Does Satin Ribbon make a difference?

[chotee]

Hi all, Lately i have been thinking of using satin ribbons for my braid. Does anybody here already use it. Do you see any difference in the split ends? There are some lovely shades like lavender or black which may look good with any dress plus it will keep my hair safe. I have silky hair and my braid will not stay without a tie. Any comments?

thanks, chotee

[LilyMunster]

That sounds very hair friendly. I am sure that before 'hair elastics' came along, hair was regularly secured w ribbon.

[nomadhome]

I agree that it sounds hair friendly. Certainly my hair does better without regular use of elastics. I wonder if the satin ribbon would slip out of your silky hair.

[Aisha25]

I need to try something like this. Elastics always pull out my hairs in braids,buns but with out them my braid always come out.

[Shandra]

To get it to stay in, you can either braid the ribbon into the last 2 or 3 inches or braid, or just stick the ribbon through the braid before tying it.

Sounds like a great idea.

[spidermom]

I use a strip of ribbon to wrap around and around the end of my braid, then I put an elastic over the ribbon. Otherwise the ribbon will slip right off. Sometimes it does even with the elastic.

[chotee]

Thanks ladies, i am off to search for some.....infact asked my DH to get some if he finds them. I certainly thought its a good idea as i always tie my hair with elastics and i always find split ends even though i am very careful with it during my washing and drying. And they look quite trendy too even in a bun!
Good idea spidermom, let me try both the methods and see which one suits better:smile: thanks
chotee

[Aisha25]

Thanks ladies, i am off to search for some.....infact asked my DH to get some if he finds them. I certainly thought its a good idea as i always tie my hair with elastics and i always find split ends even though i am very careful with it during my washing and drying. And they look quite trendy too even in a bun!
Good idea spidermom, let me try both the methods and see which one suits better:smile: thanks
chotee
When you try please let us know as I need this too. I don't want unnessesary hairfall.

[mira-chan]

I used satin or silk ribbons in my braids all through childhood. They are very hair friendly. My mother would usually start braiding them in half way down the braid and it would stay secure all day even keeping the braid from becoming to fuzzy. My hair was very healthy then.

Also leaving a tail of ribbons post tying that are about the same length as your braid tassle looks very nice and can make the tassle look thicker.

[Aisha25]

I used satin or silk ribbons in my braids all through childhood. They are very hair friendly. My mother would usually start braiding them in half way down the braid and it would stay secure all day even keeping the braid from becoming to fuzzy. My hair was very healthy then.

Also leaving a tail of ribbons post tying that are about the same length as your braid tassle looks very nice and can make the tassle look thicker.
So mira-chan,she would braid it in and then how she tie it and the end of braid??

[getoffmyskittle]

I used satin or silk ribbons in my braids all through childhood. They are very hair friendly. My mother would usually start braiding them in half way down the braid and it would stay secure all day even keeping the braid from becoming to fuzzy. My hair was very healthy then.

Also leaving a tail of ribbons post tying that are about the same length as your braid tassle looks very nice and can make the tassle look thicker.

Mira, could you tell us how she did that? It sounds really pretty! :face:

[mira-chan]

So mira-chan,she would braid it in and then how she tie it and the end of braid??

Exactly. The only differnce when I do it now is that when I was younger she tied it in a BIG bow. Now I just knot it and let the ends hang lose.


Mira, could you tell us how she did that? It sounds really pretty! :face:

You start braiding as normally. Then take a ribbon, holding it in the center of the length. Align center of ribbon to the braid when you grab the next strand for braiding, grab one of the ribbon ends with it. Repeat with the next strand. Braid as normal from then on until where you want to tie off. Keep all the hair together, grab one ribbon end and wrap it around the braid end a couple of times. Do the same with the other braid end in the opposite direction. Tie the ends together right at the center of this wrapped part. Then wither do a bow or another knot as desired.

Where you start braiding it in depends on ribbon length. The ribbon folded in half has to be a bit longer than the hair if held at starting point.

Note to self, I really need to make a tutorial on this.

[spidermom]

When I want to braid a ribbon into my hair, I start it at the top of the braid.

[Aisha25]

Exactly. The only differnce when I do it now is that when I was younger she tied it in a BIG bow. Now I just knot it and let the ends hang lose.



You start braiding as normally. Then take a ribbon, holding it in the center of the length. Align center of ribbon to the braid when you grab the next strand for braiding, grab one of the ribbon ends with it. Repeat with the next strand. Braid as normal from then on until where you want to tie off. Keep all the hair together, grab one ribbon end and wrap it around the braid end a couple of times. Do the same with the other braid end in the opposite direction. Tie the ends together right at the center of this wrapped part. Then wither do a bow or another knot as desired.

Where you start braiding it in depends on ribbon length. The ribbon folded in half has to be a bit longer than the hair if held at starting point.

Note to self, I really need to make a tutorial on this.
This sounds nice and looks like it'll stay i'm going to try this just need to buy ribbon now. Dont want big bow at end thanks for tip. I am thinking you should make tutorial that way whoever don't want to use scrunchy can look to your instructions.:grin:

[chotee]

Exactly. The only differnce when I do it now is that when I was younger she tied it in a BIG bow. Now I just knot it and let the ends hang lose.



You start braiding as normally. Then take a ribbon, holding it in the center of the length. Align center of ribbon to the braid when you grab the next strand for braiding, grab one of the ribbon ends with it. Repeat with the next strand. Braid as normal from then on until where you want to tie off. Keep all the hair together, grab one ribbon end and wrap it around the braid end a couple of times. Do the same with the other braid end in the opposite direction. Tie the ends together right at the center of this wrapped part. Then wither do a bow or another knot as desired.

Where you start braiding it in depends on ribbon length. The ribbon folded in half has to be a bit longer than the hair if held at starting point.

Note to self, I really need to make a tutorial on this.



thanks mirachan, thats a good tutorial :smile: do you think any ribbon will keep the hair safe? i am specifically eyeing on the satin ones. I am not sure where to look out for them but i think it will be top on my list. After i get a few, i truly want to stop using scrunchies as i feel most of them have bad elastics inside and i am such a scrunchieholic(unable to be without one on my hair:smile:)These days i am concentrating a lot at the ends, i am moisturising it everyday and did split ends twice....hope it helps with the tapering...chotee

[mira-chan]

thanks mirachan, thats a good tutorial :smile: do you think any ribbon will keep the hair safe? i am specifically eyeing on the satin ones. I am not sure where to look out for them but i think it will be top on my list. After i get a few, i truly want to stop using scrunchies as i feel most of them have bad elastics inside and i am such a scrunchieholic(unable to be without one on my hair:smile:)These days i am concentrating a lot at the ends, i am moisturising it everyday and did split ends twice....hope it helps with the tapering...chotee

Any ribbon works to hold. While the rougher feeling ones would have more grip they are not as hair friendly as the smooth ones. Satin should work wonderfully. I've also, around the house, used strips of left over fabric after sewing projects. Mostly silk ones.

[TheStorm]

I use ribbons in my hair all the time (I am in fact wearing one now, ponytail not braid though), they seem hair friendly enough to me, all you have to watch out for is tying strands of hair into the knot or bow.
As for using them in braids, if you just tie it in place of an elastic it will most likely slip off. However what I do sometimes if I don't have an elastic to hand is to braid the ribbon into the length of the hair braid and bow it at the bottom.

[chotee]

Any ribbon works to hold. While the rougher feeling ones would have more grip they are not as hair friendly as the smooth ones. Satin should work wonderfully. I've also, around the house, used strips of left over fabric after sewing projects. Mostly silk ones.

Thanks Mirachan, maybe till i get hold of the pure-satin variety, i am going to start with the normal ones.

chotee

[SweetPea88]

Oh, this is great! Thanks Mira-Chan for the explanation, I'll have to try and do this.

ETA: Oh, oh! Can we please have pictures in the tutorial? No pressure or anything! :)

[1nuitblanche]

Just another thought is to secure your hair with thread at the end. My grandma did this for me when I was younger.

[Haldir]

Thanks for sharing, mira-chan! I've never tried weaving ribbons into my hair before, maybe I should try it out.

My mother used to braid my hair everyday when I was really small, and she tied them off with all sorts of big and pretty ribbons. I don't remember how she tied them off though, but they stayed!
:cheese:

[chotee]

Just another thought is to secure your hair with thread at the end. My grandma did this for me when I was younger.

Hey, i never thought of thread :smile:....good idea but i doubt it will stay on my hair....what kind of thread btw...the normal sewing variety or thicker cottonish ones? Thanks

[mira-chan]

Oh, this is great! Thanks Mira-Chan for the explanation, I'll have to try and do this.

ETA: Oh, oh! Can we please have pictures in the tutorial? No pressure or anything! :)

You're welcome. ^_^

The tutorial is in the works. I have most things ready I just need to get a couple more pictures to replace ones that failed miserably.

[Gladtobemom]

My Nanny Pauline always used brown silk satin ribbon to tie her braids or to tie sections of hair for bunning.
She bought rolls of brown ribbon that was very close to her haircolor. She liked 1/2" ribbon because it would stay tied very well. I still have a couple of rolls of her ribbon.

I find silk ribbon to be superior because:
stays tied
is very strong
is easy to untie (I tie mine in a bow)
is easy
Is easy to tuck and hide

For braid tassels I use less than a ft. long ribbon. For holding up Heidi braids, I need over 3 ft. (I put it throuhg the eye of a bodkin and just sort of sew the braids down, this makes them stay really well).

I do the same thing. I buy ribbon from here:
http://www.jkmribbon.com/wholesale-silk-ribbon.htm
$22 for 40 yd. ($0.55/yd) of hand dyed 7/16" (Fawn is great for Blondes, French Roast for Brunettes, Raven for Black Hair, Rusty Bucket is the color DD uses (she's a redhead), moon dust is nice for gray hair, Tuscany looks good in redheaded hair too, Wild Oats is fab in my sister's yellow blond hair. I happen to be very fond of the Arora Borealis too, it's so pretty. Last year, after we quit doing group orders. I got together with a few of my friends and we ordered a bunch of rolls to try, we each got a fifth of a roll (13.5 ft.) of each color we bought. Some people traded (like I traded my sis the yellow and fawn for the two browns) This is great hair ribbon, It is bias cut and holds as well as elastic with no damage. This is not shiny ribbon and it works great.

$33.60 for 30 yd. ($1.60/yd) (sppl of silk satin (It's a little thicker, but really nice also. I like it for baseline ties and sewing braids to my head for heidi braids or coronet styles). It's a little shiny. It doesn't stay tied quite as well and it can slip easier.


There are some places like
http://store.tenderheaded.com/hasihari.html

Where you can buy silk hair ribbons for way more money per yard, with less choice. But you don't have to spend as much.
I find these identical to the hand dyed ones on JKM ribbon. And they are way more expensive. ($1.95/yd.), As far as I can tell, this is identical to the JKM ribbon. I have 2 of them.

On Ebay, you can buy silk ribbon (end of rolls usually) really cheaply.
http://stores.ebay.com/SILK-RIBBON-AND-MORE
I've ordered 1/2" silk ribbon from this place.
I asked her for an assortment of browns, rusts, fawns, black, just haircolored ribbon, with no pieces less than 2 feet. She sold me a huge bag really cheap. I divided it up and gave it as stocking stuffers to friends with long hair and teenagers with long hair (DD friends). Many of them told me later that they'd never tried ribbons like this. It was fun for them and some wanted to order more.

Note: Does anyone think I should sell some on the swap site. I have loads of pieces that would be perfect to try before investing in a whole order. That way people could try it for just a couple of bucks.

[Islandgrrl]

Note: Does anyone think I should sell some on the swap site. I have loads of pieces that would be perfect to try before investing in a whole order. That way people could try it for just a couple of bucks.

Yes!! Yes!! Yes!!!!! (jumping up and down, waving arms in air)

[mira-chan]

Tutorial written and submitted with pictures and video. ^_^ It will be up as soon as it is approved.

[SweetPea88]

Tutorial written and submitted with pictures and video. ^_^ It will be up as soon as it is approved.

Woo hoo! :cheese: Everyone wants cheese with the video, right?

[chotee]

My Nanny Pauline always used brown silk satin ribbon to tie her braids or to tie sections of hair for bunning.
She bought rolls of brown ribbon that was very close to her haircolor. She liked 1/2" ribbon because it would stay tied very well. I still have a couple of rolls of her ribbon.

I find silk ribbon to be superior because:
stays tied
is very strong
is easy to untie (I tie mine in a bow)
is easy
Is easy to tuck and hide

For braid tassels I use less than a ft. long ribbon. For holding up Heidi braids, I need over 3 ft. (I put it throuhg the eye of a bodkin and just sort of sew the braids down, this makes them stay really well).

I do the same thing. I buy ribbon from here:
http://www.jkmribbon.com/wholesale-silk-ribbon.htm
$22 for 40 yd. ($0.55/yd) of hand dyed 7/16" (Fawn is great for Blondes, French Roast for Brunettes, Raven for Black Hair, Rusty Bucket is the color DD uses (she's a redhead), moon dust is nice for gray hair, Tuscany looks good in redheaded hair too, Wild Oats is fab in my sister's yellow blond hair. I happen to be very fond of the Arora Borealis too, it's so pretty. Last year, after we quit doing group orders. I got together with a few of my friends and we ordered a bunch of rolls to try, we each got a fifth of a roll (13.5 ft.) of each color we bought. Some people traded (like I traded my sis the yellow and fawn for the two browns) This is great hair ribbon, It is bias cut and holds as well as elastic with no damage. This is not shiny ribbon and it works great.

$33.60 for 30 yd. ($1.60/yd) (sppl of silk satin (It's a little thicker, but really nice also. I like it for baseline ties and sewing braids to my head for heidi braids or coronet styles). It's a little shiny. It doesn't stay tied quite as well and it can slip easier.


There are some places like
http://store.tenderheaded.com/hasihari.html

Where you can buy silk hair ribbons for way more money per yard, with less choice. But you don't have to spend as much.
I find these identical to the hand dyed ones on JKM ribbon. And they are way more expensive. ($1.95/yd.), As far as I can tell, this is identical to the JKM ribbon. I have 2 of them.

On Ebay, you can buy silk ribbon (end of rolls usually) really cheaply.
http://stores.ebay.com/SILK-RIBBON-AND-MORE
I've ordered 1/2" silk ribbon from this place.
I asked her for an assortment of browns, rusts, fawns, black, just haircolored ribbon, with no pieces less than 2 feet. She sold me a huge bag really cheap. I divided it up and gave it as stocking stuffers to friends with long hair and teenagers with long hair (DD friends). Many of them told me later that they'd never tried ribbons like this. It was fun for them and some wanted to order more.

Note: Does anyone think I should sell some on the swap site. I have loads of pieces that would be perfect to try before investing in a whole order. That way people could try it for just a couple of bucks.

Wow! thanks for the info. Thats really nice of u :smile:

You seem to know so much about it.....were you always a ribbon-person? If not did you see any difference after you started using them.

chotee

[mira-chan]

Thank you Gladtobemom for posting those links. I ordered some silk ribbons from the ebay store.

The article is up and can be seen here. (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=60)

[SweetPea88]

The article is really helpful Mira-Chan. I just tried doing it quickly with a piece of fabric and it's so easy to do and holds really well. Thanks, again! :flower:

[chotee]

Thank you Gladtobemom for posting those links. I ordered some silk ribbons from the ebay store.

The article is up and can be seen here. (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=60)

Thanks, that is lovely!

chotee

[Gladtobemom]

Wow! thanks for the info. Thats really nice of u :smile:

You seem to know so much about it.....were you always a ribbon-person? If not did you see any difference after you started using them.

chotee

Nanny was, but I "rebelled."

I've pretty much always had long hair, it's very wavy curly. Braiding or ponytailing has always been de rigeur for me.

So, here goes. These are things I've tried and been fond of. The underlined ones are very easily obtained and I use almost daily.


Teeny dentist's silicone rubber bands. Like they use on braces. The silicone ones are really nice. You pretty much need a source of them though--I had a friend who's mom was an orthodontist. There's even a tool to open them and it places them over your braid tassel very nicely. They never pull hairs and are quite secure. Very gadgety. I was stuck on them for years, don't use them anymore.

Covered nonmetal elastics (thick, thin, etc.), I can't make them come out neatly for braids. And no mater what, they do break hairs. Not my favorite and a last resort.

Blax snagless hair ties (silicone elastics), I love the clear ones. I use them all the time. For ponytails, for holding the outside of a sockbun, for braids (though they of course don't strengthen or look so pretty) They come in black, brown, and clear, I buy both long and short. They don't break hairs or pull them out.

Bunjii Hair ties (my holy grail of hair ties) I have my stash. I have long ones, short ones, The shorter Bunjii ties are the absolute best braid ties ever. they never break a hair, hold securely, and they look totally cool. I really wish the guy would sell that patent to somebody who'd make them.
Nothing , but nothin holds a thick hair ponytail better.

Hair baubles or cubes, I still wear them. I buy the little ones with the cubes or flowers. I love them and they are so easy. I have some "grownup" ones that are chanel or jewelryish. Frankly, I love the little gaudy ones to wear in the summer time on braids.

Silk cording, I used to use lots, don't use it much anymore, it's so hard to keep tied. You have to learn a special rolling surgeon's knot.

Little claw clips, I still use them for temporary holding braids Fabulous for when you need extra fingers. I very often hold a braid with one while I pick up a ribbon or elastic.

Silk Ribbon, What I use most of the time. Thin silk ribbon that's bias is just a little stretchy. You can braid it in or just use it as a tie. It holds really well. If braided in, it helps strengthen the braid. If twisted in a rope braid, it can be incredibly pretty too.

I have some silk that's my haircolor with little sparkles of gold. I twist it into a rope braid and make a bun. People stop me and ask me what kind of glitter I use, and what hairspray to get that effect.

For Heidi braids, I love to braid it in right from the beginning. Then I tie it off with a square knot. When I put the braid across my head, I poke tie a cute bow at the base of the braid on the other side. This is a super cute look on little girls. And not bad on me too. My family does lots of folk dancing, that's how I wear my hair for it.

For regular braiding (just to hang down) I usually use a haircolor piece and braid it in when the braid starts to taper. That helps hold in the hairs that want to stick out and strengthen the braid.

Braiding for use in a bun, I just tie the end with a short piece.

I love my hair with gold or red ribbon in my hair. It really makes the braid more complicated.

Panty Hose, I buy children's knee highs and cut short tubes, roll them up and use them as elastics. This is what I use these days over a sock bun. Totally hair friendly. There are some hosiery ties, but they aren't long enough for around my sock bun. baby tights work well too, especially from a used clothing store where if they have snags, they sell for 10 cents.

HTH

[SweetPea88]

Wow, Gladtobemom that's some great info to have. Thanks! :flower:

[chotee]

Nanny was, but I "rebelled."

I've pretty much always had long hair, it's very wavy curly. Braiding or ponytailing has always been de rigeur for me.

So, here goes. These are things I've tried and been fond of. The underlined ones are very easily obtained and I use almost daily.


Teeny dentist's silicone rubber bands. Like they use on braces. The silicone ones are really nice. You pretty much need a source of them though--I had a friend who's mom was an orthodontist. There's even a tool to open them and it places them over your braid tassel very nicely. They never pull hairs and are quite secure. Very gadgety. I was stuck on them for years, don't use them anymore.

Covered nonmetal elastics (thick, thin, etc.), I can't make them come out neatly for braids. And no mater what, they do break hairs. Not my favorite and a last resort.

Blax snagless hair ties (silicone elastics), I love the clear ones. I use them all the time. For ponytails, for holding the outside of a sockbun, for braids (though they of course don't strengthen or look so pretty) They come in black, brown, and clear, I buy both long and short. They don't break hairs or pull them out.

Bunjii Hair ties (my holy grail of hair ties) I have my stash. I have long ones, short ones, The shorter Bunjii ties are the absolute best braid ties ever. they never break a hair, hold securely, and they look totally cool. I really wish the guy would sell that patent to somebody who'd make them.
Nothing , but nothin holds a thick hair ponytail better.

Hair baubles or cubes, I still wear them. I buy the little ones with the cubes or flowers. I love them and they are so easy. I have some "grownup" ones that are chanel or jewelryish. Frankly, I love the little gaudy ones to wear in the summer time on braids.

Silk cording, I used to use lots, don't use it much anymore, it's so hard to keep tied. You have to learn a special rolling surgeon's knot.

Little claw clips, I still use them for temporary holding braids Fabulous for when you need extra fingers. I very often hold a braid with one while I pick up a ribbon or elastic.

Silk Ribbon, What I use most of the time. Thin silk ribbon that's bias is just a little stretchy. You can braid it in or just use it as a tie. It holds really well. If braided in, it helps strengthen the braid. If twisted in a rope braid, it can be incredibly pretty too.

I have some silk that's my haircolor with little sparkles of gold. I twist it into a rope braid and make a bun. People stop me and ask me what kind of glitter I use, and what hairspray to get that effect.

For Heidi braids, I love to braid it in right from the beginning. Then I tie it off with a square knot. When I put the braid across my head, I poke tie a cute bow at the base of the braid on the other side. This is a super cute look on little girls. And not bad on me too. My family does lots of folk dancing, that's how I wear my hair for it.

For regular braiding (just to hang down) I usually use a haircolor piece and braid it in when the braid starts to taper. That helps hold in the hairs that want to stick out and strengthen the braid.

Braiding for use in a bun, I just tie the end with a short piece.

I love my hair with gold or red ribbon in my hair. It really makes the braid more complicated.

Panty Hose, I buy children's knee highs and cut short tubes, roll them up and use them as elastics. This is what I use these days over a sock bun. Totally hair friendly. There are some hosiery ties, but they aren't long enough for around my sock bun. baby tights work well too, especially from a used clothing store where if they have snags, they sell for 10 cents.

HTH


Wow again! You really have been experimenting a lot i should say! Of this lot i use only the small claws and they stay with my hair too. The dental ones really caught my eyes and ofcourse the satin ribbons on the top of my list. thanks again, gladtobemom
:smile: chotee