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Aveyronnaise
February 12th, 2011, 01:22 AM
My area has very hard water and I am interested in doing a chelating shampoo treatment. However I haven't seen any of the brands that you girls are using on here.
Does anyone have the name of any european brands of this type of shampoo?

Masara
February 12th, 2011, 01:41 AM
I've got the same probelm as you. My water is very hard. Citric acid rinces help, but I still need to use a clarifying shampoo quite often. I know there is a difference between clafrifying and chelating shampoos (even if I can't remember what that difference is) but I use what I can and it seems to work.

I've never seen any shampoos sold in France as clarifying or chelating shampoos. I'm sure they must exist; French people must get product and mineral build up like the rest of us. I must be looking in the wrong places.

My favourite clarifying shampoo is the Boot's expert build up shampoo. As it's from Boot's, I'm afraid it won't be available in France (I stock up when I go to the UK) I've tried aloe rid from nexxus (bought on-line from HQhair) which I think is a more specifically chelating shampoo, but it was a lot more expensive without being any more effective on my hair.

On the other hand, for an easy to find in France shampoo, I find that the Ultra doux tilleuil shampoo is quite good at getting the minerals out of my hair if I leave it on for a while to let it work.

I'll be watching this thread to see if anyone else in France has any better suggestions.

Aveyronnaise
February 12th, 2011, 01:47 AM
Cool another person in France specifically.
I'll have to try the Ultra doux tilleuil shampoo, I know that stuff is everywhere. I have been using ACV rinses but they aren't really getting the minerals out , it's almost like I can feel them on there?
It's possible that I have some kind of buildup I have been using Melvita non sulfate Familial doux shampoo for several years. But like I said I do frequent vinegar rinses.

Melisande
February 12th, 2011, 02:16 AM
I'll be watching this thread. I'm looking for such a shampoo in Germany! I don't even know what chelate would be in German. But we do have very hard water.

What is the ingredient I have to watch out for? EDTA? What else?

I'm really waiting for answers! Dutch is okay, too, I can jump over the border and buy Dutch shampoos or order them online.

aisling
February 12th, 2011, 02:38 AM
Rinsing with ascorbic acid should help with metal buildup as far as I know. Our Finnish member Arctic wrote a lot about it in her blog while experimenting, but her blog is private. She got a lot of her info from a Finnish hair board. On old LHC there was a thread about miracle water as well:
http://archive.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=51184 This uses both citric and ascorbic acid but just ascorbic acid might be enough. I'm definitely not an expert but this might be something to look into, if interested.

I've tested rinsing with vitamin C diluted in water and it did do something, I felt a very metallic smell and got really soft hair from this.

This line, http://sim.fi/en-cxcorrector also have a shampoo that's mineral removing but alas, it is also Finnish and available to me but I'm not sure to how many others.

OK, checking out lookfantastic.com I found Paul Mitchell Shampoo Three (http://www.lookfantastic.com/haircare/shampoo/deep-cleansing/paul-mitchell-shampoo-three-300ml.html) that sounds like it could be chealting.

Nera
February 12th, 2011, 03:29 AM
In Holland it is exactly the same. No one has ever heard of clarifying or chelating!

naereid
February 12th, 2011, 04:18 AM
Chelating shampoos are for mineral buildup and clarifying shampoos are for product buildup, right? I don't know of any chelating shampoos. My clarifying shampoo is Balea Professional Pure+Fresh (http://www.balea.de/cgi-bin/balea_professional.pl?id=professional_pure_fresh) from dm-drogeriemarkt. Things like "frees hair from all residue" and "deep cleansing for every type of hair" are written on the bottle, so I guess it makes a good clarifier.

Joliebaby
February 12th, 2011, 05:25 AM
I found a chelating shampoo and balm in Finland, but for the life of me I can't remember the brand...

serious
February 12th, 2011, 05:43 AM
L'ANZA chelating shampoo (http://www.lanza.com/professional_service_ultimate_treatment)

probably sold in professional salons only

and also
L'ANZA Swim and Sun daily chelating shampoo (http://www.lanza-hair.co.uk/lanza-products/lanza-swim-sun.php)

obssesif
February 12th, 2011, 05:58 AM
Chelating shampoos are for mineral buildup and clarifying shampoos are for product buildup, right? I don't know of any chelating shampoos. My clarifying shampoo is Balea Professional Pure+Fresh (http://www.balea.de/cgi-bin/balea_professional.pl?id=professional_pure_fresh) from dm-drogeriemarkt. Things like "frees hair from all residue" and "deep cleansing for every type of hair" are written on the bottle, so I guess it makes a good clarifier.
Offsubject: this http://www.balea.de/cgi-bin/balea_hair.pl?id=color&k=&hp=1297515392 conditioner and mask are GENIOUS!
so you know:)

obssesif
February 12th, 2011, 06:04 AM
L'ANZA chelating shampoo (http://www.lanza.com/professional_service_ultimate_treatment)

probably sold in professional salons only

and also
L'ANZA Swim and Sun daily chelating shampoo (http://www.lanza-hair.co.uk/lanza-products/lanza-swim-sun.php)
I think I saw this in a pharmacy and it was way expensive for me...:(

aisling
February 12th, 2011, 06:08 AM
I found a chelating shampoo and balm in Finland, but for the life of me I can't remember the brand...

SIM CX corrector that I linked above perhaps? I think Cutrin also makes/ made one.

naereid
February 12th, 2011, 06:08 AM
Offsubject: this http://www.balea.de/cgi-bin/balea_hair.pl?id=color&k=&hp=1297515392 conditioner and mask are GENIOUS!
so you know:)
I thought about trying them but never got around to it! Thanks for the recommendation!

Melisande
February 12th, 2011, 07:45 AM
Naereid, thank you! I didn't think about that although I do use Balea sometimes. Great!!!!

naereid
February 12th, 2011, 08:30 AM
Naereid, thank you! I didn't think about that although I do use Balea sometimes. Great!!!!
Glad I could help! I thought it might be useful to someone since dm is in a lot of European countries. :)

Joliebaby
February 12th, 2011, 10:59 AM
SIM CX corrector that I linked above perhaps? I think Cutrin also makes/ made one.
Yes, I think it was SIM CX!

Kitteh
February 21st, 2011, 03:16 PM
My clarifying shampoo is Balea Professional Pure+Fresh (http://www.balea.de/cgi-bin/balea_professional.pl?id=professional_pure_fresh) from dm-drogeriemarkt.

LOVE IT! The first I tried and I am sticking to it :heart: I also love that it's dirt cheap, pun intended :D

Balea is great, I like dm's stuff in general but Balea really rocks!

pepperminttea
February 21st, 2011, 05:19 PM
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (which I might well be), but aren't chelating shampoos often labelled as "swimmer's shampoos" or similar? I've yet to see something labelled in the UK as a 'chelating' shampoo, but ones designed for frequent swimmers seem to do the same thing.

Kitteh
February 21st, 2011, 06:45 PM
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (which I might well be), but aren't chelating shampoos often labelled as "swimmer's shampoos" or similar?

Not from the UK, but my googling seems to support your thesis! Both prevent mineral build-up, so I guess they are very similar if not the same. :)

shikara
February 21st, 2011, 09:51 PM
You can use good old club soda to chelate. I used that, shampooed and moisturized well - worked great!

Dacia
March 29th, 2011, 03:03 PM
There is a new one from Garnier Fructis: http://www.pinkmelon.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/garnier_purer_glanz_teas1.jpg
http://www.garnier.fr/_fr/_fr/our_products/product-struct.aspx?tpcode=OUR_PRODUCTS^PRD_HAIRCARE^FRUCT IS^FRUCTIS_DISCOVER^FRUCTIS_PURE_BRILLANCE^FRUCTIS _PURE_BRILLANCE_RTN1&prdcode=P41227 (http://www.garnier.fr/_fr/_fr/our_products/product-struct.aspx?tpcode=OUR_PRODUCTS%5EPRD_HAIRCARE%5EF RUCTIS%5EFRUCTIS_DISCOVER%5EFRUCTIS_PURE_BRILLANCE %5EFRUCTIS_PURE_BRILLANCE_RTN1&prdcode=P41227)

INCI (http://www.codecheck.info/kosmetische_mittel/haarpflege/shampoo/ean_3600541073104/id_795108/Garnier_Fructis_Purer_Glanz.pro)

Tabitha
March 29th, 2011, 03:36 PM
Joico K-Pak chelating shampoo is available in the UK on eBay 300ml bottles, and the huge litre bottle from gorgeousshop (http://www.gorgeousshop.co.uk/shop/joico-15/joico-litres-1244/joico-k-pak-treatment-shampoo-clarifying-chelating-conditioning-5439.html) works out cheaper, but as it's an odd shape with no pump it's a pain to use/lift ... I decanted into a smaller more manageable bottle.

trinc
March 29th, 2011, 04:56 PM
I'm in Estonia, and I found something that is cheaper than Joico: Four reasons, deep cleanse shampoo. Here's a link to it, it's the one that's green http://miraculos.fi/en/four-reasons-shampoos-and-conditioners

it specifically says on the bottle, that it removes mineral buildup, and that it's for regions were water is hard.

I have used it and it seems to work. my hair only looks good after chelating :( otherwise it gets too flat and eventually look like greasy. chelating gives volume and softness.

ooo
March 29th, 2011, 05:54 PM
Fructis 'Purer Glanz' Anti-Kalk Effekt

spanish (http://tinyurl.com/4qxxbxj)and german (http://tinyurl.com/4qgjexd)

naereid
March 30th, 2011, 02:37 AM
Garnier! Fantastic! I hope we get that one where I live.

Firefox7275
March 30th, 2011, 03:33 AM
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (which I might well be), but aren't chelating shampoos often labelled as "swimmer's shampoos" or similar? I've yet to see something labelled in the UK as a 'chelating' shampoo, but ones designed for frequent swimmers seem to do the same thing.

I read this somewhere on LHC too. :)

Aveyronnaise
March 30th, 2011, 03:33 AM
Yay! I hope it works really well, it probably won't be a fortune here since it's garnier. This is so exciting, our water is 'calc city' , really hard. I can't wait to find this, does anybody know if it's in stores?

ooo
March 30th, 2011, 05:07 AM
maybe you should check your country homepage of garnier fructis? In Germany it came into the shops like a few months ago.

Aveyronnaise
March 30th, 2011, 05:20 AM
In that case I'm sure it is in the stores here then, it's garnier central. I never really look at the shampoo at the store because i get my shampoo from the 'bio cosmetic place' .
I think I'll make a trip up to the commercial zone this afternoon .

CastaDiva
March 30th, 2011, 06:07 AM
"Bling Hair Rehab Detox Shampoo" from Lee Stafford. I think this is both a clarifying and chelating shampoo.

Calanthe
March 30th, 2011, 07:25 AM
I'll be checking both the balea and fructis stuff. I live just 5 mins away from the next dm store :D.

Thanks for sharing.

Amelia
March 30th, 2011, 07:57 AM
Glad I could help! I thought it might be useful to someone since dm is in a lot of European countries. :)
You just helped another long hair ;) Thank you.
The funny thing is, I always over looked Balea as a brand. Next time I go to dm i'll have a closer look:D

trinc
March 30th, 2011, 11:08 AM
but how often is it ok to chelate? is it damaging for hair?

Aveyronnaise
March 30th, 2011, 11:17 AM
I have heard it can be very drying, I was planning on doing it about once a month. We have really hard water here so maybe more in the summer when we will go swimming more?

Calanthe
March 30th, 2011, 11:40 AM
Our water is between middle and hard, according to our water supplier (yes, I checked this. I'm that crazy :D). I'm also planning to use a chelating shampoo once a month, twice at most. Guess, I will have to test this.