CO 101 question

**ladiosaRosa** · October 27th, 2009, 08:24 AM

I have a goodly amount of Nexxus Humectress and Mane & Tail conditioners. I'm not thrilled with these as my second, richer conditioners when I CO. I like to use WREB and will settle for certain VO5's for the wash part of my CO but I'm wondering what the results would be if I washed with the Nexxus or Mane & Tail? I just want to use 'em up.

I've been COing exclusively since I joined TLHC and I should probably just go ahead and try this but it's more fun to come here and get feedback.

Thanks!

**RancheroTheBee** · October 27th, 2009, 12:10 PM

I've never used Nexxus, but I washed for a very long time with Mane N' Tail with a lot of success. Since it was fairly runny and lathered pretty well, it was not all that different from using an SLS-free shampoo for me. The only reason I don't use Mane N' Tail is because I used my weekly hair allowlance on Monistat.

And jojoba. And shea butter.

**ladiosaRosa** · October 27th, 2009, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by RancheroTheBee

I've never used Nexxus, but I washed for a very long time with Mane N' Tail with a lot of success. Since it was fairly runny and lathered pretty well, it was not all that different from using an SLS-free shampoo for me. The only reason I don't use Mane N' Tail is because I used my weekly hair allowlance on Monistat.

And jojoba. And shea butter.

All right then! thanks for the feedback, RancheroTheBee. Next CO.....I wash with Mane&Tail!

**Sissy** · October 27th, 2009, 01:53 PM

well, the conditioner Mane N Tail contains wax and protein right? If your hair OK with that it might work for CO. Personally, I didn't like Mane N' Tail and it would not work for CO washing on my hair. However, that doesn't mean it won't work for you.

**ladiosaRosa** · October 27th, 2009, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Sissy

well, the conditioner Mane N Tail contains wax and protein right? If your hair OK with that it might work for CO. Personally, I didn't like Mane N' Tail and it would not work for CO washing on my hair. However, that doesn't mean it won't work for you.

I was very unimpressed by Mane N Tail and the wax ingredient did cross my mind, Sissy. I'm encouraged by RancheroTheBee's observation however, that she got it to lather up. I'll just have to take the plunge and give it a try. I'll report back here on my results.

Thank you, Sissy.

Now, I need some feedback on the Nexxus. Anyone......??!!?

**Shermie Girl** · October 27th, 2009, 03:28 PM

I have tried Nexxus Humectress (didn't care for it, myself...) and IMO, it is a bit thick and rich for CO washing. Maybe you could mix it with a thinner, less rich conditioner for CO, ala Carolyn's Co mixes.

If it doesn't work for CO, you can use it for shaving.

**Sissy** · October 28th, 2009, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by ladiosaRosa

I was very unimpressed by Mane N Tail and the wax ingredient did cross my mind, Sissy. I'm encouraged by RancheroTheBee's observation however, that she got it to lather up. I'll just have to take the plunge and give it a try. I'll report back here on my results.

Thank you, Sissy.

Now, I need some feedback on the Nexxus. Anyone......??!!?

I've never tried Nexxus but look forward to hearing how you like the Mane N Tail. Like Shermie Girl said... you could always use them for shaving if they don't work out for anything else

**Silver Strands** · October 28th, 2009, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Sissy

well, the conditioner Mane N Tail contains wax and protein right? If your hair OK with that it might work for CO. Personally, I didn't like Mane N' Tail and it would not work for CO washing on my hair. However, that doesn't mean it won't work for you.

Mane 'n Tail contains "emulsifying wax" which isn't actually a wax in the sense that you're thinking of.
It allows other ingredients to blend together properly to improve texture and consistency.
Cetearyl alcohol and polysorbate 60 are found in many conditioners and are also considered "emulsifying wax".

I like Mane 'n Tail shampoo and conditioner but haven't used the conditioner yet for CO.
I think it would be a good one.

**ladiosaRosa** · October 29th, 2009, 07:52 PM

Well, I bit the bullet and CO washed with the Nexxus Humectress, last night. I don't consider it a real 'test' because I have two CO's worth of 'cones on my hair and I'd like to try washing with Nexxus again after I clarify.

Anyway, The pump on that great big bottle is awfully nice. It was like pulling teeth to get it to lather. I didn't look into a mirror and so maybe it never did lather. Also, I couldn't get an easy "squeek" out of my hair. But, that started happening two CO's ago when I used 'cones. I proceeded like usual. To 'finish up', I used less than 1/4 cup Shakai conditioner (I want to get rid of that one, too) with less than 1/4 tsp of the 'coney Caviar condish.

This morning, my hair was still damp from being in an overnight bun. I put it up into 4 pincurls and will take it down as I arrive at my evening destination.

Originally Posted by Sissy

I've never tried Nexxus but look forward to hearing how you like the Mane N Tail. Like Shermie Girl said... you could always use them for shaving if they don't work out for anything else

:blush: Don't do the leg shaving thing anymore; they're almost hairless andalways covered these days. Comes with age. Hope I'm not offending anyone. See above for Nexxus results for me.

Originally Posted by lindenblossom

I am currently using Mane n' Tail for CO and it is working really well!

Goody, I won't get to it for 2-3 CO's but I'm now looking forward to trying it. Thank you lindenblossom.

Originally Posted by Cinnamon Hair

For me the results would be a greasy looking scalp and maybe itchiness and flakes to go along with it. I haven't tried using those two conditioners in particular on my scalp, but that was my experience with other "good" conditioners. For CO to work my scalp conditioner has to be very runny, cone free, and easy to rinse. Doesn't hurt to try it and find out though. The worst that could happen is you need to wash again.

Or you could try using the conditioners in place of shaving gel. Or cover your hair with an ungodly amount of them for a deep conditioning treatment.

Nice to 'see' you again, Cinnamon Hair. I make it a point to not get any conditioner on my scalp when either CO washing or conditioning.....especially when it sits on my hair for 15 minutes +.
Of course, when I lather up my washing condish with, it does touch my scalp but it's diluted by then and not sitting for minutes or hours at a time.

Originally Posted by Silver Strands

Mane 'n Tail contains "emulsifying wax" which isn't actually a wax in the sense that you're thinking of.
It allows other ingredients to blend together properly to improve texture and consistency.
Cetearyl alcohol and polysorbate 60 are found in many conditioners and are also considered "emulsifying wax".

I like Mane 'n Tail shampoo and conditioner but haven't used the conditioner yet for CO.
I think it would be a good one.

Thank you for your input, Silver Strands. I would be hard pressed to find a conditioner that didn't contain Cetearyl alcohol and polysorbate 60, for sure. Even some of what they call the 'natural' ones. I've given up.

**Cinnamon Hair** · October 28th, 2009, 06:46 PM

For me the results would be a greasy looking scalp and maybe itchiness and flakes to go along with it. I haven't tried using those two conditioners in particular on my scalp, but that was my experience with other "good" conditioners. For CO to work my scalp conditioner has to be very runny, cone free, and easy to rinse. Doesn't hurt to try it and find out though. The worst that could happen is you need to wash again.

Or you could try using the conditioners in place of shaving gel. Or cover your hair with an ungodly amount of them for a deep conditioning treatment.