I don't think I agree with our thickness classification system.

**SpeakingEZ** · April 3rd, 2011, 11:01 AM

There is a considerable difference in thickness between a ii in the 2-3" range and a ii in the 3-4" range. I'm in the 2-3" range and there are plenty of ii's that look like they have twice as much hair as I do. They can do much different hairstyles than I can and hemlines look different. One braid on me looks dinky, let alone double braids that I've seen some ii's pull of looking just fantastic!

In short, I am in favor of further distinction.

**Debra83** · April 3rd, 2011, 11:16 AM

I'm a little confused by it myself. I have fine hair, but LOTS of it, but my ponytail is thin when I squish it all together!

**NouvelleNymphe2** · April 3rd, 2011, 11:22 AM

I totally agree with what OP is saying. That is why I label myself a i/ii. The last time I measure my pony it was a 2.5,'' which I believe is on the low end of ii. But then I see other iis who seem to have a massive amount of hair! I feel like I would be ridiculous to put a ii distinction if this person's hair type is a ii thickness distinction. I think i ii iii and iv might be more accurate. Or perhaps a iia and iib?

**pepperminttea** · April 3rd, 2011, 11:23 AM

I must admit, it would seem more logical just to be able to type the ponytail circumference measurement, rather than the category it fits into.

**MoonlightShadow** · April 3rd, 2011, 11:26 AM

can anyone explain the thickness classification system? please

**jaine** · April 3rd, 2011, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by NouvelleNymphe2

I totally agree with what OP is saying. That is why I label myself a i/ii. The last time I measure my pony it was a 2.5,'' which I believe is on the low end of ii. But then I see other iis who seem to have a massive amount of hair! I feel like I would be ridiculous to put a ii distinction if this person's hair type is a ii thickness distinction. I think i ii iii and iv might be more accurate. Or perhaps a iia and iib?

I wonder if some of it is just wave-related volume? For example my hair looks huge in this pic but it's actually just waves poofing it up. My ponytail circumference was 2.75" when I took this picture.
Someone with straight hair might appear to have less volume even if our ponytail circumferences are very similar.

**jaine** · April 3rd, 2011, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by pepperminttea

I must admit, it would seem more logical just to be able to type the ponytail circumference measurement, rather than the category it fits into.

I like that idea. There's a huuuuuge difference between 2" and 4" even though they fall into the same category.

You can calculate circle area based on circumference: http://www.calculatorsoup.com/calcul...ane/circle.php
a 2" circumference is 0.32 inches squared.
a 4" circumference is 1.27 inches squared.

So a 4" circumference is 4 times more hair than 2" circumference!!

**spidermom** · April 3rd, 2011, 11:30 AM

I agree. I'm right at the edge of ii/iii in thickness (3.8 at last measurement). But I put iii because of the appearance and because I don't want the 2-inch ii to compare his/her hair to mine. ("What? Spidey's a ii? What's wrong with my ii hair?!")

**~~ericthegreat~~** · April 3rd, 2011, 11:50 AM

I think that the ii category should definitely be subdivided further. There is definitely a huge difference in both the appearance and actual feel of hair that is say 3.9 inches of circumference to hair that is only right on the dot of 2 inches in circumference. Also, the criteria for thin/medium/thick hair should also be revised. To say that only people who are a solid iii can be considered to have thick hair is really very limiting. I definitely think that people on the higher side of ii with say 3.8 or 3.9 inches of circumference should also be included in the thick hair category.

**princessp** · April 3rd, 2011, 11:51 AM

I'm a solid iii (4.5" measure last year) so my hair is thick, but I'm in there with people who have crazy thick hair (in a good way). First person I can think of is Ultrabella. My hair is definitely not as thick as theirs. I think if you have 5"+ your hair should be called crazy thick (lol just kidding) it really is very different than a 4"-4.5" though. SO the same is true on the other end of the spectrum. I'm wondering does thickness appear differently on different heights? Maybe there should be a height to thickness ratio ((okay that is maybe going a little too far).

With all that said thanks to this post I re-measured and my hair and it has somehow thickened since last year it is now closer to 5" (about 4.8"). So I guess this number can change.