics of her styles she did.. maybe upload them now that would be fun. BRB with that.

    posted em as a blog http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/entry.php?b=116465
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    That was interesting RosaHarris. I remember hairstyles like that.

    ETA: Quick and dirty translation of the french in the article MadeiraD put up. French-speaking members feel free to correct. I bolded the part with the actual instructions. Notice how even a hundred years ago, they really recommend fake hair:

    'Greek style has not only invaded the domain of city fashions and interior decorating; its influence is being seen on hairstyles. Evening hairstyles are now low, with ample wavy sections and the knot or Greek chignon rolled up softly on the neck. This new type of hairstyle needs new types of hair ornaments and so we see ‘bandelettes’, lace galloon in gold or silver, and crowns of leaves finishing off the classic look of our elegant ladies. The chignon is placed a little higher or lower according to which way better suits the wearer’s profile and the entire silhouette, but the front and sides of the hairstyle remain soft and make a soft halo around the face. For all of these styles, the hair is generally parted into three sections. The section behind is gathered together with an elastic (they say ‘cordon’) or held up with tortoise shell pins (bobby pins weren’t invented yet). The two front sections whether forming bands or made bouffant are pulled over a rat or simply held in place by combs. In certain cases, once the front has been arranged, the back is taken out and all of the hair formed into a Greek style knot, as our illustrations show. A low coiffure isn’t suitable for certain face shapes, while a high coiffure suits everyone, which is the reason that it remains stylish. The illustrations show several charming examples, which are created by placing rats on the top of the head and covering them completely (with hair). This style is recommended for those with stronger features or when you are wearing wide brimmed hats. In this case, it’s best to part the hair on top of the head, take a lock of hair and braid it making a solid foundation for the rest of the style. Once the rat has been attached at this place, you can lift up the rest of the hair around it and makes large curls, a knot, a roll or a braid to finish the style. The latest type of rats and artificial bouffants are so lightweight that they can be used with endangering your hair, they don’t make your head feel hot and they are not heavy. But they add a lot of solidity and permit you to create flattering styles. It is better to use these than to tease your own hair or to curl it too often.'
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    They are called Hair Receivers and I have one. I went to a garage sale a while back where one was for sale. Since I was the ONLY person he met who what the heck it was and how it was used, the fellow gave it to me. How awesome is that?!


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    Skychild: lovely updo there

    I hate my hubby threw away my hair rats. He did not know what these furrballs were when he moved it I was livid. I had some truly huge old-style ones made by matting my own hair fall between my fingers and over time adding to it.

    Women used to keep a vase on their beauty stand to collect their hair fall into to use for different things such as making rats. To me natural rats work much better than plastic ones. Mainly because you can always re-shape them - work the ends together and things like that.

    I've been shying away from doing these styles because of the damage involved - well products. I just don't trust anything with alcohol and such in it on my hair.

    Hopefully I will get around to uploading my mom's old hair drawings she did. Some of them are quite fascinating. They are all bee-hives and updo's from years ago she drew them back in the 50's and 60's. I have some pics of her styles she did.. maybe upload them now that would be fun. BRB with that.
    My routine has changed since starting to use Rogaine regularly to try to regain some thickness. I still cleanse every other day, but I use T/Sal shampoo, followed by my beloved Suave Wild Cherry conditioner. A vinegar rinse and catnip leave in follow.

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    I bought a big bundle of kanekalon to make rats out of (husband is too grossed out by real shed hair )

    I intend to be thought elegant, glamorous and extremely vulgar, because nothing is so glamorous as vulgarity, and there is nothing so vulgar as elegance.

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    My God I love those....
    When my hair was much longer I did a pompadour style bun a number of times. Very cool if your hair is full and dense but way too fine to wear down.
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