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GoldberryHair
September 8th, 2011, 09:10 PM
Ok, so lately, I've been noticing, these like, kinda curly looking frizzy, flyaway things along the entire length of my hair, and they're uck, I don't know what it is, and I have no pictures, sorry..

My routine is pretty simple:

Shampoo the roots
Moisturizing conditioner on midshaft to ends
Finger comb (BTW which is better, finger combing, or wide-tooth)????
Leave-in conditioner
Air dry

I've been sleeping with my hair in a braid a lot (I just don't feel like undoing from working earlir) but I though sleeping in a braid was suppose to do less breakage?

I want to be smooth and silky! Help please! :(

spidermom
September 8th, 2011, 09:16 PM
I believe that most of what you're seeing are newer, shorter hairs. You grow out one or more new hairs per day, so you will always have those shorter hairs. There's not much weight on them, so they fluff up. We all have that. Next time you're watching TV or a movie, pay attention to anybody with long hair when they're back-lit. Everybody has sticky-ups. The rare times you don't see fluff, think lots of hair spray/styling products or a wig.

GoldberryHair
September 8th, 2011, 09:22 PM
I believe that most of what you're seeing are newer, shorter hairs. You grow out one or more new hairs per day, so you will always have those shorter hairs. There's not much weight on them, so they fluff up. We all have that. Next time you're watching TV or a movie, pay attention to anybody with long hair when they're back-lit. Everybody has sticky-ups. The rare times you don't see fluff, think lots of hair spray/styling products or a wig.

Thanks, I hope that's it, I try to take care of it as much as possible and seeing that is frusterating as heck!

Madora
September 8th, 2011, 10:25 PM
Ok, so lately, I've been noticing, these like, kinda curly looking frizzy, flyaway things along the entire length of my hair, and they're uck, I don't know what it is, and I have no pictures, sorry..

My routine is pretty simple:

Shampoo the roots
Moisturizing conditioner on midshaft to ends
Finger comb (BTW which is better, finger combing, or wide-tooth)????
Leave-in conditioner
Air dry

I've been sleeping with my hair in a braid a lot (I just don't feel like undoing from working earlir) but I though sleeping in a braid was suppose to do less breakage?

I want to be smooth and silky! Help please! :(

Finger combing is all right for a first general detangling, but you want to get rid of all tangles so using a wide tooth comb is more precise. Just be gentle when detangling (start from the ends and work up the strands to the scalp). Do it in small sections (so you don't miss any snarls) and when you feel a snarl/tangle, undo it with your fingers.

Sleeping with your hair in a braid is a good way to avoid damage, although I found that sleeping with it in a loosely braided bun on the top of my head was much better (tangle wise) than wearing it down in two braids (which I did for years).

If you want smooth, silky hair, then perhaps you might find bunning your hair on top of your head less likely to give you frizz.

If it IS frizz, then perhaps a tiny bit of coconut oil on it will help tame those frizzies.

luxepiggy
September 9th, 2011, 01:49 AM
Your description sounds a lot like the hair troubles I had last summer; my routine was quite similar to yours as well.

Shortly after finding LHC, I switched to CO washing, which resulted in a marked improvement in my hair's overall appearance. Nearly all of the unruly flyaway bits disappeared after just a couple of months, and they haven't returned since then. You can see the difference below - the left and right images were taken in August and December 2010, respectively (^(oo)^)v

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff33/shoppingpiglet/CObeforeandafter.jpg

Fingercombing has worked well for my hair; generally I experience very minimal breakage. And a satin pillowcase is a must-have for smooth & silky hair!

Oddly enough, I've found that sleeping with braided hair causes breakage and results in a less-than-satisfactory texture in the morning.

Eolan
September 9th, 2011, 01:53 AM
I have read somewhere on here that new growth have pointy ends, while breakage will give you sticky-out hairs with blunt ends. If I get worried I look at the ends of the hair. It's almost always new growth. :)

jojo
September 9th, 2011, 05:46 AM
My hair gets these when i braid it makes them worse. I prefer sleeping in a bun. But as the others have said it is normal, its just your newer hair at shorter lengths.

Angel_099
September 9th, 2011, 07:40 AM
Your description sounds a lot like the hair troubles I had last summer; my routine was quite similar to yours as well.

Shortly after finding LHC, I switched to CO washing, which resulted in a marked improvement in my hair's overall appearance. Nearly all of the unruly flyaway bits disappeared after just a couple of months, and they haven't returned since then. You can see the difference below - the left and right images were taken in August and December 2010, respectively (^(oo)^)v

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff33/shoppingpiglet/CObeforeandafter.jpg

Fingercombing has worked well for my hair; generally I experience very minimal breakage. And a satin pillowcase is a must-have for smooth & silky hair!

Oddly enough, I've found that sleeping with braided hair causes breakage and results in a less-than-satisfactory texture in the morning.

Your hair looks AMAZING!! :D So shiny and smooth--beautiful!

GoldberryHair
September 9th, 2011, 07:54 AM
Your description sounds a lot like the hair troubles I had last summer; my routine was quite similar to yours as well.

Shortly after finding LHC, I switched to CO washing, which resulted in a marked improvement in my hair's overall appearance. Nearly all of the unruly flyaway bits disappeared after just a couple of months, and they haven't returned since then. You can see the difference below - the left and right images were taken in August and December 2010, respectively (^(oo)^)v

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff33/shoppingpiglet/CObeforeandafter.jpg

Fingercombing has worked well for my hair; generally I experience very minimal breakage. And a satin pillowcase is a must-have for smooth & silky hair!

Oddly enough, I've found that sleeping with braided hair causes breakage and results in a less-than-satisfactory texture in the morning.


Ahhh! Your picture on the left is EXACTLY what I'm talking about!

I'm only semi-familiar with CO... could you describe exactly how you do it? Like which one you use? And do you still use conditioner after? And can I use leave-in?

Thank you!

luxepiggy
September 9th, 2011, 08:33 PM
Ahhh! Your picture on the left is EXACTLY what I'm talking about!

I'm only semi-familiar with CO... could you describe exactly how you do it? Like which one you use? And do you still use conditioner after? And can I use leave-in?

Thank you!

I thought it might be (^(oo)^)v

The basic premise of CO is that you use conditioner instead of shampoo to cleanse your hair. Don't worry that your hair won't get clean . . . pre-LHC, I was washing my hair daily with shampoo & conditioner, because otherwise it would get very oily. With CO washing, my hair actually get less oily, so now I only have to wash every 2-3 days.

Keep in mind that my CO routine is unusually 'cone-heavy - my hair is an unapologetic 'cone junkie (^(oo)^)v

For my "cleansing" conditioner, I use Pantene Color Preserve Shine (http://www.drugstore.com/pantene-pro-v-color-hair-solutions-color-preserve-conditioner-shine/qxp267648?fromsrch=pantene+preserve+shine) in the winter and L'Oreal Vive Pro Nutri Gloss Mirror Shine (for damaged hair) (http://www.drugstore.com/loreal-vive-pro-nutri-gloss-mirror-shine-conditioner-for-medium-to-long-hair-thats-damaged/qxp172527?catid=183410&fromsrch=L%27Oreal+Vive+Pro+Nutri+Gloss) in the summer. I dilute the Pantene 2:1 with distilled water since it's a bit thick. About 15 minutes before I get in the shower, I apply the conditioner very liberally to my scalp & roots - at least 3x more than you would normally use for conditioning purposes (hence the reason I use drugstore-brand conditioners for cleansing :p). Completely saturate the roots, working the conditioner into your scalp the same way you would lather up with shampoo in the shower. Piggy suggests gently massaging the scalp with the pads of the fingers (^(oo)^)v

When you get into the shower, make sure you rinse very thoroughly. Then when you're certain all the conditioner is gone, rinse once more.

Did I mention it's important to rinse? ;)

Next, I do a more conventional application of conditioner, using either Acca Kappa White Moss (http://www.drugstore.com/acca-kappa-white-moss-conditioner/qxp156644) or Shu Uemura Full Shimmer (http://www.shuuemuraartofhair-usa.com/haircare/collection.aspx?TopicCode=full_shimmer). This stays in while I wash the rest of me, then gets rinsed out with tepid water. I finish with a brief cold rinse.

I've never used leave-in, so I can't say for certain how it would mesh with a CO routine. However, I do use a combination thermal protectant/shine spray (Aquage Beyond Shine (http://www.amazon.com/Aquage-Beyond-Shine-Spray-Ounce/dp/B0015FSH86)), and I haven't had any problems.

Hope that helps! (^(oo)^)

GoldberryHair
September 10th, 2011, 07:38 AM
I thought it might be (^(oo)^)v

The basic premise of CO is that you use conditioner instead of shampoo to cleanse your hair. Don't worry that your hair won't get clean . . . pre-LHC, I was washing my hair daily with shampoo & conditioner, because otherwise it would get very oily. With CO washing, my hair actually get less oily, so now I only have to wash every 2-3 days.

Keep in mind that my CO routine is unusually 'cone-heavy - my hair is an unapologetic 'cone junkie (^(oo)^)v

For my "cleansing" conditioner, I use Pantene Color Preserve Shine (http://www.drugstore.com/pantene-pro-v-color-hair-solutions-color-preserve-conditioner-shine/qxp267648?fromsrch=pantene+preserve+shine) in the winter and L'Oreal Vive Pro Nutri Gloss Mirror Shine (for damaged hair) (http://www.drugstore.com/loreal-vive-pro-nutri-gloss-mirror-shine-conditioner-for-medium-to-long-hair-thats-damaged/qxp172527?catid=183410&fromsrch=L%27Oreal+Vive+Pro+Nutri+Gloss) in the summer. I dilute the Pantene 2:1 with distilled water since it's a bit thick. About 15 minutes before I get in the shower, I apply the conditioner very liberally to my scalp & roots - at least 3x more than you would normally use for conditioning purposes (hence the reason I use drugstore-brand conditioners for cleansing :p). Completely saturate the roots, working the conditioner into your scalp the same way you would lather up with shampoo in the shower. Piggy suggests gently massaging the scalp with the pads of the fingers (^(oo)^)v

When you get into the shower, make sure you rinse very thoroughly. Then when you're certain all the conditioner is gone, rinse once more.

Did I mention it's important to rinse? ;)

Next, I do a more conventional application of conditioner, using either Acca Kappa White Moss (http://www.drugstore.com/acca-kappa-white-moss-conditioner/qxp156644) or Shu Uemura Full Shimmer (http://www.shuuemuraartofhair-usa.com/haircare/collection.aspx?TopicCode=full_shimmer). This stays in while I wash the rest of me, then gets rinsed out with tepid water. I finish with a brief cold rinse.

I've never used leave-in, so I can't say for certain how it would mesh with a CO routine. However, I do use a combination thermal protectant/shine spray (Aquage Beyond Shine (http://www.amazon.com/Aquage-Beyond-Shine-Spray-Ounce/dp/B0015FSH86)), and I haven't had any problems.

Hope that helps! (^(oo)^)

I'll have to give this a try! Thanks for all your help :)