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yellowchariot
December 15th, 2010, 12:17 AM
I'm going to set my YouTube page to "private" for a while. Check out this website/blog: FYI: I am not starting a forum war, and to be accused of such an act, is discriminating toward my own right of defense, and the intent of this thread! THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD IS TO WARN other members of the potential threat that is out there, I just so happened to run up on it! < link removed pending moderator discussion , please do not start forum wars >
^ That is a tutorial of one of my videos from my YouTube channel.

Apparently, whoever is running that site, is "stealing" peoples' videos and posting them onto his/her own site, and stating that the "source" is their own. So you all. . . be warned! I accidentally ran across my own video while searching for other tutorials on Google's Video Search engine!

I immediately wrote the "site owner" an email and asked that they remove my video, simply because they did not ask for my permission and they do not own the content. :rolleyes:

I do have the IP address of their domain name and the name of their ISP, should I need to contact them.

FTA: Feel Free to Leave a "comment" on their site ;-)

LissaJane
December 15th, 2010, 12:37 AM
Augh! internet theft really annoys me. I've had a few pictures of mine used as avatars and one of my pictures, taken straight off of my photobucket and used on a kiddy-porn website shudder:. The internet is so uncool sometimes.

luxepiggy
December 15th, 2010, 12:55 AM
Ugh! Ugh! Piggy objects! Strenuously, and with much affronted fist-shaking!

'8(>(oo)<)8'

This is one of my BIGGEST pet peeves. I sympathize with you completely - I've had photos used in eBay auctions, I've even had entire blog posts lifted and reproduced, word for word.

The only advice I can offer is: watermark everything with information that indicates the source. All of the photos I post of my designer items are watermarked with my forum username and the name of the forum, or with my blog's name and web address. And make sure the watermark is placed over a portion of the image that is difficult to edit. It won't completely stop people from stealing your work, but at least it will (a) be obvious that they stole it; and (b) let people who see it know you were the real creator.

Sorry this happened to you! http://forum.purseblog.com/images/smilies2/hugging.gif

yellowchariot
December 15th, 2010, 01:08 AM
Augh! internet theft really annoys me. I've had a few pictures of mine used as avatars and one of my pictures, taken straight off of my photobucket and used on a kiddy-porn website shudder:. The internet is so uncool sometimes.

^ That's horrible, LissaJane!! I'm sorry for that!


Ugh! Ugh! Piggy objects! Strenuously, and with much affronted fist-shaking!

'8(>(oo)<)8'

This is one of my BIGGEST pet peeves. I sympathize with you completely - I've had photos used in eBay auctions, I've even had entire blog posts lifted and reproduced, word for word.

The only advice I can offer is: watermark everything with information that indicates the source. All of the photos I post of my designer items are watermarked with my forum username and the name of the forum, or with my blog's name and web address. And make sure the watermark is placed over a portion of the image that is difficult to edit. It won't completely stop people from stealing your work, but at least it will (a) be obvious that they stole it; and (b) let people who see it know you were the real creator.

Sorry this happened to you! http://forum.purseblog.com/images/smilies2/hugging.gif

Luxepiggy, I've been meaning to make a watermark, but I haven't had time, now it had bitten me in the butt! :o

That must have been a horrible experience, did you ever contact the main site and have justice served on them?!

Juneii
December 15th, 2010, 01:20 AM
ugh! what is with these rude people? I recently got my phone number used as a caller ID for scam calls. Got about 15-20 phone calls from people telling me to leave them alone when I did nothing :/ why do people take things that don't belong to them? so annoying!
I think there is an option on youtube that you can choose which requires anyone attaching videos onto a website or linking it from another place to go and see the video on youtube only. It won't stop people from trying to claim your video as their own but at least it's obvious it is not theirs.

Jessica Trapp
December 15th, 2010, 01:22 AM
arrrrrrrrrrrgh! How annoying!

2peasinapod
December 15th, 2010, 01:24 AM
I'm sorry this happened. I always enjoyed your videos, and I hope this issue gets resolved quickly.

LissaJane, that makes me so angry just reading that :angry:! Did the site ever get taken down?

yellowchariot
December 15th, 2010, 01:39 AM
Hey everyone, I think that I resolved this issue, by deleting my own video from my youtube account. Thus, it broke the link. Luckily this person DID NOT download my video, and then upload it to his site! That is what I had thought happened! :rolleyes: Nevertheless my "words/description" has been plagiarized word for word. I wouldn't have mind if this person contacted me, and ask if they could link it to their blog FIRST, then naturally my description would be in the video. . . but instead, they were copied and pasted into the blog itself.

Before I post anymore vid's they will be water marked. . . which IMO ruins the whole experience for somebody that is sincerely wanting to view a nice quality tutorial.

lilravendark
December 15th, 2010, 01:45 AM
imitation is the best form of flattery but also the most annoying ey? All I can say about that guy is what an idiot!

yellowchariot
December 15th, 2010, 02:15 AM
ugh! what is with these rude people? I recently got my phone number used as a caller ID for scam calls. Got about 15-20 phone calls from people telling me to leave them alone when I did nothing :/ why do people take things that don't belong to them? so annoying!
I think there is an option on youtube that you can choose which requires anyone attaching videos onto a website or linking it from another place to go and see the video on youtube only. It won't stop people from trying to claim your video as their own but at least it's obvious it is not theirs.

^ That must have been terrible. I had recently purchased a cell phone last year, and I kept getting credit debt collection agencies calling me. So I had to tell them that this number no longer belong to the original owner. Finally they stopped after 2 months!


arrrrrrrrrrrgh! How annoying!

^ You said it sister!


I'm sorry this happened. I always enjoyed your videos, and I hope this issue gets resolved quickly.

LissaJane, that makes me so angry just reading that :angry:! Did the site ever get taken down?



imitation is the best form of flattery but also the most annoying ey? All I can say about that guy is what an idiot!


^ I wonder though. . . if they were making fun of me just because I am a "guy" with long hair, making hair tutorials. . . :o

Or if they were actually trying to take credit for something that wasn't theirs :confused:

luxepiggy
December 15th, 2010, 03:12 AM
^ That's horrible, LissaJane!! I'm sorry for that!



Luxepiggy, I've been meaning to make a watermark, but I haven't had time, now it had bitten me in the butt! :o

That must have been a horrible experience, did you ever contact the main site and have justice served on them?!

Luckily, I have many, many friends who like to search ebay on a daily basis for just the types of items that I had photographed, so by the time I find out about the thievery, the ebay auctions have often already been pulled, having been reported by the aforementioned friends as soon as they saw my watermarked photos. It actually rather amuses me now when people steal my photos for ebay, as I now watermark them with "not for sale" in big red letters . . . um, I think that's going to send a BIG red flag to buyers, but go right ahead . . . hehe :p

As for the site that stole my blog posts . . . to add insult to injury, the site was selling counterfeits of the designer items that I had mentioned on my blog!!! I nearly keeled over and died right there :hatchet:

Alas, they were hosted on an overseas server and based overseas as well, so there wasn't really anything I could do. :angry::steam

Ludde
December 15th, 2010, 03:43 AM
I am sorry it happened you.

It has happened quite frequently with my texts and photos during the last 15 years. On the good side of this it means my ideas and way of thinking about things are spread even further. Maybe you can see it the same way? Your work is good enough for other people to want.

Another consolation i have turned to is the fact that I can always produce new ideas, texts, photos. Copycats hardly ever get around to producing anything on their own.

I did not understand your reference to the possibility of someone making fun of you being a guy and producing hair tutorials. Do you really think it is so?

svehex
December 15th, 2010, 03:58 AM
Sorry to hear you got ripped off. Someone once ripped off a whole (huge!) portion of my website and used it as their own. They even hot linked the images. I resolved it by not allowing hot linking on my site. Then the person can sit there with large stop signs instead of images.

yellowchariot
December 15th, 2010, 04:46 AM
FYI: I am not starting a forum war, and to be accused of such an act, is discriminating towards Myself, and the intent of this thread!

THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD IS TO WARN other members of the potential threat of what I stumbled upon. I just so happened to run up on it, and inform the rest of us "honorable and respectful members" what was going on, this could have happened to anyone of us! Hopefully their videos were not on there as well!

If Team moderation finds this thread of warning LHC members of a potential threat. . . un-justified or disturbing in nature. . . then please delete the thread. It obviously serves no logical purpose. Especially for reasons, such as "forum wars."


To the Wonderful Kind Hearted Members of LHC with tutorial videos: Please search for your own videos online using different search engines, that may be linked to websites without your permission.


I have nothing more to say in this thread. Allow the mods to do what they wish with it.

tinti
December 15th, 2010, 04:47 AM
I'm sorry this happened to you :( But I'm happy you resolved it halfway. And if they think you're weird because you have long hair that you can make nice tutorials with hte laugh's on them and their little prejudiced minds :)

Finoriel
December 15th, 2010, 05:22 AM
The link got temporarily removed out of safety reasons, which is common practice. When more moderators are online and have the time to discuss this topic it will eventually be restored or not, depending on what the majority decides.

We often remove links because a lot of people do monitor from which homepage they got linked / get klick-peaks and it may be better to not guide this person to LHC in general. Much less to a thread discussing them, which in addition is asking the membership to go to the blog and "comment". It may have been unintentional and just said in a huff, but this is how forum wars usually start. So I was merely asking everybody to please not do that. Since I was able to find the blog by googling it after your description this is a valid concern even after removing the link.

Me breaking the link had nothing to do with the fact that I would not want you to warn LHC about the risks of video/picture theft on the Internet. It's an all to easy forgotten risk and I actually think it should be mentioned more often so everybody is aware of it. Hence I did not lock the thread "pending discussion".

Deletion of threads is something we rarely decide to do out of transparency reasons. Most common exceptions are legal issues and privacy concerns.

Hope that explains why the link got removed.
I'm really sorry this happened to you and I'm glad you where able to remove your video by deleting it from your youtube account.

Anje
December 15th, 2010, 07:50 AM
While this doesn't help with the cross-forum discussion possibilities, it might be worth using an intermediate website to prevent referrer-logging in cases where it might not be preferable for the linked site to know that the traffic is coming from LHC.

I'd suggest the Indirectotron 9000 (http://www.uftoolbox.info/indirectotron/indirectotron.php). It's standard etiquette to link through it over at UserFriendly.

littlenvy
December 15th, 2010, 08:10 AM
yellowchariot, I'm so sorry this has happened to you!!
There is nothing worse then coming across your own work with someone else's name on it or in someone else's site!
Its an act of stealing!! plain and simple.
I'm also sorry you had to delete your video from youtube. That's just not fair.

BrightBlack
December 15th, 2010, 08:19 AM
As a viewer who occasionally saves good vids that may not be located easily again - PLEASE watermark everything!! It doesn't ruin the experience, it makes it possible to track down the person who made the awesome video so that it may be possible to locate more awesomeness!

little_cherry
December 15th, 2010, 08:42 AM
Watermark or not; theft is theft. I'm so sorry this happened to you and hope that this situation gets sorted soon.

LissaJane
December 15th, 2010, 08:46 AM
I'm sorry this happened. I always enjoyed your videos, and I hope this issue gets resolved quickly.

LissaJane, that makes me so angry just reading that :angry:! Did the site ever get taken down?

Indeed.. I was in a country that blocked the website when I came across it by searching one of my usernames in google, I got a friend of mine outside the country to confirm that it was me used in the picture (actually a very innocent picture, but I felt violated to be assosciated with such a website). It was linked straight from my photobucket, so I took the picture down. I visited the site again when I was in South Africa, to find that it no longer existed.


Luckily, I have many, many friends who like to search ebay on a daily basis for just the types of items that I had photographed, so by the time I find out about the thievery, the ebay auctions have often already been pulled, having been reported by the aforementioned friends as soon as they saw my watermarked photos. It actually rather amuses me now when people steal my photos for ebay, as I now watermark them with "not for sale" in big red letters . . . um, I think that's going to send a BIG red flag to buyers, but go right ahead . . . hehe :p

As for the site that stole my blog posts . . . to add insult to injury, the site was selling counterfeits of the designer items that I had mentioned on my blog!!! I nearly keeled over and died right there :hatchet:

Alas, they were hosted on an overseas server and based overseas as well, so there wasn't really anything I could do. :angry::steam

Wow, this must be super frustrating! People are just so lazy and inconsiderate these days.

yellowchariot, sorry you had to resort to deleting your video, at least it wasn't permanently downloaded. I do believe watermarking is the way to go.

yellowchariot
December 15th, 2010, 10:57 AM
The link got temporarily removed out of safety reasons, which is common practice. When more moderators are online and have the time to discuss this topic it will eventually be restored or not, depending on what the majority decides.

We often remove links because a lot of people do monitor from which homepage they got linked / get klick-peaks and it may be better to not guide this person to LHC in general. Much less to a thread discussing them, which in addition is asking the membership to go to the blog and "comment". It may have been unintentional and just said in a huff, but this is how forum wars usually start. So I was merely asking everybody to please not do that. Since I was able to find the blog by googling it after your description this is a valid concern even after removing the link.

Me breaking the link had nothing to do with the fact that I would not want you to warn LHC about the risks of video/picture theft on the Internet. It's an all to easy forgotten risk and I actually think it should be mentioned more often so everybody is aware of it. Hence I did not lock the thread "pending discussion".

Deletion of threads is something we rarely decide to do out of transparency reasons. Most common exceptions are legal issues and privacy concerns.

Hope that explains why the link got removed.
I'm really sorry this happened to you and I'm glad you where able to remove your video by deleting it from your youtube account.

^ Finoriel I really appreciate you taking the time for explaining the purpose of the link removal. :) Thank you very much.