Batana Oil VS Ojon Restorative Treatment

[Catladyintown]

I want to say I love it. It is just pure Ojon oil without the perfume. Also it does not smell as strong like an ash tray but more like coffee coco. I really like the smell of Batana Oil over Ojon restorative treatment. I bought one last month and I can see and feel a differences in my hair. I like using on my ends and also on my scalp. It helps with my reoccurring dry scalp issue.HTH:D:D

[shellblue1]

Where did you purchase the batana oil?

[Catladyintown]

Hi Shellblue1 I bought the Batana oil from a ebay store called Utilahonduras. The S&H is a little slow it took around 3 weeks from Honduras to Arizona but I would surely recommend them. I really like the Batana oil it smells a little better than Ojon. Also a very good price, you get a lot more oil for the money. It is just pure Batana Oil. Here is the link to the store.HTH:D
http://www.ebay.com/sch/utilahonduras/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

[ktani]

It is just another name for palm kernel oil, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_palm and it can be bought in North America relatively inexpensively.

[ktani]

"The Miskito people in Honduras have traditionally always used batana oil, it is extracted from the nut of the American palm."
http://batanaoil.com/content/batana-oil-team-who-we-are

[Cassie 123]

I've been wondering about this for a while - it seems like it should be easy to buy American palm (Elaeis oleifera) kernel oil to make some Fauxjon, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere (until Catladyintown's post). The other stuff for sale all seems, when labeled at all, to be refined African palm (Elaeis guineensis) kernel oil. It might not make any difference, but then again, it might?

[Catladyintown]

Cassie123 I have tried a lot of different oils and butters and like this one best. I bought coconut oil okay, red palm oil left my hair very greasy and stains clothes easily and Ojon. Ojon smell is very strong and lingers in the hair. But Batan oil does not smell as strong as Ojon and the smell disappears in the hair in about 20 or so minutes. Also Batana oil does not stain your hands and it soaks up very easily into the hair with out the greasy feeling red palm oil left.HTH

[Cassie 123]

Well, consider me enabled! I ordered some shortly after your last post, it arrived earlier this week, and before the day was done my hair was slathered with it.

The results were good, but my hair likes many (though not all) oils. I'll really have to use it for awhile before I can review with any certainty. But, so far so good!

And yes - this stuff really is the main component of Ojon, no doubt about it. The Ojon company apparently did very little to improve the product, because the texture, appearance, and results are identical, at least to me. The pure Batana oil has the smell of smoke, pure and simple, like the smell of a campfire in your hair, with maybe a bit of something like the smell of coffee beans being roasted very dark. I used it as a pre-wash treatment, and, as you said, the smell goes away, to the point that after washing, I can just detect a faint whiff of it when I take my hair out of a bun or braid and hold it up to my nose. The Ojon company foolishly tried to improve the smell by adding cloying, resinous perfumes like benzoin, which, as a fragrance fixative, makes that smoky smell last in the hair until the next wash and beyond! Brand-name Ojon smells so bad it made my baby cry.

I also have and have used refined palm kernel oil, which is odorless and very hard even at warm room temperatures, while the batana more closely resembles a dark brown version of coconut oil.

So anyway, I'm going to give it a long-term trial to see how it works. I'll report back later!

[Catladyintown]

Cassie123 glad to enable.:D One of the reason I like it is the smell does not last long in the hair. Also I just use a little bit as a leave in.

[julierockhead]

I've been wondering about this for a while - it seems like it should be easy to buy American palm (Elaeis oleifera) kernel oil to make some Fauxjon, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere (until Catladyintown's post). The other stuff for sale all seems, when labeled at all, to be refined African palm (Elaeis guineensis) kernel oil. It might not make any difference, but then again, it might?

Fauxjon!:hifive:

[Lenigirly]

I just started using the Ojon Restorative treatment and at first I thought it wasn't that great but now i'm liking it.

My review of the Ojon Restorative treatment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JEPMBuIWLw&list=UUfijxW2Z3p27_7X_oo4OPIg&index=2&feature=plcp

[Helenae]

I LOVE Ojon as a brand (even the smokey smell, although it is way too strong and remains in my hair after washing)...

I've been repurchasing the restorative treatment for over a year, I'm so glad someone posted the main ingredient here, seeing as it's cheaper.

Can anyone tell me any significant differences they felt in their hair after using both?

[Elenna]

Gee CatLadyInTown, I like Ojon oil too! I mix it with other oils to stretch it out, since it is so expensive. And it is easy to wash out. This has made a world of difference in the condition of my fine hair. There are other tropical butters like babassu oil, palm oil, including cocoa butter, etc. My theory is that tropical butters are more moisturizing because of the hot climate they originated in. Coconut oil doesn't get along with my hair though. I have to go look for batana oil somewhere else, I couldn't find the store on eBay!

[Catladyintown]

Hi Elenna right now it is very hard to get pure Batana Oil because of the political problems in Honduras. I am glad I got my Batana oil while it was somewhat calm. Most companies are having a huge problem getting Batana Oil out of the country because of the unrest. But I have both and I still love Batana Oil best it does not leave a lingering smell in your hair like Ojon.

[Lenigirly]

I was finally able to get some pure batana oil. Well, at least I think it's pure because it's directly from Honduras. I think it smells exactly like a dirty ash tray. But I don't mind the smell because it leaves my hair sooooooooo soft, shiny and healthy looking. I loooooooove this stuff.

[gonzobird]

Just wondering/(bumping) if anyone is still liking batana oil...????

I just ordered some and I had a thought right after.

Since the process to extract the oil is used by heating the kernels via a fire....Read the lsat couple sentences of the following paragraph. (found online)

"The Miskito people in Honduras have traditionally always used batana oil – extracted from the nut of the American palm (Elaeis oleifera) – as a skin and hair treatment. It encourages thick, shiny hair and repairs damaged hair. Each tree produces from 10 to 20 very large bunches of fruit each year, from which 2 to 4 liters of raw oil can be extracted. The fruit is boiled and then pounded to remove the orange outer shell. The nuts are washed, sun-dried and cracked using a stone to release the kernel. These are cooked over a fire until the oil is extracted. Finally the hot oil is poured into glass bottles where it cools into a thick paste."


I am wondering if the oil is full of carcinogens???? Ugh. THAT would be a bummer.

I stopped drinking coffee, and found this stuff to replace coffee....http://guayaki.com... and found out its full of carcinogens because of the way the dry the tea and "smoke it". Lots of people who drink it get cancer. Throat and mouth especially

Got me thinking if Batana oil (smells smokey and is fire treated) is loaded too.

Thats probably what happens to any palm oil if you burn the hell out of it. Turns dark, burnt, stinky. And youre slathering it into your skin. :(

Any thoughts????

[Catladyintown]

Hi gonzobird I still use mine on and off. But I have been using Neelibhringadi hair oil. I like Batana oil but my problem is that it smells like smoke. And I have been trying to quit cigarettes for a long time now. But I still think it a fantastic oil. Were did you get yours from gonzobird if you don't mind me asking?;)

[gonzobird]

I'm such a weirdo. I don't smoke and I love the smell. I like the smell of skunk spray and neem oil too though.
I love it so far. Always liked the ojon but I'm a sucker for anything natural. I got mine off eBay 4 oz for 35$. The seller is naksapana.I just sniffed it right bow and got excited. Heh.

[Catladyintown]

Gonozobird nice to know you love the smell. You got a bargain on pure Batana oil for $35 for 4 oz. I hope your hair loves the oil too.;)

[gonzobird]

Catlady, are you still using yours? I washed my hair the day mine came so now I have to wait to use it as a overnight treatment but I put some on my ends and it seemed nice, like coconut oil, maybe slightly less greasy. It absorbed really fast.

What have you found to be the best way to use it? On dry or damp hair?

[Catladyintown]

Hi gonzobird as a leave in I use it right after my shower on damp hair just a tiny bit on the ends. As a pre wash I usually put a lot of Batana oil the night before I take a shower. I find that it really helps my ends, and it enhances the color of my black hair.;)

[earthybee]

Hi gonzobird as a leave in I use it right after my shower on damp hair just a tiny bit on the ends. As a pre wash I usually put a lot of Batana oil the night before I take a shower. I find that it really helps my ends, and it enhances the color of my black hair.;)

Thanks for posting this! I love your signature :inlove:

[Catladyintown]

Thank you Earthybee.:cheer: