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Skruttiz
January 29th, 2012, 09:36 AM
Hi all girls and guys.
Im going to have an operation on friday this week and then I must wash my hair with a terrible soap called Descutan.
That doesnt do anything good to the hair. A pice of steelwool feels like softly compared to my hair after washing. :(

Is there any way I can protect my hair from the worst dehydration?
Can I "boost it up" during this week?

Someone who can help me? Pleeeeeease! :o

Kelikea
January 29th, 2012, 09:47 AM
I tried googling descutan and its pH and as far as I can tell, it is similar to hibiclens, which is more commonly used in the US, which has a pH of 5-6.5. I was originally going to suggest doing an acidic rinse, as most soaps are basic, but this one seems to already be pH balanced for the skin. Perhaps doing a deep conditioning treatment or SMT the day before you have to use it would help? I would not recommend putting anything else in your hair after washing, because it would not be as "clean." My suggestion for after washing would be to pin it up with a sanitized clip until you get home and can condition it properly.

Long_hair_bear
January 29th, 2012, 10:09 AM
Hi all girls and guys.
Im going to have an operation on friday this week and then I must wash my hair with a terrible soap called Descutan.
That doesnt do anything good to the hair. A pice of steelwool feels like softly compared to my hair after washing. :(

Is there any way I can protect my hair from the worst dehydration?
Can I "boost it up" during this week?

Someone who can help me? Pleeeeeease! :o

I don't know about your hair but may God watch over you during your operation. (if you're an atheist, the powers that be) :flowers:

Skruttiz
January 29th, 2012, 10:47 AM
I tried googling descutan and its pH and as far as I can tell, it is similar to hibiclens, which is more commonly used in the US, which has a pH of 5-6.5. I was originally going to suggest doing an acidic rinse, as most soaps are basic, but this one seems to already be pH balanced for the skin. Perhaps doing a deep conditioning treatment or SMT the day before you have to use it would help? I would not recommend putting anything else in your hair after washing, because it would not be as "clean." My suggestion for after washing would be to pin it up with a sanitized clip until you get home and can condition it properly.

Thank you for your answer Kelikea!
Deep conditioning treatment may do my hair good.
I dont understand what you mean by SMT. Can you please tell me what that is? My bad english is causing me problem sometimes.

Im not allowed to use anything like pins during operation, but I will do a braid instead.

Skruttiz
January 29th, 2012, 10:49 AM
I don't know about your hair but may God watch over you during your operation. (if you're an atheist, the powers that be) :flowers:

Thank you very much! Youre very kind!!!! :blossom:

Of the Fae
January 29th, 2012, 10:53 AM
You could also try not to wash your hair until it is so greasy when you need to use that soap. The natural oils prevent it from dehydrating too much. Using extra virgin olive or mineral oil afterwards may help too!

Maktub
January 29th, 2012, 11:14 AM
Best prayers for your operation !

Have you asked if you can condition your hair after using the shampoo ?

lets say using anything on you hair after shampoo is impossible, this is what I would do :


I would do a micro-trimm of the ends, or dusting. Or a trimm if you need it. Just so the ends are blunt cut and stronger.

Then, I would do a very moisturising mask before the shampoo. On damp hair, I would apply a rich conditionner mixed with honey, aloe vera and some oil... let this sit under a plastic cap (or plastic wrap) covered scarf a few hours, so that your body heat lets it warm up very well.

Rinse hair out only a little with not too warm / cool water, apply more of a very rich conditionner, detangle hair very well - and very very delicatey - with a big comb while you have the conditionner slip in your hair, and rinse this out a little but not too well either.


Now, keep your head up and try not to cause any tangles :

Shampoo with the shampoo, do it well and completely, but do not leave it in too long either. Do not "mix" the hair, caress it top down delicately so as not to cause tangles !

Rinse very well to get it all out. But not too long either, as this could be even more drying... Do all this with not too warm water.

End with a cold water rinse.

get the excess water out delicately with a towel (still head up, do not cause tangles)

delicately braid your wet / damp hair. Secure it with a scrunchy or elastic that is safe for hair (no metal parts) and do not touch it anymore. The best would be a silk scrunchy, if you have one. If your hair is like straw, do not try to comb it yet. If it is ok, you can comb it** delicately when dry and braid it again.


After the surgery is done (how long until you can wash your hair again ?), do another deep conditonner treatment like above, under a plastic cap. And co-wash it out (wash it out with only conditionner) without using shampoo right away, unless you find it necessary. If you feel that your hair really need a shampoo, then try a mild dilluted shampoo only, and work from there.


Best of luck !! :flower:



** always use a wide tooth wood or bone or seemless comb if possible

Skruttiz
January 30th, 2012, 12:35 AM
You could also try not to wash your hair until it is so greasy when you need to use that soap. The natural oils prevent it from dehydrating too much. Using extra virgin olive or mineral oil afterwards may help too!

I havent thought about that. That might be a good idea.
Thank you for your answer, Of the Fae!

Skruttiz
January 30th, 2012, 01:01 AM
Best prayers for your operation !

Have you asked if you can condition your hair after using the shampoo ?

lets say using anything on you hair after shampoo is impossible, this is what I would do :

I would do a micro-trimm of the ends, or dusting. Or a trimm if you need it. Just so the ends are blunt cut and stronger.
Then, I would do a very moisturising mask before the shampoo. On damp hair, I would apply a rich conditionner mixed with honey, aloe vera and some oil... let this sit under a plastic cap (or plastic wrap) covered scarf a few hours, so that your body heat lets it warm up very well.
Rinse hair out only a little with not too warm / cool water, apply more of a very rich conditionner, detangle hair very well - and very very delicatey - with a big comb while you have the conditionner slip in your hair, and rinse this out a little but not too well either.


Now, keep your head up and try not to cause any tangles :
Shampoo with the shampoo, do it well and completely, but do not leave it in too long either. Do not "mix" the hair, caress it top down delicately so as not to cause tangles !
Rinse very well to get it all out. But not too long either, as this could be even more drying... Do all this with not too warm water.
End with a cold water rinse.
get the excess water out delicately with a towel (still head up, do not cause tangles)
delicately braid your wet / damp hair. Secure it with a scrunchy or elastic that is safe for hair (no metal parts) and do not touch it anymore. The best would be a silk scrunchy, if you have one. If your hair is like straw, do not try to comb it yet. If it is ok, you can comb it** delicately when dry and braid it again.
After the surgery is done (how long until you can wash your hair again ?), do another deep conditonner treatment like above, under a plastic cap. And co-wash it out (wash it out with only conditionner) without using shampoo right away, unless you find it necessary. If you feel that your hair really need a shampoo, then try a mild dilluted shampoo only, and work from there.
Best of luck !! :flower:



** always use a wide tooth wood or bone or seemless comb if possible

Thank you very much for your sentiment, Maktub! :blossom:

Yes Ive asked about conditioner and they said: Absolutely NO!
Many swedish hospitals are very severe with the rules.

I will do a microtrimm as you suggested.
I havent got any possibility to do a moisturing mask the same day as the operation but I can do it the day before instead.

I will follow your instructions about the washing but Im not allowed to use any elastics, pins or such things and I have to cover the whole hair with a cap of fabric.

I think I can wash my hair again after about one week if I let my husband help me.

Thank you for your help Maktub!

Skruttiz
January 30th, 2012, 01:09 AM
I will take the chance to thank all of you very much for your reply!

Ive done many surgerys the last years and that has caused so much damage to my hair and I feel kind of sad for that.
This time I feel, with the help I got from you, it will end up much better.

Im very happy I found this community where all the people are so nice!!!! :heart:

Nordlilja
January 30th, 2012, 04:10 AM
Hi Skruttiz! I am so sorry that you have to spend so much time in hospital! I guess that you already are awere of this, but bring a body lotion so that you can mostiurise (spelling?) your skin as soon as possible after the surgery. I guess the soap will make your skin itch like crazy.

SMT is a mixture of conditioner, honey and aloe vera gel. It is used as a deep treatment, or as we say in Sweden, "inpackning":cheese:!

Kelikea
January 30th, 2012, 05:05 AM
SMT is snowymoon's Moisture Treatment Here is the link:
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=128&highlight=snowymoon+moisture

Skruttiz
January 30th, 2012, 09:19 AM
Hi Skruttiz! I am so sorry that you have to spend so much time in hospital! I guess that you already are awere of this, but bring a body lotion so that you can mostiurise (spelling?) your skin as soon as possible after the surgery. I guess the soap will make your skin itch like crazy.

SMT is a mixture of conditioner, honey and aloe vera gel. It is used as a deep treatment, or as we say in Sweden, "inpackning":cheese:!

Hi Nordlilja and thank you for your answer!
OK, its an "inpackning". Then I know what it is and what the ingredients are.

Yes, the skin becomes very dry also. I really like that soap..... NOT! ;)

Skruttiz
January 30th, 2012, 09:22 AM
SMT is snowymoon's Moisture Treatment Here is the link:
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=128&highlight=snowymoon+moisture

Im a newbie so Ive never heard about SMT.

Thank you for your answer, Kelikea! :)

ktani
January 30th, 2012, 09:38 AM
ETA: All the best to you and wishes for a speedy recovery.

This may help you boost your hair's moisture level this week, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=86298.

It can work well the first try. You can condition beforehand lightly, or not. Applying mineral oil/baby oil drops to damp hair helps hold extra moisture (water) in your hair by slowing the rate it evaporates from hair better than other oils and treatments can do.

All any moisturizing treatment does is the same thing, help hold moisture in the hair and in some cases attract moisture from the air to the hair. If however the air is dry, a humectant can help make hair more dry, depending on the amount used.

Mineral oil will not seal your hair from atmospheric moisture vapour. It is antistatic and helps prevent frizz.

ladyshep
January 30th, 2012, 12:36 PM
I hope your operation goes well. I would have to agree with someone who mentioned the mineral oil. Put a little on your wet hair. See what it does to your hair if it will keep the moisture in.

Skruttiz
February 1st, 2012, 01:19 AM
Ktani and Ladyshep, thank you both for your kind words and your answers!

Think I will try with some mineral oil.