Natural toners for improving cool tones and reducing yellowing

[afu]

I was just wondering if anyone has any recipes or suggestions for natural (or non-damaging) toning treatments. My hair is ashy blonde with bleach highlights, but since i stopped using a violet toner (chemical/commercial one) my hair has taken on a much warmer, yellowy/golden shade which i don't like with my skintone. i've read that hollyhock or betony can be used as a rinse to remove yellowing but can't seem to get any.

Does anyone else have any recommendations? the health of my hair is priority at the moment so if i have to stick with the warmer shade i will but any other possibilities would be greatly appreciated :)

[Oksana]

Not natural but I use toning conditioner which is completely non damaging. Someone else might be able to suggest something natural..

[afu]

thanks, i have a toning/blue conditioning treatment which takes 3mins to work but seems great - ive not used it in ages though as im worried about potential damage. i guess i'll have to do more research into the ingredients and see if i can start using it again. I use a CO wash routine so not sure where to add the violet conditoner.

i'll prob start experimently re-introducing the violet conditioner until i can find something more natural. thanks for commenting - your hair looks in brilliant condition so if the conditoner works for you im re-inspired to give it another go!

[afu]

Also, this is the treatment i have:
http://www.ukhairdressers.com/store/details.asp?ID=Revnutricolorcreme

i have the white platinum and it acts as an intensive conditoner while adding the violet tone, unfortuantly i can't seem to find the ingredients list right now

[koala]

I know Manic Panic makes one. It's meant to make hair pure white, but I imagine it would do about the same thing. And afaik, their dyes are completely non-damaging.

[clanless]

I will look into this as well.

[Amethyste]

Look into the Manic Panic Virgin White snow...

[UpNorth]

Also, this is the treatment i have:
http://www.ukhairdressers.com/store/details.asp?ID=Revnutricolorcreme

i have the white platinum and it acts as an intensive conditoner while adding the violet tone, unfortuantly i can't seem to find the ingredients list right now

Same here!

[afu]

Thanks everyone, i actually went on and ordered some La Riche directions in 'white toner' last night, so i'll give it a try and then maybe try the manic panic if i don't get the desired results. I do love the revlon one i have but the results aren't as dramatic as i'd like, so if the directions works i might use it intermittently with the revlon.

In a perfect world i would like to find something natural so i'll be keeping a look out, it seems there are multiple ways to get almost every other colour - but not the grey tone!

[Katze]

There have been several threads on this topic; I started one some years ago. 'drabbing' was the phrase often used.

Basically no natural product can deposit enough blue/violet color to be worth using. I think Spidermom experimented with blackberries (lucky lady to have such a surplus of blackberries!) and got a light violet hue that faded, if I remember correctly.

When I was a bleach-head, I once used yoghurt and blueberries as a supposed natural conditioner and toner. However, this did not work as well as violet shampoos or temporary colors (like manic panic or directions).

My hairdresser told me that my hair, for example, just has a lot of red pigment to it, and thus, any time I bleach at all, I am going to get orange, yellow, and/or brassy.

[spidermom]

Yup, blackberries took my golden hairs more into ash with a slight violet hue. It faded away with one wash.

I also used senna tea (Smooth Move) in a deep conditioning treatment, and it took my hair into more ashy tones. Again, this washed out when I washed my hair.

[afu]

Thanks for sharing spidermon. I guess it seems that nature isn't keen on the colour blue, hehe. i'm looking forward to receiving my directions and seeing if it works - has anyone else used it before? my hair used to be fine having a toner put on at the salon, the ashyness would last right through till the next salon visit - but since i started COing and using coconut oil for some reason im getting a much more golden colour. Not sure why as my conditioner is white and coconut oil is white/colourless, odd.

[Valfreyja]

Perhaps you could try mixing the Manic Panic into your shampoo so your hair colour gets a regular cool boost in the shower? Just a thought.

[afu]

Perhaps you could try mixing the Manic Panic into your shampoo so your hair colour gets a regular cool boost in the shower? Just a thought.

I did think of adding it to my conditoner as i don't use shampoo, but i think it takes about 30mins to work so would take longer than a regular hairwash to do anything. I've used the revlon stuff twice this week and have seen a visable result, would be nice to have something a bit more drastic and long lasting though

[UpNorth]

Spidermom: How does blackberries act on hair? despite the colour? Is there any reason not to rinse your hair everytime you wash it? How much do you need etc.

[Anje]

Perhaps you could try mixing the Manic Panic into your shampoo so your hair colour gets a regular cool boost in the shower? Just a thought.
I've heard of people doing this with blue or purple shades of Manic Panic (or similar dyes) rather than with the toner, mixed into conditioner. It would only take a small dab for a whole bottle, so the dye would last nearly forever.

Not blond though, so I can't really tell you whether it works or not from personal experience. I'd speculate that you might want to keep a no-dye bottle on hand in case the toning starts to get too intense.

[spidermom]

Spidermom: How does blackberries act on hair? despite the colour? Is there any reason not to rinse your hair everytime you wash it? How much do you need etc.

The only negative is that it takes a lot of blackberries to get enough juice to saturate your hair. I put the berries into a porous bag (sold for precisely this purpose), crushed them, then hung the bag above a bowl or saucepan until all the juice dripped out. I got about 1/3 the volume of juice compared to the volume of berries that I started with, maybe less - I didn't measure.

Now I have a juicer and will use that if I ever try this again or want to make blackberry jelly. I definitely wouldn't leave the seeds or pulp in; I don't know if I'd ever get all the debris out of my hair or teeth (tried blackberry jam once; too seedy).