Remedies for Severe Scalp Psoriasis

[mallorykay13]

So, I have had severe scalp psoriasis for about 5 years. If any of you have plaque psoriasis, you know how long of a time that is. For a long time, it was misdiagnosed, so I have only recently (in the last year and half) been given a treatment for it. But, that treatment burns, and makes me cry. It is alcohol based, so that way it will dry and not make the scalp oily, but it hurts so bad. There has got to be a way to battle this without hurting myself. I am sick of having thinning hair, dead skin in my hair, and having it visible to everyone else (it has crept out of my hairline). Does anyone have any thing that has worked for their psoriasis? I come to you guys as a cry for help, I'm sick of the pain of raw skin, the itching, the nagging from my boyfriend and mother to quit scratching, and the embarrassing flaking and visible raw spots.

[MissCoco]

First of all, I'm so sorry that you are dealing with this issue :grouphug: From what I've read about scalp psoriasis, and also from helping a close friend with mild scalp psoriasis, vitamin D is crucial for the health of the scalp (amongst many other benefits). I'm guessing you've had your levels checked already? As a side note, I've heard that taking vit D/fish oil/omega 3 supplements can all be beneficial to treat psoriasis. Also, avoiding anything inflammatory (being in direct sunlight, inflammatory foods that are sugary and starchy, etc) is imperative. As for the actual topical treatment of your scalp, I think using pure aloe vera gel could be of great use and wouldn't interfere with your other treatment (though it's always better to be safe and check).

I hope some other people more knowledgeable than I will come along to provide better answers for you. Again, I'm really sorry you have this condition and I truly hope it'll improve in time :flower:

[mallorykay13]

First of all, I'm so sorry that you are dealing with this issue :grouphug: From what I've read about scalp psoriasis, and also from helping a close friend with mild scalp psoriasis, vitamin D is crucial for the health of the scalp (amongst many other benefits). I'm guessing you've had your levels checked already? As a side note, I've heard that taking vit D/fish oil/omega 3 supplements can all be beneficial to treat psoriasis. Also, avoiding anything inflammatory (being in direct sunlight, inflammatory foods that are sugary and starchy, etc) is imperative. As for the actual topical treatment of your scalp, I think using pure aloe vera gel could be of great use and wouldn't interfere with your other treatment (though it's always better to be safe and check).

I hope some other people more knowledgeable than I will come along to provide better answers for you. Again, I'm really sorry you have this condition and I truly hope it'll improve in time :flower:

I actually haven't had my vit. D levels checked. My mom has a vit. D deficiency, so that may mean something. I take well over the recommended daily amount of vit. D, but that has only been a recent addition to my vitamin regime.

[Ephemeral]

My husband has outbreaks of psoriasis caused by arthritis. I've been rinsing his scalp with diluted apple cider vinegar, massaging his scalp with coconut oil and then scritching it with a wooden comb. When it's really itchy, rubbing a small amount of aloe vera gel seems to soothe it.

Good luck - I'm sorry you are going through this. It's not a pleasant, I know.

[mallorykay13]

I'm scared of scritching because I get raw spots so easily. The hair is starting to thin in that area, and I think it's due to me damaging the hair with my scratching... I will have to try some aloe for the itchy times.

[PetuniaBlossom]

Aww, I'm sorry you're having to deal with psoriasis. I'll pass along something that helped a friend of mine, FWIW. She knew a really good chiropractor, socially, whom she trusted.
He noticed her psoriasis and asked if she would consider coming to him professionally. After having her spine adjusted twice a week for less than two months, her psoriasis abated. She told me she hadn't made any other changes to her routine, diet, etc., so she could only attribute it to having her spine adjusted.
It might be worth a try.

[mallorykay13]

Aww, I'm sorry you're having to deal with psoriasis. I'll pass along something that helped a friend of mine, FWIW. She knew a really good chiropractor, socially, whom she trusted.
He noticed her psoriasis and asked if she would consider coming to him professionally. After having her spine adjusted twice a week for less than two months, her psoriasis abated. She told me she hadn't made any other changes to her routine, diet, etc., so she could only attribute it to having her spine adjusted.
It might be worth a try.

Thats awesome! It's also slightly ironic because I plan on getting my doctorate in chiropractics. :D I wonder where the chiropractor went to school/where he learned to do that.

[AgnesONutter]

How does your scalp react to deep oilings? My mother have psoriasis and for her it helps to soak her scalp in oil (her favourite is virgin coconut) and aloe vera gel the night before washing both to soften the flakes, and to help soothe and heal the actual outbreaks. Nothing really heals it, but all things soothing and healing and non-drying helps. You might also want to try St John's Wort, we have it in hydrosol form. So inbetween oilings, when the psorisis really gets bad, my mother just wets her scalp with it, massage gently and let air dry. It helps.

[mallorykay13]

How does your scalp react to deep oilings? My mother have psoriasis and for her it helps to soak her scalp in oil (her favourite is virgin coconut) and aloe vera gel the night before washing both to soften the flakes, and to help soothe and heal the actual outbreaks. Nothing really heals it, but all things soothing and healing and non-drying helps. You might also want to try St John's Wort, we have it in hydrosol form. So inbetween oilings, when the psorisis really gets bad, my mother just wets her scalp with it, massage gently and let air dry. It helps.

I will try this.

[PetuniaBlossom]

Thats awesome! It's also slightly ironic because I plan on getting my doctorate in chiropractics. :D I wonder where the chiropractor went to school/where he learned to do that.
She said he is a Maximized Living Chiropractor and went to school originally in Texas at Palmer, then somewhere in Florida at Maximized Living headquarters. She said Maximized Living is awesome!

[mallorykay13]

I'm going to be going to Palmer in Iowa! If everything works out. :)

[MissCoco]

I actually haven't had my vit. D levels checked. My mom has a vit. D deficiency, so that may mean something. I take well over the recommended daily amount of vit. D, but that has only been a recent addition to my vitamin regime.

Checking back in a little late just to say that it would be good to have the vit. D levels evaluated, but in the meantime it's wise of you to take supplements. I would say it should take about two months before showing significant results, like it did for my mom (who also has a deficiency). I recently found out that I too had a deficiency, but I think it affected me more emotionally and physically (I would feel a bit moody and tired pretty easily). Anyway, I hope you, on the other hand, don't have a deficiency!


I'm going to be going to Palmer in Iowa! If everything works out. :)

That's great! Hope everything works out for you! :)

[woolyleprechaun]

My husband suffers with this. I find that massaging his scalp with warm oil soothes it a little, before using a prescription shampoo.
I know its not the same a dandruff, but perhaps you would like to try the Snake Oil bar from Lush. I love that stuff....it seems to cure everything! From kids cradle cap to my scalp zits.
I think Neem powder is very good for scalp complaints too, plus it will help prevent infection in the sore spots. Id try mixing it with olive oil for added moisture.
Get well soon :)

[Natalia]

Im sorry your dealing with this :grouphugs: . I have eczema not psoriasis so what works for me may be a dud to you but i figure its worth a shot.

For the cracks/pain/itching comfrey is my ultimate go to. You can get comfrey infused oil or make it it isnt terribly expensive. You can massage that into your scalp once diluted to soothe it. You can brew comfrey tea as a rinse as well (better if mixed with alow juice) but it may stain your hair a bit.

Topical saint johns wart is helpful to speed healing and reduce the thickness of the crusties. you can get that in an infused oil too. i know that isnt much help if your scalp doesnt tolerate oil but either can be done as tea if you canget your hands on the herb.

A premade product that i use when i have the unbearable itchies and burning is quantum health itch nix. It says gel but its very liquid so you can mist it or add some to your xisting mister to make it easy to apply. It may hurt to much now but ive heard than sea salt/honey/oil scrubs are good to break up the plaque when it starts to shed.

I hope you find some relief soon!

[PrincessIdril]

I have mild scalp psoriasis, but I've had it for something like 12 years. My plaque psoriasis will flare up and then go away but the scalp one never has it just calms down a lot. So first of all, what triggered your psoriasis? If like me you have a stress trigger you need to relax and stop worrying about it so much that will help a lot. I know it sounds stupid and patronising but it does help.

A lot of people will recommend scritching to get rid of the flakes but personally I wouldn't. Mositure is the key with psoriasis of any kind so try some deep oilings on your scalp to mositurise it, that might help with the itching a bit. When I was a kid my mum used to make up a special blend for me to use which we'd apply overnight. It helped. I'll find out what she used but I'm pretty sure sweet almond oil was the base oil. Lush also do a scalp massage bar called Snake Oil, I've never used it but that stuff is meant to be very good for psoriasis.

On the subject of Lush I would recommend trying their Soak and Float shampoo bar. It's technically an anti-dandruff one but the cade oil helps to soothe psorasis. Or try and find a shampoo with cold tar in, it smells awful but it does help.

Finally I'd go back to your doctor and ask for a different scalp treatment. Sounds like what you've been given is too strong for you. My dermatologist perscribed me a special shampoo which works a treat. It's active ingredient is Ketoconazole, might be worth asking your doctor for a similar treatment. Also you say that it has spread beyond your hairline and onto your face? That happened to me, to deal with that I suggest you ask for a topical cream to use. I have a Calcipotriol based cream.

Psoriasis is a really sucky condition to have, but it can and will get better. :grouphug:

ETA: Got the recipe for the oil mix my mum used on me.
7 drops teatree oil, 7 drops lavender oil, 7 drops bergamot oil, 4 drops sandalwood oil
mix into 50 ml carrier oil. I liked sweet almond oil (nicer smell), but wheatgerm oil is very healing for skin. You can use most vegetable or nut oils as a base though.
Hope this helps somewhat!

[torrilin]

Talk to your doctor. I don't believe any of the ointments prescribed for my partner's psoriasis have alcohol. His covers about 30% of his entire body, not just his scalp, so he's more severe than most people.

The default regimen he's on is a coal tar shampoo and coal tar body wash and UV light treatments 2 days out of the week. His psoriasis (like pretty much every autoimmune disorder) includes stress triggers, so we try to keep his day to day life as low stress as possible. This means we eat a fairly veggie heavy diet, he has a low stress job, and he has plenty of exercise built into his daily routine. He does have ointment prescriptions, but they all have nasty side effects and are only for use on acute attacks... and the goal with his treatment is to prevent acute attacks.

[DinaAG]

vinegar rinses, less sugar n ur food and fats

[mallorykay13]

You guys have been beautiful and helpful. I'm pretty sure stress is my main trigger. I am in the middle of a move, with a 1.5 hour commute to my school, which is new my senior year... It's a mess. I noticed today that my psoriasis was the worst its ever been. I am going to stop scratching as much as I can as it can worsen it (which I have found out is more of a habit than I thought... Sometimes I scratch and don't even realize I'm doing it) deep oil treatments. Also, PrincessIdril I have been wanting a Lush product for a while, (I've never had one) and this snake oil/soak and float proposition has enabled me. I also think I'm going to ask to see an actual dermatologist, which I never have been to before. My general physician diagnosed and treated me.

[mallorykay13]

What is a good way to apply moisture without making me need to wash everyday to counteract the grease-ball look?

[shutterpillar]

My husband has severe plaque psoriasis, and also gets it on his scalp. He began taking fish oil last year, and it was COMPLETELY clear within 4 months.

Unfortunately it did not stay clear, but it is not nearly as bad as it was when he began taking the fish oil. He recently began Humira injections and has only been on them for a couple months, so we haven't seen any final result yet.

Anyway, all that to say - try fish oil! He just took two capsules two times a day with a meal. It worked wonders for my husband in the beginning, but I think eventually stress of his current job got to him and made his psoriasis come back.

[Kelikea]

You might want to check for food allergies, cut back on starch and sugar. Omega 3 oil supplement, like flax oil, is supposed to help, along with SuperFood.

[Natalia]

What is a good way to apply moisture without making me need to wash everyday to counteract the grease-ball look?

A mister especially with aloe should help. You can also do one with tea herbal or green i think would be best. Saturate the greasy area with that and then blot gently to remove the sebum. Tea is astringent though so be careful how often you use it.


My husband has severe plaque psoriasis, and also gets it on his scalp. He began taking fish oil last year, and it was COMPLETELY clear within 4 months.


You might want to check for food allergies, cut back on starch and sugar.

For longterm control i seccond these.

[Maybe]

Intermittent fasting has almost.completely cleared up my psoriosis. I did not have it on my head but on my legs and back. Whereas I may have had 10-15 plaques at an given time, I know have 0-2 (usually none). Psriosis is related.to inflammation, like arthritis and (interestingly) depression. Fasting alliws the body to focus on healing itself rather than digestion. There is a growing body of research on this.

I fast twice a week for 24 hours at a.time. I abstain.from eating from 3 pm Monday to 3 pm Tuesday and then again on Thu-Fri. I have droooed body fat without losing any muscle (in.fact I have gained muscle), my psorisis is all but gone and my sacro-illiac issues have improved. Inflammation is very damaging to the body.

Good luck.

[Maybe]

Sorry, typing from my phone :(

[mallorykay13]

A mister especially with aloe should help. You can also do one with tea herbal or green i think would be best. Saturate the greasy area with that and then blot gently to remove the sebum. Tea is astringent though so be careful how often you use it.
Do you mean the aloe for adding moisture or removing sebum? I'm confused.

[Natalia]

Do you mean the aloe for adding moisture or removing sebum? I'm confused.

for moisturizing but it works great for styling too so you can hide the clumpyness the grease causes.

[Kelikea]

I was just reading about eczema and psoriasis online and someone said green tea was very helpful to hers.

I put green tea bags that have soaked in hot water on my patch which was getting quite bad. I just dabbed at bit and let it sit a bit and sipped the tea. 24 hours later it was reduced by more than half in redness and many of the itchy bumps have gone away. I did it again so that I do it once every day. I'm shocked. I learned recently that these kinds of diseases are caused by angiogenesis. And green tea is a super strong anti angiogenesis agent. That's how I got the idea. What can it hurt?

[Tabitha]

Not fish oil or vit D, not intermittent fasting, not ketoconazole have helped my stress related scalp psoriasis.

Scritching however gentle, always makes it flare and bleed.

What's helped soothe (though not "cure") it the most has been Nightblooming's Panacea salve (http://www.etsy.com/listing/102816401/panaceas-hair-salve-leave-in-conditioner) - the original blend is working well for me, I have yet to do a prolonged trial of the other blends.

I slather it on a few hours before shampooing as a deep treatment and rub a tiny bit on daily. Used this way it dramatically cuts down on the redness and huge flakes.

[Ninika]

I also suffer from plaque psoriasis occasionally, though mercifully, my last outbreak was quite a while ago. The most annoying thing about psoriasis is that it is so highly individual, the triggers as well as the remedies. And even the same things don't always help twice.

You've been given lots of excellent advice already, but I want to add two things that worked for me:
First,
The non-yucky method:
A combination of - Oiling with Colecalciferol (vitamin D3). We always have Oleovit D3 at home for our kids, and I used a few drops straight on my psoriasis once a day. I don't know if this is available where you live.
- Hyaluronic acid capsules taken internally.
- and lastly, for moisturizing, a hand lotion containing vitamin A and calendula extract.

I did this for a couple of weeks, and my skin got better and better. I experimented a bit and came to the conclusion that I had to use all three of them for the psoriasis to clear up entirely. This was almost two years ago and I haven't had another outbreak since.

The yucky method (not for the faint-hearted :p):
In a time of great desperation I even gave external urine therapy a try, and my psoriasis was gone within a couple of days. This worked for me once, not for the next flare up, though.

Depending on your own level of yuck tolerance and desperation, you can always try this. Doesn't even cost anything :D. I just dabbed a bit of urine on the affected skin and let it dry, but this was on my ankle. For the scalp, I think I would do this during a hair wash, between shampooing and conditioning. Just massage a bit onto the scalp, let it sit for a couple of minutes, condition and then - rinse. A lot ;).

[hayesa]

Just wanted to let you know you're not alone in the severity of your scalp psoriasis- my entire scalp is a crusted, thickened mess. I can totally sympathise with the scratching even when you don't know you're doing it, and the embarrassment of having visible massive flakes and bleeding bits. :(

Someone's already mentioned Coal Tar shampoo (I'm using T-Gel.) I've only washed with it a few times, but afterwards I get a few hours of relief from the itching, which is an improvement. I've also noticed tea rinses- as in, brewing tea with a standard teabag, and dumping it on my skin- help somewhat. My aim at the minute isn't even to get rid of the psoriasis, just to get it to a manageable level, because at the moment it's taking over my life!

With regards to the hair loss, I've noticed when I've picked at my scalp, I pull hairs out too. It's definitely giving me little bald patches and breakage. Hope we can both beat this! :)

[TeaEarlGreyHot]

The bit that I have is due to heredity. My grandmother has it so bad that she had to start wearing a wig in her 30s. She's lost a majority of her hair because of it. Sometimes even plain water burns my scalp and I've had to try many many things.

2 main things that help the most are deep oiling my scalp at least twice a week with coconut oil or jojoba oil- I prefer coconut. I leave that on overnight and then on washing day I apply MORE coconut oil to my scalp all over and the places I have the dry patches. Then I wash with an Argan oil shampoo and conditioner. I wash twice a week right now. Hoping that I can stretch it to once a week in the future. I also make sure to take biotin and get SOME sun on my scalp/face (I have some psoriasis starting on my forehead).

[MissPetite2010]

Got some info for ya. I've had to use it a couple of times before, when my head got irritated, and itchy, but my mom had bought scalpicin- maximum strength. It's a scalp itch medication. That you can probably buy at walmart-dierbergs-target. Anyway, I got the box here in front of me. Just found underneath sink. Anyway, it's a clear liquid. Long lasting itch relief. It's associated with psoriasis, flaking, seborrheic dermatitis. it has vitamin e in it as well. and dermatologist recommended. When I used it before, it seemed to help. Besides using ACV and water sometimes.

[Littlewing13]

I don't have this, nor can I give proper advice as I don't know the severity of the condition, but I used to be a hairdresser, and had a few clients with psoriasis.

It is almost always worse with stress. I suggest meditation, walks in the park, regular exercise, anything that helps calm you down. Even if only for a few minutes a day.
Don't use commercial products unless they are specifically for that condition. If you react, don't use that product again.
I realise I may get stones thrown at me here, but bleach often helped many clients (however I would avoid any open sores). Remember peroxide is a cleaning agent.

[Natalia]

The yucky method (not for the faint-hearted :p):
In a time of great desperation I even gave external urine therapy a try, and my psoriasis was gone within a couple of days. This worked for me once, not for the next flare up, though.

well urine does contain urea which is what most heavy duty foot creams contain to soften and hydrate thickened skin so it makes sense. If that were to be effective for someone you can reduce the ick factor by buing cosmetic urea powder from places like amazon and mix it yourself. Its not free but it is cheap cheap cheap like $4 for 8 oz.

[cecemutt]

IF it is Pityrosporum,(i.e. Malassezia yeast) that is causing your problem then yes, hair dye or bleach does help. It kills off the yeast for a while. :) (I dye my hair every 5 weeks)

Since you are in the medical field I do believe that you will appreciate this article/study.
It is 14 pages long, but a GREAT read and VERY informative.
Psoriasis and Malassezia Yeasts
http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs/32471/InTech-Psoriasis_and_malassezia_yeasts.pdf

It states that psoriasis is caused by M. globosa & M. restricta.
(from my limited understanding of medical speak) :/

I have this problem mildly at the moment and I have found that Pyrithione Zinc totally gets rid of it for about a week at a time – sometimes two.
I wash my face(T-zone area), my upper back, my upper arms, my bum and behind my ears with Goldwell Dual Senses Scalp Regulation Anti Dandruff Shampoo 1.2% PZ. I use this particular one because I already had it in my stash and I found it to work really well as it is not too drying.
http://www.amazon.com/Goldwell-Senses-Regulation-Dandruff-Shampoo/dp/B004B7NN0M/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=KA5B7DP2ZDNV&coliid=I2MR0XE8KH1BFZ

I also use DHS Zinc Shampoo - it is stronger at 2% PZ - but I only use it once in a while because it is a little drying where as the Goldwell is not.

I do not use these on my scalp – only my hair line if it flares up.
(I am a conditioner washing only gal)
Co-washing has helped me tremendously!!!!!!! I cannot emphasize this enough.
Sulfates of any kind tear me up!!!!!! (and cause me hair loss!)
I co-wash every day and use very warm water during my first rinse. (v05 Strawberries & cream conditioner)
I also use a hand held filtered shower head at full massage setting – back and forth over my entire scalp for about 2 minutes. (I hold it very close to my scalp)
I have almost NO problems now. 90+% better!!!
I co wash EVERY NIGHT.
And, to protect my hair from the constant water on it every day I use coconut oil on my hair about an hour or two before co-washing.
My scalp and skin are doing GREAT now! (a miracle really)
My hair is no longer falling out. New baby hair all over the place!

I also have in my back up arsenal a couple of Pyrithione Zinc bars. One Vegan & one non-vegan
1. Noble Formula 2% Pyrithione Zinc Bar Soap with Emu Oil – non-vegan
2. Noble Formula 2% Pyrithione Zinc Bar Soap with Mango Butter - Vegan Formula
These bars have only 3-4 ingredients and are 100% natural.
They are too heavy for my face, but are great for my scalp and body.
I get mine off of ebay, but you can get them at many stores over the net.
One bar is supposed to last over a year. I use with a wash rag as it makes it last longer and gives good exfoliation.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/360436504489?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/360437318065?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

There is also a “new and improved” formula out there, but I have not tried it yet.
Calming Zinc Bar Soap(Formerly Noble Zinc Soap)
http://www.drbaileyskincare.com/noble-formula-bar-soap.shtml
She has a lot of good info on her site - most I agree with, some I do not.

And, here is one blog that I am following all about Malassezia yeast – it has a lot of GREAT first person experience. (although once in a while gets a wee bit bizarre.)
http://malasseziayeast-mypersonal-battle.blogspot.com/search/label/A%3A1%20Important%20Note%20to%20Visitors

Cutting down on saturated fats helps too. Malassezia yeast feed on this type of fat.

I really hope that your Psoriasis gets better and that you find an answer. (much prayer to the Lord lead me to mine)
You will be in my prayers.
:)

[Tabitha]

A combination of - Oiling with Colecalciferol (vitamin D3). We always have Oleovit D3 at home for our kids, and I used a few drops straight on my psoriasis once a day. I don't know if this is available where you live.
- Hyaluronic acid capsules taken internally.
- and lastly, for moisturizing, a hand lotion containing vitamin A and calendula extract.

I did this for a couple of weeks, and my skin got better and better. I experimented a bit and came to the conclusion that I had to use all three of them for the psoriasis to clear up entirely. This was almost two years ago and I haven't had another outbreak since.

Thanks for the vit D3 tip. I have some in spray form and will def. give that a try. I started taking hyaluronic acid quite recently, not sure if it's had a chance to make a difference yet.


Just wanted to let you know you're not alone in the severity of your scalp psoriasis- my entire scalp is a crusted, thickened mess. I can totally sympathise with the scratching even when you don't know you're doing it, and the embarrassment of having visible massive flakes and bleeding bits. :(

Someone's already mentioned Coal Tar shampoo (I'm using T-Gel.) I've only washed with it a few times, but afterwards I get a few hours of relief from the itching, which is an improvement. I've also noticed tea rinses- as in, brewing tea with a standard teabag, and dumping it on my skin- help somewhat. My aim at the minute isn't even to get rid of the psoriasis, just to get it to a manageable level, because at the moment it's taking over my life!

With regards to the hair loss, I've noticed when I've picked at my scalp, I pull hairs out too. It's definitely giving me little bald patches and breakage. Hope we can both beat this! :)
If Coal Tar works for you, try Capasal - my GP prescribed it for me but you can buy it OTC in pharmacies. Coal tar & salicylic acid, if you don't mind smelling like a roadmender's groupie I found it worked somewhat whereas T-Gel just doesn't, for me.

It's quite harsh on the length of the hair so I used to protect that with conditioner. I have definitely found that I need to avoid conditioner getting on my scalp, either directly by accident, or creeping up the hair shaft if I applied to much or didn't rinse well enough, because it seems to make it worse.

[Citydwellergirl]

First time posting, so here it goes! I have not been professionally diagnosed with scalp psoriasis but from my own research and lack of results with nearly every commercial dandruff product available...it just seems like psoriasis is the most likely source of my big scaly flakes of dry skin and -at one point- uncontrollable itching to the point of bleeding. My scalp was the worst a year ago before I discovered LHC but since joining here and incorporating regular oilings into my wash routine I have noticed some improvements. My hair has never been softer and more manageable, yet still my scalp continues to flake. I no longer scratch until I bleed, but I still cannot wear my hair down without visible flakes falling out. My mother has been coming down on me lately to go to a Doctor and get a prescription, but I feel as though the natural route may still hold promise for me, I still have not tried rinses, just heavy oiling. Has anyone here had to abandon their natural remedies for prescription treatments instead? Any advice from people who have tried both options?

[jrmviola]

have you tried tea tree oil?

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=10971&page=32&p=2518030&highlight=tree#post2518030

[Citydwellergirl]

Hi jrmviola, thank you for your reply! Actually, pure tea tree oils is one that I have yet to try! So far I have been using a mixture of EVOO, organic coconut oil, jojoba and hemp oil and the four of them seem to work well with my hairs' structure so far. Would you recommend adding tea tree oil to my routine or trying it on its own?

[vpatt]

The most relief I have had from my psoriasis is the Autoimmune Protocol, which is a diet. It cleared a LOT of my skin. Now that I am not eating that way it is getting bad again. It is a form of Paleolithic diet and it is restrictive. But it is really healthy and has helped many people. The biggest thing is that like some people I don't want to work to get healthy, I want a magic pill. But I haven't found that yet, sigh. But if you are interested Google "The Paleo Mom' and you will find lots of info. It really did help me and I need to get back on it.

[lillielil]

I'm following this with interest. My DW has severe psoriasis (scalp and elsewhere, plus the associated arthritis), and has only found relief from biologics, which unfortunately our insurance does not want to cover.

She uses coconut oil and a fine-toothed comb to descale her scalp every now and then, and occasionally washes with tar shampoo. I'm going to suggest tea tree oil to her - it should be easy enough to add it to the coconut oil.

[lapushka]

First time posting, so here it goes! I have not been professionally diagnosed with scalp psoriasis but from my own research and lack of results with nearly every commercial dandruff product available...it just seems like psoriasis is the most likely source of my big scaly flakes of dry skin and -at one point- uncontrollable itching to the point of bleeding. My scalp was the worst a year ago before I discovered LHC but since joining here and incorporating regular oilings into my wash routine I have noticed some improvements. My hair has never been softer and more manageable, yet still my scalp continues to flake. I no longer scratch until I bleed, but I still cannot wear my hair down without visible flakes falling out. My mother has been coming down on me lately to go to a Doctor and get a prescription, but I feel as though the natural route may still hold promise for me, I still have not tried rinses, just heavy oiling. Has anyone here had to abandon their natural remedies for prescription treatments instead? Any advice from people who have tried both options?

I would go straight to a doctor and stop throwing all kinds of things at it. A doctor will know the difference between SD (seborrheic dermatitis) and something else right away, or at least after a few visits. You do need to stick with it. Solutions don't come at the click of your fingers. Have you ever tried anti-fungal shampoos such as Nizoral 2% (not the OTC 1%, but the 2%).

[jrmviola]

Hi jrmviola, thank you for your reply! Actually, pure tea tree oils is one that I have yet to try! So far I have been using a mixture of EVOO, organic coconut oil, jojoba and hemp oil and the four of them seem to work well with my hairs' structure so far. Would you recommend adding tea tree oil to my routine or trying it on its own?

i would cut it with an oil that absorbs well with your hair, i dont claim to be an expert but i'd say start with a small amount and see what works for you... :D

[Citydwellergirl]

Thank you vpatt, lillielil, lapushka, and jrmviola for your advices; they contain many words of wisdom! I think I will go ahead and see a Doc this weekend on my next day off... However tonight is wash night for me so I think I will do my usual 4 oil mixture this time again (sans tea tree oil since I forgot to purchase some at the grocery store earlier) When I see the Doc I will definitely voice my concerns about trying to stay as natural as possible and get her advice on how to incorporate tea tree oil into my routine, (perhaps mixed into my conditioner or with my pre-poo oil treatments as jrmviola suggested) I'm really curious to see if it helps since I've heard so many wonderful things about it!

[Citydwellergirl]

I would go straight to a doctor and stop throwing all kinds of things at it. A doctor will know the difference between SD (seborrheic dermatitis) and something else right away, or at least after a few visits. You do need to stick with it. Solutions don't come at the click of your fingers. Have you ever tried anti-fungal shampoos such as Nizoral 2% (not the OTC 1%, but the 2%).

Regarding your question about the anti-fungal shampoo, no I have not yet specifically tried any brand by the name of or to my knowledge containing Nizoral 2% but the current shampoo I am using is Selsum Blue which contains Selenium sulfide 1%. I will be sure to keep you all posted on what I get prescribed to me (I am almost certain the Doc will give me a new shampoo to try)

[Obsidian]

I have SD and use a prescription 2.5% selenium sulfide. Rub it into your scalp really well and let it sit for 5-10 minutes before rinsing.

[Darkhorse1]

First time posting, so here it goes! I have not been professionally diagnosed with scalp psoriasis but from my own research and lack of results with nearly every commercial dandruff product available...it just seems like psoriasis is the most likely source of my big scaly flakes of dry skin and -at one point- uncontrollable itching to the point of bleeding. My scalp was the worst a year ago before I discovered LHC but since joining here and incorporating regular oilings into my wash routine I have noticed some improvements. My hair has never been softer and more manageable, yet still my scalp continues to flake. I no longer scratch until I bleed, but I still cannot wear my hair down without visible flakes falling out. My mother has been coming down on me lately to go to a Doctor and get a prescription, but I feel as though the natural route may still hold promise for me, I still have not tried rinses, just heavy oiling. Has anyone here had to abandon their natural remedies for prescription treatments instead? Any advice from people who have tried both options?

I too dealt with this and it was horrible painful. I had silver scales that were white/crusty and no scalp oil (rare for me as I have a very oily scalp) and massive hair shedding. I was given some steroid drops and thankgod, one application (2 drops) and the problem was gone. This was very, very bad SD.

SD is a fungus that lies below the scalp, whereas psoriasis is an autoimmune(as is eczema). Unless diagnosed, treating the symptoms may make the condition worse. SD thrives on bacteria/oil/excess sebum. The flakes we get on mild cases are the excess shed of the skin of the scalp. The itching is due to the fungus/irritation. I tried to back off washes and it made my flakes worse. Returning to daily shampooing was what worked best for me--no flakes now and no patchy outbreaks. I did try scalp oils and find it didn't do anything for me. The following products did help:

Head and shoulders: For mild cases. It IS drying so CWC if you use.

Nizoral: Disgusting (smell--ugh!), but after 2 uses, worked. This must be left on the scalp for at least 2 minutes, and I will warn you, the healing effect of this makes your scalp itch worse!! I did cold rinses and then discontinued use, returning to H&S and was fine. NOTE: This is not recommended for those with color treated hair.

The fungus that causes SD lies below the scalp, hence the reason why it needs to sit on the scalp for a bit to soak in. Itching after is a normal reaction as, like anything healing, it will itch. I found cold water scalp rinses the best! I also have been using HE tealightfully clean, and it's got tea tree oil in it, which has been the best for my scalp so far! While it can be drying for those who don't have oily scalp, I just CWC and am elated at how nice my hair looks.

I hope this helps--I know how uncomfortable SD is. I didn't care about visible flakes, but that's just me ;)

[CurlyCap]

I think you need to see a dermatologist.

SD will need treatments great for infections while psoriasis will need treatments for inflammation. So knowing what you have is key and the beginning of trying appropriate non-medication options. That being said, prescription medications are not evil and serve a very key role is treating both conditions.

[Citydwellergirl]

Thank you Osbsidian, Darkhorse1, Curlycap and others for the advice! As I'm sure some people can relate, I wasn't enthused about seeing the big ol' scary Doctor but I decided it would be best for me to get some professional help instead of trying to battle this out myself. So I went the week after making my first post here (I know I said I'd follow up sooner, sorry guys & gals!) and I did leave with a prescription of 2.5% Selenium Sulfide shampoo, which is basically very similar to the Selsum Blue I was using, but this is stronger and seems to have lifted away most of the flakes/scales (the first two washes I did with this almost seemed to increase my flakiness, but the Dr. said there would be lots of dry dead skin covering my scalp that needed to be sloughed off) Now while he was inspecting my scalp, I started to feel a little uneasy when he said he wasn't sure what it could be. "WASN'T SURE?!" Seriously??!! He theorizes that the oiling treatments I've been doing have been keeping whatever my condition is at bay and that unless he can see my scalp in the middle of a flare up it will be trial and error on his end too, sigh! I hate the thought of having to wait until it gets bad again to find out what it is, but at least the shampoo he prescribed hasn't made it any worse!

Anyway my Doc shared with me a little something about my condition that was completely eye opening and I know you LHCer's would probably find this info useful to pass on to anyone else who may be experiencing what I am going through, combined with hearing loss- yes you heard me, hearing loss! Ever since I was a child I've had problems with my ear wax, one ear produced almost no oil leaving the wax dry and rock hard, and the other ear would over-produce oily ear wax leaving me with sticky massive blockage (ew! :bigeyes: ). By age 6 I was being tested for hearing loss, by my teens I was listening to my headphones on full blast (worsening my condition too) and by my early twenties I had progressed to being almost completely deaf (80% hearing loss at my worse, and this was also around the time when my scalp was at its worse). Everything my previous family Dr had suggested over the years could no longer combat what had built up in my ears and I was facing the possibility of having the wax surgically removed...that's when I met my new current Dr. He suggested flushing my ears in his office. After prescribed ear drops and two sessions flushing my ears, I could hear everything and everyone again - what felt like a medical miracle to me!

Once the wax was out of my ears and on the table it was pretty clear to see why it had gotten so bad so quickly in my late teens/early twenties when I started having scalp problems, my ears were loaded with the dead skin flakes that had built into chunks and broken pieces of hair from my scalp! It was clear that my "hair crumbs" were out of control and clearly exacerbating my ear condition. Shortly after this incident I discovered LHC, a silk sleeping cap and a regular deep oiling routine. Hopefully this new shampoo is the last piece of the puzzle I need to care for my hair properly. I hope my journey has been as interesting and useful to my fellow LHC members to read as it has been for me to live.

[lapushka]

I had "plugs" of ear wax as a young child as well. Two had to be stabbed out with a long kind of metal pick (that's how it was done at the doctor's office). I was 3 & 6 at the time, I believe. I had a few wounds in my ears from having it removed. My entire canal was plugged up two times.

[Citydwellergirl]

I had "plugs" of ear wax as a young child as well. Two had to be stabbed out with a long kind of metal pick (that's how it was done at the doctor's office). I was 3 & 6 at the time, I believe. I had a few wounds in my ears from having it removed. My entire canal was plugged up two times.

Ouch! That sounds quite traumatic for a young child to go through, I'm sorry to hear that you were left with wounds :sad I had some minor bleeding for a few hours after I had my plugs removed too but thankfully the ear drops they gave me contained a topical painkiller as well. For a while I felt like I had super hearing, too! My ears were so sensitive to sound I had to wear ear muffs during the days for a while.

[Obsidian]

My doc said the same thing about needing to come in during a bad flair to really see what is going with my scalp but since the selenium sulfide works so well, I've never gotten around to having it checked again. I really hope the shampoo works well for you, its been a god send for me. Did your doc warn it cold lighten your hair? It never did mine but its already light so maybe thats why.

Really interesting about the ear wax. Over the last couple years, I've noticed my SD getting worse on my ears. I've even started using my medicated shampoo on them. I've not had any actual problems with wax build up but I do clean them a lot so maybe that helps.

[Citydwellergirl]

My doc said the same thing about needing to come in during a bad flair to really see what is going with my scalp but since the selenium sulfide works so well, I've never gotten around to having it checked again. I really hope the shampoo works well for you, its been a god send for me. Did your doc warn it cold lighten your hair? It never did mine but its already light so maybe thats why.

Really interesting about the ear wax. Over the last couple years, I've noticed my SD getting worse on my ears. I've even started using my medicated shampoo on them. I've not had any actual problems with wax build up but I do clean them a lot so maybe that helps.

So far it's been just a few of weeks (and I only wash my hair once a week) so I'm thinking I need to wait another month or so to see how it really works for me, but so far it seems to help :rolleyes: :p I will make sure to keep you all posted on my progress!

[Citydwellergirl]

So far it's been just a few of weeks (and I only wash my hair once a week) so I'm thinking I need to wait another month or so to see how it really works for me, but so far it seems to help :rolleyes: :p I will make sure to keep you all posted on my progress!

Also, no my Doc didn't mention it may make your hair lighter! I already have dark hair and was interested in going darker with henna once my scalp clears up, I hope this doesn't change my current shade!

[vpatt]

I had "plugs" of ear wax as a young child as well. Two had to be stabbed out with a long kind of metal pick (that's how it was done at the doctor's office). I was 3 & 6 at the time, I believe. I had a few wounds in my ears from having it removed. My entire canal was plugged up two times.

I am still grossed out sometimes by my ear 'issues', lol.

[Wobbe]

Have you tried using SPAM for your problem? I heard its a thing now and ive heard alot of people are using this SPAM thing..I tried searching what this SPAM is capable of and im very fascinated to know its medical properties and how it can help many people from certain kind of disease like arthritis, compromised immune systems, seizures, epilepsy, anxiety, and hair loss..

[vpatt]

Do you sell this? Just asking because it sounds like it.