Nautilus vs. Pencil bun

[ravenheather]

Exactly what is the difference between these two buns? Also show some pics of either if you have them.

[gthlvrmx]

aren't they the same? a loop over the rest of the hair?
I thought they were the same but i prefer making them the pencil bun way because it holds better for me. trying the methods to do a nautilus online really just never worked for me and that baffles me because theyre very similar if no the same. :p

[ravenheather]

aren't they the same? a loop over the rest of the hair?
I thought they were the same but i prefer making them the pencil bun way because it holds better for me. trying the methods to do a nautilus online really just never worked for me and that baffles me because theyre very similar if no the same. :p

They look the same to me, that's why I was asking. I just wondered if I was missing something.

[curlsgalore]

I believe they "look" the same but are two different approaches at getting a similar look. I believe the pencil bun works easier for those with shorter hair/Or thicker hair that is not long enough for the looping/wrapping, whereas the "nautilus" bun is for longer hair (looping around the hand/wrist).....hope that makes sense. This is just my thoughts. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[ravenheather]

I believe they "look" the same but are two different approaches at getting a similar look. I believe the pencil bun works easier for those with shorter hair/Or thicker hair that is not long enough for the looping/wrapping, whereas the "nautilus" bun is for longer hair (looping around the hand/wrist).....hope that makes sense. This is just my thoughts. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

So the only difference is the pencil bun is wrapped around a finger or two and the nautilus is wrapped around your whole hand? That was the only difference I saw.

[Sylvestrix]

I'm on board with the pencil bun being slightly better for thick hair- I'm at BSL, and I can just manage a pencil bun if I contort my bones and hair, but nautilus buns are completely out of the question. I'm not sure what the difference in technique is, sorry!

[rowie]

OMG I see different variations for the pencil bun. I thought this girl was doing almost a "Pha" bun, but here is her Pencil Bun Version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SXpSSp4bjg

and here is the "Pha" bun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsF9Kp5W9Ig

by the way, I love the music for this Pha bun tutorial!!!

Edit: If I am able to do the "Pha" bun someday, I'll definitely play the same music she did while doing it. LOL

[ravenheather]

Yeah that version of the pencil bun looks just like a pha bun. This is the version that I was saying looks like a nautilus bun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0k3dD4qX34

Of course I've also seen a "nautilus bun" that looks just like a lazy wrap bun.

[Cherry_Sprinkle]

Torrin has a really beautiful video for the nautilus ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b86ZH0J7xtE&feature=related

I've always thought the pencil bun and lazy wrap looked pretty much the same but my nautilus looks different.

[rowie]

LOL I ended up getting that song in itunes. I have to say it's a good music to do buns while using ones own favorite fork. :)

[Wildcat Diva]

OMG I see different variations for the pencil bun. I thought this girl was doing almost a "Pha" bun, but here is her Pencil Bun Version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SXpSSp4bjg

and here is the "Pha" bun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsF9Kp5W9Ig

by the way, I love the music for this Pha bun tutorial!!!

Edit: If I am able to do the "Pha" bun someday, I'll definitely play the same music she did while doing it. LOL

I have tried the Pha bun many times and failed, but the music makes me want to keep trying, LOL.

[rowie]

I have tried the Pha bun many times and failed, but the music makes me want to keep trying, LOL.

LOL I did too, and I was left with a tangle mess.:D

[teela1978]

Pencil bun, lazy wrap, and nautilus are all pretty much the same thing, a loop with hair wrapped around the base and then you use the loop on the outside and a stick going over/under/over the loop/wrapped hair/loop. They do kinda look different sometimes because they're made differently though (imho).

The Pha bun (or orchid twist as it was called when I first found it) works pretty well even on shorter hair if you don't bother wrapping the base. Its very handy that way.

[curlsgalore]

Yeah that version of the pencil bun looks just like a pha bun. This is the version that I was saying looks like a nautilus bun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0k3dD4qX34

Of course I've also seen a "nautilus bun" that looks just like a lazy wrap bun.

That's the one I was thinking of too.

[Cowgirl16]

I love the Pha bun! I'm going to have to try this when I get home :)