pride and envy

**auburn** · July 27th, 2011, 04:16 PM

Has it ever occured to you that hair drives one into a lot of sins and evil and harm to to us and those around? Of course, you'll say you just THINK, but thoughts are like burning coals, you can't hold them in your arms without getting burned.

Hair causes pride. And causes envy. Envy for those who have nicer hair, and also our own hair causes envy in souls of those around us.

Sure, it's cute to think sarcastic for a moment, but pride and envy really hurt souls.
That quote by ivana trump... "gorgeous hair is the best revenge" makes me think... hair cam be a weapon of revenge. That bad it can be, like a venomous snake. Makes it's poison sweet for the owner and bitter for the beholders.

Do you ever think of those things?

**gossamer** · July 27th, 2011, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by auburn

Hair causes pride. And causes envy. Envy for those who have nicer hair, and also our own hair causes envy in souls of those around us.

Looking at pictures of others' beautiful hair or styles just brings me joy, not envy. I am happy to see how talented or gorgeous other people are. Their beauty doesn't take anything away from mine, so why should I feel upset?

Hair doesn't cause anything. Our reactions to it cause envy and pride, or joy and love. Hair is hair.

**Dina L.** · July 27th, 2011, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by gossamer

Hair doesn't cause anything. Our reactions to it cause envy and pride, or joy and love. Hair is hair.

So true, so true!

**mallorykay13** · July 27th, 2011, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by gossamer

Looking at pictures of others' beautiful hair or styles just brings me joy, not envy. I am happy to see how talented or gorgeous other people are. Their beauty doesn't take anything away from mine, so why should I feel upset?

Hair doesn't cause anything. Our reactions to it cause envy and pride, or joy and love. Hair is hair.

I agree. It is human nature and peoples' personal feelings that causes these emotions.

**auburn** · July 27th, 2011, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by mallorykay13

I agree. It is human nature and peoples' personal feelings that causes these emotions.

feellings and emotions don't just come from air, it's looking at someone's hair that causes reactions/feelings about hair.

so you all basically say that vanity/pride/envy ARE HARMELESS?

**mallorykay13** · July 27th, 2011, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by auburn

feellings and emotions don't just come from air, it's looking at someone's hair that causes reactions/feelings about hair.

so you all basically say that vanity/pride/envy ARE HARMELESS?

Absolutely not. I am saying it is not the hair itself, rather it is the viewer.

**gossamer** · July 27th, 2011, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by auburn

so you all basically say that vanity/pride/envy ARE HARMELESS?

Phew, let's take some deep breaths here...

I don't think anyone has said that these are harmless states of mind. They are definitely negative emotional states, harmful to ourselves and to other people.

But what I think we're trying to make clear is that they are caused by our choices on how to react to things we see.

Nothing can make you or I feel a certain way. If my friend has lovely curls (she does, I was admiring them last night!) I have a few options in my mind about how to react to them.
-I can decide I'm ugly because I don't have curls (negative).
-I can become jealous and try to put her down in some way (also negative).
-I can become proud that I have long hair and she doesn't. (arbitrary, petty, and also negative.)
OR
-I can compliment her! (positive)
-I can enjoy the fact that we're out together and we both have pretty hair (positive)
-I can take joy in the diversity of hair types, from her shiny brown curls to my thinner, light brown straight hair. (positive)

The point is, these are emotional choices I made because I am a conscious human being, capable of thinking through my emotions.

The emotions of envy, pride and vanity happen in our heads, not because of things external acting upon us. (Or because of what's on our heads.

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**teal** · July 27th, 2011, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by gossamer

Nothing can make you or I feel a certain way. If my friend has lovely curls (she does, I was admiring them last night!) I have a few options in my mind about how to react to them.
-I can decide I'm ugly because I don't have curls (negative).
-I can become jealous and try to put her down in some way (also negative).
-I can become proud that I have long hair and she doesn't. (arbitrary, petty, and also negative.)
OR
-I can compliment her! (positive)
-I can enjoy the fact that we're out together and we both have pretty hair (positive)
-I can take joy in the diversity of hair types, from her shiny brown curls to my thinner, light brown straight hair. (positive)

The point is, these are emotional choices I made because I am a conscious human being, capable of thinking through my emotions.

The emotions of envy, pride and vanity happen in our heads, not because of things external acting upon us. (Or because of what's on our heads.

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Exactly. Another person, his attributes and his actions are all beyond my control. My reactions to anything and everything are within my control. ETA: and if not within my control then within my responsibility, at least.

Originally Posted by auburn

so you all basically say that vanity/pride/envy ARE HARMELESS?

Making an incendiary blanket accusation and then failing to stay logged on to discuss?

Sounds to me like you're drifting dangerously close to trolling. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

**wtchmel** · July 28th, 2011, 01:37 AM

Ummm, wow, Okay, my first thought to this post was wtf? I'm sorry, but just being honest. and as far as the question posed, the answer is no, i don't feel any of these emotions. I feel enjoyment which is positive and good for the soul, if you will.

**beccababesx** · July 28th, 2011, 03:05 PM

Has it ever occurred to you, OP, that you are incurring wrath in me and my fellow LHCers with your post, and gluttony, as we all frantically eat cheese in order to calm everyone down?

Camembert, anyone?