To make a Spock bun with no thumb, start with the Spock Vulcan salute. Then bring the pony tail up through the two parted fingers, go under the the two fingers to the front of the head. Next start wrapping around the base of the bun very loosely actually forming a cinnabun around the base of the loop. Do not make a compact base stem like in a nautilus. To anchor, put the stick through the loop around the fingers and push up through the far edge of the cinnabun. Very quick and very easy.
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