Crisdee have you tried putting it up when it's wet or damp? That's the only way I can get freshly washed hair to stay up in a peacock twist or French twist. Have you tried securing it with claw clips instead of a fork? Some toys are more secure than others. Or a sock bun might work on freshly washed dry hair because it's more secure, although I have not tried it yet since I usually dry my hair in an updo after I wash it.