Sticky heavy roots\scalp? Just started co-washing help:)

**lole18** · November 12th, 2013, 05:49 PM

I used to shampoo my hair with an SLS free shampoo 2 timesa week i recently switched to shampooing once and co-washing 1-2 times a week i tried 2 silicone free conditioners but my hair is still REALLY sticky and heavy (scalp and first 2-4 inches of my hair) i have fine very THIN DRYYY wavy\curly damaged hair and normal scalp it isn't that oily.. I don't want to get back to shampooing twice a week i feel like my hair is starting to get more moisturized

what can i do to help with this problem? It's really disgusting how sticky and heavy it feels! Would co-washing more help with it? Or should i co-wash less? Or maybe just use the onditioner on the entire length without touching the scalp maybe that's what's making it sticky and heavy? Or should i use ACV for a couple of hours before co-washing? I don't know what to do! Help me

**lole18** · November 12th, 2013, 06:27 PM

please help i feel dirty lol

**ExpectoPatronum** · November 12th, 2013, 06:37 PM

What conditioner are you using? Does it contain protein? Protein in conditioners makes my hair feel icky. You also might have to COwash more often. If I'm shampooing, I can wash every other day. If I'm COwashing, I have to do it every day or else my scalp and roots get too icky for my conditioner to properly clean.

**DweamGoiL** · November 12th, 2013, 06:45 PM

I tried CG for about a month and I had the same problem. You could try shampooing with an SLS free shampoo once a week and CO washing the other time. You need to make sure your conditioner is really light. I have fine hair also and I usually don't apply conditioner to my scalp, but once I detangle my length, I make sure to detangle from the roots so what is on the comb gets to the crown. This way my hair doesn't get weighed down, but it gets the moisture it needs.

**McFearless** · November 12th, 2013, 07:16 PM

Try applying the conditioner to your roots 15 minutes prior to your shower. Then hop in, pour a little water over your head for lather and massage the conditioner into your scalp, applying more to the length. Finish up your shower and then rinse. If your hair still feels sticky and heavy I'd look for another product.

**lole18** · November 13th, 2013, 02:18 AM

I still didn't get what to do some people are telling me to co-wash more and some are telling me to co-wash less! Which should I do? I used tresemme naturals silicone free conditioner and suave apple silicone free conditioner both gave me the same result and no neither of them has proteins

**donnalouise** · November 13th, 2013, 02:35 AM

I tried co-washing and had disastrous results. I much prefer stretching my washes as long as possible and using a low/no sulphate shampoo in very tiny quantities. Instead of solely co-washing, if it doesn't work for you, you could try using less and less shampoo each time, perhaps dilute your shampoo with water. Eventually you may find yourself transitioning into co-washing. For me, it just didn't work well and i need the shampoo to make my hair look and feel it's best, but i only wash once every 5 days at the moment and only with a tiny blob of shampoo, but i doubt i'll ever put conditioner on my scalp again - for me it's conditioner strictly on the lengths of my hair only.

**Zebra Fish** · November 13th, 2013, 02:52 AM

I never had problems with greasy scalp/hair untill I tried CO-wash. I gave it a go for 2 moths, and then just got back to shampoo once a week and my scalp is more "dirty" (from dust and other stuff thet gets cought in hair) than actaly greasy (with CO I had to wash every 3-4 days coz I was sooooo greasy). I'm using sulphate free shampoo and diluiting it before apply, while coating my lenghts in conditioner (ears down more or less) - adn my scalp and hair are happy

I'd say give it a try, as far as I've read you need some time to adjust to it, but even if it makes wonders for others be prepared to accept that maybe your scalp doenst like conditioner.

**sarahthegemini** · November 13th, 2013, 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by lole18

I used to shampoo my hair with an SLS free shampoo 2 timesa week i recently switched to shampooing once and co-washing 1-2 times a week i tried 2 silicone free conditioners but my hair is still REALLY sticky and heavy (scalp and first 2-4 inches of my hair) i have fine very THIN DRYYY wavy\curly damaged hair and normal scalp it isn't that oily.. I don't want to get back to shampooing twice a week i feel like my hair is starting to get more moisturized

what can i do to help with this problem? It's really disgusting how sticky and heavy it feels! Would co-washing more help with it? Or should i co-wash less? Or maybe just use the onditioner on the entire length without touching the scalp maybe that's what's making it sticky and heavy? Or should i use ACV for a couple of hours before co-washing? I don't know what to do! Help me

It sounds like you're not co-washing properly or you are using conditioners that aren't suitable for washing. So doing it more or less won't help, it'll just mean you have those same results either more frequently or less frequently. What is your actual method for co-washing?

I think ACV is used after washing to smooth the cuticle, so I can't imagine using it prior to washing would have any benefit. I don't understand what you mean in the bolded part - if you don't use conditioner on the scalp, then that isn't co-washing.

If you explain what your co-washing steps are, we could help with more specifics

**Firefox7275** · November 14th, 2013, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by lole18

I used to shampoo my hair with an SLS free shampoo 2 timesa week i recently switched to shampooing once and co-washing 1-2 times a week i tried 2 silicone free conditioners but my hair is still REALLY sticky and heavy (scalp and first 2-4 inches of my hair) i have fine very THIN DRYYY wavy\curly damaged hair and normal scalp it isn't that oily.. I don't want to get back to shampooing twice a week i feel like my hair is starting to get more moisturized

what can i do to help with this problem? It's really disgusting how sticky and heavy it feels! Would co-washing more help with it? Or should i co-wash less? Or maybe just use the onditioner on the entire length without touching the scalp maybe that's what's making it sticky and heavy? Or should i use ACV for a couple of hours before co-washing? I don't know what to do! Help me

Conditioner only washing doesn't work for everyone with fine hair, others find their sebum production takes time to adjust so need to wash more frequently initially. Technique and product selection are critical. You would need to do more than simply avoid silicones, at the minimum your wash product should be rich in emulsifiers (cationic surfactants and/ or fatty alcohols), light on oils butters and waxes including cetyl esters. Many cannot use protein at the root area either. Tresemme Naturals is too rich/ heavy for some to use as a co-wash and feel clean.

Technique wise check out YouTube. Personally I use WAY more product (Inecto conditioner) that any tutorial I have seen, massage until I work up a light lather, rinse with more massage until my hair is literally 'squeaky' clean (not stripped squeaky like shampoo but way more rinsing than when conditioning). I also wash with my head upside down so I can easily get to the scalp, I used to do the 'soak' step with co-washing but dropped that once my technique improved.