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CurlyCurves
June 30th, 2012, 10:46 AM
3a/b here!

Any other 3s about? Please join!

CurlySasha
June 30th, 2012, 11:09 AM
Proud 3a/b BSL curly here! My ultimate goal is hip (or TBL, I'm undecided!) :)

3azza
June 30th, 2012, 11:17 AM
hi there! :)

DaniVerde
June 30th, 2012, 11:35 AM
Checking in! I can't say for sure yet if I'm a 3, I'm transitioning, so I have every thing on my head from 1c-3b. But I think I belong here! ;)

AngelDoll
June 30th, 2012, 11:42 AM
Hi :waving: ,

3-something here!:)

CurlyCurves
June 30th, 2012, 12:04 PM
Hello, you beautiful type 3s!

I see someone fixed my typo in the title - the mods, maybe?

CurlyCap
June 30th, 2012, 01:29 PM
Hi!

CurlyCap definitely belongs here. :D

Cheers to not being able to brush the curls away!

CurlyCap
June 30th, 2012, 01:52 PM
CurlyCurves,

I gotta say I love your shine. Does your hair just grow that way or is it the result of your haircare routine?

All of my shine is topical and I'd like to do all I can to help make my natural hair shiny. I don't think it's possible (I think it's a result of my hair type), but I might as well keep an open ear out. :D

cmg
June 30th, 2012, 01:58 PM
3-hair club! Yay :beerchug:

CurlyCurves
July 3rd, 2012, 10:06 AM
I know there's more of us out here!

And, everyone, post pics. I wanna see some curl-porn :eyebrows::eyebrows:

CurlyCurves
July 3rd, 2012, 10:07 AM
CurlyCurves,

I gotta say I love your shine. Does your hair just grow that way or is it the result of your haircare routine?

All of my shine is topical and I'd like to do all I can to help make my natural hair shiny. I don't think it's possible (I think it's a result of my hair type), but I might as well keep an open ear out. :D

Thank you :D

My hair does just seem to grow like that, but taking care of it certainly helps with the shine.

Kiwiwi
July 3rd, 2012, 10:22 AM
Hello lovely curlies,

I belong here indeed :) !
Love my curls! I learned about the curly girl method last year and that has saved my life (well, my ehm.. well, it stopped me fighting me hair and suddenly it looked gorgeous!) :D

But, I rarely wear my curls. I always have it up or in a braid, or 2. I shower, brush wet and put up. So the curls are just not really there then.

But I plan to grow to atleast waist WHEN CURLY (it's almost waist now when wet but absolutely not when dry) and then I plan to wear my curlies way more often :)

tohavelongcurls
July 3rd, 2012, 10:38 AM
I'm a 3! I think I'm a 3a/3b. I love everyone's curls!

longhairedleah
July 3rd, 2012, 10:46 AM
Hello!

I fall somewhere in the 3 range!

One day I'll put some pictures up (when my desktop pc which is holding the pics is back in commission)

You all have such beautiful curls!

MoonLover
July 3rd, 2012, 02:11 PM
I'm in! I am really starting to love an appreciate my curls, after a lifetime of fighting them (though not so much with styling- mostly the detangling).

HappyHair87
July 3rd, 2012, 02:32 PM
:D I'm here!:waving:

Thanx for this thread CurlyCurves! This is great!

spirals
July 3rd, 2012, 02:34 PM
I'm a 3A who always wanted curls like curlycurves'. But with all the compliments I've received comes an appreciation for my "sausage curls". :D I don't know if I can post pics yet. I'm thinking of getting a photobucket.

HappyHair87
July 3rd, 2012, 02:56 PM
Idk if u guys saw my lil rant in the other thread but...i was thinking about making a type 3 thread..lol!!! Glad you did it CC!

I wear my hair in a WnG pretty much everyday. The way i do mine is just to make to sections in the shower, rake my conditioner through and then put small globs of gel in and rake it through on top of the conditioner i leave-in. I have more conditioner in my hair than i do gel.

I am also a finger comber now. Although i'm thinking about pulling out my Denman tonite for the first time in MONTHS just to thoroughly detangle and massage my scalp...it is therapeutic!:lol:

I need therapy:(

CurlyCap
July 3rd, 2012, 03:06 PM
I am also a finger comber now. Although i'm thinking about pulling out my Denman tonite for the first time in MONTHS just to thoroughly detangle and massage my scalp...it is therapeutic!:lol:


I use my denman for the same reason! I finger comb as well, and it's GREAT for my hair....but something about brushing my scalp feels awesome. It's such a treat when your hair usually wages battles with brushes.

Have fun!

ladylowtide
July 3rd, 2012, 03:19 PM
I'm not a curly, but I just wanted pop in say you ladies have gorgeous, enviable hair!

Keep rocking those curls girls! :rockerdud:

HappyHair87
July 3rd, 2012, 03:45 PM
I use my denman for the same reason! I finger comb as well, and it's GREAT for my hair....but something about brushing my scalp feels awesome. It's such a treat when your hair usually wages battles with brushes.

Have fun!

:lol: I shall!

I've been under a lot of stress lately...and have been trying to find different ways to calm down...i don't do well with stress anymore like i used to as a kid...especially when its intense:confused:.

But caring for my hair does help. Nothing like jumping in the shower and fingercombing to my heart's content! It just makes me feel SO much better!
But add in the the magical bristles of that Denman??! It's a treat!

I wish i could go to a spa and have them finger comb my hair and run a Denman through it and then have my back massaged! That would be AWESOME!!! Lol!:D

*sigh* a girl can dream tho

HappyHair87
July 3rd, 2012, 07:43 PM
Bumping for more type 3's!:)

CurlyCap
July 3rd, 2012, 08:09 PM
I'm so excited that this thread exists...but now I don't know what to post to it!

So, I'll just throw something out there:

What does your hair do that you're certain only your hair does....or at least it feels like it?

Let's get some Type 3 stories and commiseration going. Maybe then we'll uncover some hair type specific topics. :D

HappyHair87
July 3rd, 2012, 09:15 PM
Lol!!!

I don't know what my hair does that you guys' hair doesn't do:p I like how i can now tell what kind of weather we're having, whether its humid or not and if it might rain:lol: It tends to get softer and my curls get slightly bigger in circumference (when wet or humid). If it's dry outside...my curls are slightly smaller in circumference and will feel dryer.

My hair has gotten longer and i looked in a 3 way mirror at work the other day...i rarely see my curls from the back...but i noticed i have a "slope" going on in the back:lol: From the side it kinda looks like a supercurly bob and then there's this dip in the back where it hangs lower...and the two clumps of curls that dangle off the back are just so cute to me! They bounce when i walk

I freakin love being a curly girl!

Quixii
July 3rd, 2012, 09:28 PM
Hello all! :)

CurlyCap
July 3rd, 2012, 10:34 PM
Has anyone here very tried to capture the volume of curls? I had HUGE hair today, super curly (the clumps didn't break up. They were just...diffuse? I don't know the word.) Anyway, it made me laugh and I wanted a picture SOOOOO bad. And all my pictures just looked like...CurlyCap.

Guh.

lol

Hollyfire3
July 4th, 2012, 12:37 AM
I don't know if I belong here....my hair is more 2c than 2b now days since its recovering quite nicely from heat damage (poor hair!). Looking at pictures of other 3s and I think I may be more 3a some days, but I can usually still brush my hair and get waves (kinda poofy ones though, and they get poofier and curlier as my hair gets better). I may just re type myself...ick, I don't know if I'm a wavy or a curly!:(

Quixii
July 4th, 2012, 01:09 AM
I don't know if I belong here....my hair is more 2c than 2b now days since its recovering quite nicely from heat damage (poor hair!). Looking at pictures of other 3s and I think I may be more 3a some days, but I can usually still brush my hair and get waves (kinda poofy ones though, and they get poofier and curlier as my hair gets better). I may just re type myself...ick, I don't know if I'm a wavy or a curly!:(
Well, post pictures, silly!

DaniVerde
July 4th, 2012, 02:20 AM
Well, post pictures, silly!

The fun thing is, Hollyfire never has. And I really want to see what her hair looks like!

ariesfairies
July 4th, 2012, 02:42 AM
I don't know if I belong here....my hair is more 2c than 2b now days since its recovering quite nicely from heat damage (poor hair!). Looking at pictures of other 3s and I think I may be more 3a some days, but I can usually still brush my hair and get waves (kinda poofy ones though, and they get poofier and curlier as my hair gets better). I may just re type myself...ick, I don't know if I'm a wavy or a curly!:(

Yeah same here! I've had hair washes that turned my hair flatter than it is. That and the 3's examples in the Hair Type guide all have shorter hair than I so it's difficult to compare as curls change when they grow longer.. ie. The top of my hair is relatively straight, and so the curls sorta gradually pop out as it goes to the bottom..

And as for the 3's examples in the Hair Type post, has anyone else had this problem too?

Quixii
July 4th, 2012, 03:08 AM
Yeah same here! I've had hair washes that turned my hair flatter than it is. That and the 3's examples in the Hair Type guide all have shorter hair than I so it's difficult to compare as curls change when they grow longer.. ie. The top of my hair is relatively straight, and so the curls sorta gradually pop out as it goes to the bottom..

And as for the 3's examples in the Hair Type post, has anyone else had this problem too?
Yeah. I know some people retype their hair as the length stretches out the curls, but, I dunno. I still feel like my hair exhibits the important characteristics of being 3a, just not uniformly. The ends always ringlet, and the middle has variable waving and spiralling, and then the very top is always pretty straight.

longhairedleah
July 4th, 2012, 06:34 AM
Yeah same here! I've had hair washes that turned my hair flatter than it is. That and the 3's examples in the Hair Type guide all have shorter hair than I so it's difficult to compare as curls change when they grow longer.. ie. The top of my hair is relatively straight, and so the curls sorta gradually pop out as it goes to the bottom..

And as for the 3's examples in the Hair Type post, has anyone else had this problem too?

agreed!! I also find that there are so many different types of curls that different 3as look different, as with different 3bs and 3cs. It's hard to classify

One thing I've been wondering for a while, which may end up helping, is what is the diameter of your ringlets/curls? Of course mine varies a lot from day to day, but ... I'm still a little curious!! I have yet to measure my own, and basically can't til my next wash day hahaha

HappyHair87
July 4th, 2012, 09:33 AM
My curls go from being the diameter of sharpie markers and some slightly larger on the top and crown section, my nape has the pencil sized curls and I have some the size of a skinny ball point pen above my ears. I never know what type to really claim. So I just switched my stats from 3c/4a to just 3c bc that seems to be the median of what's on my head:laugh:

I'm about to go in now and co wash. I was gonna do it last nite but decided not too. :( meh!

HappyHair87
July 4th, 2012, 09:33 AM
Ugh! Sorry. Double post.

Apple made me do it.

CurlyCap
July 4th, 2012, 04:14 PM
Yep. Curl size is all over the place. A LOT of it has to do with how much product I used and how I let my hair dry. Because of my job, I usually shower and co-wash at night. So how I sleep affects how my hair dries, and that affects how my hair curls.

I sometimes think about co-washing in the morning to get more predicitable and uniform hair (then it would be sharpie or smaller all the time)...but I'm too lazy. My hair takes almost 8hrs to dry completely. Really not into having a wet head most of the day.

cmg
July 4th, 2012, 06:06 PM
How big is a "sharpie"? Google wasn't helpful.

/ CMG

CurlyCurves
July 4th, 2012, 06:34 PM
I am just SO excited about this thread and SO excited that we're all here, together and EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! :D :D :D

CurlyCurves
July 4th, 2012, 06:37 PM
For those of you who are interested, I took this picture the other day;

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/396952_4259364322762_1478495747_n.jpg

Generally, I define 3b as big ringlets (like mine), 3a as looser curls and spirals and 3c as tighter, smaller 'coils' (but not quite type 4 hair)

And this, for fun :)

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/282654_4283562007689_1730585238_n.jpg

CurlyCurves
July 4th, 2012, 06:40 PM
Also, how do you curly girls get 2nd (or more) day hair with WnGs? :confused:

I can't do it.

My hair looked nice today (SO MUCH FRIZZ, THOUGH :mad:)

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/480279_4289357552574_810295394_n.jpg

But the tangles...

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/480093_4289382713203_829450929_n.jpg.

My hair just can't handle WnGs for more than one day :mad:

CurlyCap
July 4th, 2012, 06:43 PM
Second day hair: I don't.

In fact, my 1st day hair is 2nd day hair, since I co-wash at night and sleep on it.

For me, curl formation is based on water and clumping. Anything else breaks up clumps. It's a losing battle and I find it easier to co-wash every night.

Maybe if I were willing to wear my hair in a braid or up the second day it would be easier. I'm starting to get the length to do that, but it's not necessary yet.

CurlyCurves
July 4th, 2012, 06:56 PM
Hello lovely curlies,

I belong here indeed !
Love my curls! I learned about the curly girl method last year and that has saved my life (well, my ehm.. well, it stopped me fighting me hair and suddenly it looked gorgeous!)

But, I rarely wear my curls. I always have it up or in a braid, or 2. I shower, brush wet and put up. So the curls are just not really there then.

But I plan to grow to atleast waist WHEN CURLY (it's almost waist now when wet but absolutely not when dry) and then I plan to wear my curlies way more often :)

Your hair is gorgeous :) Can't wait to see it even longer!


I'm a 3! I think I'm a 3a/3b. I love everyone's curls!

Hello! I'm a 3a/b! Welcome and thank you :D


Hello!

I fall somewhere in the 3 range!

One day I'll put some pictures up (when my desktop pc which is holding the pics is back in commission)

You all have such beautiful curls!

Hello :) can't wait to see your pics, and thank you!


I'm in! I am really starting to love an appreciate my curls, after a lifetime of fighting them (though not so much with styling- mostly the detangling).

Yay! I'm happy to hear that. I only discovered my natural texture about a year ago, because previously, I damaged/heat styled my hair so much, it wasn't like how it is now/naturally.

I'm here!

Thanx for this thread CurlyCurves! This is great!

You're welcome, and hiii! SO glad we're all coming together :)


I'm a 3A who always wanted curls like curlycurves'. But with all the compliments I've received comes an appreciation for my "sausage curls". :D I don't know if I can post pics yet. I'm thinking of getting a photobucket.

Thank you :-_ but look at Quixii. She's a 3a and her hair. is. amazing.

Totally get Photobucket, or something like that. I wanna see those sausage curls!


Idk if u guys saw my lil rant in the other thread but...i was thinking about making a type 3 thread..lol!!! Glad you did it CC!

I wear my hair in a WnG pretty much everyday. The way i do mine is just to make to sections in the shower, rake my conditioner through and then put small globs of gel in and rake it through on top of the conditioner i leave-in. I have more conditioner in my hair than i do gel.

I am also a finger comber now. Although i'm thinking about pulling out my Denman tonite for the first time in MONTHS just to thoroughly detangle and massage my scalp...it is therapeutic!

I need therapy

:-D me too.

I used to WnG daily also. But I get a lot of tangles. So I am currently experimenting with different ways of stretching, mainly banding (I don't get very nice twist/braid outs). I don't leave anything in my hair, though.

I fingercomb also, but always follow up with a wide tooth comb then my Denman.


I'm not a curly, but I just wanted pop in say you ladies have gorgeous, enviable hair!

Keep rocking those curls girls! :rockerdud:

Thank you :D


I shall!

I've been under a lot of stress lately...and have been trying to find different ways to calm down...i don't do well with stress anymore like i used to as a kid...especially when its intense.

But caring for my hair does help. Nothing like jumping in the shower and fingercombing to my heart's content! It just makes me feel SO much better!
But add in the the magical bristles of that Denman??! It's a treat!

I wish i could go to a spa and have them finger comb my hair and run a Denman through it and then have my back massaged! That would be AWESOME!!! Lol!

*sigh* a girl can dream tho

I hope things get better for you, hun.

And, lmao, I'd love that! If I could find a salon where they treat my hair just how I do, I'd be SO happy.


I'm so excited that this thread exists...but now I don't know what to post to it!

So, I'll just throw something out there:

What does your hair do that you're certain only your hair does....or at least it feels like it?

Let's get some Type 3 stories and commiseration going. Maybe then we'll uncover some hair type specific topics.

I'm so excited, too, even though I made it :D

Umm, in regards to your question .. not sure. There's a lot I feel only my hair does, but I'll have to get back to you on that one..




I freakin love being a curly girl!

Me too :-D, and my hair also gets really soft in humid weather.


Hello all!

YAY! You're here :D


Has anyone here very tried to capture the volume of curls? I had HUGE hair today, super curly (the clumps didn't break up. They were just...diffuse? I don't know the word.) Anyway, it made me laugh and I wanted a picture SOOOOO bad. And all my pictures just looked like...CurlyCap.

Guh.

lol

OMG. This SO happens to me. In fact, it happened today! I had BIG hair today, and it looked awesome (bar the bloody FRIZZ). I love big hair. But it didn't look half as awesome in pics :/ it was so annoying, like a secret I couldn't share.


I don't know if I belong here....my hair is more 2c than 2b now days since its recovering quite nicely from heat damage (poor hair!). Looking at pictures of other 3s and I think I may be more 3a some days, but I can usually still brush my hair and get waves (kinda poofy ones though, and they get poofier and curlier as my hair gets better). I may just re type myself...ick, I don't know if I'm a wavy or a curly!

Pics, pics!


Well, post pictures, silly!

I second this :-)


Yeah same here! I've had hair washes that turned my hair flatter than it is. That and the 3's examples in the Hair Type guide all have shorter hair than I so it's difficult to compare as curls change when they grow longer.. ie. The top of my hair is relatively straight, and so the curls sorta gradually pop out as it goes to the bottom..

And as for the 3's examples in the Hair Type post, has anyone else had this problem too?

I have a problem with the examples in the hair type post. It's confusing, and I can't relate to it :/ not only that, it doesn't even have any pics for type 4s! But maybe that's because there's not much type 4s on here, and if they get the pics from Google without permission, they may be subject to copyright, or summin'.


agreed!! I also find that there are so many different types of curls that different 3as look different, as with different 3bs and 3cs. It's hard to classify

One thing I've been wondering for a while, which may end up helping, is what is the diameter of your ringlets/curls? Of course mine varies a lot from day to day, but ... I'm still a little curious!! I have yet to measure my own, and basically can't til my next wash day hahaha

How do you check? Mine change also, depending on how well I let it dry. If I let them clump completely on their own - awesome. If not? Not so awesome. My curls change day to day.


How big is a "sharpie"? Google wasn't helpful.

/ CMG

You know like, a whiteboard or permanant marker? That size. HTH?

CurlyCurves
July 4th, 2012, 06:58 PM
Second day hair: I don't.

In fact, my 1st day hair is 2nd day hair, since I co-wash at night and sleep on it.

For me, curl formation is based on water and clumping. Anything else breaks up clumps. It's a losing battle and I find it easier to co-wash every night.

Maybe if I were willing to wear my hair in a braid or up the second day it would be easier. I'm starting to get the length to do that, but it's not necessary yet.

OMG, YES!

I always feel like the ONLY curly who can't get multiple day hair :/ all the well known naturals with type 3 or 4 hair get multiple day hair, but me? I get frizz and tangles that could rival a hobo. Sigh.

But when I stretch, twist, or braid out - it's doable.

Quixii
July 4th, 2012, 07:10 PM
My hair isn't as nice the second or third day, but it usually looks nice enough that I'm not embarrassed by it or anything. Especially lately, my go-to style after day 1 is to do a pretzel bun with the ends left loose, which keeps my hair up but looks like I have a short ponytail with the curly ends. And the last few inches of my hair keep the curls a lot better. Especially with some leave-in after I wash it, they're okay. :)


ETA:

YAY! You're here :D
Aw, thanks for the warm welcome. :)

cmg
July 4th, 2012, 07:17 PM
You know like, a whiteboard or permanant marker? That size. HTH?
OkiDoki :D

I had a self-induced hair-disaster yesterday: With great delight and a good portion of fear(-lessness) - I decided to brush my hair! :cool::D:rolleyes: It was funny while it lasted. Very funny actually. I wetted it right afterwards so I'm Ok again :D

Only a true 3 or perhaps 4 will realize what earth-shattering effect something like brushing or combing can have on you. I havent done this for a very long time, so I really indulged myself this time, hi hi.

So, what do you guys do for fun? :)

/ CMG

drquartz1970
July 4th, 2012, 07:19 PM
3a/3b here. I also have some 2c and 3c hair too. Beginning to appreciate having curly hair now that it is longer! I find my hair can be unpredictable on some days with a mind of it's own and changing textures depending on the weather. To sum up: curly hair may be a pain at times to manage but it is NEVER boring!

Tisiloves
July 4th, 2012, 07:25 PM
Dear curlies, can I ask you a question? Does your hair feel like a fluffy cloud? Mine does if I pin curl, but I'm not sure if the real McCoy would.

CurlyCap
July 4th, 2012, 07:33 PM
Dear curlies, can I ask you a question? Does your hair feel like a fluffy cloud? Mine does if I pin curl, but I'm not sure if the real McCoy would.

Uh....sometimes? Sometimes it feels like an angry cloud.

My hair changes day to day, and sometimes it dries so that all the curls are perfect and ringlets and the product has all perfectly disappeared and it's soft. Then I touch it a lot, it gets frizzy...and even softer.

Sometimes the hair is going in a million different directions, and all the pointy ends going in different directions makes it feel rough. Like a pillow with feathers poking out.

Oddly, it's the softest when it's brushed out with a little oil. Terrible for fashion, but it makes my head feel like a puppy or kitten.

So I think the total impression is soft, with lots of unpredictability. When I was little my hair was long and my friends didn't believe me when I said my hair made the best pillow ever. I'd just bunch it up under my head and fall asleep.

ByGrace90
July 4th, 2012, 07:43 PM
Hey Curlies!
I love this thread. I have been meaning to put up a picture of my natural hair, but I've noticed I've never taken pictures with my curly hair, only straight! I plan on changing that. I don't want to hide my curls anymore. My hair looks a lot like Jennifer Freeman's from My Wife and Kids, only definitely not the length. My hair is MBL right now stretched, but only shoulder length when curly. So sad. That's the main reason why I don't wear my curls out more. I wish my length showed more.

Anyway, I've given up the straightener for the past 5 months and my hair has grown about 5 inches! I would love to have my hair length between MBL and Waist when its curly. I am so worried my hair won't weigh down. If it stays at shoulder length I am going crazy! But I figure I will just let it grow for the next year and see what happens. Do any other curlies have this problem?

AND... also. What protective styles do you guys use? Right now with my curly hair being so short, I don't have a lot of options to do fancy buns. I do a sock bun, Pony tail, or a braid. Any suggestions?

P.S. So glad this thread is here. I don't know any other girls with my hair type, being the only mixed girl in my group of friends. =)

HappyHair87
July 4th, 2012, 09:03 PM
For second day hair....

I do my WnGs in the morning only. Let it dry as much as possible throughout the day(takes about 8-12 hrs for my hair to dry completely). At nite...instead of doing the standard pineapple, I pull all my hair in a low ponytail using an ouchless head band (basically a low "puff"). This helps my hair lay how I like it too and minimizes tangles for me.

In the morning I spray water, fluff and shake. I usually like to redo it but sometimes I'm in a rush. It will have a bit more frizz to it but it's definitely wearable.

Yes...my hair does feel like a fluffy cloud. :agree:

HappyHair87
July 4th, 2012, 09:06 PM
Anybody else here find it easier to care for your curls as it gets longer?

To me it seems the longer my hair gets, the more I can simplify my regimen. My regi has gotten STUPID simple now! Can't wait to see how it's gonna be when it stretches to waist length!:D

jeanniet
July 4th, 2012, 09:26 PM
I waver on the edge of 2c/3a. Most of my life I've treated my hair as wavy, but it seems to want to be curlier now and I want to encourage that, but I'm kind of struggling with it. I can do a CG wash method, but I don't know how to get it dry without it coming into contact/rubbing on something and frizzing up. If it was shorter, it wouldn't be so hard, but at this length if I put it up or braid it will take forever to dry (in the summer!) and if I leave it down then it's frizzing. I'm using a curling cream to get the curls to clump, and that's working, but I'm still getting the frizzes just from the hair moving around. Quixii, our hair is similar in type--how the heck do you do it?

kitschy
July 4th, 2012, 09:28 PM
Sharpie sized curls here.

jeanniet
July 4th, 2012, 09:30 PM
Anybody else here find it easier to care for your curls as it gets longer?

To me it seems the longer my hair gets, the more I can simplify my regimen. My regi has gotten STUPID simple now! Can't wait to see how it's gonna be when it stretches to waist length!:D
I'm having more trouble, not less. Serves me right for not doing this curly stuff when my hair was shorter. Please enlighten me; I would appreciate it soooo much! I can always do a little tweaking to adapt it to my type.

HappyHair87
July 4th, 2012, 09:44 PM
U would think that bc my hair is more on the kinkier side of the 3s, that I'd have to do myhair in lots of sections when I do my hair in the shower.

I went from doing 4-6 sections to just 2 sections now. Ive stopped using my comb. I fingercomb pretty much exclusively now. I have no idea why it has gotten easier to do my hair now. I spend about 15 min doing my hair in the shower. The other 5-10 min is for my shower duties. It used to take me 30 minutes to do my hair in the shower and then the 5-10 minutes for my other shower things.

Awful!

spirals
July 4th, 2012, 11:20 PM
Sharpie sized curls here.

I think I have 1-inch curling-iron-sized spirals. People ask if it's natural or curled.

jeanniet
July 4th, 2012, 11:25 PM
My hair is almost dry now, and I do have nicely clumped loose spiral curls, but I'm at a loss about what to do with the frizzy sections that are wanting to tangle up with each other. It'll be fully dry by morning (and I sleep in a cap), but then what do I do with it in the morning? I can spray/scrunch and refresh the curls, but still have the frizz sections--have to figure out a way to eliminate those because otherwise I have to comb. My hair will be a mess otherwise. It's more than surface frizz--I'm used to that--but more long sections that are sort of roughed up/tangled/frizzed. I hope that makes sense!

CurlyCap
July 4th, 2012, 11:34 PM
My hair is almost dry now, and I do have nicely clumped loose spiral curls, but I'm at a loss about what to do with the frizzy sections that are wanting to tangle up with each other. It'll be fully dry by morning (and I sleep in a cap), but then what do I do with it in the morning? I can spray/scrunch and refresh the curls, but still have the frizz sections--have to figure out a way to eliminate those because otherwise I have to comb. My hair will be a mess otherwise. It's more than surface frizz--I'm used to that--but more long sections that are sort of roughed up/tangled/frizzed. I hope that makes sense!

You're asking for Second Day Hair Jenniet. Hop on the bandwagon of hopeful wishers!

Have you tried damp bunning overnight? If your spirals are big, it shouldn't be that different than the spirals caused by the bun, but the frizz would be reduced and you could wear the curls the next morning.

MissTulip
July 4th, 2012, 11:46 PM
In the 3's here :) My curls turned to waves while I was pregnant last year (see sig pic)...finally, 8 months after having my baby, the curls are returning.

jeanniet
July 4th, 2012, 11:59 PM
You're asking for Second Day Hair Jenniet. Hop on the bandwagon of hopeful wishers!

Have you tried damp bunning overnight? If your spirals are big, it shouldn't be that different than the spirals caused by the bun, but the frizz would be reduced and you could wear the curls the next morning.
Lol, I want 3rd and 4th day hair, too! I can do it wavy/combed out, but curly needs work. I really don't want to wash every dang night--my hair will be wet all the time, and I don't even want to think about winter. I do damp bun overnight sometimes, so I'll try that tonight and see how it goes.

HappyHair87
July 5th, 2012, 12:17 AM
Who besides me uses gel? I think this contributes to my multiple day hair ability:laugh: I don't get hard curls anymore with it since i've figured out my leave-in to gel ratio. So on day one i don't scrunch out the crunch...and my curls seem to last as the days go by.

If i want to, i can make my WnG last for 4-5 days....it all depends on how i did my hair on day 1 tho.

MissTulip
July 5th, 2012, 01:40 AM
Who besides me uses gel? I think this contributes to my multiple day hair ability:laugh: I don't get hard curls anymore with it since i've figured out my leave-in to gel ratio. So on day one i don't scrunch out the crunch...and my curls seem to last as the days go by.

If i want to, i can make my WnG last for 4-5 days....it all depends on how i did my hair on day 1 tho.

In my sig pic I didn't use gel...I just left my regular Tresemme conditioner in it and let it dry naturally. I can't get another day out of it though...tangles too much and drives me nuts.

My 2-3 sometimes 4 day hair is a coconut oil base (immediately after shower, still soaking wet) with gel on top of that. Works beautifully in this very dry climate...curls still feel moist until the next wash and stay defined:)

DaniVerde
July 5th, 2012, 02:52 AM
I waver on the edge of 2c/3a. Most of my life I've treated my hair as wavy, but it seems to want to be curlier now and I want to encourage that, but I'm kind of struggling with it. I can do a CG wash method, but I don't know how to get it dry without it coming into contact/rubbing on something and frizzing up. If it was shorter, it wouldn't be so hard, but at this length if I put it up or braid it will take forever to dry (in the summer!) and if I leave it down then it's frizzing. I'm using a curling cream to get the curls to clump, and that's working, but I'm still getting the frizzes just from the hair moving around. Quixii, our hair is similar in type--how the heck do you do it?

I have a similar problem, even though my hair is nowhere near as long as yours, jeanniet! My hair gets frizzy as it's drying..if it touches anything (including a shirt), that section becomes frizz-city. The only solution I could come up with is not to get dressed until it's fully dry...but that's not exactly practical :D


Who besides me uses gel? I think this contributes to my multiple day hair ability:laugh: I don't get hard curls anymore with it since i've figured out my leave-in to gel ratio. So on day one i don't scrunch out the crunch...and my curls seem to last as the days go by.

If i want to, i can make my WnG last for 4-5 days....it all depends on how i did my hair on day 1 tho.

I use aloe vera gel, if that counts? :) But I still don't have nice 2nd day hair...


In general, it's tough going while I still have relaxed bits in my hair...I'm hoping to have most of them trimmed out in October...

Quixii
July 5th, 2012, 03:40 AM
Quixii, our hair is similar in type--how the heck do you do it?
Honestly, it's probably more ignorance than actual ability. :p Meaning, if my curls don't look so great on the second or third or whatever day, I just ignore them and pretend the look great. If they really don't look great, I put it up in a bun. Problems all solved! :D And of course, since curly hair is so unpredictable, sometimes they do look great, and I just rock it and pretend I did something great to make them great.
I've recently started using the Shea Moisture deep treatment as a leave in, and it's really helped my curls. :)

CurlyCurves
July 5th, 2012, 05:50 AM
My hair isn't as nice the second or third day, but it usually looks nice enough that I'm not embarrassed by it or anything. Especially lately, my go-to style after day 1 is to do a pretzel bun with the ends left loose, which keeps my hair up but looks like I have a short ponytail with the curly ends. And the last few inches of my hair keep the curls a lot better. Especially with some leave-in after I wash it, they're okay.


ETA:

Aw, thanks for the warm welcome.

You're more than welcome :)

See, why can you get second day and I can't? :(


OkiDoki

I had a self-induced hair-disaster yesterday: With great delight and a good portion of fear(-lessness) - I decided to brush my hair! It was funny while it lasted. Very funny actually. I wetted it right afterwards so I'm Ok again

Only a true 3 or perhaps 4 will realize what earth-shattering effect something like brushing or combing can have on you. I havent done this for a very long time, so I really indulged myself this time, hi hi.

So, what do you guys do for fun?

/ CMG

Hahaha, I do that sometimes! But am I the only one who gets at least one *snap* when they dry brush, despite being gentle? :/


3a/3b here. I also have some 2c and 3c hair too. Beginning to appreciate having curly hair now that it is longer! I find my hair can be unpredictable on some days with a mind of it's own and changing textures depending on the weather. To sum up: curly hair may be a pain at times to manage but it is NEVER boring!

Yay! Hello and welcome :)

Yes, curly hair is unpredictable, but oh so fun ;) and when it's good? It's GOOD.


Dear curlies, can I ask you a question? Does your hair feel like a fluffy cloud? Mine does if I pin curl, but I'm not sure if the real McCoy would.

Yeah :) my hair is sooooooooooooooo soft. I love it. So many people are surprised by its softness. I think most people have the perception that all curly hair is coarse.


Hey Curlies!
I love this thread. I have been meaning to put up a picture of my natural hair, but I've noticed I've never taken pictures with my curly hair, only straight! I plan on changing that. I don't want to hide my curls anymore. My hair looks a lot like Jennifer Freeman's from My Wife and Kids, only definitely not the length. My hair is MBL right now stretched, but only shoulder length when curly. So sad. That's the main reason why I don't wear my curls out more. I wish my length showed more.

Anyway, I've given up the straightener for the past 5 months and my hair has grown about 5 inches! I would love to have my hair length between MBL and Waist when its curly. I am so worried my hair won't weigh down. If it stays at shoulder length I am going crazy! But I figure I will just let it grow for the next year and see what happens. Do any other curlies have this problem?

AND... also. What protective styles do you guys use? Right now with my curly hair being so short, I don't have a lot of options to do fancy buns. I do a sock bun, Pony tail, or a braid. Any suggestions?

P.S. So glad this thread is here. I don't know any other girls with my hair type, being the only mixed girl in my group of friends. =)

Yeah, I feel you on the shrinkage! I'm SL curly and APL stretched ¨___¨

It's just a fact of life, unfortunately. Physics, and all that, but I've seen long haired tightly curlies. Teri from Tightlycurly.com, for one. So it'll likely happen :-)

AFM, I don't really protective style that much, but when I do, I just throw it up in a bun or ponytail. Nothing really special. I'm so fiddly doing 'styles', that I end up getting breakage/shedding and it defeats the object of it being PS, LOL!

And glad you're here too :) Although I know other biracials (not that many, though. Not right now, anyway), everyone else either A. Ruins their hair or B. doesn't have my hair type. I've met very few 3bs in my lifetime.


For second day hair....

I do my WnGs in the morning only. Let it dry as much as possible throughout the day(takes about 8-12 hrs for my hair to dry completely). At nite...instead of doing the standard pineapple, I pull all my hair in a low ponytail using an ouchless head band (basically a low "puff"). This helps my hair lay how I like it too and minimizes tangles for me.

In the morning I spray water, fluff and shake. I usually like to redo it but sometimes I'm in a rush. It will have a bit more frizz to it but it's definitely wearable.



LOL, wish I could do this! My hair tangles on tangles.


Anybody else here find it easier to care for your curls as it gets longer?

To me it seems the longer my hair gets, the more I can simplify my regimen. My regi has gotten STUPID simple now! Can't wait to see how it's gonna be when it stretches to waist length!

Hmmm, not sure. I regard my regi as simple anyway :D

CurlyCurves
July 5th, 2012, 05:54 AM
Have any of you girls tried banding?

I get these results from it;

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/482994_4293040764652_1616327172_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/483041_4293045044759_863699499_n.jpg.

I can get second day hair from this as there's less tangles.

CurlyCurves
July 5th, 2012, 06:04 AM
I have a similar problem, even though my hair is nowhere near as long as yours, jeanniet! My hair gets frizzy as it's drying..if it touches anything (including a shirt), that section becomes frizz-city. The only solution I could come up with is not to get dressed until it's fully dry...but that's not exactly practical :D


Same here. I have to be very careful. The worst is when I'd do WnGs, and it'd be wet on the way to work. I'd be standing on the underground platform, the train would come and the wind would blow my hair. In my head, I'd be cursing.

And it's always windy when I do WnGs, it seems :mad:


Sharpie sized curls here.

OMG, you're the same hair type as me! Hello! I'm perving through your pics :eyebrows: I see you're more 3a, though, or is that because the weight of your hair is pulling it down?

ETA; I can see your bottom layer is def 3b! Eee, that happens to me too! I get better ringlets on the bottom :)


I waver on the edge of 2c/3a. Most of my life I've treated my hair as wavy, but it seems to want to be curlier now and I want to encourage that, but I'm kind of struggling with it. I can do a CG wash method, but I don't know how to get it dry without it coming into contact/rubbing on something and frizzing up. If it was shorter, it wouldn't be so hard, but at this length if I put it up or braid it will take forever to dry (in the summer!) and if I leave it down then it's frizzing. I'm using a curling cream to get the curls to clump, and that's working, but I'm still getting the frizzes just from the hair moving around. Quixii, our hair is similar in type--how the heck do you do it?

Yeah, it takes a LOT of practise and trial and error to work this one out. It still happens to me. Good WnGs are to be celebrated because they can go wrong in an instant.


I think I have 1-inch curling-iron-sized spirals. People ask if it's natural or curled.

Lovely :) I get asked if my hair is natural too. Like, lmao, nope. I get up EVERY morning and curl my hair :rollin:


Who besides me uses gel? I think this contributes to my multiple day hair. I don't get hard curls anymore with it since i've figured out my leave-in to gel ratio. So on day one i don't scrunch out the crunch...and my curls seem to last as the days go by.

If i want to, i can make my WnG last for 4-5 days....it all depends on how i did my hair on day 1 tho.

Gel? My hair laughs at me if I try to put any product in it :laugh:

kitschy
July 5th, 2012, 06:25 AM
OMG, you're the same hair type as me! Hello! I'm perving through your pics :eyebrows: I see you're more 3a, though, or is that because the weight of your hair is pulling it down?




The weight of my hair is elongating my curls. They're still sharpie sized but it's like a spring that's being pulled on ....the coils lengthen as my hair gets longer. I know this makes me sound like a simpleton, but I never knew that could happen. I've never had my hair longer than APL until I joined up here. I wished I would have known that longer hair, at least for me, is much more,...um should I say....contained. It is just much easier for me to handle, and like Quixi said, if I have a bad hair day and it goes frizzy or too stringy, I can always put it up.

3azza
July 5th, 2012, 07:10 AM
Anybody else here find it easier to care for your curls as it gets longer?

To me it seems the longer my hair gets, the more I can simplify my regimen. My regi has gotten STUPID simple now! Can't wait to see how it's gonna be when it stretches to waist length!:D

yes totally, longer hair looks better on 2nd,3rd... hairdays to me :D and less tangles somehow

CurlyCurves
July 5th, 2012, 07:20 AM
The weight of my hair is elongating my curls. They're still sharpie sized but it's like a spring that's being pulled on ....the coils lengthen as my hair gets longer. I know this makes me sound like a simpleton, but I never knew that could happen. I've never had my hair longer than APL until I joined up here. I wished I would have known that longer hair, at least for me, is much more,...um should I say....contained. It is just much easier for me to handle, and like Quixi said, if I have a bad hair day and it goes frizzy or too stringy, I can always put it up.

Ah, I see!

longhairedleah
July 5th, 2012, 08:20 AM
Anybody else here find it easier to care for your curls as it gets longer?

To me it seems the longer my hair gets, the more I can simplify my regimen. My regi has gotten STUPID simple now! Can't wait to see how it's gonna be when it stretches to waist length!:D

agreed! especially since I've been doing co-washing! So much easier to cover my whole scalp and get it clean!


The weight of my hair is elongating my curls. They're still sharpie sized but it's like a spring that's being pulled on ....the coils lengthen as my hair gets longer. I know this makes me sound like a simpleton, but I never knew that could happen. I've never had my hair longer than APL until I joined up here. I wished I would have known that longer hair, at least for me, is much more,...um should I say....contained. It is just much easier for me to handle, and like Quixi said, if I have a bad hair day and it goes frizzy or too stringy, I can always put it up.

Agreed! Although my curls range from whiteboard marker to sharpie sized... lately more whiteboard haha. Not sure if it's because it's longer, or because I've switched oils and now CO-wash.... Maybe I'll try going back to castor/olive oil for curly days (but avocado makes my hair like siiiiilk)

I don't use any gel though.... I like my natural kick. Never really tried Aloe Vera Gel as a leave in though, I suppose i could give that a try, get my curls to be a bit tighter perhaps...

ariesfairies
July 5th, 2012, 09:13 AM
agreed!! I also find that there are so many different types of curls that different 3as look different, as with different 3bs and 3cs. It's hard to classify

One thing I've been wondering for a while, which may end up helping, is what is the diameter of your ringlets/curls? Of course mine varies a lot from day to day, but ... I'm still a little curious!! I have yet to measure my own, and basically can't til my next wash day hahaha

Yeah.. I've been meaning to contact the person who made the post but I'm not sure how to explain the situation to her!


The thread updated so fast that I hadn't been able to respond earlier, but my curls are about 1-2cm in diameter on average :)




Ok, as for trying banding, I did do it during my high school years! I would do it with my hair wet, before sleeping it off to dry in the hairbands, and well.. I don't know, the texture of my hair wasn't so pleasant, like I had this sort of spindly frizz to my hair after I brushed it out. It's most likely because of having to leave to dry all bundled up, but also the strain on the natural grain of the hair that makes it curl.. After it all, I didn't think the waves suited my face shape >_<

longhairedleah
July 5th, 2012, 10:16 AM
alrighty, I washed my hair last night, and although I should have measured last night when my curls were fresh, I just measured now... They've definitely stretched out due to sleeping, but I'm not sure if that really affects the diameter...

So in short:

My curl diameter varies between 2cm and 3cm (today at least).

Quixii
July 5th, 2012, 01:32 PM
Okay.. what is a WnG??!?

DaniVerde
July 5th, 2012, 01:55 PM
Okay.. what is a WnG??!?

Oh, thank you for asking...I was certain that that was another bit of LHC-ism that I wasn't yet privy to :D

jeanniet
July 5th, 2012, 04:19 PM
WnG is wash n go. i figued that much out! Daily WnG just isn't practical at longer lengths, but if my hair was shorter I'd probably be doing that.

I love the SheaMoisture line, and I've heard the deep treatment masque makes a good leave in/curl cream, so I need to try it out. The moisture milk is awesome, but I'm finding the smoothie is a bit too much, although I could use it for SMT. I think the smoothie would be better for 4 hair, or maybe 3c.

jeanniet
July 5th, 2012, 04:31 PM
The weight of my hair is elongating my curls. They're still sharpie sized but it's like a spring that's being pulled on ....the coils lengthen as my hair gets longer. I know this makes me sound like a simpleton, but I never knew that could happen. I've never had my hair longer than APL until I joined up here. I wished I would have known that longer hair, at least for me, is much more,...um should I say....contained. It is just much easier for me to handle, and like Quixi said, if I have a bad hair day and it goes frizzy or too stringy, I can always put it up.
Yes, mine, too. There are days when they're tighter, but generally speaking they're pretty stretched out. I'd say that unstretched they'd be about 1/2" in diameter.

My hair was pretty much a mess this morning. Too much curl cream, for one thing, so it was too heavy/glompy (surely that is a word?), but it just felt so tangly! I have to rethink this a bit. I think I'm enough of a wavy that I can get away with combing in the morning and then spraying/scrunching. It's in a bun most of the time, anyway, so if it's not perfect it doesn't matter that much. It's just really hard for me to get past that tangly feeling.

Quixii
July 5th, 2012, 04:37 PM
WnG is wash n go. i figued that much out! Daily WnG just isn't practical at longer lengths, but if my hair was shorter I'd probably be doing that.

I love the SheaMoisture line, and I've heard the deep treatment masque makes a good leave in/curl cream, so I need to try it out. The moisture milk is awesome, but I'm finding the smoothie is a bit too much, although I could use it for SMT. I think the smoothie would be better for 4 hair, or maybe 3c.
Oh, okay! I was thinking that might be it. That's what I used to do all the time before I got the SheaMoisture stuff. (Course I still only washed 2-4 times a week.)

This is the first time I've tried anything from the line, and I may have to go and try some of the others! The curls have been liking the deep treatment as a leave-in. One of these days I should actually try it as a deep treatment. :p

Avital88
July 5th, 2012, 04:57 PM
Im usually on the 2c side,but now that its humid outside i have ŗ head full of curls again,finally i can say 3a ! I would love tighter curls though,im gonna see if no conditioner Will help to get more out of it.

Avital88
July 5th, 2012, 05:06 PM
I also need to upload &#224; pic of my curls,my camera is broken and webcams just doesnt capture it right..

cmg
July 5th, 2012, 06:53 PM
WnG?
Weird & Gross? No just kidding. It means Wash & Go as a styling method, as opposed to refresh & go.


Dear curlies, can I ask you a question? Does your hair feel like a fluffy cloud? Mine does if I pin curl, but I'm not sure if the real McCoy would.
Brushed or combed, yes. And on a bad hair day the same hair feels like cotton candy instead. Or when it needs clarifying.


Anybody else here find it easier to care for your curls as it gets longer?
YESSS! It's such a huge difference.
Either long or just a few inches short. Everything in between is just high maintenance.


Ive stopped using my comb. I fingercomb pretty much exclusively now.
Yupp. Thats it.


Who besides me uses gel? I think this contributes to my multiple day hair ability
Yes it does for me too. My curles are somewhat damaged and dont clump well without it. After washing I put it up in a towel that sucks up excess water for a while. Then I scrunch a blend of 50/50 aloe vera gel and other hair gel in it. Not much, just a bit. After this - no touching! Then I sleep with this in the hair and fingercomb it into place in the morning. Sometimes I help up the curles with some salt spray or Kimberlillys defrizz-spray before I leave the house. It really keeps the frizz out in this humid clima. I live directly at the seaside.

I have stopped using hair gels with alcohols in them, they dull the hair and color. Mostly I use homemade flax seed or psyllium-seed gel. I avoid gels with silicone, Body Shops is ok though.

Next day I can wet my hair just a bit and put a small amount of Aloe vera gel in it again (sometimes together with some vegetable oil or amla oil). With this regime I can go everything between 1-7 days until next wash. Not if I do extensive workout of course. I dont expect this to work beyond waist lenght though *Sigh* It will be too tangly.

Teri from Tightlycurly.com - what an inspiration! I whish my mother had met her. I had to figure everything out for myself.
I looked abit like this half my life:
http://i39.tinypic.com/1j0m7n.jpg
(Oops, must have been the wrong photo :D

Back to serious. I had really bad hair when I was younger, partly due to a thyreoid condition. I looked like the girl on the 5:th picture from the bottom, on this page (and abit like the last pic too):
http://pgbeautyscience.com/hair-loss.php

Not any more :)

/ CMG

CurlyCap
July 5th, 2012, 08:02 PM
I'm really happy about this picture, and happy that I'm starting to get enough length to put my hair up.

Just pic spamming, because I love threads with pictures. :D

http://i49.tinypic.com/5aklub.jpg

Any curly updos you're fond of ladies?

And where is GRU?!

kitschy
July 5th, 2012, 08:07 PM
Curlycap, that is gorgeous! And thanks for the picture, I love pictures too. :happydance:

proo
July 5th, 2012, 09:39 PM
CurlyCap, truly adorable.
I want your hair.
But only when it does that.

CurlyCap
July 5th, 2012, 10:02 PM
CurlyCap, truly adorable.
I want your hair.
But only when it does that.

lol. Well, *I* want my hair, when it does that.

So you'll have to get in line.

The hair, it is unpredictable. :D

CurlyCurves
July 5th, 2012, 10:21 PM
Im usually on the 2c side,but now that its humid outside i have ŗ head full of curls again,finally i can say 3a ! I would love tighter curls though,im gonna see if no conditioner Will help to get more out of it.

Welcome :)


I also need to upload ŗ pic of my curls,my camera is broken and webcams just doesnt capture it right..

I wanna seeeeeee! :D


I'm really happy about this picture, and happy that I'm starting to get enough length to put my hair up.

Just pic spamming, because I love threads with pictures. :D

http://i49.tinypic.com/5aklub.jpg

Any curly updos you're fond of ladies?

And where is GRU?!

I spam all over this forum with my pictures. I'm always worried people will get sick of my pictures, but I take so many and can never stick to just posting one :doh:

Your hair looks amaze.

CurlyCurves
July 5th, 2012, 10:26 PM
By the way, fellow curlies, I done the unthinkable and flat ironed my hair today. Eek! :pray: for my curls - I'm BEGGING them to spring back to normal when I do my DC routine on Saturday (usually Fridays, but I wanna have my hair straight for work on Saturday).

Pics;

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/602526_4295861875178_1842866950_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/376839_4295650669898_461216285_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/376855_4295857635072_784364573_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/577164_4295854154985_770634146_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/531620_4295947517319_1563798772_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/396646_4295946957305_181298376_n.jpg

KittyPTY
July 5th, 2012, 10:41 PM
Hello! :) Im 3b. I would like to ask a question, i have different kind of hairs i take few hairs and i see have different thickness, i have some very verrrrrrrrrry fine hairs, and very few are thick, lol! but more fine strands than thicker... i wonder if im not the only one with this problem, i don't know the reason? genetics?:shrug:

KittyPTY
July 5th, 2012, 11:02 PM
WnG?
Weird & Gross? No just kidding. It means Wash & Go as a styling method, as opposed to refresh & go.


Brushed or combed, yes. And on a bad hair day the same hair feels like cotton candy instead. Or when it needs clarifying.


YESSS! It's such a huge difference.
Either long or just a few inches short. Everything in between is just high maintenance.


Yupp. Thats it.


Yes it does for me too. My curles are somewhat damaged and dont clump well without it. After washing I put it up in a towel that sucks up excess water for a while. Then I scrunch a blend of 50/50 aloe vera gel and other hair gel in it. Not much, just a bit. After this - no touching! Then I sleep with this in the hair and fingercomb it into place in the morning. Sometimes I help up the curles with some salt spray or Kimberlillys defrizz-spray before I leave the house. It really keeps the frizz out in this humid clima. I live directly at the seaside.

I have stopped using hair gels with alcohols in them, they dull the hair and color. Mostly I use homemade flax seed or psyllium-seed gel. I avoid gels with silicone, Body Shops is ok though.

Next day I can wet my hair just a bit and put a small amount of Aloe vera gel in it again (sometimes together with some vegetable oil or amla oil). With this regime I can go everything between 1-7 days until next wash. Not if I do extensive workout of course. I dont expect this to work beyond waist lenght though *Sigh* It will be too tangly.

Teri from Tightlycurly.com - what an inspiration! I whish my mother had met her. I had to figure everything out for myself.
I looked abit like this half my life:
http://i39.tinypic.com/1j0m7n.jpg
(Oops, must have been the wrong photo :D

Back to serious. I had really bad hair when I was younger, partly due to a thyreoid condition. I looked like the girl on the 5:th picture from the bottom, on this page (and abit like the last pic too):
http://pgbeautyscience.com/hair-loss.php

Not any more :)

/ CMG


I asked my mom like 3 days ago why she used to cut my hair so short .. i had an afro lol when i was little. She said my hair was so frustrating that she took the scissors one day:P and cutted it all, leaving me an afro... since she is type 1 hair... she just didn't knew what to do... my sisters survived since they are type 2... I stood with my afro like until 8 years old that she started to chemically straighten it... and i did since i got to 23 years... but i left it without straighten it like 1 year and i noticed my hair growth lol! ...... and started researching on it. =) since every time i chemically straightened it i would shed hairs like there was no tomorrow.... =(

spirals
July 5th, 2012, 11:09 PM
I've figured out I can get a brush through it if I spray the brush with oil first. And then it stays in loose waves because the oil keeps it from absorbing moisture out of the air.

KittyPTY
July 5th, 2012, 11:11 PM
I'm really happy about this picture, and happy that I'm starting to get enough length to put my hair up.

Just pic spamming, because I love threads with pictures. :D

http://i49.tinypic.com/5aklub.jpg

Any curly updos you're fond of ladies?

And where is GRU?!

i love that pic, i love this thread .......!!!!!!!! i like to see how pretty other's curls are.. i wish mine were as pretty =<

CurlyCurves
July 5th, 2012, 11:14 PM
Hello! :) Im 3b. I would like to ask a question, i have different kind of hairs i take few hairs and i see have different thickness, i have some very verrrrrrrrrry fine hairs, and very few are thick, lol! but more fine strands than thicker... i wonder if im not the only one with this problem, i don't know the reason? genetics?:shrug:

That's normal :) I'm mostly F/M, but I swear I find the odd C one too.

CurlyCap
July 5th, 2012, 11:22 PM
I've figured out I can get a brush through it if I spray the brush with oil first. And then it stays in loose waves because the oil keeps it from absorbing moisture out of the air.

Sweet! I envy your dry brushing. Does your hair respond to humidity a lot? What happens? Does it all go POOF or do you go from 3a to 2c or.....inquiring minds want to know!

CurlyCap
July 5th, 2012, 11:23 PM
i love that pic, i love this thread .......!!!!!!!! i like to see how pretty other's curls are.. i wish mine were as pretty =<

I have lots of hideous pics from before I learned to do my hair if that makes you feel better. I'm trying to sleuth up a few from undergrad...but the CD-Rom is now so old most computers won't read it.

:lol:

stevie_lynn113
July 5th, 2012, 11:29 PM
Its nice to meet some more curlies 3a/b mix here I just started the curly girl method about 2 months ago and it has worked out perfectly!!

cmg
July 6th, 2012, 10:42 AM
I love all your pictures! So keep them coming :)

/ CMG

longhairedleah
July 6th, 2012, 12:06 PM
I'm really happy about this picture, and happy that I'm starting to get enough length to put my hair up.

Just pic spamming, because I love threads with pictures. :D

http://i49.tinypic.com/5aklub.jpg

Any curly updos you're fond of ladies?

And where is GRU?!

That is absolutely gorgeous!!! I

should stop running my fingers through my curls when I put my hair up (actually, all the time) and see if it can do that! It just never feels secure if so =)

HappyHair87
July 6th, 2012, 06:32 PM
I had the dumbest morning this morning!

I was supposed to be at a job meeting this morning. However, i overslept since i didn't get home from work until 12 at midnite (bus rider)....and would've caught the bus this morning...had i not had to catch it at 4 just to be at the meeting at 7. So i asked my cousin if she'd drop me off she said yeah.

Anywho...i hopped up at 5:45 this morning and rinsed my scalp and just put my rinse out in, finger detangled since i hadn't refreshed my wash n go for 2 days (yes...i had 2 day hair yesterday)...i keep forgetting to replenish my gel...so i used my almost last bits of gel too:mad:

So i called my cousin upon getting out of the shower to see if she was still coming....she overslept. Honestly...i wasn't even mad. Called my job and told them i couldn't make it...diffused my hair a bit, put it back in my low ponytail, put on my cap and got back in my bed.

Been here all day:laugh: I needed it tho!

Just thought i'd share...lol

CurlyCap
July 6th, 2012, 10:19 PM
I should stop running my fingers through my curls when I put my hair up (actually, all the time) and see if it can do that! It just never feels secure if so =)

While it breaks every curly girl rule, I run my hands through my hair all the time. It's part of the reason why my friends are used to seeing me look like Einstein. It's not how I always look, but it happens frequently enough that no one is surprised if they look up and I've destroyed my hair.

My things is, I can play with it, but don't pull it (like, try to fingercomb it dry). Usually then, all I'm doing is breaking up the curl and making it more diffuse/puffy.

As for updos, the best rule of thumb is to never entire the bathroom with a hairdo in mind. The hair will always veto your thoughts. Work around what your hair is already doing, and your inclinations to touch, and there will be sanity.

For example, if I put my hair up, I won't have anything to play with. So when a few random curls fall out, I leave them be. I know they'll be my toys for the day. :D

CurlyCap
July 7th, 2012, 12:53 AM
Recommendations Curlies?

My hair is being impossible. It's like it won't absorb anything it's craving.

My usual routine is to co-wash with something protein-free and silicone-light (like VO5 or suave). Then I ACV rinse with cool water and apply a fair bit of silicone-light conditioner as a leave-in. I co-wash everyday and have for years. Oil is added occasionally if I feel my hair is feeling brittle or I want some shine.

Lately, if I put the things in it that it likes (oils mostly and leave-in conditioner), none of it seems to absorb anymore. You know how products can disappear in curls? Well....it's stopped. So my hair feels dry all the time and leave-ins are just not working. Instead of absorbing it's just on the surface and tacky feeling.

So I shampoo'd. First time in a long time (months), but sometimes I just need to clarify. Shampoo then conditioner but that didn't do the trick. It just made the hair angry and more thirsty. So I deep conditioned, leave-in, oil...the routine. And my hair just vomits it all out again.

I did my mega deep treatment based on mashed avocados, olive oil, castor oil, ayurvedic herbs...my fool proof moisture bomb. No effect.

Something IS up. I went from having very few fairy knots to have at least one per clump. My hair feels....wiry....for a lack of any other word. I'm still adjusting to how thick some of my hair strands are this time around...but this is different. It's like my hair is made out of wire suddenly. So when I touch it it feels almost brittle, what I'm used to associated with "dry". But there isn't any obvious damage and not a split end in site.

I don't think it's mineral build-up. I end every co-wash with an ACV rinse and do a lemon juice rinse (citric acid) once a week.

Any ideas? It's very weird for a routine to just stop working like this, and as far as I can tell, none of my products have changed their ingredients.

longhairedleah
July 7th, 2012, 04:42 PM
Recommendations Curlies?

My hair is being impossible. It's like it won't absorb anything it's craving.

My usual routine is to co-wash with something protein-free and silicone-light (like VO5 or suave). Then I ACV rinse with cool water and apply a fair bit of silicone-light conditioner as a leave-in. I co-wash everyday and have for years. Oil is added occasionally if I feel my hair is feeling brittle or I want some shine.

Lately, if I put the things in it that it likes (oils mostly and leave-in conditioner), none of it seems to absorb anymore. You know how products can disappear in curls? Well....it's stopped. So my hair feels dry all the time and leave-ins are just not working. Instead of absorbing it's just on the surface and tacky feeling.

So I shampoo'd. First time in a long time (months), but sometimes I just need to clarify. Shampoo then conditioner but that didn't do the trick. It just made the hair angry and more thirsty. So I deep conditioned, leave-in, oil...the routine. And my hair just vomits it all out again.

I did my mega deep treatment based on mashed avocados, olive oil, castor oil, ayurvedic herbs...my fool proof moisture bomb. No effect.

Something IS up. I went from having very few fairy knots to have at least one per clump. My hair feels....wiry....for a lack of any other word. I'm still adjusting to how thick some of my hair strands are this time around...but this is different. It's like my hair is made out of wire suddenly. So when I touch it it feels almost brittle, what I'm used to associated with "dry". But there isn't any obvious damage and not a split end in site.

I don't think it's mineral build-up. I end every co-wash with an ACV rinse and do a lemon juice rinse (citric acid) once a week.

Any ideas? It's very weird for a routine to just stop working like this, and as far as I can tell, none of my products have changed their ingredients.

hmmm sounds like quite the dilemma! maybe the water in your shower is different somehow? A filter not working or something?

CurlyCurves
July 7th, 2012, 05:07 PM
Hello curly girlies! I have pics to share! As you guys may or may not know, I flat ironed my hair two days ago. I was really anxious that my curls would not revert back to normal, but thankfully, they have. I done my DC routine today also :)

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/293884_4307746212279_1975625049_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/554040_4307793093451_443074858_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/599668_4307807933822_625503764_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/547487_4307860375133_99279000_n.jpg

I'm one happy camper! :D I love my curls.


Its nice to meet some more curlies 3a/b mix here I just started the curly girl method about 2 months ago and it has worked out perfectly!!

Hello and welcome! I am a 3a/b also :) I'd love to see your hair! Do you have any pics?


Recommendations Curlies?

My hair is being impossible. It's like it won't absorb anything it's craving.

My usual routine is to co-wash with something protein-free and silicone-light (like VO5 or suave). Then I ACV rinse with cool water and apply a fair bit of silicone-light conditioner as a leave-in. I co-wash everyday and have for years. Oil is added occasionally if I feel my hair is feeling brittle or I want some shine.

Lately, if I put the things in it that it likes (oils mostly and leave-in conditioner), none of it seems to absorb anymore. You know how products can disappear in curls? Well....it's stopped. So my hair feels dry all the time and leave-ins are just not working. Instead of absorbing it's just on the surface and tacky feeling.

So I shampoo'd. First time in a long time (months), but sometimes I just need to clarify. Shampoo then conditioner but that didn't do the trick. It just made the hair angry and more thirsty. So I deep conditioned, leave-in, oil...the routine. And my hair just vomits it all out again.

I did my mega deep treatment based on mashed avocados, olive oil, castor oil, ayurvedic herbs...my fool proof moisture bomb. No effect.

Something IS up. I went from having very few fairy knots to have at least one per clump. My hair feels....wiry....for a lack of any other word. I'm still adjusting to how thick some of my hair strands are this time around...but this is different. It's like my hair is made out of wire suddenly. So when I touch it it feels almost brittle, what I'm used to associated with "dry". But there isn't any obvious damage and not a split end in site.

I don't think it's mineral build-up. I end every co-wash with an ACV rinse and do a lemon juice rinse (citric acid) once a week.

Any ideas? It's very weird for a routine to just stop working like this, and as far as I can tell, none of my products have changed their ingredients.

Hmm, that is weird. Sorry you're going through this.

Perhaps it is the lemon juice rinse drying your hair out? I'd drop that for a while and see if it improves. Remember, citric acid can be damaging to your hair if done too often.

Also, have you tried any moisturising treatments without protein?

jeanniet
July 7th, 2012, 05:22 PM
Recommendations Curlies?

My hair is being impossible. It's like it won't absorb anything it's craving.

My usual routine is to co-wash with something protein-free and silicone-light (like VO5 or suave). Then I ACV rinse with cool water and apply a fair bit of silicone-light conditioner as a leave-in. I co-wash everyday and have for years. Oil is added occasionally if I feel my hair is feeling brittle or I want some shine.

Lately, if I put the things in it that it likes (oils mostly and leave-in conditioner), none of it seems to absorb anymore. You know how products can disappear in curls? Well....it's stopped. So my hair feels dry all the time and leave-ins are just not working. Instead of absorbing it's just on the surface and tacky feeling.

So I shampoo'd. First time in a long time (months), but sometimes I just need to clarify. Shampoo then conditioner but that didn't do the trick. It just made the hair angry and more thirsty. So I deep conditioned, leave-in, oil...the routine. And my hair just vomits it all out again.

I did my mega deep treatment based on mashed avocados, olive oil, castor oil, ayurvedic herbs...my fool proof moisture bomb. No effect.

Something IS up. I went from having very few fairy knots to have at least one per clump. My hair feels....wiry....for a lack of any other word. I'm still adjusting to how thick some of my hair strands are this time around...but this is different. It's like my hair is made out of wire suddenly. So when I touch it it feels almost brittle, what I'm used to associated with "dry". But there isn't any obvious damage and not a split end in site.

I don't think it's mineral build-up. I end every co-wash with an ACV rinse and do a lemon juice rinse (citric acid) once a week.

Any ideas? It's very weird for a routine to just stop working like this, and as far as I can tell, none of my products have changed their ingredients.
Weather? I went through a period last winter where my usual routine completely stopped working, and my hair was feeling really dry and brittle, which is unusual. I finally realized that we'd been going for weeks and weeks without rain, when usually our winter is very wet. Add indoor heating to that, and the air was much dryer. It's really taken me up until a few weeks ago to get things completely sorted out.

My other suggestion would be to do a chelating shampoo. If you have hard water and/or other minerals, I don't think a once a week citric acid rinse is enough. I do one with every wash, and even then I need to use a chelating shampoo once or twice a year. Just make sure you do a DT afterward. That was the first thing I did when my hair started wigging out last winter. I did Joico's chelating shampoo first, then K-Pak, then a moisture treatment. It helped quite a bit, but I did need successive moisture treatments and then a whole change-up of my routine to get back on track.

jeanniet
July 7th, 2012, 05:26 PM
Perhaps it is the lemon juice rinse drying your hair out? I'd drop that for a while and see if it improves. Remember, citric acid can be damaging to your hair if done too often.


I don't find citric acid to be at all drying in a weak rinse. I use 1/4 teaspoon in a gallon of water after every wash, and have for at least two years. It's saved my hair, really. Now lemon juice--I find that much more drying than citric acid.

CurlyCap
July 7th, 2012, 05:29 PM
I don't find citric acid to be at all drying in a weak rinse. I use 1/4 teaspoon in a gallon of water after every wash, and have for at least two years. It's saved my hair, really. Now lemon juice--I find that much more drying than citric acid.

Well, its' about 1tsp of lemon juice in 2L of water. So I don't think that's the cause.

I did a weird experiment last night and shampoo'd again with Shea moisture shampoo and then applied a moisture mask. My hair feels slightly better, but still wiry.

I wonder if something has built up such that one wash was not enough. It's novel for me to have to wash more than once. Literally haven't done it in years. Gonna wash again tonight and do another intense moisture mask (commercial) and see if my hair is even happier. If so, I may need to go light on the products for a few days and see how my hair is really doing. It'll be frizz city, but whatever. That's what updos are for. :D

CurlyCap
July 7th, 2012, 05:31 PM
hmmm sounds like quite the dilemma! maybe the water in your shower is different somehow? A filter not working or something?

I live in an apartment building, so there's only so much I can do about the water. I know the water is hard, which is why I started incorporating the frequent ACV rinses.

I don't think I can mount a filter on our shower heads, but I'll keep the water in mind over the next few weeks.

Thanks.

CurlyCap
July 7th, 2012, 05:34 PM
Weather? I went through a period last winter where my usual routine completely stopped working, and my hair was feeling really dry and brittle, which is unusual. I finally realized that we'd been going for weeks and weeks without rain, when usually our winter is very wet. Add indoor heating to that, and the air was much dryer. It's really taken me up until a few weeks ago to get things completely sorted out.

My other suggestion would be to do a chelating shampoo. If you have hard water and/or other minerals, I don't think a once a week citric acid rinse is enough. I do one with every wash, and even then I need to use a chelating shampoo once or twice a year. Just make sure you do a DT afterward. That was the first thing I did when my hair started wigging out last winter. I did Joico's chelating shampoo first, then K-Pak, then a moisture treatment. It helped quite a bit, but I did need successive moisture treatments and then a whole change-up of my routine to get back on track.

I experience the same thing in our winters. Not because the weather is dry, but because my apartments heating system does nothing for humidity. My apartment is dry as a bone.

It MAY be chelating. As I posted about, two shampoos in a week actually helped rather than hurt and that is a real oddity for me. The second shampoo actually has chelating properties (so it says) and was the one that helped the most. I looked for a chelating shampoo at Wal-mart yesterday and couldn't find one, so until I get my hands on one, I'm going to alternating this weak chelating shampoo with moisture treatments and see if my hair gets back to normal.

Sigh. Just when you get into the groove of a routine, nature balks. You gotta love it!

jeanniet
July 7th, 2012, 05:40 PM
The attempt to go the whole CG routine is not working. Not combing is going to drive me insane, and I don't think it's helping my hair any. Trying to detangle in the shower is a nightmare--my hair gets wet and it's like it's trying to fornicate with everything it touches. :D It clings to everything and doesn't want to let go--which, BTW, is also why I can't braid damp hair. The easiest, least stressful way for me to detangle is after a wash, when it's completely dry, and then keep up with it daily. The other issue is the amount of hair I shed under normal conditions. I tried not combing for two days and then washed yesterday, and when I combed out my hair this morning, holy cow! A huge wad of shed hairs, all of which were of course madly wrapped around the unshed hairs (good news is there were very few broken bits). I mean seriously, it was almost the size of a dinner plate.

So I don't think I can go without daily combing, at least not and enjoy my hair. The good thing is that combing doesn't really do any damage, but it does break up the curl pattern somewhat--although, since I always have my hair up, what difference does it really make? It's not like you can tell how curly it is in a bun! I can spray and scrunch a bit, and most of the curl will be back once I let my hair down.

On another front, thank you Quixii, for suggesting the SM deep treatment masque. I CO'd with the reconstructive conditioner, then squeezed the moisture milk through and rinsed a little with my citric acid rinse, and put in the masque. I never would have thought I could put so much stuff in my hair and not have it turn out gunky, but it came out wonderfully and boy, do my ends feel nice now.

jeanniet
July 7th, 2012, 05:42 PM
I live in an apartment building, so there's only so much I can do about the water. I know the water is hard, which is why I started incorporating the frequent ACV rinses.

I don't think I can mount a filter on our shower heads, but I'll keep the water in mind over the next few weeks.

Thanks.
ACV won't do a whole lot for hard water, because it can only do some surface removal. You need a chelator to bind with the calcium carbonate molecules so it doesn't get on your hair in the first place. Citric acid is a chelator.

Quixii
July 7th, 2012, 05:48 PM
On another front, thank you Quixii, for suggesting the SM deep treatment masque. I CO'd with the reconstructive conditioner, then squeezed the moisture milk through and rinsed a little with my citric acid rinse, and put in the masque. I never would have thought I could put so much stuff in my hair and not have it turn out gunky, but it came out wonderfully and boy, do my ends feel nice now.
I'm so glad it worked for you. :D

DaniVerde
July 7th, 2012, 06:09 PM
Hi Curlies :)

I've got a question for everyone...have any of you transitioned from relaxers? If you have, did you cut it all off and just regrow it all again, or did you trim off the straight bits gradually?

After 8 months of growing out, I'm getting seriously tired of having everything from 1b to 3b-ish on my head...but at the same time I'm reluctant to chop, since I can now put my hair back in a few styles, and am soooo close to BSL!

Any advice?

cmg
July 7th, 2012, 07:22 PM
Hi Curlies :)

I've got a question for everyone...have any of you transitioned from relaxers? If you have, did you cut it all off and just regrow it all again, or did you trim off the straight bits gradually?

After 8 months of growing out, I'm getting seriously tired of having everything from 1b to 3b-ish on my head...but at the same time I'm reluctant to chop, since I can now put my hair back in a few styles, and am soooo close to BSL!

Any advice?
I cut off 6 inches (or was it 5?) in one strike and left the rest on. A few months later I cut a few inches more and landed at chin length. Now it is now growing out with lots of different hairtypes and damage situations thruout the lengths. I have decided to grow the hair longer, and therefore I will leave the rest of the damaged parts and only microtrim. The damaged hairs actually help protecting the new hairs. So I keep telling myself :D I will make a serious cut again at some stage, but this will probably not happen until next year.

A lot of people do it differently. Cut all off for example, and let the new growth be natural. I guess this choice depends on curage and/or neccessity. Depends on your hair, if it has to be done or if you can stand the maintenance.

Approaching BSL? Ouch, thats a tough length. Tangling and swooshing and touching everything, just dissapearing from the wear and tear. So hang in there! :boxer:

/ CMG

cmg
July 7th, 2012, 07:33 PM
While it breaks every curly girl rule, I run my hands through my hair all the time. It's part of the reason why my friends are used to seeing me look like Einstein.

:D


/ CMG

lilliemer
July 7th, 2012, 08:16 PM
It's nice to see a fresh new curly thread...The old curly thread is fun but soooo looooonnnggg!!!! I'm in, having recently been officially declared a 3a by some of the other participants on this thread. It's great to see all these lovely curls. Mine are not quite there yet...but I'll post pics as soon as I can get some new better quality ones, the ones in my hair typing thread were not great and I hate to recycle them here.

I also wanted to post a variant on SMT that I did today and really liked...My hair has been really dry and coarse feeling lately especially at the ends. I don't usually use olive oil because it makes my hair a bit deflated and flat, but I thought my hair could use the smoothing effect, so I replaced the aloe in the SMT with olive oil and let it soak in for about an hour and a half. (The exact recipe ended up being 1 part honey, 1 part extra virgin olive oil, and 4 parts tresemme naturals.) Very nice results, my ends are much smoother, canopy is less frizzy, and overall the hair is feeling softer. We'll see how it holds up.

KittyPTY
July 7th, 2012, 10:08 PM
I think i have problems, i have like 3 shampoos, 5 conditioners, 3 leave in, 5 types of oils... Lol!!! and i still haven't found the perfect match, it is kind of hard... =( My mother say i can make a garage sale of unused products, heheheheh

HappyHair87
July 7th, 2012, 11:06 PM
Hi Curlies :)

I've got a question for everyone...have any of you transitioned from relaxers? If you have, did you cut it all off and just regrow it all again, or did you trim off the straight bits gradually?

After 8 months of growing out, I'm getting seriously tired of having everything from 1b to 3b-ish on my head...but at the same time I'm reluctant to chop, since I can now put my hair back in a few styles, and am soooo close to BSL!

Any advice?

I transitioned for 8 months and chopped of about 23 inches of hair. I was at waist length. I had about 4-5 inches of newgrowth and it only stretched to right above my collarbone. 1 year later i was able to stretch it to APL and right now i'm getting a lot closer to BSL!

I was SO happy to get rid of those relaxed ends and embrace my curls....but...i will never big chop again as i do miss my hair being very long.:(

But it will grow back....i used to chop off relaxed parts in hidden sections around my head just to get a glimpse of what my curls looked like....and even when you do cut...you curl pattern won't really show itself until it gets longer.

CurlyCap
July 7th, 2012, 11:18 PM
I think i have problems, i have like 3 shampoos, 5 conditioners, 3 leave in, 5 types of oils... Lol!!! and i still haven't found the perfect match, it is kind of hard... =( My mother say i can make a garage sale of unused products, heheheheh

The trick is to arrange it all prettily on the counter with no shame.

When people go into your bathroom, they feel dreadfully uninformed...instead of you looking obsessed! :D

jeanniet
July 8th, 2012, 12:10 AM
To answer someone's question about different hair thicknesses on one head, I have F, M, and C hairs all mixed throughout (though primarily C). It's one reason it tangles so easily.

As far as inventory goes...this is embarrassing. I have, off the top of my head, 6 shampoos, 2 conditioners, 4 leave ins, 2 deep treatments, 3 styling creams/gels, 7 oils, along with AVG and various EOs. Mind you, I just gave my sister four different bottles of conditioner a couple of weeks ago! This isn't so much because I use that many different products, but because I have such a hard time finding products that work with my water and hair. It's not all on my bathroom counter, though. It's clogging up a closet. :D

KittyPTY
July 8th, 2012, 11:11 AM
To answer someone's question about different hair thicknesses on one head, I have F, M, and C hairs all mixed throughout (though primarily C). It's one reason it tangles so easily.

As far as inventory goes...this is embarrassing. I have, off the top of my head, 6 shampoos, 2 conditioners, 4 leave ins, 2 deep treatments, 3 styling creams/gels, 7 oils, along with AVG and various EOs. Mind you, I just gave my sister four different bottles of conditioner a couple of weeks ago! This isn't so much because I use that many different products, but because I have such a hard time finding products that work with my water and hair. It's not all on my bathroom counter, though. It's clogging up a closet. :D


I checked my mom's, my sister's and they all have fine hair i couldnt find anyother hairs, lol, that's why i thought i was crazy. my very few Coarse hairs tangle w ith the very fine hairs that are the most i have, hehehe.

I should put my stuff on the closet for don't scare people, my mom thinks my paycheck is all gone once i go "hair stuff shopping".

I have difficulties finding the right products, right now im trying to use all my HE's cone conditioners, lol. Im going to try cone-free conditioners instead. Hmm..I have to keep trying until i find something that suit my needs LOL! but it's taking me so long :(

HappyHair87
July 8th, 2012, 11:25 AM
I checked my mom's, my sister's and they all have fine hair i couldnt find anyother hairs, lol, that's why i thought i was crazy. my very few Coarse hairs tangle w ith the very fine hairs that are the most i have, hehehe.

I should put my stuff on the closet for don't scare people, my mom thinks my paycheck is all gone once i go "hair stuff shopping".

I have difficulties finding the right products, right now im trying to use all my HE's cone conditioners, lol. Im going to try cone-free conditioners instead. Hmm..I have to keep trying until i find something that suit my needs LOL! but it's taking me so long :(

I can't help it but i'm gonna suggest you try Tresemme Naturals conditioners! They reformulated it to where they no longer have the isopropyl alcohol in it...so its even more moisturizing. I usually use the Nourishing Moisture one...its VERY moisturizing and there are no cones :)

CurlyCap
July 8th, 2012, 03:01 PM
I can't help it but i'm gonna suggest you try Tresemme Naturals conditioners! They reformulated it to where they no longer have the isopropyl alcohol in it...so its even more moisturizing. I usually use the Nourishing Moisture one...its VERY moisturizing and there are no cones :)

I just bought Tresemme Naturals after the raves on the co-washing thread. I was SHOCKED at how moisturing it is. Better than a lot of "heavy" conditioners out there that I've tried. Definitely a new go to for moisture....though knowing me I'll just start making it my everyday!

CurlyCap
July 8th, 2012, 03:04 PM
Update:

Something must be on my hair. I went ahead and ordered a Joice Chelating Shampoo to see if that solves the problem once and for all.

Yesterday was house chore day so I was free to walk around in a shower cap all day. And shower too much.

Basically, I alternated shampooing with my mild chelating shampoo and heavy duty deep conditioning masks (maybe 3 rounds). Then I ended the day with a co-wash using Tresemme Naturals. My hair is back 90&#37;. I NEVER have to wash my hair that much, and so I'm assuming my hair hit some critical point of mineral build-up and freaked.

ETA: Upon re-reading the ingredients on the Tresemme Naturals, I noticed that citric acid is on there. So maybe the soaks with some tresemme in there helped a lot, too. /ETA

The fun part is my hair is ridiculously hydrated right now. No leave-ins at all and I've got perfect ringlets. That's happened...never...in my life. :D

kurlywurlygurl
July 8th, 2012, 03:23 PM
i'm a 3a, but im not sure how to upload pictures.

lilliemer
July 8th, 2012, 03:28 PM
Update:

Something must be on my hair. I went ahead and ordered a Joice Chelating Shampoo to see if that solves the problem once and for all.

Yesterday was house chore day so I was free to walk around in a shower cap all day. And shower too much.

Basically, I alternated shampooing with my mild chelating shampoo and heavy duty deep conditioning masks (maybe 3 rounds). Then I ended the day with a co-wash using Tresemme Naturals. My hair is back 90%. I NEVER have to wash my hair that much, and so I'm assuming my hair hit some critical point of mineral build-up and freaked.

ETA: Upon re-reading the ingredients on the Tresemme Naturals, I noticed that citric acid is on there. So maybe the soaks with some tresemme in there helped a lot, too. /ETA

The fun part is my hair is ridiculously hydrated right now. No leave-ins at all and I've got perfect ringlets. That's happened...never...in my life. :D
What were you using as a conditioning mask? SMT? Ringlets without leave in is...impressive!

HappyHair87
July 8th, 2012, 03:44 PM
I just bought Tresemme Naturals after the raves on the co-washing thread. I was SHOCKED at how moisturing it is. Better than a lot of "heavy" conditioners out there that I've tried. Definitely a new go to for moisture....though knowing me I'll just start making it my everyday!

Lol! I love that conditioner now...i used to not like it until i heard they reformulated it and all the raves...i tried it again and now (i am not recommending this)...my hair is SO hydrated i have not done a real deep conditioning in about 2 months!!:o

If anything now, i have to use a DT with protein in it bc my hair has started to be overly moist! Is one of the TN conditioners more on the strengthening side?

ETA: I also use this as my leave-in now. Sometimes i use it as a styler as well...just leave it in...perfect curls all day!! Just no multiple day hair. It doesn't have enough hold.

CurlyCurves
July 8th, 2012, 07:51 PM
Hey ladies!

I had a scary hair moment earlier! I was at my Nana's and begged my cousin to play with my hair (I LOVE getting my hair played with :)). She did - for two hours. When I left, my hair was like this (this isn't even the full extent. I had locs in my hair);

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/431846_4316627834314_1178601233_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/396939_4317206088770_45787734_n.jpg

40 minutes later, half a bottle of Tresseme Naturals, lots of patience, and painstakingly pulling apart the knots gently, I managed to sort it out and put it into this;

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/541600_4317188328326_45976813_n.jpg

Was scary! I almost cried.



No leave-ins at all and I've got perfect ringlets. That's happened...never...in my life. :D

Pics, pics!


i'm a 3a, but im not sure how to upload pictures.

Upload to Flickr, Facebook or something else, then right click -> copy IMG location -> put link into these [ i m g ] [ / i m g ]


It's nice to see a fresh new curly thread...The old curly thread is fun but soooo looooonnnggg!!!! I'm in, having recently been officially declared a 3a by some of the other participants on this thread. It's great to see all these lovely curls. Mine are not quite there yet...but I'll post pics as soon as I can get some new better quality ones, the ones in my hair typing thread were not great and I hate to recycle them here.


Can't wait to see :)

KittyPTY
July 9th, 2012, 02:06 AM
Lol! I love that conditioner now...i used to not like it until i heard they reformulated it and all the raves...i tried it again and now (i am not recommending this)...my hair is SO hydrated i have not done a real deep conditioning in about 2 months!!:o

If anything now, i have to use a DT with protein in it bc my hair has started to be overly moist! Is one of the TN conditioners more on the strengthening side?

ETA: I also use this as my leave-in now. Sometimes i use it as a styler as well...just leave it in...perfect curls all day!! Just no multiple day hair. It doesn't have enough hold.

Ok. I have to try this conditioner :D! i was thinking of using Garnier Triple Nutrition.. but ill try to find tresemme naturals first.

Does anybody knows which over the counter/drugstor deep condition is cone free?

Quixii
July 9th, 2012, 01:51 PM
I've been using Tresseme Naturals as my conditioner for at least a year now. My hair really likes it. :) Other LHCers always raved about things like V05, but my hair really needs something thicker, and the Tresseme naturals is perfect in that it is cone free but still thick and conditioning enough for my hair.
For my SLS-free shampoo (I just use at the roots) I've been using an Alba Mango shampoo (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Alba-Botanica-Hawaiian-Hair-Wash-Mango-Moisturizing-12-fl-oz/12167455), just 'cause I LOVE mangos, but before this bottle and after this bottle is empty I use Yes to Carrots shampoo. No real difference between the two, just happens to be what I end up with.
And as I mentioned, I didn't use to use a leave in but lately I've been lovin' using the Shea Moisture deep treatment as a leave in.

My hair seems happy enough with this combination. :)

spirals
July 9th, 2012, 02:03 PM
Ok. I have to try this conditioner :D! i was thinking of using Garnier Triple Nutrition.. but ill try to find tresemme naturals first.

Does anybody knows which over the counter/drugstor deep condition is cone free?
If you go 'cone-free, look for one with stearalkonium chloride. It's essentially fabric softener-- :eek: --but it makes hair soft.

Elithia
July 9th, 2012, 02:21 PM
I always feel like the ONLY curly who can't get multiple day hair :/ all the well known naturals with type 3 or 4 hair get multiple day hair, but me? I get frizz and tangles that could rival a hobo. Sigh.

It totally depends on the length and humidity. When my hair was shoulder and above and it was humid, I could go 3 days. Now it is long and I live in the desert and I have to condition every day or it turns into a big ball of frizz.

My hair texture has always been enormously dependent on the climate for texture and curliness. In drier places I'm mostly 3a. In humidity I'm 3b.

Short, ultra-dry climate (Aug. 2009):
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t3/soggypoptart/869cad91.jpg

Long, ultra-dry climate (July 2012): (I was camping and my hair was still a little wet, so the top looks pretty bad, but the ends were holding up ok. Still, it's definitely looking 3a to me.)
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t3/soggypoptart/4edb3d4e.jpg

Long, superhumid climate (Aug. 2009): (This was taken about a week before the short picture -- my last big chop. In 2 1/2 years it's all grown back, thank goodness.)
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t3/soggypoptart/379521d8.jpg


Long story short: I clearly need to more somewhere where there is actually humidity, because my ends were awesome! (And sun-lightened. Wow.)



Not combing is going to drive me insane, and I don't think it's helping my hair any. Trying to detangle in the shower is a nightmare--my hair gets wet and it's like it's trying to fornicate with everything it touches. :D

Detangle while your hair is chock full of conditioner? That's what I do.

CurlyCurves
July 9th, 2012, 02:54 PM
It totally depends on the length and humidity. When my hair was shoulder and above and it was humid, I could go 3 days. Now it is long and I live in the desert and I have to condition every day or it turns into a big ball of frizz.

My hair texture has always been enormously dependent on the climate for texture and curliness. In drier places I'm mostly 3a. In humidity I'm 3b.

Short, ultra-dry climate (Aug. 2009):
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t3/soggypoptart/869cad91.jpg

Long, ultra-dry climate (July 2012): (I was camping and my hair was still a little wet, so the top looks pretty bad, but the ends were holding up ok. Still, it's definitely looking 3a to me.)
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t3/soggypoptart/4edb3d4e.jpg

Long, superhumid climate (Aug. 2009): (This was taken about a week before the short picture -- my last big chop. In 2 1/2 years it's all grown back, thank goodness.)
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t3/soggypoptart/379521d8.jpg


Long story short: I clearly need to more somewhere where there is actually humidity, because my ends were awesome! (And sun-lightened. Wow.)


.

Your hair is awesome.

CurlyCap
July 9th, 2012, 09:34 PM
What were you using as a conditioning mask? SMT? Ringlets without leave in is...impressive!

I decided to play with my new Shea Moisture Products:
Round 1: Anti-breakage masque (I was really afraid of this because it has protein in it and my hair doesn't like protein, but I guess all the shampooing cancelled the effect of the protein.

Round 2: Shea Curl Souffle. I bought this and HATE it as a leave-in, but it weirdly turns out to be a nice deep treatment. Leave on 30min and rinse out. Too expensive to use regularly though bc you have to use so much.

Round 3: Tresseme Naturals under a shower cap. No reason why. Just wanted to try it.

That's a LOT of hydration for a day, which is probably why my hair looked so good the next day. I'll post if I ever get results that replicate it without the insanity of 3 deep treatments in one day.

lilliemer
July 9th, 2012, 10:03 PM
I decided to play with my new Shea Moisture Products:
Round 1: Anti-breakage masque (I was really afraid of this because it has protein in it and my hair doesn't like protein, but I guess all the shampooing cancelled the effect of the protein.

Round 2: Shea Curl Souffle. I bought this and HATE it as a leave-in, but it weirdly turns out to be a nice deep treatment. Leave on 30min and rinse out. Too expensive to use regularly though bc you have to use so much.

Round 3: Tresseme Naturals under a shower cap. No reason why. Just wanted to try it.

That's a LOT of hydration for a day, which is probably why my hair looked so good the next day. I'll post if I ever get results that replicate it without the insanity of 3 deep treatments in one day.
Thanks for your answer! I will have to keep my eye out for the shea moisture line as your hair always looks lovely in your pics. It's funny you should mention the tresemme naturals line, I have been using it for the past 2 months or so and really like it (the aloe formula). Saturday I did an SMT variant with olive oil (substituted for aloe), honey, and the tresemme naturals conditioner and it was like I had a new head of hair...for a day or so then the ends got dry again...sigh...

CurlyCap
July 9th, 2012, 10:21 PM
Thanks for your answer! I will have to keep my eye out for the shea moisture line as your hair always looks lovely in your pics. It's funny you should mention the tresemme naturals line, I have been using it for the past 2 months or so and really like it (the aloe formula). Saturday I did an SMT variant with olive oil (substituted for aloe), honey, and the tresemme naturals conditioner and it was like I had a new head of hair...for a day or so then the ends got dry again...sigh...

:D

Don't buy the hype! I just bought the Shea Moisture products due to enabling by LHC. I've been co-washing my hair for the past year with VO5 or Suave and things have been working out just fine. Hair can be well-moisturized with really simple products!

I just had some money to spend and I decided to go with products instead of hairtoys. Then I had a hair crises and was happy I had them on hand.

As for your SMT recipe...I'm interested. SMTs never did anything for me so I gave up. BUT that Shea Moisture Curl Souffle stuff is basically an SMT and so I was confused. Maybe next time I DT I'll try your recipe. :D

jeanniet
July 10th, 2012, 12:36 AM
CurlyCap, citric acid is commonly used as a preservative in hair products, so the amount is usually ngeligible if it's toward the end of the ingedient list. I'm not sure it would be enough to have a chelating effect.

Elithia, I have tried detangling when my hair is full of conditioner, but the problem is that if I go into the shower with tangled hair, the water makes it worse, so even with conditioner it's harder to detangle than doing it on dry hair, and the shed is horendous. It's much better detangling before I get into the shower.

For whatever reason, Suave and VO5 conditioners aren't great for my hair. They'll be fine for a time or two, but build up really quickly, and I just don't want to have to clarify that often. The SheaMoisture products don't seem to build up that much.

KittyPTY
July 10th, 2012, 12:35 PM
I did a clarifying wash today. I had dry ends, now they are all soft. I don't know how many centimeters i cut already due to dry ends, i always thought it was damage.... but it was buildup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh my god i want to turn time back and get my inches !!!! :) Im gonna try SMT next. :P

Long_Curls
July 10th, 2012, 05:14 PM
Elithia, I have tried detangling when my hair is full of conditioner, but the problem is that if I go into the shower with tangled hair, the water makes it worse, so even with conditioner it's harder to detangle than doing it on dry hair, and the shed is horendous. It's much better detangling before I get into the shower.


With regards to detangling, I have found that:

1) If my hair is properly moisturized, detangling when the hair is not wet is better.

2) If I have shampooed or my hair is dry, using water + conditioner or water + olive oil is better.

To me, having properly moisturized the tangle and the segments of the hair strands next to it prior to detangling is essential to avoid breaking the tangled hair or damaging it. I have worked through the most horrible and vicious of tangles (I am talking marble thick knots) and recovered the hair successfully by moisturizing prior to the "operation".

cmg
July 10th, 2012, 05:39 PM
I did a clarifying wash today. I had dry ends, now they are all soft. I don't know how many centimeters i cut already due to dry ends, i always thought it was damage.... but it was buildup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh my god i want to turn time back and get my inches !!!! :)
I've almost made that mistake lots of times! Bhuh. Lucky I changed my mind before it was too late.

Did a SMT last night and it didnt make the usual tremendous difference. Perhaps my hair is in better condition lately. I have given it alot of honey, cassia, henna, oils and attention. :)


(I am talking marble thick knots) and recovered the hair successfully by moisturizing prior to the "operation".
Yes, that makes sense!

/ CMG

jeanniet
July 10th, 2012, 10:05 PM
With regards to detangling, I have found that:

1) If my hair is properly moisturized, detangling when the hair is not wet is better.

2) If I have shampooed or my hair is dry, using water + conditioner or water + olive oil is better.

To me, having properly moisturized the tangle and the segments of the hair strands next to it prior to detangling is essential to avoid breaking the tangled hair or damaging it. I have worked through the most horrible and vicious of tangles (I am talking marble thick knots) and recovered the hair successfully by moisturizing prior to the "operation".
Yes, my hair is always well-moisturized before I comb it. Today I detanged before my shower, and lost significantly less hair than when I last detangled in the shower. So I guess I'll stick with pre-shower detangling.

But now I have another question. Has anyone used a Dreadsock? What I'm specifically thinking of using it for is to encase my hair while it dries so it doesn't frizz so much. It's impossible to put it up while it dries (would take forever), but leaving it down lets it rub too much on my shirt, etc. Any thoughts on the Dreadsock for this?

CurlyCap
July 10th, 2012, 11:38 PM
A few of my grey hairs are long enough now that I can pull them around to see them. As I grabbed a few of them and got ready to grouse about going grey so young, I had the oddest shock.

My grey hairs aren't grey. They're gold.

The prettiest gold, like a jeweler had made the finest, most delicate necklaces and strung them throughout my hair.

They are really pretty. And so now I like my "greys". :D

ahrph
July 11th, 2012, 02:59 AM
I think I'm 3a/3b. Once I have a bit more experience with types and can actually leave my hair alone while its drying I'll know better.

I always wanted straight glossy hair, but learned to embrace the curls (not until college though). Though I'm still figuring out what to do with them a lot of the time.

HappyHair87
July 11th, 2012, 08:20 AM
@jeanniette I have heard of the dreadsock being used to "pineapple" curls while sleeping. Never heard of it being used for drying purposes. When I am getting dressed and am drying my hair, I put on a t shirt on my head like a bride veil and continue with my business :lol:

when I'm done I just slide it off and gently shake my head to separate my curls some.

jeanniet
July 11th, 2012, 01:22 PM
@jeanniette I have heard of the dreadsock being used to "pineapple" curls while sleeping. Never heard of it being used for drying purposes. When I am getting dressed and am drying my hair, I put on a t shirt on my head like a bride veil and continue with my business :lol:

when I'm done I just slide it off and gently shake my head to separate my curls some.

That's a good idea, although I'm sure my kids will make fun of me (like they don't already :rolleyes:). I don't think cotton would work for full drying because there would be too much hair movement/frizz over time (I do plop in a t-shirt briefly after washing), but I just bought my son some of those quick-drying shirts (like UnderArmor) for a trip to Costa Rica, and something like that might be perfect for a few hours' dry time. The material is nice and slippy, and wicks moisture out, too. I'll have to ransack his closet and try it out next time I wash.

HappyHair87
July 11th, 2012, 02:43 PM
That's a good idea, although I'm sure my kids will make fun of me (like they don't already :rolleyes:). I don't think cotton would work for full drying because there would be too much hair movement/frizz over time (I do plop in a t-shirt briefly after washing), but I just bought my son some of those quick-drying shirts (like UnderArmor) for a trip to Costa Rica, and something like that might be perfect for a few hours' dry time. The material is nice and slippy, and wicks moisture out, too. I'll have to ransack his closet and try it out next time I wash.

Yeah...i have been using t-shirts that aren't very "cottony"..they feel more "Spandex-ish" they're actually old shirts i used to have to wear to work:lol: Although when i put them in the wash i do have more "cottony" t-shirts that i use.

LOL my fam laughs at me about everything i do...but i don't care...when i walk out the door lookin like a million dollaars they shut right on up:laugh:!!!

HappyHair87
July 11th, 2012, 03:09 PM
I'm thinking about flat ironing my hair sometime next month. I hope i make BSL or am just about there. I haven't straightened since the very beginning of May so....i'm pretty sure my hair has gained some length.

Hopefully the weather cools down by then...but idk. Kinda on the fence.

Long_Curls
July 11th, 2012, 03:42 PM
I'm thinking about flat ironing my hair sometime next month. I hope i make BSL or am just about there. I haven't straightened since the very beginning of May so....i'm pretty sure my hair has gained some length.

Hopefully the weather cools down by then...but idk. Kinda on the fence.

I understand what you are saying but since you are on the fence, allow me to encourage you to think twice and think about the extra damage that you'd do to your hair with an extra flat ironing session. May is only 2 months ago, at best you'd have 1 inch of extended length which would not be much of a difference. The way I see it is:

Creating a bit more damage to your curls + the temporary satisfaction of seeing the newly grown length.

OR

Wait it out and cut the frequency of the damage as you would delay flat ironing your curls (say, do it in 6 months and not now). You will quite likely flat iron again in 6 months anyway so you'd be cutting one more damage-making insult if you don't do flat iron now.

I'm a fellow curly head and, by all means, I completely understand your thinking as we curly people don't get any visible length despite months and months of waiting. However, with hair, I have found that it is always better to be patient than to rush things.

Apologies in advance if my reply is out of context as I haven't read the previous pages and I get from your post that you are intending to continue growing your curls.

HappyHair87
July 11th, 2012, 03:51 PM
I understand what you are saying but since you are on the fence, allow me to encourage you to think twice and think about the extra damage that you'd do to your hair with an extra flat ironing session. May is only 2 months ago, at best you'd have 1 inch of extended length which would not be much of a difference. The way I see it is:

Creating a bit more damage to your curls + the temporary satisfaction of seeing the newly grown length.

OR

Wait it out and cut the frequency of the damage as you would delay flat ironing your curls (say, do it in 6 months and not now). You will quite likely flat iron again in 6 months anyway so you'd be cutting one more damage-making insult if you don't do flat iron now.

I'm a fellow curly head and, by all means, I completely understand your thinking as we curly people don't get any visible length despite months and months of waiting. However, with hair, I have found that it is always better to be patient than to rush things.

Apologies in advance if my reply is out of context as I haven't read the previous pages and I get from your post that you are intending to continue growing your curls.

Actually........

If i flat iron my hair next month....that would be 3 months from the last time i flat ironed. I understand your post is coming from concern...but...i'm only on the fence about flat ironing my hair bc of the effort it takes to do it and then too it's humid here in Florida right now.

I prep my hair VERY well before flat ironing and i only do 1 pass per section...i ahve already flat ironed my hair twice this year...3 times since i went natural last year and my curls have always come back.

My goal is to grow my hair to WL straightened so...yes, i am going to flat iron my hair. Especially too because...my shrinkage is CRAZY!! I am pretty much BSL and my hair still shrinks above my shoulders when curly......so i may be waiting til i'm 99 to see some length while curly:laugh:

But thank you:)

I just randomly stretched out a curl and i believe i have reached BSL but i'm not claiming it until i flat iron next month.

Long_Curls
July 11th, 2012, 03:56 PM
Actually........

If i flat iron my hair next month....that would be 3 months from the last time i flat ironed. I understand your post is coming from concern...but...i'm only on the fence about flat ironing my hair bc of the effort it takes to do it and then too it's humid here in Florida right now.

I prep my hair VERY well before flat ironing and i only do 1 pass per section...i ahve already flat ironed my hair twice this year...3 times since i went natural last year and my curls have always come back.

My goal is to grow my hair to WL straightened so...yes, i am going to flat iron my hair. Especially too because...my shrinkage is CRAZY!! I am pretty much BSL and my hair still shrinks above my shoulders when curly......so i may be waiting til i'm 99 to see some length while curly:laugh:

But thank you:)

I just randomly stretched out a curl and i believe i have reached BSL but i'm not claiming it until i flat iron next month.

LOL at the bold part, totally agree and share that.

Makes more sense to me now, especially seeing that you live in Florida and with the humidity.

Sending you good vibes for the WL!

Neecola
July 11th, 2012, 04:23 PM
I believe I belong here~ kinda hard to hair type when my hair is so short but it definitely curls more than waves. <-- My avatar pic is me. Guess I'll know better when it gets longer. For now, I will pay close attention to this thread :eye: in the hopes of picking up some tips for when it is longer!

DaniVerde
July 11th, 2012, 04:51 PM
I broke the cardinal curly rule today...after washing my hair this morning, I had to go out, and my hair was still quite damp, so I had to toss it back into a LWB. So my curl pattern got messed with before it dried, and I now have an angry, frizzy mess that looks like it's trying to lead a revolution away from my head. And a ton of baby hairs are very visible and adding to the frizz factor. Le sigh.

cmg
July 11th, 2012, 05:40 PM
My grey hairs aren't grey. They're gold.

The prettiest gold, like a jeweler had made the finest, most delicate necklaces and strung them throughout my hair.

They are really pretty. And so now I like my "greys". :D

That sounds delightful! :)

Are you sure, you are not a closet redhead? That would explain the "greys" :D

ahrph and Neecola: Welcome to the 3 hair club!

/ CMG

Iaine
July 11th, 2012, 05:54 PM
Hey! I'm joining this kind of late in the game, but I'm a 3b/3c (I think), and I just wanted to say hello. :) Does anyone hear do anything to actively stretch their curls? My hair is a little past BSL, but it shrinks to APL when it dries. Makes me so sad. :(

lilliemer
July 11th, 2012, 06:19 PM
:D

Don't buy the hype! I just bought the Shea Moisture products due to enabling by LHC. I've been co-washing my hair for the past year with VO5 or Suave and things have been working out just fine. Hair can be well-moisturized with really simple products!

I just had some money to spend and I decided to go with products instead of hairtoys. Then I had a hair crises and was happy I had them on hand.

As for your SMT recipe...I'm interested. SMTs never did anything for me so I gave up. BUT that Shea Moisture Curl Souffle stuff is basically an SMT and so I was confused. Maybe next time I DT I'll try your recipe. :D

Yes, in the first SMTs I did, I used aloe and didn't think it did all that much for my hair. After a week or two of using aloe by itself i noticed that it seemed to be very drying on my hair. So then I substituted coconut oil for the aloe...That worked a little bit better but still no miracles. I had been experimenting with olive oil on my ends and liked it so the final substitution was olive oil for the coconut oil. The final concoction was 1 tbsp honey (microwaved for 15 seconds) then I added 1 tbsp olive oil and mixed the two together. The honey kind of emulsifies the olive oil so you get little droplets of oil floating in the honey. While it was still warm but not hot I added 4 tbsp conditioner (tresemme naturals). The conditioner floated on top a bit but I just made sure I got all the oil/honey goodness at the bottom into my hair. Left it under a plastic wrap for about an hour and a half. The other nice thing about this recipe is that it kind of kills the smell of the olive oil. Which I ordinarily like, just not on my hair. Let me know if it works for you!!

Neecola
July 12th, 2012, 12:35 PM
Thank you for sharing your recipe lilliemer! I'm due for DT this weekend, so I will try it out. I have found my hair really likes olive oil too (and almond!)

spirals
July 12th, 2012, 01:15 PM
I believe I belong here~ kinda hard to hair type when my hair is so short but it definitely curls more than waves. <-- My avatar pic is me. Guess I'll know better when it gets longer. For now, I will pay close attention to this thread :eye: in the hopes of picking up some tips for when it is longer!

I'd type you solid 3a. I'm thinking, after seeing how curly you are at that length, that I'm more 2c.

CurlyCap
July 12th, 2012, 04:54 PM
When I am getting dressed and am drying my hair, I put on a t shirt on my head like a bride veil and continue with my business :lol:

Because I have to try most LHC advice at least once:

Lately my hair is long enough that I'm starting to get a "wet cape" feeling if I try to leave it sopping wet to dry. Sopping wet to dry gives me the prettiest curls, but I just don't have the tenacity to sit through several hours of wet back.

So, last night after my shower, I did the t-shirt veil while I got dressed, closed up the house, and then I wore it to bed. I was perfectly dry and comfortable (though the sleeves of the shirt veil did get pretty wet). It feel off during the night (which I was hoping for) and in the morning I had the prettiest (and still slightly damp!) curls I'd had in a long time.

I'm not sure how I'll incorporate this knowledge into my routine, but I just wanted to let you know it was a great idea, I used it, and got great results!

jeanniet
July 12th, 2012, 05:31 PM
I broke the cardinal curly rule today...after washing my hair this morning, I had to go out, and my hair was still quite damp, so I had to toss it back into a LWB. So my curl pattern got messed with before it dried, and I now have an angry, frizzy mess that looks like it's trying to lead a revolution away from my head. And a ton of baby hairs are very visible and adding to the frizz factor. Le sigh.

I do that all the time, out of necessity. Sometimes you have no choice--you can't just sit around for hours waiting for your hair to dry! I figure if things are messed up, they're messed up. Sometimes spraying and scrunching helps. Otherwise, it will all fix itself next wash, right?

HappyHair87
July 12th, 2012, 10:19 PM
Because I have to try most LHC advice at least once:

Lately my hair is long enough that I'm starting to get a "wet cape" feeling if I try to leave it sopping wet to dry. Sopping wet to dry gives me the prettiest curls, but I just don't have the tenacity to sit through several hours of wet back.

So, last night after my shower, I did the t-shirt veil while I got dressed, closed up the house, and then I wore it to bed. I was perfectly dry and comfortable (though the sleeves of the shirt veil did get pretty wet). It feel off during the night (which I was hoping for) and in the morning I had the prettiest (and still slightly damp!) curls I'd had in a long time.

I'm not sure how I'll incorporate this knowledge into my routine, but I just wanted to let you know it was a great idea, I used it, and got great results!

:laugh: I'm glad it worked!!:cheese: I never tried sleeping in my veil tho:lol: Never thought of doing that. I don't like washing my hair at nite bc i airdry and when i wake up the next morning with wet hair, i also have a sore throat:(

CurlyCap
July 12th, 2012, 10:34 PM
:laugh: I'm glad it worked!!:cheese: I never tried sleeping in my veil tho:lol: Never thought of doing that. I don't like washing my hair at nite bc i airdry and when i wake up the next morning with wet hair, i also have a sore throat:(

:D

Well, I know I'm weird. Almost everyone I know hates sleeping with a wet head, but I love it. it's cooling and I always feel like my head is too hot and my body is too cold.

Quixii
July 12th, 2012, 11:01 PM
I prefer to take my showers at night, too. More because if I leave it down(ish) to dry during the day from a morning/day shower, it moves around and gets frizzy and unhappy. If I take it at night, then my hair just stays flipped over my pillow (or plopped or whatever) and dries much much nicer. And my hair isn't very pretty when its wet, or dripping all over, so it's just nicer to not have that during the day when I'm out and about.

Neecola
July 13th, 2012, 12:40 PM
I'd type you solid 3a. I'm thinking, after seeing how curly you are at that length, that I'm more 2c.

Thanks for your input, spirals! I do think that once my hair gets longer and heavier that the curl will loosen. It did before when my hair was long (I should say "long" before LHC~ about bsl or so.) But then again, the way I take care of my hair now is completely different, so who knows what it will look like?

jeanniet
July 13th, 2012, 04:38 PM
If your hair isn't too heavy you may keep the curl very well. My curl has stretched out considerably over the length, plus I find that it falls out at the drop of a hat and I pretty much have to do some frequent scrunching if I want curls over waves. I try to just go with it. :D

CurlyCap
July 13th, 2012, 07:51 PM
That sounds delightful! :)

Are you sure, you are not a closet redhead? That would explain the "greys" :D

/ CMG


You have no concept of how much I adore red hair. I'd love to have a magic hairtoy that turned my hair red for the day. Sigh.

I'd look a little insane though. Never saw a red head with brown skin.

CurlyCap
July 13th, 2012, 07:53 PM
Yes, in the first SMTs I did, I used aloe and didn't think it did all that much for my hair. After a week or two of using aloe by itself i noticed that it seemed to be very drying on my hair. So then I substituted coconut oil for the aloe...That worked a little bit better but still no miracles. I had been experimenting with olive oil on my ends and liked it so the final substitution was olive oil for the coconut oil. The final concoction was 1 tbsp honey (microwaved for 15 seconds) then I added 1 tbsp olive oil and mixed the two together. The honey kind of emulsifies the olive oil so you get little droplets of oil floating in the honey. While it was still warm but not hot I added 4 tbsp conditioner (tresemme naturals). The conditioner floated on top a bit but I just made sure I got all the oil/honey goodness at the bottom into my hair. Left it under a plastic wrap for about an hour and a half. The other nice thing about this recipe is that it kind of kills the smell of the olive oil. Which I ordinarily like, just not on my hair. Let me know if it works for you!!

Trying this tonight. Will report back!

DuckyDot
July 13th, 2012, 08:15 PM
The final concoction was 1 tbsp honey (microwaved for 15 seconds) then I added 1 tbsp olive oil and mixed the two together. The honey kind of emulsifies the olive oil so you get little droplets of oil floating in the honey. While it was still warm but not hot I added 4 tbsp conditioner (tresemme naturals). The conditioner floated on top a bit but I just made sure I got all the oil/honey goodness at the bottom into my hair. Left it under a plastic wrap for about an hour and a half.

(quote cut down by me)

My hair was in desperate need of some love, and I was searching all over for something to try and you might have just saved my hair! :D I tried the recipe exactly as you did and my hair feels and looks great! Thank you so much! :disco:

CurlyCap
July 13th, 2012, 11:13 PM
Had a hair epiphany!

I just realized I've gone 1.5 years into my regrowing saga without once referencing Bernadette Peters as a curly inspiration. I feel like I've failed the curly karma.

In order to rectify this, I bring you: The Hair

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a5/Peters_in_08.jpg/220px-Peters_in_08.jpg

I'm guessing that at 60+, the hair is colored, but the curls are still :thud: worthy.

(lol. Silly post is silly because I'm at home dehydrated, sick, lazy, and bored.)

Elithia
July 13th, 2012, 11:19 PM
(lol. Silly post is silly because I'm at home dehydrated, sick, lazy, and bored.)

Ha. I've been on LHC on and off since I got home from work 4 hours ago. :) Neither of my housemates are in town and I go kinda stircrazy in a house all by myself for an entire week ....


So on a vaguely thread-related note: I was thinking about how before I went curly for real (6 years ago now -- stopped brushing and shampooing the heck out of my hair) I would always notice "curly" hair in movies and on people in real life and be jealous. Now I see pictures or see the people again and half the time I'm like "wait ... they're barely wavy!" :D

But at my high school EVERYONE wore their hair straight, dyed blonde, and APL. Particularly my freshman year that was the thing. So I guess anyone with even a little S-wave seemed like a curly to me!

CurlyCap
July 13th, 2012, 11:42 PM
But at my high school EVERYONE wore their hair straight, dyed blonde, and APL. Particularly my freshman year that was the thing. So I guess anyone with even a little S-wave seemed like a curly to me!

It sorta boggles my mind that most people have never seen a full head of curly hair. Statistically, that seems a little impossible, since a drop of curly hair in the family usually means curlies or wavies popping up everywhere.

My co-worker swears that most curly hair isn't like mine. That mine is an unusual case and that 2b hair is "what real curly hair looks like". I tried to explain that Type 4 hair is EVEN CURLIER, so curly that the curls are so tiny they look like a straight line...and her brain refused to accept.

All of the above is why I'm considering not layering next time around. I have a LOT of curly hair and I think the mane is going to be quite awesome in a few years.

Elithia
July 13th, 2012, 11:57 PM
It sorta boggles my mind that most people have never seen a full head of curly hair. Statistically, that seems a little impossible, since a drop of curly hair in the family usually means curlies or wavies popping up everywhere.

My co-worker swears that most curly hair isn't like mine. That mine is an unusual case and that 2b hair is "what real curly hair looks like". I tried to explain that Type 4 hair is EVER CURLIER, so curly that the curls are so tiny they look like a straight line...and her brain refused to accept.

All of the above is why I'm considering not layering next time around. I have a LOT of curly hair and I think the mane is going to be quite awesome in a few years.

I know tons of curlies who just don't let their curls grow to their full potential. All four of my aunts have naturally curly hair and only half of them even attempt to wear theirs curly ... of the other two, one is a no-nonsense brush-the-heck-out-of-it person, and the other one dyes, blowfries, flat irons, and curls her hair into oblivion. I've never seen it its natural color or texture. It's very sad! At least I've got my dad CO. :)

I have three curly cousins too ... a 3a, a 3c, and a 4b. The 4b, who's twelve and a half, is FINALLY embracing her gorgeous hair. It's huge and glorious!

So various types of curly pop up like crazy in my family (though my three brothers are all dead straight like my mom). Though most of them don't take good care of their curls. :( Curls were back in style on my college campus, to the extent that I was in one class of 17 that had at least 7 girls who wore their curls natural at least half the time. Two of us had 3a/b and never straightened. One was 3c and straightened half the time. The rest were 2c/3a. (Ha. Hairtyping my classmates. :D) So there's hope!

KittyPTY
July 13th, 2012, 11:59 PM
Detangling!!!!! How do you 3 types detangle your hair :D Wet? dry detangling? Im not sure, please!! give me some advise which is better for our hair type =(

CurlyCap
July 14th, 2012, 12:35 AM
Detangling!!!!! How do you 3 types detangle your hair :D Wet? dry detangling? Im not sure, please!! give me some advise which is better for our hair type =(

Fingercomb while co-washing.

Basically, get wet, load up with an unholy amount of conditioner, wash the body, then work your way through sections (for me 2-3 sections, tops). When that's done, give the scalp a good rubadub and rinse. :D

Elithia
July 14th, 2012, 09:53 AM
And if it's long, do the same as all the brushers and combers do, and start at the ends. :)

PinkyCat
July 14th, 2012, 10:09 AM
Had a hair epiphany!

I just realized I've gone 1.5 years into my regrowing saga without once referencing Bernadette Peters as a curly inspiration. I feel like I've failed the curly karma.

In order to rectify this, I bring you: The Hair

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a5/Peters_in_08.jpg/220px-Peters_in_08.jpg

I'm guessing that at 60+, the hair is colored, but the curls are still :thud: worthy.

(lol. Silly post is silly because I'm at home dehydrated, sick, lazy, and bored.)

Oh my DF LOVES her! He has been in love with her since he was a little boy. Such a beauty.

lilliemer
July 14th, 2012, 11:23 AM
(quote cut down by me)

My hair was in desperate need of some love, and I was searching all over for something to try and you might have just saved my hair! :D I tried the recipe exactly as you did and my hair feels and looks great! Thank you so much! :disco:

Yay! Happy you liked it!:happydance:


Trying this tonight. Will report back!
I am due for a treat again this afternoon too... I have this problem with things working a few times then never again. hopefully it won't happen with this little concoction!

ahrph
July 14th, 2012, 01:20 PM
Yes, in the first SMTs I did, I used aloe and didn't think it did all that much for my hair. After a week or two of using aloe by itself i noticed that it seemed to be very drying on my hair. So then I substituted coconut oil for the aloe...That worked a little bit better but still no miracles. I had been experimenting with olive oil on my ends and liked it so the final substitution was olive oil for the coconut oil. The final concoction was 1 tbsp honey (microwaved for 15 seconds) then I added 1 tbsp olive oil and mixed the two together. The honey kind of emulsifies the olive oil so you get little droplets of oil floating in the honey. While it was still warm but not hot I added 4 tbsp conditioner (tresemme naturals). The conditioner floated on top a bit but I just made sure I got all the oil/honey goodness at the bottom into my hair. Left it under a plastic wrap for about an hour and a half. The other nice thing about this recipe is that it kind of kills the smell of the olive oil. Which I ordinarily like, just not on my hair. Let me know if it works for you!!

Definitely trying this tonight.

jeanniet
July 14th, 2012, 01:33 PM
Detangling!!!!! How do you 3 types detangle your hair :D Wet? dry detangling? Im not sure, please!! give me some advise which is better for our hair type =(
I do it dry, but I'm a looser curly/wavy. I've tried detangling in the shower a number of times, but I always lose an ungodly amount of hair when I do it (it's kind of unnerving when you grab a section of hair and realize it's all coming off your head). I lose much less hair when detangling dry--I also lose curl, but there has to be a compromise somewhere. In general, I would suggest trying it in the shower first (lots of conditioner) because that's the ideal.

sometimesginger
July 14th, 2012, 03:06 PM
3a here! :) And might I say, your curls are gorgeous! Also, I love the Superman shirt :D

CurlyCap
July 15th, 2012, 04:24 PM
Well, it's official.

If I fall asleep with a t-shirt veil on, my curls are more uniform and about 2x as curly. I think it causes my hair to dry more slowly and so the curls, despite the leave-in, have time to form more perfectly. Also, it completely cuts down on the frizz, keeping the curls that do form intact.

I don't know how I feel about it. It's nice to have a way to keep my wet curls off my back while I get ready for bed, but my hair does stay damp longer. Even though the veil usually falls off at some point in the night, it's not unusual for me to wake up with still damp hair. It's great for styling, but I don't think my scalp should be damp for that long. The length, sure. The scalp...dunno.

And alas, more perfect, more curly curls means more shrinkage. I'm up to my chin again in some places. It looks fantastic and makes me want to bang my head against the mirror.

Oh, and it helped with some deep conditioning issues. I couldn't shove moisture into my hair for a while (long chelation story I'll type up later), but the combination of a leave-in on soaking wet hair and the loooooooooooong dry times helped fix a lot of my moisture imbalance problems.

:D That is my report for the week, curly peeps. Off for a nap now.

Neecola
July 16th, 2012, 10:54 AM
The final concoction was 1 tbsp honey (microwaved for 15 seconds) then I added 1 tbsp olive oil and mixed the two together. The honey kind of emulsifies the olive oil so you get little droplets of oil floating in the honey. While it was still warm but not hot I added 4 tbsp conditioner (tresemme naturals). The conditioner floated on top a bit but I just made sure I got all the oil/honey goodness at the bottom into my hair. Left it under a plastic wrap for about an hour and a half. The other nice thing about this recipe is that it kind of kills the smell of the olive oil. Which I ordinarily like, just not on my hair. Let me know if it works for you!!

lilliemer, I used your recipe this weekend with almond oil and it worked really well! I did shed quite a bit so I think next time I will use condish only on the scalp and this mix on the length. My hair is soft and frizz-free; thank you!

Neecola
July 16th, 2012, 11:00 AM
Oh, and it helped with some deep conditioning issues. I couldn't shove moisture into my hair for a while (long chelation story I'll type up later), but the combination of a leave-in on soaking wet hair and the loooooooooooong dry times helped fix a lot of my moisture imbalance problems.



*Eagerly awaits chelation story* I have super hard water and am trying to figure out a way to combat it :luke: but it's winning. I do a daily citric acid rinse and occasional ION hardwater treatments but it isn't enough. I've had to resort to chelating shampoo once a week. If you have any suggestions, I would love to hear them!

CurlyCap
July 18th, 2012, 10:39 PM
Today, because of:
1. Insane humidity
2. Low hair moisture and
3. Too little leave-in conditioner

My hair was literally as wide as it is long. And then, because of my constant attempts to contain it, I most of the curl and had a perfect beach ball head of almost-curly hair. I spent the day going "I love my hair. I love my hair. I love my hair" because otherwise I would have screamed at the insanity of it all by 10am.

Best part? "No, CurlyCap, I don't see the problem. It looks just like it usually does."

Sigh.

Quixii
July 19th, 2012, 02:58 PM
My hair does not like summer in Southern California. :cry: (I'm vacationing here for two weeks, I live more in Northern California.) And I was stupid and thought I wouldn't need to bring my lovely leave in. So I tried leaving in some of my conditioner, but it's just.. not enough. Sigh.
And I would just do updos and not worry about it, but DBF is with me and was giving me puppy dog eyes about how he misses seeing my hair and he's sad that I wear it up aaaaalllllllll the time now and won't I please just wear it in a ponytail or down for a few days?

kitschy
July 19th, 2012, 03:33 PM
My hair does not like summer in Southern California. :cry: (I'm vacationing here for two weeks, I live more in Northern California.) And I was stupid and thought I wouldn't need to bring my lovely leave in. So I tried leaving in some of my conditioner, but it's just.. not enough. Sigh.
And I would just do updos and not worry about it, but DBF is with me and was giving me puppy dog eyes about how he misses seeing my hair and he's sad that I wear it up aaaaalllllllll the time now and won't I please just wear it in a ponytail or down for a few days?

Q, I just got back from Newport Beach on Sunday. My hair loved the humidity. I guess it's because I am from such an arid, super dry climate, but my hair was super curly and moisturized. Have fun with your DBF, and take your hair down and go wild!


Today, because of:
1. Insane humidity
2. Low hair moisture and
3. Too little leave-in conditioner

My hair was literally as wide as it is long. And then, because of my constant attempts to contain it, I most of the curl and had a perfect beach ball head of almost-curly hair. I spent the day going "I love my hair. I love my hair. I love my hair" because otherwise I would have screamed at the insanity of it all by 10am.

Best part? "No, CurlyCap, I don't see the problem. It looks just like it usually does."

Sigh.

CurlyCap, I'm sure your hair is super gorgeous when it is big. I just love your curls. I get the same response when my hair is misbehaving, like...."I don't see any difference...duh." I can't believe people just don't get as invested in my good hair days as I do.

And on that same thought, today I damp bunned and I love the waves I'm rockin.' No one in my office even noticed that I'm not my normal curly self.

I'm posting this picture because I love my waves, and even though I posted a whole thread dedicated to my damp-bun experiment, no one has told me how awesome my hair looks.

Will you guys please oblige me?...Lie if you must:o

http://images112.fotki.com/v106/photos/0/1803120/9931107/IMG_1288-vi.jpg

Elithia
July 19th, 2012, 03:33 PM
My hair does not like summer in Southern California. :cry: (I'm vacationing here for two weeks, I live more in Northern California.) And I was stupid and thought I wouldn't need to bring my lovely leave in. So I tried leaving in some of my conditioner, but it's just.. not enough. Sigh.
And I would just do updos and not worry about it, but DBF is with me and was giving me puppy dog eyes about how he misses seeing my hair and he's sad that I wear it up aaaaalllllllll the time now and won't I please just wear it in a ponytail or down for a few days?

Nothing like some dry weather to make you appreciate humidity. :rolleyes: My hometown in Oregon gets an inch less annual precipitation than Los Angeles (the east side of the state is NOT the verdant PNW everyone thinks of!) and the dry heat keeps it bearable when the temperature settles in over 100F, but my hair HATES it. I feel your pain. :) I'm in updos all summer.

Neecola
July 20th, 2012, 11:57 AM
I'm posting this picture because I love my waves, and even though I posted a whole thread dedicated to my damp-bun experiment, no one has told me how awesome my hair looks.

Will you guys please oblige me?...Lie if you must:o



Well, allow me to be the first! I just love it! No lies here :) It looks very princess-y.

I've heard about how damp bunning is a good remedy for frizz and I am looking forward to trying it one day.

kitschy
July 20th, 2012, 12:02 PM
Thanks, Neecola It took forever to dry. I had to take down my hair, brush it and retwist it like 100 times. I'm not sure it was worth it. Perhaps I'll try braid waves next.

cmg
July 20th, 2012, 05:23 PM
Had a hair epiphany!

(lol. Silly post is silly because I'm at home dehydrated, sick, lazy, and bored.)

Keep them comin'. I'm having fun reading your posts, they often make me smile.


I'm posting this picture because I love my waves, and even though I posted a whole thread dedicated to my damp-bun experiment, no one has told me how awesome my hair looks.

Will you guys please oblige me?...Lie if you must:o


Your hair is awesome! :D
Seriously, it is!
*cough*
Just kidding. I really love the way it looks in your siggy pic. Makes me dream about when I eventually will let go of the hennaing (I'm white underneath).

/ CMG

gthlvrmx
July 20th, 2012, 05:46 PM
My hair does not like summer in Southern California. :cry: (I'm vacationing here for two weeks, I live more in Northern California.) And I was stupid and thought I wouldn't need to bring my lovely leave in. So I tried leaving in some of my conditioner, but it's just.. not enough. Sigh.
And I would just do updos and not worry about it, but DBF is with me and was giving me puppy dog eyes about how he misses seeing my hair and he's sad that I wear it up aaaaalllllllll the time now and won't I please just wear it in a ponytail or down for a few days?
I guess i had to find the right thing to use to work with my hair and its just conditioner. Hope your hair gets happy though, its nice and safe and comfy in that bun! :D

gthlvrmx
July 20th, 2012, 05:50 PM
3a here! :D I dont know if ive posted before, but i gotta say curls are awesome. Except im not in it to try and make my hair curlier and let hair down all the time in curls. I bun my hair 24/7 :) To keep it safe from getting damaged. I dont care how curly my hair is as long as its healthy. If its healthy, it'll curl. But as it got longer, the spirals are stretching out and im glad actually. It'll show more length instead of shrinking when it gets longer, which is great for me. :) i love my hair :)

oh, which means hopefully some day soon in the next few years, ill have curly hair down to my butt. Butt length curly hair and longer is so impressive to me. stretched, well of course itll be longer :p

jeanniet
July 20th, 2012, 06:09 PM
Q, I just got back from Newport Beach on Sunday. My hair loved the humidity. I guess it's because I am from such an arid, super dry climate, but my hair was super curly and moisturized. Have fun with your DBF, and take your hair down and go wild!



CurlyCap, I'm sure your hair is super gorgeous when it is big. I just love your curls. I get the same response when my hair is misbehaving, like...."I don't see any difference...duh." I can't believe people just don't get as invested in my good hair days as I do.

And on that same thought, today I damp bunned and I love the waves I'm rockin.' No one in my office even noticed that I'm not my normal curly self.

I'm posting this picture because I love my waves, and even though I posted a whole thread dedicated to my damp-bun experiment, no one has told me how awesome my hair looks.

Will you guys please oblige me?...Lie if you must:o

http://images112.fotki.com/v106/photos/0/1803120/9931107/IMG_1288-vi.jpg
I posted in the other thread, but those waves are rockin'! I bet you could get some great waves by braiding, but to be honest I don't think my hair dries any faster braided. I don't know what the answer to that problem is!

jeanniet
July 20th, 2012, 06:13 PM
Q, I just got back from Newport Beach on Sunday. My hair loved the humidity. I guess it's because I am from such an arid, super dry climate, but my hair was super curly and moisturized. Have fun with your DBF, and take your hair down and go wild!

I think Quixii must be more inland--at least I think she means her hair doesn't like the dryness? When I visit my sister in San Clemente, it's often fairly humid, but inland is much drier than up here (Bay Area). We get our share of humidity from fog, but it's not usually warm with humidity, just cool.

jeanniet
July 20th, 2012, 09:02 PM
Guess what I just made? Pressure cooker FSG! I still need to play around with timing a bit, because I stopped it too soon and had to cook it a little more, but it looks like it came out beautifully. It doesn't take a whole lot less time (about 3-4 min.), but the advantage is that you don't lose water to evaporation while you're cooking the seeds. I started with two cups of water and ended up with 1 1/2 cups of nice, thick gel (still cooling, but it's already a good consistency). Didn't lose a whole lot of gel during the straining process, either, although I thought I might--you know how quickly it thickens up and tends to glob with the seeds! Anyway, I'm very pleased with how well this turned out. :D

Quixii
July 21st, 2012, 02:03 AM
Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what my hair doesn't like, since I thought curly hair was supposed to love the humidity. It could be the water, since who knows what the hotel water is like compared to water at home. It could be the heat - it's definitely been hot in Disneyland. It could be the activities. :shrug:

Neecola
July 21st, 2012, 11:13 AM
Awesome idea, jeanniet! I've been thinking about picking up a pressure cooker...

jeanniet
July 21st, 2012, 01:06 PM
Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what my hair doesn't like, since I thought curly hair was supposed to love the humidity. It could be the water, since who knows what the hotel water is like compared to water at home. It could be the heat - it's definitely been hot in Disneyland. It could be the activities. :shrug:
Hotel water is usually soft, and the water up here is hard in nearly all areas, so maybe it's that.

Neecola, pressure cookers are fantastic. I have three of them in various sizes. I use them pretty often--they're great for cooking beans, quinoa, rice, soups, and FSG! There's a learning curve, but once you figure them out you can make really fast meals.

jeanniet
July 21st, 2012, 01:59 PM
I finally got hold of some Tresseme Naturals. It must be very popular around here, because I had to go to four different stores and actually ended up getting it in another county on my way back from taking my son to the airport. I did a CO wash with it last nice--very, very nice! I have a hard time finding conditioners that will work for CO over the long haul, so I hope this does the trick. AND it worked pretty well for detangling in the shower! Not too thin, not too thick. I still combed out a huge gob of hair, but since I hadn't combed at all in two days I don't think it was excessive. Used some leave in, some Curl Keeper (trying that out), and FSG on top, and it all came out quite lovely, considering I'm still fiddling with CG. I have pretty long, loose, spiral curls. Sorry, no pics until hubby gets out of the hospital and I have more time!

Quixii
July 24th, 2012, 01:41 AM
My hair seems to be happier with whatever conditions we're having in San Diego. But I think we'll both be happier to be home. :p

spirals
July 24th, 2012, 02:13 AM
jeanniet, can that gel be made in a crockpot while I'm at work? I love the idea of a vegan gel I can make in my kitchen!

jeanniet
July 24th, 2012, 02:36 AM
jeanniet, can that gel be made in a crockpot while I'm at work? I love the idea of a vegan gel I can make in my kitchen!
I suspect a crockpot would be cooking it too long, but I've read that soaking for 18+ hours releases a lot of the gel. I think you still need to heat it up for a minute or two. Really, though, just cooking and straining it the regular way doesn't take more than about 10 minutes. I'm liking this gel quite a bit--it gives me good curl definition but not a super strong hold, which I don't care for. Lots of shine, too. I used brown flax seeds, but the golden are supposed to be better. I just need to find some.

Be warned: this stuff looks and acts like...snot. To tell you the honest truth, the first time I made it, a couple of weeks ago, I was so squicked out I tossed all of it. But I have a hard time finding gels I like, so I bit the bullet and made it again and just pushed myself past the boogeryness of it. :p I really do like it much better than commercial gels, and it's so cheap!

cmg
July 24th, 2012, 03:31 PM
Be warned: this stuff looks and acts like...snot. To tell you the honest truth, the first time I made it, a couple of weeks ago, I was so squicked out I tossed all of it. But I have a hard time finding gels I like, so I bit the bullet and made it again and just pushed myself past the boogeryness of it. :p I really do like it much better than commercial gels, and it's so cheap!
I feel the same way about it too. It was really yucky for starters but it works very well. I prefer the psyllium seeds though, I only sometimes buy the flax seeds. They last longer.

/ CMG

CurlyCurves
July 24th, 2012, 03:56 PM
Hello everyone! I've been MIA, but I have been stalking this thread silently ;)

Just a few updates on myself.

I suffered heat damage a while back. However, I done a protein treatment followed by a moisturising deep condition, and the curls are bouncing back. Unfortunately, I've had to tell myself 'NO. more. heat', at least until 2013 *gulp*

Also, I am very happy to report that my hair looks shoulder length curly, and a few curls at the back hang a little past shoulder length ^_^

I keep spotting long curlies walking past my work with lovely defined curls and nice length. I get so distracted looking at them that I forget about my customers :laugh:

Hope everyone's okay ^_^


3a here! And might I say, your curls are gorgeous! Also, I love the Superman shirt

Thank you so much!

spirals
July 24th, 2012, 04:10 PM
:lol: "boogeryness"=best made-up word I've heard this year.

Neecola
July 24th, 2012, 04:16 PM
I feel the same way about it too. It was really yucky for starters but it works very well. I prefer the psyllium seeds though, I only sometimes buy the flax seeds. They last longer.

/ CMG

I've never heard of making hair gel from psyllium seeds! I use the husk powder for our critters if their plumbing gets backed up ;) Even that forms quite a gel! What do you prefer about the psyllium seed gel over the FSG?

jeanniet
July 24th, 2012, 04:22 PM
I feel the same way about it too. It was really yucky for starters but it works very well. I prefer the psyllium seeds though, I only sometimes buy the flax seeds. They last longer.

/ CMG
Do you mean the psyllium gel keeps better? Any recipes? I'm always up for cooking hair goo! :D

CurlyCurves
July 24th, 2012, 04:40 PM
I made FSG before as well! It was fun :) unfortunately, it tangles my hair and dries it out :( I've come to realise that my hair just likes to be naked. No leave ins of any kind.

jeanniet
July 24th, 2012, 04:55 PM
:lol: "boogeryness"=best made-up word I've heard this year.
Hey, I figure if my vocabulary's not up to snuff, I'll just pull a word out of thin air. ;)

lilliemer
July 24th, 2012, 09:35 PM
Hey, I figure if my vocabulary's not up to snuff, I'll just pull a word out of thin air. ;)
You may or may not be surprised to learn that there is actually a word for this in German: "Spinnbarkeit," meaning "stretchiness or springiness" (or boogeriness, I guess) particularly referring to biological substances. Often used to refer to cervical mucus when during ovulation. Perhaps TMI but I just had to share because it's such a delightful word! :p

Shepherdess
July 24th, 2012, 09:42 PM
Hello everyone! Another 3a here! :D

CurlyCurves
July 25th, 2012, 03:11 PM
Hello everyone! Another 3a here! :D

Hello :D

Welcome!

jeanniet
July 25th, 2012, 03:42 PM
You may or may not be surprised to learn that there is actually a word for this in German: "Spinnbarkeit," meaning "stretchiness or springiness" (or boogeriness, I guess) particularly referring to biological substances. Often used to refer to cervical mucus when during ovulation. Perhaps TMI but I just had to share because it's such a delightful word! :p

I'm taking German at the community college in the fall. I'm terrible at languages, and I've been plugging away at German on my own, but I figure a formal class won't hurt. I love the way German puts words together!

jeanniet
July 25th, 2012, 03:51 PM
I bought some golden flaxseeds today--they're supposed to be better than the brown, so I'll try them out next time I make the gel. I also want to try thickening it up a little, adding magnesium sulfate (epsom salts--supposed to enhance curl), AVG, etc.

cmg
July 26th, 2012, 06:21 PM
Do you mean the psyllium gel keeps better? Any recipes? I'm always up for cooking hair goo! :D

I'm not doing anything special. Ĺ-1 tablespoon ful of seeds and one big cup of water. Its been a long time since I used the flax seeds so I hardly remember how they worked. They are similar. I think the psyllium give a slightly stronger gel and more shine. It was easier to chrunch out the locks also. Curls lasted longer for me and also a small bag of seeds lasts for much longer. I went thru the flax seeds alot quicker. I finally got the hang of filtering last year (I used a coffee press) but since i started to use the psyllium seeds I use a nylon stocking. I can cut out 7 filters out of a stocking :) I have never liked the mess with other filtering methods.

I have alot of reciepes but I dont usually make anything fussy. Just the raw stuff and this you can also freeze portions in the icecube box for later usage. Here is one reciepe if you really want to pamper yourself:

The "Psyllium Curl Pamper" :stirpot:

* One tablespoon Psyllium seeds (most people use more, up to 2 tablespoons :rolleyes: This would get too thick too handle for me.
* 250 ml water directly from the boiler.
(you can substitute the seeds with 2 tablespoons of flax seeds to 250 ml water, but they have to simmer for 12-15 minutes)

Let stand for a few minutes, stir some.
Put in the microwave til it boils. Stir. Repeat.
Let cool down and stand for an hour. This usually lets the slime get thick enough. Some people prefer to boil it for up to 15 minutes. I never do that. Some people can just let it stand over night, but this doesnt get it thick enough for me.

If you use the larger amount of the seeds, then you have to filter them out while the gel is still warm! Otherwise you create a big unmanipulatable clump :( I put it thru my stocking-filter after cooling some.

After the mix has cooled down and being filtered you add:

* 1 teaspoon of glycerol (or depending on how much gel you produced, it can shrink away alot while boiling)
* 2 drops of your favourite ess. oil (my favourites are lime, lavender, basile, neroli, patchouli, grape, rosemary, cedarwood, sandal wood, coronation)

It is also possible to boil the seeds together with rosemary, lavender, basile, tea rose or other scenty leaves. They do nothing for the appearance of the gel (Uaghh) but they make it smell nicer!

For extra shine:
* Ĺ-1 teaspoon of your favourite hair oil - fex jojoba (amount depends on how much gel you produced and on your hair).

For curl enhancement:
* Ad a pinch of epsom salt, glauber salt or ordinary salt. You can add up to a teaspoon if you like. This really pops up the curls, also for wavies!

Other additives to the gel can be Aloe Vera gel, raw honey or condish. Be careful with the amounts.

The water can be substituted with camomille tea, rooibos tea or linden flower tea and perhaps alot of other nice teas. Rose water or lavender water can also be used.

It stores a few days or up to a week in the fridge. The pure gel without any additives can be frozen (ice cubes make nice little portions for usage).

For preservation, if you want to travel with it or store it longer:
* 10-12 drops of paraben

Disclaimers:
The brownish color can stain a little on white clothes (it doesnt discolor the hair).
Some people have experienced flakes or little clumps if mixed with condish.
It stores bad if you arent careful with the hygiene of bottles, filters etc.

/ CMG

jeanniet
July 26th, 2012, 06:30 PM
Thanks! I'll have to try it out, that is if I can get hold of the seeds. I tried thickening the FSG up a bit with arrowroot powder, and that seemed to work pretty well. I washed my hair this afternoon and have some of the thickened gel in, so I'll see what it looks like after it all dries.

I need to train myself to wash my hair in the morning. I usually wash in the afternoon because I'm busy with other things, but then it's not dry by bedtime and the curl pattern gets messed up overnight. If I wash in the morning, it might actually dry by evening and I could see what the heck it looks like before getting smooshed overnight.

CurlyCap
July 26th, 2012, 06:37 PM
Sigh.

My hair is behaving insanely. It's rejecting everything I know it likes and asking for different things. It's driving me crazy.

I've been shampooing nearly every night for a week with Joice Chelating Shampoo (clarifying and chelating and protein...all of which my hair hate), followed by Tresseme Naturals. Leave in is optional and only for super springy defined curls. With every shampoo, by hair looks and feels better when usually shampoo leaves my hair dry and angry for days, no matter the conditioner.

I don't know what to do. Common sense tells me I must be doing something right because my hair is responding well to the treatment. 30 years as a curly girl is telling me to run away from the shampoo.

Sigh.

Just....sigh.

CurlyCurves
July 26th, 2012, 06:57 PM
Ugh. Today.

Tried a heatless straightening method. (brushing wet hair in front of a fan). Didn't work.

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/557154_4400316286473_2063944800_n.jpg

Ended up doing my weekly DC routine. Made the mistake of doing a chai tea rinse. INSTANT. STRAW.

Seriously. It felt stripped, more than it's ever been stripped in its life.

I used these;

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/562874_4400343607156_1456694412_n.jpg.

My hair is dry now, and feels .. okay. Feels a bit dry. Will baggy tonight and cowash as per usual tomorrow.

Megawatt shine, though.

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/488005_4400686935739_157120524_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/557895_4400695295948_970761447_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/406295_4400684935689_390778859_n.jpg

By the way, this. THIS is THE. BEST. conditioner ever. AMAZING slip, and protein free so great for when you need moisture without protein :)

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/524002_4400327766760_490169467_n.jpg

Lastly, just because :)

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/382470_4400411408851_57742246_n.jpg

That's my update! How is everyone?

HappyHair87
July 26th, 2012, 09:05 PM
So..i just finished combing out a small dread with oil and water....and then i finished oiling (with castor oil) on top of the water and but my hair into two messy huge chunky braids and bobby pinned the ends under.

My hair has grown bc i was NOT able to even TRY to do a braid on my hair WHILE CURLY! WOOOOHOOOO...!!!!:laugh:

CurlyCap
July 26th, 2012, 09:12 PM
So..i just finished combing out a small dread with oil and water....and then i finished oiling (with castor oil) on top of the water and but my hair into two messy huge chunky braids and bobby pinned the ends under.

My hair has grown bc i was NOT able to even TRY to do a braid on my hair WHILE CURLY! WOOOOHOOOO...!!!!:laugh:


Congrats!

I made the stubbiest little braid in the shower the other day and was all dancing in the co-wash.

Aren't curly growth markers awesome? :D

cmg
July 26th, 2012, 09:45 PM
Aren't curly growth markers awesome? :D

:D

I took a look in the mirror and my hair has started to grow again after having a rest for a month. OK Back in business.

I found some catnip on my shopping tour today. I will try this as a rinse next.

/ CMG

cmg
July 26th, 2012, 09:55 PM
Thanks! I'll have to try it out, that is if I can get hold of the seeds. I tried thickening the FSG up a bit with arrowroot powder, and that seemed to work pretty well. I washed my hair this afternoon and have some of the thickened gel in, so I'll see what it looks like after it all dries.

I usually wash in the afternoon too.

I have been experimenting with arrowroot some. It works well in henna etc because it doesnt become spongy when freezing. Here is more info:
http://baking911.com/learn/ingredients/thickeners

Just remembered: A while ago I had a big FAIL with the flax seeds. I boiled some and it became a big lump. Thats it. Just a lump. Could have used it as a ball to play with but nothing else :D Doing doing doing :rolleyes:

Just sharing, so you dont let too much water boil away.

/ CMG

salamander
July 26th, 2012, 09:58 PM
Ugh. Today.
Ended up doing my weekly DC routine. Made the mistake of doing a chai tea rinse. INSTANT. STRAW.


I never thought about chai as a rinse. Tea and honey definitely make sense, come to think of it. What all was in the chai?

jeanniet
July 27th, 2012, 12:53 AM
I usually wash in the afternoon too.

I have been experimenting with arrowroot some. It works well in henna etc because it doesnt become spongy when freezing. Here is more info:
http://baking911.com/learn/ingredients/thickeners

Just remembered: A while ago I had a big FAIL with the flax seeds. I boiled some and it became a big lump. Thats it. Just a lump. Could have used it as a ball to play with but nothing else :D Doing doing doing :rolleyes:

Just sharing, so you dont let too much water boil away.

/ CMG
I use arrowroot in cooking, so had it around and figured I'd try it out. Worked just fine!

I'm doing my experiments with a pressure cooker, so there isn't too much loss of liquid. I still need to be careful not too cook too long or the gel gets too thick anyway.

CurlyCurves
July 27th, 2012, 03:23 AM
I never thought about chai as a rinse. Tea and honey definitely make sense, come to think of it. What all was in the chai?

Ingredients;

Black tea (63%), Ginger root (10%), Cinnamon (8%), Black pepper, Cardamom, Star anise (3%), Cloves and natural flavour.

No wonder it stripped my hair :/

lilliemer
July 31st, 2012, 10:31 PM
I think my hair forgot how to be 3a! Here is my hair air dried with leave in about 6 weeks ago.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7504900212_1a1cdd95df_m.jpg

And here is a pic I took this evening. I co-washed and added my usual shea butter leave in. I had waves/spirals in the morning and by the end of the day ended up with this:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8144/7688722048_df77b38d81_m.jpg

Now i realize that the back of my hair is not as curly than the front. But these look like two different people's heads of hair (and they're not I swear!)! And, the same thing is going on on the front and sides too (i.e., curls are GONE).

Ignore the color differences as that's just due to weird hotel bathroom lighting in the new (non-curly) one.

I should also mention that I had a cut in between these two pictures as well. I am trying to cut layers out, the hairstylist did a nice job of getting rid of my layers but I'm wondering if the layers were really enhancing the curl? Do I get kicked out of the 3 thread now? (But I like you guys!:( )

On the bright side I'm inching closer to BSL...even though it doesn't really feel like it most of the time.

jeanniet
July 31st, 2012, 10:57 PM
I think my hair forgot how to be 3a! Here is my hair air dried with leave in about 6 weeks ago.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7504900212_1a1cdd95df_m.jpg

And here is a pic I took this evening. I co-washed and added my usual shea butter leave in. I had waves/spirals in the morning and by the end of the day ended up with this:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8144/7688722048_df77b38d81_m.jpg

Now i realize that the back of my hair is not as curly than the front. But these look like two different people's heads of hair (and they're not I swear!)! And, the same thing is going on on the front and sides too (i.e., curls are GONE).

Ignore the color differences as that's just due to weird hotel bathroom lighting in the new (non-curly) one.

I should also mention that I had a cut in between these two pictures as well. I am trying to cut layers out, the hairstylist did a nice job of getting rid of my layers but I'm wondering if the layers were really enhancing the curl? Do I get kicked out of the 3 thread now? (But I like you guys!:( )

On the bright side I'm inching closer to BSL...even though it doesn't really feel like it most of the time.
Lol, no, you're still a 3 even if it doesn't always look like it. My hair can go relatively straight (well, wavy, but not curly), especially at this length and if I comb it, but will still go very 3a after washing and anytime with some prodding. What I get in particular is those spiral curls at the ends and for about 10" up, then they start loosening up, although they still spiral.

ariesfairies
August 1st, 2012, 10:11 AM
I think my hair forgot how to be 3a! Here is my hair air dried with leave in about 6 weeks ago.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7504900212_1a1cdd95df_m.jpg

And here is a pic I took this evening. I co-washed and added my usual shea butter leave in. I had waves/spirals in the morning and by the end of the day ended up with this:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8144/7688722048_df77b38d81_m.jpg

Now i realize that the back of my hair is not as curly than the front. But these look like two different people's heads of hair (and they're not I swear!)! And, the same thing is going on on the front and sides too (i.e., curls are GONE).

Ignore the color differences as that's just due to weird hotel bathroom lighting in the new (non-curly) one.

I should also mention that I had a cut in between these two pictures as well. I am trying to cut layers out, the hairstylist did a nice job of getting rid of my layers but I'm wondering if the layers were really enhancing the curl? Do I get kicked out of the 3 thread now? (But I like you guys!:( )

On the bright side I'm inching closer to BSL...even though it doesn't really feel like it most of the time.

Is that after leaving your hair in a ponytail? I assume so because the top half is flat up to the point where I usually suspect a ponytail to be starting from that's all P:

I assume layers do effect curls though, the top layer will kick out on top of the layer of curls below and so on. I have some in my hair closer to the end, when I didn't have it you couldn't see a fresh layer of curls beneath the shortest layer on top.

I'd say let it grow out a little more and see how you fair. I'd think you'd be the same type though.

niaiman
August 1st, 2012, 12:22 PM
I'm in the 3's guys!


http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/japout14/tumblr_m7r1nx3Zkh1rbjmedo1_1280.jpg

After a DC

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/japout14/tumblr_m7i5lm0UCo1rbjmedo1_500.jpg

After using coconut oil as my sealant


http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/japout14/next.jpg

Extreme shrinkage

niaiman
August 1st, 2012, 12:38 PM
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/japout14/tumblr_m7u849yyJP1rbjmedo1_1280.jpg
Sorry for the pic dump, but this is my 3 everything hair.

CurlyCap
August 1st, 2012, 02:28 PM
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/japout14/tumblr_m7u849yyJP1rbjmedo1_1280.jpg
Sorry for the pic dump, but this is my 3 everything hair.

So pretty!

I see lots of larger ringlets separated by frizz. My guess is that you need to figure out a system to clean up your clumping.

For me, oil never works to promote enough clumping and proper "leave-ins" are never heavy enough. I get mad frizz too with the system you described. Have you tried leaving an indecent amount of cone-free regular conditioner in your hair after a wash? It's heavier and better for clumping if your hair likes product. You can experiment using something cheap. Suave and VO5 are still my go-tos, even though there are "nicer" products out there. Apply to wet hair, finger comb through as best you can (or use a very wide tooth comb) and leave alone until completely dry.

Worth a shot.

SO PRETTY. Hee! I'm so happy so many new 3s and 4s are joining LHC.

Welcome!

lilliemer
August 1st, 2012, 04:13 PM
Is that after leaving your hair in a ponytail? I assume so because the top half is flat up to the point where I usually suspect a ponytail to be starting from that's all P:

I assume layers do effect curls though, the top layer will kick out on top of the layer of curls below and so on. I have some in my hair closer to the end, when I didn't have it you couldn't see a fresh layer of curls beneath the shortest layer on top.

I'd say let it grow out a little more and see how you fair. I'd think you'd be the same type though.

Yes now that I think of it I did have it up for part of the day. My hair usually ends up annoying me when it's down at some point in the day and I'll put it in a twist or a cinnabun. I think that's why it has that first big, weird bend to the right, as I always twist it the same way. The top is persistently a bit flat and I start losing curl as soon as it's all the way dry (unless I use gel, which I dislike).

I also found a few lingering spirals IMMEDIATELY after I wrote that post, my hair evidently conspiring with LHC to make me eat my words, lol.

niaiman
August 1st, 2012, 08:29 PM
No I haven't, I just gave up on my frizz because it's frizzy even while wet in that crown area which I'm thinking is a porosity issue. My bigger curls are at the top of my head and you're right all it is is frizzy and undefined.
What I did recently was apply a ton of giovanni's direct leave in, comb it through then seal with the oil and don't touch it anymore which was so much better and without frizz but I had to fluff it up to get the volume I usually have.

niaiman
August 2nd, 2012, 03:58 AM
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/japout14/tumblr_m7u64bMbct1rbjmedo1_1280.jpg

Here's the top of my head, it's normally frizzy but I believe that's the most defined those curls have ever been, that layer is also the longest and always has been, even when I was a child

CTH3989
August 2nd, 2012, 12:02 PM
I just wanted to say hi. I'm a lurker in this thread. I have more 4A than 3C hair, but all of my 3C hair is on the outer layer so it's what people see first.

jeanniet
August 2nd, 2012, 12:29 PM
I'm in the 3's guys!


http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/japout14/tumblr_m7r1nx3Zkh1rbjmedo1_1280.jpg

After a DC

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/japout14/tumblr_m7i5lm0UCo1rbjmedo1_500.jpg

After using coconut oil as my sealant


http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/japout14/next.jpg

Extreme shrinkage
I'm not seeing any of your pictures!

niaiman
August 2nd, 2012, 12:39 PM
I'm not seeing any of your pictures!

I wonder if I'm I the only one that can see them.

kitschy
August 2nd, 2012, 12:46 PM
I wonder if I'm I the only one that can see them.

I see them. Your hair is gorgeous.

niaiman
August 2nd, 2012, 12:50 PM
I see them. Your hair is gorgeous.

Thank you so much Kistchy.

niaiman
August 2nd, 2012, 12:54 PM
Thank you so much Kistchy.

And so are yours!

jeanniet
August 2nd, 2012, 01:01 PM
I wonder if I'm I the only one that can see them.
Sorry, I refreshed and now I see them. Beautiful!

niaiman
August 2nd, 2012, 01:12 PM
Sorry, I refreshed and now I see them. Beautiful!

Thank you, Jeanniet

cmg
August 2nd, 2012, 01:14 PM
Went home early and did an oiling with about 90-100 cl coconut oil. Weather was dry and warm. The plan was to wash the hair later this evening. Did lots of stuffs at home, not thinking about my head any more. Suddenly I felt the urge to check what my hair looked like when brushed. While brushing, I suddenly remembered I had put oil in it a few hours ago - it had almost completely dissapeared :bigeyes:

I know it can drink alot of CO during over night treatments, but this was a bit unexpected. I guess it was about time a did this again. :)

/ CMG

Curly Crone
August 2nd, 2012, 02:08 PM
I think I belong here. I couldn't get any pictures to show that weren't tiny so here is the link to my album, feel free to look. :)

http://s1066.photobucket.com/albums/u416/CurlyCrone/

kitschy
August 2nd, 2012, 03:29 PM
I think I belong here. I couldn't get any pictures to show that weren't tiny so here is the link to my album, feel free to look. :)

http://s1066.photobucket.com/albums/u416/CurlyCrone/

Your hair is so long and shiny, it is beautiful. Looks like you could be a 3a to me. Welcome to the club!

jeanniet
August 2nd, 2012, 03:47 PM
I think I belong here. I couldn't get any pictures to show that weren't tiny so here is the link to my album, feel free to look. :)

http://s1066.photobucket.com/albums/u416/CurlyCrone/
I love your silver curls--and I think you have the best handle ever!

spirals
August 2nd, 2012, 04:16 PM
I tried something new today: soap wash, no acid rinse, rinse-out conditioner, shea moisture leave-in. I'll try to get a pic when it dries if I don't have bedhead after my nap.

spirals
August 2nd, 2012, 08:17 PM
I had bedhead, so I didn't take a pic. But I can tell you the texture is simlar to what I had on shampoo/conditioner/leave-in/gel. It's less shiny without the gel, though. Citric acid rinses don't make it shiny, either, so no loss there.

Heatherzilla
August 2nd, 2012, 10:02 PM
This thread gives me serious curl envy. You all have such gorgeous hair. So much curly goodness going on. =]

I think I might have to start investing in some nice products since I don't currently use anything on my hair most of the time. I have some of this stuff (http://www.rprhaircare.com.au/view/rpr_retail/styling/make_me_curly/) which does make my curls awesome, but it also makes my hair a lil sticky and tangle prone and second day hair is just not happening with that stuff. Recommend me all your favourite things.

spirals
August 3rd, 2012, 01:39 AM
Shea Moisture moisture milk! It has coconut oil and shea butter and it makes the best leave-in. I am also experiencing less hair fall and thicker hair since I stopped using shampoo. Citric acid rinse gives me tighter curls.

niaiman
August 8th, 2012, 06:50 PM
So I tried leaving my regular conditioner in my hair and nothing else and ths is how it turned out

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/japout14/tumblr_m8ehmmDmy61rbjmedo1_1280.jpg

Then my bf came and did his magic (messing up) and it turned into this.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/japout14/tumblr_m8ehnvxxlx1rbjmedo1_1280.jpg

niaiman
August 8th, 2012, 07:53 PM
So I tried leaving my regular conditioner in my hair and nothing else and ths is how it turned out

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/japout14/tumblr_m8ehmmDmy61rbjmedo1_1280.jpg

Then my bf came and did his magic (messing up) and it turned into this.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r96/japout14/tumblr_m8ehnvxxlx1rbjmedo1_1280.jpg

My hair looks like Black and Purple puff Cheetos

CurlyCap
August 19th, 2012, 04:21 PM
I was complimented twice at the market for my curls. :D It made working that 1/4 cup of coconut oil through my hair last night worth it. :pinktongue:

And I think it's official. As my hair is getting longer, it's getting curlier. When i was growing out my pixie, I was so confused because my hair didn't seem as curly as I remembered it. Well, for the last few months, I've been adding about an 1" a month, but my hemline has stayed firm or even moved up. My clumps have been making some mad tight helixes where the turns are only a few mms apart. IT IS AWESOME. These are the curls I remember. The may me happy.

Anyway, this thread has been too quiet so I'm bumping for traffic. How have all of you been doing?

Elithia
August 19th, 2012, 05:04 PM
And I think it's official. As my hair is getting longer, it's getting curlier. When i was growing out my pixie, I was so confused because my hair didn't seem as curly as I remembered it.

My hair texture is very different at different lengths. The curls are much bigger when it's short. When it's long the top is loopy and the ends are tight ringlets. I would say I get the tightest overall curl between shoulder and BSL, but my end ringlets are nicer and nicer the longer it gets.

A curly I know asked me the other day how I get it to keep the curl from weighing down and stretching out when it gets longer, and I was surprised because I feel like it does--the bottom 10 inches is always curl and the top has a lot of root curl and then loosens for a lot of the length. But who knows. I'm mostly excited to see what its texture is like as it gets past hip. :D This is the longest it's been since I started wearing it properly curly, and I really don't know what it'll look like!