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LoveMyLongHair
May 26th, 2011, 08:13 AM
Thinking my hair may need a protien treatment......any suggestions?

Thank you in advance....;)

Eolan
May 26th, 2011, 08:16 AM
I have used Cassia with good results, I think it's somewhat a protein treatment. :ponder: I also love the Panacea Hair Salve by Nightblooming on Etsy. The original blend has protein in it and my hair LOVES the stuff.

Also, have you looked through the Articles?

Good luck!

KittyLost
May 26th, 2011, 08:20 AM
Joico Reconstructor.

It's slightly expensive though, £12.99 on amazon for 150ml but it really saved my hair when I was bleaching.

A cheaper option is Mayonaise.

Anje
May 26th, 2011, 08:21 AM
Seems like the favorite ones are made by Aphogee and Joico, from what I've read. You can use a number of things, but for best results you want the peptide chains hydrolyzed to optimal size.

Kristamommyx3
May 26th, 2011, 08:30 AM
I was wondering the same thing, and also to the op, what would a protein treatment do for our hair? Is this a good thing for everyone or just some hair types?

Chetanlaiho
May 26th, 2011, 09:03 AM
The only protein treatments I ever did were combinations of avocado, egg, honey, olive oil, yoghurt and even a banana once xD

Gonna do a avocado + olive oil this afternoon actually, apparently a lot of people have used it with good results so far ^^

Anje
May 26th, 2011, 09:51 AM
I was wondering the same thing, and also to the op, what would a protein treatment do for our hair? Is this a good thing for everyone or just some hair types?
Some hair likes protein more than other hair, certainly. (Mine hates it, so nothing I write here is personal experience, merely observation.) It seems like chemically treated hair is most likely to benefit from protein, as treatments such as perms and bleaching tend to reduce the protein content of hair.

If your need for protein is desperate enough, hair gets weirdly stretchy and mushy, particularly when wet. I've seen it described as feeling like wet paper before. This site (http://blackbeautyblackhair86911.yuku.com/topic/511/t/Hair-Breakage-and-Shedding-101.html#.Td52yaVXq8I) describes very well how to determine whether you need a protein treatment or not.

This blog entry is also enlightening. (http://thenaturalhaven.blogspot.com/2009/06/size-matters-protein-conditioning-part.html)

theodora
May 26th, 2011, 10:09 AM
Some hair likes protein more than other hair, certainly. (Mine hates it, so nothing I write here is personal experience, merely observation.) It seems like chemically treated hair is most likely to benefit from protein, as treatments such as perms and bleaching tend to reduce the protein content of hair.

If your need for protein is desperate enough, hair gets weirdly stretchy and mushy, particularly when wet. I've seen it described as feeling like wet paper before. This site (http://blackbeautyblackhair86911.yuku.com/topic/511/t/Hair-Breakage-and-Shedding-101.html#.Td52yaVXq8I) describes very well how to determine whether you need a protein treatment or not.

This blog entry is also enlightening. (http://thenaturalhaven.blogspot.com/2009/06/size-matters-protein-conditioning-part.html)

Eeeek thank you so much for this! I think I just realised I am completely stupid! Thought my hair needed moisture, but I think it might actually need protein! I have done 2 SMTs in the past 5 days, the one from yesterday was left on the whole night. And although it has made my hair quite soft and shiny it has not resolved the following:
- super tangly hair
- extremely stretchy and weird when wet

Also, hello bleach damage! Thought I needed moisture but those two articles you kindly provided proved the opposite! Now I need to join LoveMyLongHair in the search for a protein treatment...

pepperminttea
May 26th, 2011, 10:10 AM
One tablespoon of low salt soy sauce in one cup of water. :) Use it as a rinse after shampooing, before conditioning.

Anje
May 26th, 2011, 10:25 AM
Eeeek thank you so much for this! I think I just realised I am completely stupid! Thought my hair needed moisture, but I think it might actually need protein!
Glad you found the problem!

LoveMyLongHair
May 26th, 2011, 10:50 AM
Eeeek thank you so much for this! I think I just realised I am completely stupid! Thought my hair needed moisture, but I think it might actually need protein! I have done 2 SMTs in the past 5 days, the one from yesterday was left on the whole night. And although it has made my hair quite soft and shiny it has not resolved the following:
- super tangly hair
- extremely stretchy and weird when wet

Also, hello bleach damage! Thought I needed moisture but those two articles you kindly provided proved the opposite! Now I need to join LoveMyLongHair in the search for a protein treatment...

Yay!! Company on my journey!! :flower:

LoveMyLongHair
May 26th, 2011, 10:51 AM
Some hair likes protein more than other hair, certainly. (Mine hates it, so nothing I write here is personal experience, merely observation.) It seems like chemically treated hair is most likely to benefit from protein, as treatments such as perms and bleaching tend to reduce the protein content of hair.

If your need for protein is desperate enough, hair gets weirdly stretchy and mushy, particularly when wet. I've seen it described as feeling like wet paper before. This site (http://blackbeautyblackhair86911.yuku.com/topic/511/t/Hair-Breakage-and-Shedding-101.html#.Td52yaVXq8I) describes very well how to determine whether you need a protein treatment or not.

This blog entry is also enlightening. (http://thenaturalhaven.blogspot.com/2009/06/size-matters-protein-conditioning-part.html)

Bookmarked both of these, Anje......you are the bomb, thank you so much!! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

BrightEyes7
May 26th, 2011, 11:11 AM
When my hair is in need of protein I just use a protein conditioner, rather than doing a 'treatment'. I have been using the Infusium 23 Moisture Conditioner with good results. But be careful not to use it every wash, it'll make your hair dry and brittle.

I've found best results alteranting each wash between the I-23 Conditioner and the Aussie 3 Minute Miracle Moist conditioner. Proteing and non-protein. It keeps my hair soft and shiny but also keeps that nasty snappy/stetchy feeling away! I obviously have chemically treated hair! :p

ETA: The Infusium 23 has cones I believe... if you would like a cone-free alternative I've had good results with the VO5 Moisture Milks conditioners. The moisturizing Passionfruit works nice!

theodora
May 26th, 2011, 11:12 AM
Yay!! Company on my journey!! :flower:
Ahah just realised you're a bleached blonde as well! Keep me posted on your findings, I'll keep you posted on mine ;)

LoveMyLongHair
May 26th, 2011, 12:04 PM
Ahah just realised you're a bleached blonde as well! Keep me posted on your findings, I'll keep you posted on mine ;)

Yes ma'am, I will. ;) I am researching online now. Keep me posted! :p

HintOfMint
May 26th, 2011, 12:50 PM
Aveeno and Mane 'n Tail are both pretty heavy in protein. You may not need a treatment, just a few rounds of the conditioner.

allmixedup88
May 26th, 2011, 01:04 PM
I like Aphogee 2 step it's about 3 bucks at sally beauty
& I love eggs lol

ewhalin
May 26th, 2011, 01:40 PM
Oh another vote for Aphogee 2 step, I LOVE it! I did read that it's really useful for extremely damaged hair. Though my hair isn't extremely damaged, I was using it once a month (every time before I colored my hair).

I also think I read that protein treatments are better for fine haired people rather than coarse haired people, I can't remember where I read it though... but it would makes sense since my hair is very fine and loves my monthly protein treatment. I noticed that my hair always behaved much better after the protein/deep conditioning treatment.

Someone else mentioned the Joico resconstructing treatment, which I like too. It's a quick three minutes (I try to leave it on longer), and there is a generic version that Sally's Beauty sells. I try to use the Joico reconstructing treatment once a week, but sometimes I forget. On a side note, I do have to say that the Joico deep conditioner is AWESOME as well! My hair feels so silky after I use it. :)

1953Diygal
May 26th, 2011, 01:45 PM
Nexxus Emergencee or Nexxus Aloxi Polymedic (http://www.amazon.com/Nexxus-Aloxxi-Polymedic-Emergency-Reconstructor/dp/B000THCTOO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1306439057&sr=8-2)(they're both basically the same thing.)

ange1ito
May 26th, 2011, 02:16 PM
When I bleached I used Redkens extreme range. I washed, blow dried, and straightened every day!!!!! My hair should have melted from the scalp, during that time I did find these products really great for damage:

Good as a leave in, or as deep treatment. Used this whenever I washed. This was super strengthening
http://www.redken.com/products/haircare/extreme/extreme-cat

Just the shampoo and conditioner that i used in conjunction with above.
http://www.redken.com/products/haircare/extreme/extreme-shampoo
http://www.redken.com/products/haircare/extreme/extreme-conditioner

The anti snap treatment which I used once every 2 weeks as deep treatment.
http://www.redken.com/products/haircare/extreme/extreme-anti-snap

To change up the treatments I also used the velevet whip and heavy cream
http://www.redken.com/products/haircare/all-soft

and Matrix stuff:
http://www.matrix.com/products/biolage/fortetherapie/

As you can tell I adore hair products, lol I have changed my habits since last year so I still have loads of old stock. They are a little pricey so be prepared.

I would recommend joining a Sally's if you get a chance as you may be able to get some salon brands much cheaper, especially when they change packaging or discontinue lines, especially when you can pick up something worth almost £15.00 for 84p!!!

Hope you hair enjoys the pampering :)

theodora
May 26th, 2011, 03:41 PM
Does anyone have cone-less protein treatment suggestions or even better, natural recipes? I tried an egg once and I'm pretty sure it helped. However, it felt really really gross putting it on (which is weird cause I'm not usually squeamish).

Delila
May 26th, 2011, 04:57 PM
I've been using cassia obovata for about once a month this year, finally settling into a routine of it. I really like the results. I rinse it off with conditioner, then use a moisturizing conditioner afterwards.

Before that, though, I'd been using a series of products, suggested on another forum years back.
Nexxus Emergencee, Paul Mitchell Super Charged Moisturizer, Roux Porosity Control conditioner, VO-5 hot oil. All but the last one on the hair for twenty minutes with heat, then rinsed. The hot oil treatment on the hair for one minute, then rinsed.

gogirlanime
May 26th, 2011, 05:37 PM
I really love the way collagen powder feels in my hair, it's a high-quality protein close to that of keratin. I mix 3 6 gram scoops in with about 12 oz of water, make as many batches as you need to cover your whole hair. I use Neocell's collagen powder.

christine1989
May 26th, 2011, 05:49 PM
Does anyone have cone-less protein treatment suggestions or even better, natural recipes? I tried an egg once and I'm pretty sure it helped. However, it felt really really gross putting it on (which is weird cause I'm not usually squeamish).

I tried the egg thing too a few years back and it seriously grossed me out too! As far as a cone free protein treatment, I like the Giovanni brand deep conditioner with protein. It smells good, has no cones and leaves hair moisturized. Usually my hair hated protein but it loves that one!

theodora
May 27th, 2011, 01:38 AM
I tried the egg thing too a few years back and it seriously grossed me out too! As far as a cone free protein treatment, I like the Giovanni brand deep conditioner with protein. It smells good, has no cones and leaves hair moisturized. Usually my hair hated protein but it loves that one!
Thanks for the info, I think one of my local shops sells it so I might check it out. Glad I'm not the only one who was grossed out by the raw egg ;)

theodora
May 29th, 2011, 03:44 PM
Thought I'd report on the latest try I did. I just did another egg treatment (even if it did gross me out last time, it's still the easiest thing to do aside from buying new product).
The treatment:
- 1 whole egg (a good medium)
- 1 tablespoon olive oil
- 1 teaspoon coconut oil
- 1 teaspoon honey
- some cinnamon (thought it might combat the smell of the egg)

Left for an hour, then CO washed with Garnier Fructis Triple Nutrition and rinsed with a weak ACV.
Don't know if it's because of the CO wash but it feels much less crunchy than the last time I tried an egg.
My hair, although still wet, seems less stretchy already, which seems to be a good sign.