View Full Version : Went for a haircut to trim off some damage, so wtf?
MissCharizard
December 16th, 2010, 11:14 PM
I told the young lady that I was growing my hair out. I told her I was growing my layers out as well. I wanted a very short trim to even up the ends. All was going well. She cut my hair and blow dried it and it looked great!
I was so pleased. Then she said she was going to dry cut it. She then pulls out THINNING SHEARS and takes a big snip. My stomach DROPS. What??? It was already too late. WHAT IS WRONG WITH HAIR DRESSERS?? My ends now feel SO MUCH thinner than they did before and I absolutely detest it! I am so mad it's insane!! She just undid a year of work in one swoop by cutting out big chunks of my hair.
Why would I EVER want my hair to look thinner? Why is there such madness in this world? I think I'm going to cry.
Love23101
December 16th, 2010, 11:17 PM
I would definitely bring this up to the manager. You should be compensated with money... even though what they took from you has much more worth that money... But, other than that you can complain.... If they are a 'chain' hair salon like 'great clips', find the CEO and complain to them.
I've done this before. I told the lady a 1/2 inch TRIM... She took off 4-5 inches! Oh boy... I complained complained complained!!!! They got an ear full, and I got 100 dollars in return. (I guess to keep me from suing them.)
Becky Safari
December 16th, 2010, 11:21 PM
I totally sympathize with your situation. Whenever I had my hair trimmed I would freeze up and not say STOP even though my stomach was turning at what they would do to my hair. And every time I left I would cry, so I definitely understand how you feel.
I am also currently dealing with "thinned out" ends, as a result of a salon, and all that I can say is that it will grow out in time. The choice now is to either do a chop to get a blunt hemline, or grow and do microtrims. I myself am doing the latter, as I can't emotionally handle chopping all the thinned ends at once. Hope you feel better
Princess89
December 16th, 2010, 11:27 PM
"big hugs!" MissCharizard don't cry! If 2011 is anything like this year before you know it it will all have grown back. :flowers:
I know it sucks and after all the hard work you must have put in, hairdressers are crazy! she didn't even give you a chance to say NO! :hatchet:
Is your hair long enough to possibly S&D while you grow out the haircut or maybe give yourself a small trim?
Keep smiling though, it will all grow back, and DON'T GO BACK TO THAT HAIRDRESSER!
MissCharizard
December 16th, 2010, 11:29 PM
Thank you all. I'll try to feel better but it's really hard right now. :( I do not have the heart to cut it all off to a blunt hemline at this point but it's like I was doing the micro-trim thing before and I haven't gotten a haircut it a really long time, more than half a year atleast, and when I do go every hair dresser sabotages me!
MissCharizard
December 16th, 2010, 11:36 PM
You can sue over haircuts? I had no idea! I actually just froze up and didn't say anything like Becky. She didn't give me time to say no because she didn't ask and I didn't realize until I saw a big chunk of hair on the floor.
Dragon
December 16th, 2010, 11:39 PM
I am very sorry about what happened and I can understand. I don’t go to hairdressers any more as I don’t trust them. I think you should complain to the manager about it. :grouphug:
Juneii
December 16th, 2010, 11:40 PM
I think they thin your hair because it is easier to style. I know some members on here benefit from thinning shears because their hair is too thick and heavy. However! That does not excuse what that woman did, she should have asked before she did that since you did not mention anything at all about wanting your hair to be thinner! >:[
DecafJane
December 16th, 2010, 11:45 PM
I can see how that would be frustrating. I don't think hairdressers see thinning shears as putting layers into hair - it is more a way of making thick ends more manageable and sit better.
Good luck and I hope it grows back quickly.
Becky Safari
December 17th, 2010, 02:18 AM
Haha an ironic situation just happened. My mother commented how wonderful and healthy my hair is looking "except for how thin your ends are" and suggested I just bite the bullet and get rid of them. It's only an inch or two, so now I think I'm just cutting the weaklings off.
Drynwhyl
December 17th, 2010, 02:29 AM
I'm sorry, I know how bad it feels. Please either try to trim it yourself, or find a friend who understands what you want and knows what they're doing. I cut hair for lots of my friends because they lost all trust towards hairdressers. I just don't understand why most of them keep going against their customer's wishes. :S
Arya
December 17th, 2010, 02:55 AM
I think they do it because blunt ends aren't currently in style. On some people, blunt ends can look a little unsophisticated, IMHO, but it's your hair, you should be able to do what you want.
I had my hair thinned by a friend of mine who is a very (VERY) popular hair dresser. I couldn't believe how much he thinned it. He mostly works with East Asian hair, and everyone loves him, but he thinned it MUCH out more than I wanted. My hair is already on the thin side, it doesn't need thinning!!
Only thing you can do is go to a hair-dresser be VERY EXPRESS in what you want. I want one inch. Can you show me one inch on my hair without cutting it? No, less. yes, that much. And I want it blunt, U shaped. Can you show me the scissors you'll be using? No shears. Just scissors. BLUNT HEM. That is it. NO LAYERS. BLUNT HEM U SHAPE. Show me how much again. NO, LESS.
and then watch them like a hawk. My problem is I never know what I want, and I have trouble making my hair do things, so I'm always at sort of a loss. Rarely do I like the result. My hair is this long because of neglect caused by my distrust for hairdressers.
leslissocool
December 17th, 2010, 03:05 AM
*BIG hug*
I am so sorry this happened to you. I tell pretty much everyone I know not to let a hairdresser cut their hair if you are growing it out unless her or his hair is at least 6 inches longer than yours. I have a friend who is also a LHCer who is the only one allowed near my hair, she is an amazing stylist and her hair is on hip now.
I wish you the fastest growth possible! You should really go back and complaint, at least get your money back.
jesis
December 17th, 2010, 04:17 AM
I'm going to try using the term "dusting" next time I go into my hair stylist. I'm sick of her taking off more than I want. :rolleyes: if it doesn't work I might find someone else!
Vorvolaka
December 17th, 2010, 04:45 AM
Ugh, I empathise. I had a hairdresser disaster in October where she basically cut too much off, despite me being very specific. I'm not prone to splits, so I'm now just going to let it do its own thing for a while.
Nae
December 17th, 2010, 04:59 AM
If you want to cut the hairdresser completely out......I know, bad pun. There is always Feye's self trim. Here is a link. http://community.livejournal.com/feyeselftrim
Lozzie
December 17th, 2010, 06:59 AM
I totally understand, i have fine hair and my last hair cut was just before my son was born back in May. I asked for a trim, even showing the guy with my fingers how much i wanted off. He cut it shorter that bsl and it was almost waist length!! I am now almost back to waist length thankfully. It is really not funny. The hairdressers i have been to always seem to want to give me layers which on my fine hair, just looks thinner. What is 'trendy' always seems to take priority over what suits a person or what they ask for! Anyway, i have finally learnt my lesson and either trim myself or get my Mum to do it!!
david
December 17th, 2010, 07:56 AM
I told the young lady that I was growing my hair out. I told her I was growing my layers out as well. I wanted a very short trim to even up the ends. All was going well. She cut my hair and blow dried it and it looked great!
I was so pleased. Then she said she was going to dry cut it. She then pulls out THINNING SHEARS and takes a big snip.
This is exactly what happened to me during my last trim in the summer after I asked for a blunt cut... I was raging. I have been growing it out since and I plan to get it back to a blunt cut or at least start to get it back to a blunt cut after Christmas.
LadyG
December 17th, 2010, 08:02 AM
After reading your story, and others similar, I have decided that when I need to go in for a trim, I am taking a friend with me. Someone who's not afraid to say "back away with those scissors!
I am sorry that she cut your hair in a way that didn't follow what you had requested.
LaurelSpring
December 17th, 2010, 08:23 AM
Thank you all. I'll try to feel better but it's really hard right now. :( I do not have the heart to cut it all off to a blunt hemline at this point but it's like I was doing the micro-trim thing before and I haven't gotten a haircut it a really long time, more than half a year atleast, and when I do go every hair dresser sabotages me!
I'm so sorry that this happened to you. :grouphug:
This is why I quit going to hairdressers. I now only microtrim myself using my own version of Feye's method. I know that there are good hairdressers out there (I use to be one!) but once something this traumatic happens its really hard to go back and trust anyone. I actually had a hairdresser do the same thing to me. I had been discussing Fairytale ends with her and she took it up herself to "fairytale" them herself with the scissors. :justy: I am still dealing with that disaster 2 years later. So maybe it will help to think of them as Fairytale ends?? Then just microtrim yourself until the damage is undone. I wouldnt cut to blunt. I would just wear updos and microtrim. Cutting back would be too traumatic for me.
spidermom
December 17th, 2010, 08:27 AM
Oh my goodness; I'm sorry that happened to you. I hope you are practicing how to say "No!" and "Stop!" I've become really good at it, but in the past I wasn't, so I totally understand.
Here's wishing you an "OMG; I can't believe it" awesome growth spurt :magic:
monsterna
December 17th, 2010, 08:31 AM
I am really sorry about that. That's awful. I would also complain. I'm really lucky to have found a hairdresser I trust who has always made my hair look good and is also growing her's out and has some of the same issues I do. I moved farther away from her, but still make the 30 minute drive to go see her. I hope if you do trust hairdressers again, that you find a "forever" one that you can trust!
I agree with Arya's method of getting the message across. Also just tell them that you don't care about what style is in and you don't care how boring what you want may seem. I know your next visit isn't on your mind right now. We all feel your pain with horrible hair salon incidents, though!:grouphug:
Coan-Teen
December 17th, 2010, 09:45 AM
I know there are wonderful hairdressers out their who care about what their clients want and offer good advice but in my experience it is very hard to find them. I have had hair dressers do similar things to me in the past. One cut all my hair off when I was 9, literally, my hair was at least at waist, probably closer to tailbone, and she cut it off into a boy cut.
My mother had asked for a trim to clean up the ends. And then without warning she takes the scissors and makes a huge cut right at the back of my neck. And then argues that it's what's cute and why is my mother so angry. Of course the damage was already done so I had to get the rest cut off to match. It was very traumatic and led to further trauma from my classmates calling me a boy. Not fun.
My point is that I can completely sympathize and I'm very sorry this happened to you. I hope you find someone you can trust in the future and I absolutely second making a fuss. They cannot just do whatever they want to your hair. :hugs: Try a long haired stylist if you can. They tend to be more sympathetic.
NebraskaChick84
December 17th, 2010, 09:59 AM
I am so sorry you had a horrible experience. hugs!
Tia2010
December 17th, 2010, 10:13 AM
I'm sorry that happened to you :grouphug: I had the same thing happen and I'm still growing out that mess. I was in shock! Then came disbelief , sadness then anger... lot's of anger :mad:. Now I'm more prepared and my stylist knows to only do as I say or we will have a problem. I know it's hard to create a fuss , especially if it's not your nature...but you have to stand up for what you want. No one has the right to just do what they want with your hair.
mellie89
December 17th, 2010, 12:00 PM
I'm so sorry that you had such a bad experience. :( I'm done with hairdressers, because I couldn't find one that I could trust. I went to the same woman for years and years, but she always took off at least twice as much as I asked for, no matter what I said.
I went to other stylists in the last few years and got more of the same. They always wanted to "help me". Let's see... long hair makes me look "too tall and skinny", so I should really get my past-BSL hair cut up to collarbone-length. My hair is "thin", so that one-inch trim should really be more like four inches. Blunt cuts make me look "soooo young", so I should really get some edgy layers. :rolleyes:
Anywho... I suppose I have some pent-up hairstylist aggression. :p I encourage you to buy a decent pair of hair-cutting scissors and trim your own hair, if that appeals to you. It's not hard, and you don't have to leave your years of hard work in the hands of a chop-happy stylist.
brunetka
December 17th, 2010, 01:12 PM
I'm so sorry that you had such a bad experience. :( I'm done with hairdressers, because I couldn't find one that I could trust. I went to the same woman for years and years, but she always took off at least twice as much as I asked for, no matter what I said.
I went to other stylists in the last few years and got more of the same. They always wanted to "help me". Let's see... long hair makes me look "too tall and skinny", so I should really get my past-BSL hair cut up to collarbone-length. My hair is "thin", so that one-inch trim should really be more like four inches. Blunt cuts make me look "soooo young", so I should really get some edgy layers. :rolleyes:
Anywho... I suppose I have some pent-up hairstylist aggression. :p I encourage you to buy a decent pair of hair-cutting scissors and trim your own hair, if that appeals to you. It's not hard, and you don't have to leave your years of hard work in the hands of a chop-happy stylist.
they want to save you from the horrors of looking tall, thin, and young? :confused:
Druid of Alba
December 17th, 2010, 01:15 PM
Like Love23101 said, bring it up with the manager. You should not have to pay for that cut. Indeed, getting yuor money back wouldn't come close to repairing the damage she's done. With that being said, it is hair, and it will grow back, don't worry, but I know it is very frustrating. I don't know what else to say, other than it WILL grow back... So try not to be TOO upset. But definately let that salon have it.
This is why I'm always extremely proactive when I go to get my hair cut. I tell the hairdresser percisely what she (I've never had a male hairdresser) will cut my hair with (only the scissiors, not weird rozar combs or thinning shears or anything else), and I am the one who brushes me hair, the one who parts it, the one who sections it off, and I've even gone as far as to glide the comb through my hair until I get it to where I want it cut, and then I'll tell her to cut it there. If she even picked up the razor comb I'd stop her, haha. I know hairdressers must dread me, and think I'm a huge *****, but I'd rather that than have a cut that I don't want. You're paying them to cut your hair, so you let them know exactly what they're allowed to do. You're in charge of them, not the other way around. I once had a very foreceful hairdresser who seemed to think she had the right to tell me what she was going to do with my hair, so I just got up and left, and I felt great when I walked out the door.
Moral of the story, be extremely proactive when you get your hair done. Be active in the process. Do not just sit back and let them cut. Monitor every snip.
Again, I'm sorry, but you won't let this happen ever again now, will you? :)
By the way, I love your profile picture, it's beautiful :p
brunetka
December 17th, 2010, 01:17 PM
I'm so sorry you had to go through that. :( This is why I've been putting off getting a trim for months now. I had a hair dresser years ago who I would go to regularly to trim/freshen a short bob-type cut. I came to her one day asking for an inch off and ended up walking out with a cut 3 inches shorter than what I had asked for and awkwardly looking because she had already ventured into pixie territory but didn't cut enough or in the right shape to make it a proper pixie. It looked like I was in an awkward growing-out stage. I never went back there again and she asks my mom about me to this day (a good 5 years later).
Tia2010
December 17th, 2010, 01:20 PM
I'm so sorry that you had such a bad experience. :( I'm done with hairdressers, because I couldn't find one that I could trust. I went to the same woman for years and years, but she always took off at least twice as much as I asked for, no matter what I said.
I went to other stylists in the last few years and got more of the same. They always wanted to "help me". Let's see... long hair makes me look "too tall and skinny", so I should really get my past-BSL hair cut up to collarbone-length. My hair is "thin", so that one-inch trim should really be more like four inches. Blunt cuts make me look "soooo young", so I should really get some edgy layers. :rolleyes:
Anywho... I suppose I have some pent-up hairstylist aggression. :p I encourage you to buy a decent pair of hair-cutting scissors and trim your own hair, if that appeals to you. It's not hard, and you don't have to leave your years of hard work in the hands of a chop-happy stylist.
they want to save you from the horrors of looking tall, thin, and young? :confused:
Thats what I was thinking.:D If anyone tried to stop me from looking tall ( which isn't going to happen at 5'2") or skinny ...they would have a fight on their hands :slap:
meggykins
December 17th, 2010, 01:51 PM
Im so sorry this happened! Im scared to go to a hair salon for this very reason, and im also the type of person that wouldnt be able to speak up! Ill be going to live in Australia for a year, and my boyfriend mentioned ill need to find a hairstylist while im there, and i responded "NO WAY, im going to learn to trim my own hair!". Anyway, you should complain to them about it, or at least tell the hairstylist that you liked exactly what she did before she took out the thinning shears, and for next time to not go further.
MissCharizard
December 17th, 2010, 02:08 PM
I am definitely going to trim my own hair from now on. I was trimming before but I never seemed to do it right (I probably wasn't using the right scissors or method) and seeing the trimming method on this post and others I really don't think I will be going back in a very long time.
And yes, I have bangs and we were talking about it and she said if I didn't have bangs it would make me look like "Marsha Brady." I'm assuming that means boring hair so I guess she was trying to make me look more fresh.
Also I can't believe someone tried to save you from looking young, tall and skinny. What a joke! :rolleyes:
MissCharizard
December 17th, 2010, 02:13 PM
By the way, I love your profile picture, it's beautiful :p
http://i.imgur.com/VhSYD.jpg
This is the original if you are interested!
bluesnowflake
December 17th, 2010, 02:37 PM
I'm sorry :( Hope your hair grows out okay- trust me, I know it doesn't feel like you'll ever get used to it, but I had a bad cut once and I got used to it after a couple weeks.
autumn_aqua
December 18th, 2010, 10:34 AM
I'm sorry that happened to you, I'd say a lot of folks here have been though similar experiences... I know I have.
I think you said the thinning affected just the last couple inches of hair (I'm not minimizing, any amount of something you don't want is not okay), but at least it might be a small silver lining to you that the damage is contained to just that one area, and with a few small trims it will eventually be trimmed away. I bet even in six months, it will look a lot better!
I've been attacked my thinning shears too- one time I asked for some "texture" around my face.... I had no idea the thinning shears are also called "texturizing" scissors, something the stylist shared with me when I expressed my unhappiness. Implying it was my fault for using the term. It turned the sides of my hair into frizzy puffs that looked terrible, no matter what I tried to do, and took forever to grow out. Next time I saw her (and the last time), I mentioned what kind of effect it had had, and se denied ever using them! She said she'd never use thinning shears (er, texturizing scissors) on curly hair. Well, I know I didn't dream it!
I'd complain about it since it wasn't what you asked for, it couldn't hurt anyhow. Sending growing vibes your way!
kwaniesiam
December 18th, 2010, 10:39 AM
Calm down. Dry cutting at the end of a haircut is very common to help blend everything in, especially with thinning shears. She probably did that to blend what you had in while your layers grow out so they didn't look awkward and blunt. She should have consulted you first, but it's a very common thing to do and she probably didn't think twice about it. Don't worry, it will grow out and be trimmed away eventually.
PrincessTieflin
December 18th, 2010, 10:47 AM
I havent read through the whole thread yet :/ But IMO. (when I used to cut hair) Thinning shears were used to thin the layers and make it lay better, more smooth.. In my experinece this only works on super straight/thick hair. Thinning shears on curly hair is a nightmare.
In some cases. IT helps with updos, but again if you have staight thick hair.. I personally NEVER used them on ladies unless was asked to.
maus
December 18th, 2010, 06:13 PM
I can just repeat what everybody has already said: I am so sorry this happened to you! And a lot of us seem to be/have been in the same boat, so you are not alone (I know that doesn't help much right now). Believe me, it will get better.
I had a hairdresser who always told me that he can't leave my hair longer than APL. Till this day I don't know why, even though I begged him to leave it longer every time I went there. He also used thinning shears on me, even though I never asked him for it. Stopped going, and have been growing happy (longer) hair ever since. Again, not much consolation right now, but it really, really will grow back! Big hug!
jaine
December 18th, 2010, 06:23 PM
Calm down. Dry cutting at the end of a haircut is very common to help blend everything in, especially with thinning shears. She probably did that to blend what you had in while your layers grow out so they didn't look awkward and blunt. She should have consulted you first, but it's a very common thing to do and she probably didn't think twice about it. Don't worry, it will grow out and be trimmed away eventually.
I agree... My layers lay very awkwardly at the moment because the ends are so chunky and bluntish. Whatever she did will probably prevent cowlicky bits sticking out in odd directions like mine does. If I knew how to use thinning shears I would have made my ends more wispy last time I gave myself a trim.
But ...group hug anyway!! It stinks to be unpleasantly surprised like that.
MajorasMask
December 18th, 2010, 06:33 PM
Love the name charizard :)
Anyways. Ugh. I absolutely know what you are going through. For the life of me I cannot brim myself to walk in a salon. They always put thief personal preferences above your own. They cannot follow directions such as "just a small trim please" - and before you know it she slashes your BEAUTIFUL WAIST LENGTH HAIR to your ears!!!!!! Xbslqofbjasaa!! And you don't say anything because of course, she's the one armed with big pointy things at your skull •____• I cut my own hair now.
Darkhorse1
December 18th, 2010, 10:25 PM
All hair dressers have to tell you what they are going to do--so, she said she was going to use the scissors, but did she give you time to respond? In my area, they are very careful and always clarify and double check before cutting. Perhaps it's just from trial and error.
Hugs to you--we've all been there.
prosperina
December 18th, 2010, 10:32 PM
Calm down. Dry cutting at the end of a haircut is very common to help blend everything in, especially with thinning shears. She probably did that to blend what you had in while your layers grow out so they didn't look awkward and blunt. She should have consulted you first, but it's a very common thing to do and she probably didn't think twice about it. Don't worry, it will grow out and be trimmed away eventually.
See this would be nice to know. I had no idea this was so common. Is it a new trend I wonder? No one ever tried to do this to me before except in the last year or two. :confused:
I think part of the problem with the hairdresser angst on this site is most of us have no idea what to expect. I mean it never would have occured to me that thinning was common--especially for boring long hair like mine. I thought you had to ask specifically for it.
The hair dresser also tried to "texturize" my hair, but while it was still wet after she already cut my layers. Her intention was to thin it out, not to blend, which was odd since I truly do not have that much hair.
I'm sorry that the OP had to go through this.
UltraBella
December 18th, 2010, 10:37 PM
I have had thinning shears used on my hair since I was 13. I wonder how much hair I would have if I had said no....... But, for me it always helped my hair lay so nicely and I love having layers. Since the OP told the stylist she was growing her layers out, I see no reason why the stylist would have used them, especially without asking first. It's an unneccessary mistake and I am sorry :(
thatjengirl1
December 19th, 2010, 06:32 AM
Wow i'm sorry about that...
i always hear horror stories about hair stylists cutting off too much, but ive never had a problem.
I havent gone to a hairdresser since summer 2008 though, mostly because it's easier to just have my grandma trim for me (she's done hair her whole life)
Maybe try self trimming using the Feye's method. works great!
Purdy Bear
December 19th, 2010, 07:08 AM
Im so sorry that you have had to go through this.
I had a similar experience with a hair dresser. I went in for a 1 inch trim, I told her firmly and several times that all I wanted off. She took it on herself to cut 7 inches of because they had split ends.
I then went beserk, as she was about to cut another 7 inches off, so she did a S&D instead.
I ended getting the whole lot cut off to the nap, as she had destroyed my dream of being at waist a few months later.
KarenSJ
December 19th, 2010, 07:38 AM
I've been in the "Hair stylist knows best" situation WAY too many times myself. Funny thing is I have yet to encounter a hair stylist with long hair. I have concluded that in order to cut long hair properly, you need to have long hair. Kind of a "walk a mile in another's shoes" scenario. Joining the non-trimmers club until I can find another long hair to trim my hair. So tired of losing length due to incompetence....
Toadstool
December 19th, 2010, 07:39 AM
Calm down. Dry cutting at the end of a haircut is very common to help blend everything in, especially with thinning shears. She probably did that to blend what you had in while your layers grow out so they didn't look awkward and blunt. She should have consulted you first, but it's a very common thing to do and she probably didn't think twice about it. Don't worry, it will grow out and be trimmed away eventually.
That happened during my recent haircut. I was surprised because I thought she'd finished. Is it a recent trend?
Lemur_Catta
December 19th, 2010, 07:50 AM
I had a hairdresser who always told me that he can't leave my hair longer than APL. Till this day I don't know why, even though I begged him to leave it longer every time I went there. He also used thinning shears on me, even though I never asked him for it. Stopped going, and have been growing happy (longer) hair ever since. Again, not much consolation right now, but it really, really will grow back! Big hug!
This sounds incredible to me. You had to BEG him to leave your hair long? Was he making you a favor? You are the customer, you are paying, you get the haircut you want. If they do something you didn't want, or if they refuse to listen to you, walk away, ask to speak to a manager...do something. It's awful that something like this happened to you, and I'm glad you are not going anymore.
To the OP: I am so sorry to hear your story. Fortunately, it will grow out and it's only a few inches. I know it's hard to find a trustworthy stylist :( Fortunately I don't need one, since I trim my hair. But I have had both bad and good experiences.
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