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    Don't be so self critical goddess to think that you won't be beautiful at 30. 30 is still young, '55' is classed as middle aged, which is still young! Look at all the women on here 30+. I'm not putting words in your mouth goddess, I'm not saying you said that people over 30 can't be cute, I know you didn't mean that. But for those who perceived it that way and got offended, you can be cute at whatever age. My mum turned 40 this year and she is absolutely beautiful, just as beautiful as when she was 24 and had me. The only thing that you get with age in my opinion, is more graceful. Just wanted to say this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unicorn View Post
    She's wearing a huge wig, make-up to make herself look plastic, clothes and shoes that make her look even smaller than she is naturally, posed to do likewise and photo shopped to exaggerate the effect further. Basically she has actively aimed to create photos that change her proportions to an unnatural state, while remaining close enough to what is possible to fool the eye at first glance.

    Of course people are going to analyse something that just isn't "sitting right" in their brain, while not having any obvious explanation at first glance. She has created this and put it in a public place for attention, she has what she set out to achieve. I don' see that anyone on the thread deserves to be chastised for being human and responding to the deliberately created visual effects.

    Personally I find many of those pictures deeply disturbing. Disturbing enough to believe that some of them breach LHC rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aderyn View Post
    Well said! Would like to add that the subculture this person belongs to is notoriously vicious about appearance. It's easy to just simplify the issue down to her "being skinny" and dismiss all of the criticisms as malicious bitching (thanks for the ad hominems?), but that utterly fails to take into account the context of the situation at hand. This isn't the same as going up to a random stranger you know absolutely nothing about and saying, "you look anorexic!" It's all about context.

    I would also like to point out that the original post of this thread specifically emphasized the looking tiny part; "I want hair that just overwhelms my body I want to look tiny under it." Like you said, it is unnatural, whether it be the wig, the photoshop, whatever, and it is completely human to recognize that is unnatural.

    We know there are problems in society about criticizing skinny people and dismissing skinny people as not beautiful (i.e. "real women have curves"), though I don't see how saying this person, the subject of this thread, is skinny is in anyway comparable to that, and to lump them together just seems to be a way of conflating the issue at hand.

    ETA: If you had someone in the same situation who was overweight or obese, having people say they wanted their body to dwarf their hair, who thinned out their hair (or put on a really thin wig) to make it look smaller, etc. (Just imagine the exact "reverse" of this situation, I guess). and people decided to criticize that - would you have such a problem, because I'd be as vocal about my criticism then as I am now? Why is it only when it's skinny people that it's a problem? Once again, it's all about context - you need to understand this is a very specific, unique situation.

    I have experienced skinny-bashing and issues over my weight (and lack thereof), and it sticks in my mind enough that I've fallen out with old friends over "real women have curves" posts. I firmly believe both skinny bashing and fat-bashing are as bad as each other as I see them both happening and both sides get just as hurt. I know. I've been there (when I finally gained enough weight to put me at a healthy BMI and stop the comments from the rest of the world, my mum started suggesting to me to lose weight).
    However, talking about weight can save lives, and I'm not meaning someone's natural weight (which can be small for some and large for others), but when it spirals to something life-threatening, or life-ruining - as in an anorexic that is a few pounds from their body giving up, or a morbidly obese person with diabetes, high risk of heart attack and stroke.
    All that said, I still have to agree with what's been said. This isn't a debate about bashing real people. It's about the obvious attempts, because of the doll-like appearance that is aimed for, to look in a way that some people might aspire to but many will not be able to attain. The circle-lenses, fake hair, poses, clothes and photoshop to make her seem smaller. It is all about context. I find it particularly disturbing, not because of the skinniness (in her videos, she looks naturally thin and small boned), but because of the child-like appearance. Most especially, the large child-like eyes set in an adult face. A perfect, made-up adult face, and childlike eyes made with circle lenses and white eyeliner, but still an adult face and childlike eyes. The big dress. It disturbs me because as much as it means to emulate dolls, to me, it looks disturbingly like a sexualised child. It's probably not meant to, but that's what I see and I have difficulty with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigereye View Post
    Snip... A perfect, made-up adult face, and childlike eyes made with circle lenses and white eyeliner, but still an adult face and childlike eyes. The big dress. It disturbs me because as much as it means to emulate dolls, to me, it looks disturbingly like a sexualised child. It's probably not meant to, but that's what I see and I have difficulty with that.
    These are the aspects I find disturbing, one or two of the photos I came across were seriously unhealthy. (and I don't mean her weight)

    I grew up very thin, with everyone and his dog wanting to fatten me up. In truth I think people are overly sensitive to criticism these days, I didn't give the time of day to people who told me I was too thin, from childhood through to my thirties. I was in no way traumatised by random peoples opinions, it was just boring. No matter what you look like, you can find someone who likes it and someone who doesn't. That's life, why focus on the negative group when the positive group is just as valid?

    My body functioned well, I was not only healthy, but athletic and very strong. I certainly didn't consider trading the ability to skip effortlessly around life, with hefting a heavy body around and force feeding myself to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoddess View Post
    of course I can grow knee length hair, but it would take too many years I'd probably be 30 by the time it gets there and I'd be too old to pull of the cute long haired doll look
    Don't despair - I'm 30 (almost 31 even, lol) and I can still pull off the cute doll look and probably will be able to do so a few more years...

    ETA
    I read the rest of the thread past the first page after commenting, and indeed face shape has a lot to do with how well one can pull certain looks... I have a round "chubby" face shape, which is probably a big part of being able to pull off a "cute" look, but makes it very hard to get the serious look needed for job interviews and such

    If it's a look you like and you're not sure you will be able to pull it off when your hair gets as long as you want naturally, then by all means buy the wig and contact lenses, after all we only live once, so why not have fun along the way?

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    That girl's hair is gorgeous (even though it's a wig) and looks so nice in the video of her visiting Paris.... I wish I could have such thick hair naturally...
    Last edited by Night_Kitten; April 8th, 2014 at 02:19 PM.



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