I need some Suggestions please (Comb/Brush/Conditioner/Etc)

[Raekwon]

The reason why I am making this post is because I am not sure what my hair type is, and because of that, I am not sure what I should buy for my hair. Different tools are made for different hair textures and volumes... And I just do not know what mine are.

Pictures of my hair:

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http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/7153/pict2224.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6894/pict2238.jpg

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9585/pict2237.jpg

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5641/photoon20101027at1117.jpg

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5395/photoon20101027at1118.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/240/photoon20101031at2237.jpg
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4616/photoon20101031at22372.jpg
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ok.. so i just need to know what type of comb or brush i need. price does not matter.

http://tenderheaded.com/eujuraco.html (http://http//tenderheaded.com/eujuraco.html)

http://hairsense.com/bonecombs.htm (http://http//hairsense.com/bonecombs.htm)

i found recommendations for those two sites... but then i read somewhere that mason pearson has the best products...

so i checked that site, and i checked the most expensive item, because in my mind, the more expensive something is, the better it is...

so i found this.. http://www.whatshebuys.com/mapeexlaallb.html

(The Mason Pearson Large Extra All Boar Bristle Hair Brush (B1) is the largest of the pure boar brushes with 8 rings of extra stiff boar bristle tufts. The brush is 9 inches long (head length is 5 inches) and 3 1/4 inches wide. )

BUT... I read somewhere that
"3) stop combing/brushing your hair so much. again, i learned this from the hair boards. excessive grooming can cause split ends. i always wondered why i had so many splits in my crown area. it was due to obsessively slicking back those ponytails with my hard boar bristle brush (oooo it felt good though). now i gently brush my edges down with a cuticle-friendly brush using aloe vera gel. i’ve learned that i can redo my box braids during the week by detangling with my fingers or lightly misting with my floral water spritz then detangling with my seamless comb."

... so.. im not supposed to use a boar bristle brush?? anyway.. just recommend me what i should get please. (comb... brush... i dont know.. bone... cellulote alose???)


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Next, i was referred to this website-
http://www.discoverb4a.com/HAIR-CARE_c_280.html

it is a website for hair care products.. shampoos, conditioners, and those type of stuff. what should i get?

I know I'm supposed to be deep moisturize condition once a week for half an hour.. and use shampoo least as possible.. so i try to keep that at once a week or once every two weeks,
but to condition every day. so from that site, which shampoo and conditioners would you all recommend for my hair type / volume... and are there any other things from that site I should buy and apply to my hair??

other suggestions and websites are obviously welcome.


Thanks in advance.

[Raekwon]

Hm. Maybe I should have posted this in the 'Mane' forum? Could a moderator move this please?

[Roseate]

I would say a good wide-toothed comb should be your first purchase, if you don't have one. The sites you linked too are good ones, both offer several choices of seamless widetooth combs, any of those would do.

Many curlies don't use BBB's, because they just break up your curls and cause frizz. I don't find that the bristles even reach through my hair, anyway; BBB's do nothing for me. The only brush I use is a Denman (http://www.denmanbrush.com/acatalog/Classic_Styling.html), which I love.

Welcome to LHC!

[Raekwon]

Thanks for your reply.

I don't think I am a 'curly' though... My hair has 3 different types of textures.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v170/42/19/788485544/n788485544_2138136_340.jpg


I had gotten that haircut back in October 28 2007 (it was a forced haircut by my dad cuz I got suspended from school blablabla n he made me do it as a punishment...

All the hair that has been shaved off from that haircut grew back, and those are the strands of my hair that have a curly texture. The remaining parts of my hair remain straight at the top, but halfway down they have a 'wavy' texture.

so... hair on the back part - curly
hair at the top - straight
other strands of hair - wavy.

[spidermom]

I'd save brushing for just before washing to distribute oils and remove shed hairs. Otherwise use a smooth wide-toothed comb on your hair. Make sure your hair gets plenty of moisture; invest in a good conditioner and some coconut oil that you can apply to bottom half of length. Try oiling lightly on damp hair after washing, also try on dry hair the day before washing. You'll probably like the results of one better than the other. (I like oiling before washing.)

[virgo75]

1st - Welcome and you have gorgeous hair. :)

2nd - Most wurly/curly haired people have a mixture of hair textures. You can take a look at this site that may help you figure out what your hair type is:
http://www.naturallycurly.com/pages/hairtypes/type2

I gave you the link to the "2's" because you seem like a combo of "2's" - or wavies with a potenial to curl more or less depending on how you care for your hair. You can look at some of the pics and see where you may fall. There's also a forum there that may be able to help you out as well.

As for product recommendations, it's hard to know what to recommend since we don't know what(if any) problems you may be having with your hair? Like is it drier than you would like, less curly, more curly, frizzy, flat, poofy, etc.? What products are you using now? Are they working for you, or is there something that they could improve on(add shine, control frizz, etc.)?

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm hoping more people will chime in once they know what type of product help you need. :)

[In2wishin]

As for product recommendations, it's hard to know what to recommend since we don't know what(if any) problems you may be having with your hair? Like is it drier than you would like, less curly, more curly, frizzy, flat, poofy, etc.? What products are you using now? Are they working for you, or is there something that they could improve on(add shine, control frizz, etc.)?

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm hoping more people will chime in once they know what type of product help you need. :)

I was going to post something similar to what Virgo75 said: start with the products you are currently using. What do you like about them, what don't you like about them? When you determine what changes you want as far as results then you can start searching for products that will give you those results.

Welcome to LHC :waving:
You have very lovely hair! Just keep reading and posting and you will get educated more that you ever imagined.

[Vermelha]

I'ma make it simple for you, hun.

You will need:
1. A Denman classic. (Find these at Sally Beauty or online).
2. A wide-tooth, rounded tip comb (Jilbere and Goody make good, sturdy, seamless ones).
3. Your hair is in good condition, but I could suggest coconut oil to keep it growing long and strong. it's lightweight too and resists weathering. It also helps define your curl.

Also, you are not quite a curly, but you do have some curl. You're like a 2b/2c, and you have a beautiful texture. My hair is like you describe, how there are wavy and loose sections and there are curlier sections. The front of my hair is a type 2 and the back is a 3b/3c, so I can relate.

Oh yeah, and post the products you are using now. But the way I see it, whatever you've been doing so far must have been working. How long have you been growing? It looks like 5 years of growth at 30", I'm estimating, maybe?

[christine1989]

A seamless wide tooth comb would be your best bet. My hair can be wavy, curly or staight(ish) and they always detangle my hair well without causing breakage. I have a really good one by karastase (like the comb, hate the hair products) I think a brush would make your hair poof out too much but if you do use one you should probobly use a leave in conditioner first.

[Raekwon]

As for product recommendations, it's hard to know what to recommend since we don't know what(if any) problems you may be having with your hair? Like is it drier than you would like, less curly, more curly, frizzy, flat, poofy, etc.?
The problem I have with my hair is that it tangles up and starts locking like if I were on a dreadlock journey. It feels like I keep breaking my hair. I have these "fuzzballs" which seem to form from the curls tangling together and stuff. I want to get rid of all that.



What products are you using now? Are they working for you, or is there something that they could improve on(add shine, control frizz, etc.)?Products... I use none right now. I used to use Mane & Tale Deep Moisturizing Shampoo, & Deep Moisturizing conditioner... However I've done research and now am avoiding the following ingredients (and other substances):


Isopropyl Alcohol, Mineral Oil/ Petrolatum, Polyethylene Glycol (PEG), Propylene Glycol (PG), Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS)/ Sodium Laureth Sulfate (SLES), TEA lauryl, TEA, Diethanolamine (DEA), Momoethnanolamine (MEA), Triethanolamine (TEA), Cocamide DEA or Lauramide DEA, DEA-based detergents, FD & C Colors, Synthetic Fragrances, Propylene Glycol, toxins, parabens, formaldehyde or formaldehyde-donors.

nearly all 'commercial' products have these ingredients.. so i just stay away from products period. the site i linked for hair products in my first post in this thread is a all natural / harmless ingredient hair product site. the thing is, i do not know what to get for my hair. i guess i'm a "natural/nature-freak" though really lol. Mane & Tale was cool but I remember reading on the bottle that it had some of the ingredients from that list. What am I looking for? Well I guess to change the problem that I have with my hair, as I addressed in the previous question... Um.. I guess I'd like my hair to be shiny... Really though, when I have my hair in a ponytail, a lot of times there's just fly around hairs.. like fuzzy hairs stickin out n not laying down.

Besides using extra virgin biological olive oil on my hairline after I get my 'taper' done, I do not use anything else because I want to start from fresh with the products.

A 'taper' is baby hairs/bangs shaved down to a sideburn level, n gets lined up n replaces the existing hairline... i think that's how i would define it. but here's a pic of a taper (which goes all around.. front, side, back.) :

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5628/pict2163.jpg


and so i just put my olive oil on that and that is all for products that i currently use.


Sorry for all the questions, but I'm hoping more people will chime in once they know what type of product help you need. :)No problem, the more the questions the better it is so it can be precise.



I'ma make it simple for you, hun.

You will need:
1. A Denman classic. (Find these at Sally Beauty or online).
2. A wide-tooth, rounded tip comb (Jilbere and Goody make good, sturdy, seamless ones).
Okay, so when would I use these two different utensils? I'm guessing one for when it is wet and the other for when it's dry? Or.. Use one first then switch to the other once I'm done with the first?



3. Your hair is in good condition, but I could suggest coconut oil to keep it growing long and strong. it's lightweight too and resists weathering. It also helps define your curl.
Hmm.. Wouldn't that make my hair look oily when I go out though?


Also, you are not quite a curly, but you do have some curl. You're like a 2b/2c, and you have a beautiful texture. My hair is like you describe, how there are wavy and loose sections and there are curlier sections. The front of my hair is a type 2 and the back is a 3b/3c, so I can relate.

Oh yeah, and post the products you are using now. But the way I see it, whatever you've been doing so far must have been working. How long have you been growing? It looks like 5 years of growth at 30", I'm estimating, maybe?
I have been growing for 5 years, however, 2 years into my growth, I received a punishment from my dad and got half of my hair cut off... The barber took my ponytail, took the clipper, and chopped off a gigantic portion of my tail off.. Then at the level of where my hairline begins, but at the opposite end, so at the back of my head, and below, he shaved everything off...

I went from

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v113/42/19/788485544/n788485544_1041898_5924.jpg

to

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v170/42/19/788485544/n788485544_2138136_340.jpg


I was using different products throughout this growing period.. just anything my mom would buy. fructis garnier.. all different types. at some points i was using shampoo made for dyed hair lol even though i never put color in my hair. umm... pantene pro-v... i dont know what else.. i think that is all. When I became independent, I started using Mane & Tail... But I stopped using it because of ingredients and now I do not use anything. Except Olive Oil on my taper. I also use olive oil for skin moisturizer before i go to bed.

Hm....... I use "Lets Jam" (orange top) when I have my braids in, I have eco olive oil gel that I used twice in my life... I used a leave-in conditioner for a week on my hair but it turned my hair to stone so I stopped messing with it.. "Fantasia IC Leave in moisturizer treatment aloe complex" but i checked the ingredients and it has some of the ingredients I listed that I stay away from.





A seamless wide tooth comb would be your best bet. My hair can be wavy, curly or staight(ish) and they always detangle my hair well without causing breakage. I have a really good one by karastase (like the comb, hate the hair products) I think a brush would make your hair poof out too much but if you do use one you should probobly use a leave in conditioner first.

Leave-in conditioner... I used that for like a week 4 months ago... It turned my hair rock hard... like the ends were kind of glued up n turned to rock... Maybe it was just that leave-in conditioner that did to my hair or maybe it is leave-in conditioners in general that do that to my hair- I do not know. However, I've read some other people have the same problem as I, that is hwy I had always concluded that it was Leave-In conditioners that generally had that effect on my hair.

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Thanks everyone for the welcome/comments/and responses. :)

[Vermelha]

You could either use the Denman in the shower with your hair loaded with conditioner to help define your texture (if your interested), or you can use the Denman to help smooth your hair into a style you desire. It's good all around for getting out shed hairs, but use it gently, or it can rip out hair (pretty much like any hair brush).

The wide tooth comb can be used whenever, pretty much.

Also, it all depends on your hair when it comes to oil. If heavy products don't really bother your hair, oiling it will be fine. Oil soaks in, unless you're heavy-handed. I use coconut and sometimes castor on my ends because my hair is naturally dry.

Also, oil pre-poos and scalp treatments, especially with olive and castor, help with promoting thickness in the scalp. You'll get the benefits of oil without having to wear oil in the hair every day. Do this an hour or more before shampooing to help chelate metals that are in water, which are harmful to hair. The oil protects the length from the shampoo.

I'm like you too as far as getting rid of harmful ingredients. I use Organix Coconut Milk shampoo (sulfate and paraben free) and I use Jane Carter Wrap and Roll, a setting lotion that is paraben and cone free. Those are possible suggestions.

Anywho, happy growing! Look forward to seeing your progress!

[Jessica Trapp]

I love my wide tooth Mason Pearson comb!

[Bene]

The only reason I'm giving any Do's and Don'ts on this is because your hair texture is similar to mine in some of your photos. Also, your hair looks like the resilient "I don't need extra crap to get by", like mine, so you really don't have to do anything "special"


You don't NEED any specific type of product or instrument. There's no one brand or type that is going to work miracles.

I do suggest a seamless comb. That's pretty much standard for anyone who detangles, except from people who exclusively fingercomb. Bone, wood, plastic, bakelite, doesn't matter. Just as long as the teeth seamless.

You DO need conditioner. Unless you've decided on an alternative (water only, ACV rinses, etc.), you'll have to experiment to see what conditioner works best for you.

You have some curls, so I'd stay away from a boar bristle brush. You can do it if you bun (I'm not sure how you feel about bunning), because with a leave-in you can brush and then bun and your hair won't go poof.

As for oils, any light to medium oil would work for you. If you've managed to grow hair without any special products or pre-poo oiling, or leave-ins, then you can do without. If you're interested in trying oils, there's no one that you NEED. Trust me on this.


As for clarifying, you only need to do this once in a while, depending on the brand of conditioner you use. Before you do anything drastic, a good clarifying is the first step. Even something as drastic as chelating can be quite harsh and unnecessary. Unless you like messing around with your hair and buying new products, I can assure you, you don't need it.


Aside from that, wash only when you feel your hair needs it. Take it easy on extra products. Don't buy into the hype that there is one miracle solution or technique. Trial and error is really the only way to do it. Don't drive yourself crazy trying to cut out "chemicals" unless you have allergies or ethical objections to anything in particular. Just find what works for you

[kabelaced]

Don't drive yourself crazy trying to cut out "chemicals" unless you have allergies or ethical objections to anything in particular. Just find what works for you

Seconding this. I tried going the "all-natural" route for a few months and it was very costly, plus I didn't end up liking the results. Considering the fact that the chemicals in shampoo/conditioner are only on top of the hair for a few minutes to an hour, you are all right by using Suave or whatever stuff works for you. None of the chemicals in the processed shampoos/conditioners are absorbed into the scalp or into the hair. Shampoos and conditioners coat the cuticle (outer shell of the hair) only.

Reading a lot of those "go natural" books had me scared about chemicals, and probably you, too. Pick and choose your battles: I use deodorants and toothpastes that are as chemical-free as possible, but I've since gone back to chemical-laden shampoos and conditioners, because I like the consistent shine and feel that they give to my hair. :eek:

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the Tangle Teezer yet...:eyebrows:

[bumblebums]

As a curly, you don't really need a brush unless you want to follow the curl-enhancing methods of hair care like this one (http://tightlycurly.com). You can get by with just a comb, one that has widely spaced tines and no visible seams. Some curlies only finger-comb. I hope you have learned also not to brush your hair when it is dry (unless it's right before washing).

Product-wise, you'll hear a lot of conflicting recommendations. Some things work for some people and fail for others, because there are many factors that affect results. Your hair texture is probably on the coarse side, so you can get away with a lot of things that people with fine hairs cannot do. I have actually cut out all commercial products from my regimen. If you were to go that route, check out the Official Water Only Thread (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=3412). Or read this (http://www.longhaircommunity.com/archive/showthread.php?t=50999).

[Madora]

Wide tooth comb

Brush: boar bristle is the best because it understands your hair structure (per George Michael, famed Czar of Long Hair care for many years).

Whatever brush you decide on, your hair will benefit if you are careful when brushing/combing.

Precautions:

1) Fingercomb hair first before doing anything
2) Next, use wide tooth comb. Part your hair down
the middle, then taking a few strands, begin to
comb UP THE strands, a little at the time, until you
reach the scalp. Continue until all hair is combed
out. This method is slower..but gentler to remove
any tangles
3) Brush hair last

Cautions: Don't use a curved brush. It will wreak havoc on your hair.

Don't brush wet hair, ever. Hair is at it weakest when
wet.

Lastly, it isn't necessary to spend a fortune on a brush
(which I did once). Goody makes great boar bristle brushes for under $12.00. I've also seen some nice looking boar bristle brushes at Target.

[GRU]

I hope you have learned also not to brush your hair when it is dry (unless it's right before washing).


Even then, extreme caution is needed when brushing curly hair. I didn't realize that I was RIPPING my hair off at the knots at the ends when I brushed it before taking a shower.



Don't brush wet hair, ever. Hair is at it weakest when wet.


Note -- wet hair coated with conditioner can be safely combed/brushed. Just always take care to detangle any snarls.

I use a "shower comb" (similar to this (http://www.drugstore.com/conair-brush-icy-pastels-shower-comb/qxp226429)-- there are a gazillion different options to be had for under five dollars) for my initial detangling (with wet hair coated in conditioner) and then a "wet styling comb" (this one (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Styling-Essentials-Wet-Styling-93565-Comb/14654069)) afterward for even finer detangling and better product distribution.

[Vermelha]

Not to be a smartie, but I don't think you "need" anything. You managed 30" of length in less than 5 years. That's faster than most of us. You should be schooling us! Just keep doing whatever it is you're doing. And note that less is always more.

[mali]

You must be a 2c/3a maybe?

[BrightEyes7]

I agree with everyone about a wide tooth comb. BBB is too much for my hair. I detangle, GENTLY, with a wide tooth when damp (I never touch my hair when wet, it breaks too much) and when dry I'll use a wood quil paddle brush to smooth. But you have curlier hair than me so I think you could do with just a wide tooth.

Since you don't want a lot of harsh chemicals might I suggest going sulfate-free. I use the Loreal EverStrong Sulfat-Free System, the Hydrate Shampoo and Conditioner. It works great for me!

Also coconut oil is light enough, if you don't put too much... you need next to nothing, to wear daily.

Also you mentioned that your hair has a lot of fly aways near the top of your head. This can be two things. It can be re-growth. In that case it is just a waiting game, smooth them down with a bit of oil. Or it can be breakage. You're a boy, most men seem to do this, do you wear your ponytail in the same spot EVERY day? Do you pull the elastic really tight so your hair is super tight? This may be your problem! If you wear your hair in the same spot it creates breakage and weakness in that area your elactic is near. It is putting stress on the same area of hair, making it break more. If you do this make sure to switch up your ponytail position, up an inch one day, down and inch the next. You get the idea.

Hope I helped and welcome to LHC!! :flowers:

[Raekwon]

I agree with everyone about a wide tooth comb. BBB is too much for my hair. I detangle, GENTLY, with a wide tooth when damp (I never touch my hair when wet, it breaks too much) and when dry I'll use a wood quil paddle brush to smooth. But you have curlier hair than me so I think you could do with just a wide tooth.

Since you don't want a lot of harsh chemicals might I suggest going sulfate-free. I use the Loreal EverStrong Sulfat-Free System, the Hydrate Shampoo and Conditioner. It works great for me!

Also coconut oil is light enough, if you don't put too much... you need next to nothing, to wear daily.

Also you mentioned that your hair has a lot of fly aways near the top of your head. This can be two things. It can be re-growth. In that case it is just a waiting game, smooth them down with a bit of oil. Or it can be breakage. You're a boy, most men seem to do this, do you wear your ponytail in the same spot EVERY day? Do you pull the elastic really tight so your hair is super tight? This may be your problem! If you wear your hair in the same spot it creates breakage and weakness in that area your elactic is near. It is putting stress on the same area of hair, making it break more. If you do this make sure to switch up your ponytail position, up an inch one day, down and inch the next. You get the idea.

Hope I helped and welcome to LHC!! :flowers:

I used to have a wide tooth comb till my hair finally ended up breaking the comb after a week (:mad:). That wide tooth comb.. I don't know.. My hair would always wrap around it like vines. Then again, I was wide tooth combing straight after showers, so while my hair was wet. When I was combing it when my hair was dry... I'd be done and there would be a ball of hair formed after I removed all my hair that came off n wrapped around the comb... I don't know if this is normal but seeing that much hair come off makes me raise concerns and stuff.

I wear my ponytail in a bunch of different spots, it depends on the headgear I'm wearing the day.. different hats, different glasses.. etc. I don't use an elastic btw.. I use a scrunchie. Should I change to an elastic? When I remove my scrunchie I have a hard time because my hair locks up on it and then i have to pull my scrunchie out and i have like 1 - 5 hair(s) come out because of it.

[Raekwon]

http://www.denmanbrush.com/acatalog/D5_thumb.jpg

http://www.purespadirect.com/v/vspfiles/photos/VJ-543546-2.jpg



Ok, so I'm about to buy these two things... Should I change the rake comb for a different wide tooth comb?

[GrowingGlory]

Alaffia Nourishing Shampoo and Conditioner might work for you. A bone comb would glide right through your hair without absorbing any oil. Your hair looks really healthy and if you continue to care for it well, it will be more attractive than it was before it was cut.

[Raekwon]

Instead of making a new Thread, I decided to bump this one.

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i447/davidcarby/Ponytail/2010102.jpg







Question: is it possible to get my hair like that?






if so, how would i do it

[Raekwon]

bumpy?. :(

[GRU]

Question: is it possible to get my hair like that?


if so, how would i do it

:confused:

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what it is you're asking about.... are you trying to get your hair like the pictures at the beginning of the thread, or like the picture in this most recent post, or like something else altogether?

[chopandchange]

Oil soaks in

I feel it is misleading to the OP for you to state your own experiences as though they were fact, or a general rule applicable to everyone.

In my experience, oil does NOT "soak in." It just sits there, and does NOTHING for my hair at all other than make it oily. But I'm not going to state that as a general rule, because lots of people find oil DOES soak in.

I think it may be dependent on porosity and since this can vary so much from one person to the next, I think it would be misleading to a newbie to state your own experience as though it were fact. Some advice on this board is fact and universal experiences: "Heat styling is damaging. Split ends can't be healed." etc etc but advice on oiling has to be taken on a "trial and error" basis!

OP, if you experiment with oiling I suggest you do it on a day where you're not planning to go out anywhere for at least two days, just in case you can't wash it out! But hopefully you will have the kind of hair that manages to "soak it up" and go shiny instead of just looking greasy.

[chopandchange]

Regarding your hair wrapping around the comb like vines:

I know exactly what you mean and I know why it happens.

That happens to me when I am combing too fast or impatiently, and without realising it I have lifted the comb back up to start a new stroke before finishing the previous one. DO NOT DO THIS! LOL. It's not worth it. More haste, less speed. Don't start a new stroke with the comb until it has reached the bottom of your hair and is completely free and clear of hair.

And if that's not the reason it's happening, I'm stumped! I can't think of any other reason why your hair would wrap itself around the comb.

[GRU]

I feel it is misleading to the OP for you to state your own experiences as though they were fact, or a general rule applicable to everyone.

In my experience, oil does NOT "soak in." It just sits there, and does NOTHING for my hair at all other than make it oily. But I'm not going to state that as a general rule, because lots of people find oil DOES soak in.

I think it may be dependent on porosity and since this can vary so much from one person to the next, I think it would be misleading to a newbie to state your own experience as though it were fact. Some advice on this board is fact and universal experiences: "Heat styling is damaging. Split ends can't be healed." etc etc but advice on oiling has to be taken on a "trial and error" basis!

OP, if you experiment with oiling I suggest you do it on a day where you're not planning to go out anywhere for at least two days, just in case you can't wash it out! But hopefully you will have the kind of hair that manages to "soak it up" and go shiny instead of just looking greasy.


I'm not sure who peed in your corn flakes this morning, but you're a bit off-base here, IMO. You left out a significant part of Vermelha's post, which makes your statement here to be out of line:



Also, it all depends on your hair when it comes to oil. If heavy products don't really bother your hair, oiling it will be fine. Oil soaks in, unless you're heavy-handed. I use coconut and sometimes castor on my ends because my hair is naturally dry.


I don't see where you get that Vermelha is saying that oil soaks in for EVERYONE or that oil works for EVERYONE when she explicitly says "it all depends on your hair" and "if heavy products don't really bother your hair".

It's fine to point out that oiling doesn't work FOR YOUR HAIR and IN YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. But I don't see the need to go bashing on another LHCer for saying things that they never even said...

[chopandchange]

I'm not sure who peed in your corn flakes this morning, but you're a bit off-base here, IMO. You left out a significant part of Vermelha's post, which makes your statement here to be out of line:

I don't see where you get that Vermelha is saying that oil soaks in for EVERYONE or that oil works for EVERYONE when she explicitly says "it all depends on your hair" and "if heavy products don't really bother your hair".

It's fine to point out that oiling doesn't work FOR YOUR HAIR and IN YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. But I don't see the need to go bashing on another LHCer for saying things that they never even said...

Em excuse me, where did all this weird aggression come from? :confused:

I am not "bashing on another LHCer" as you strangely put it. I was merely pointing out that one of the person's statements was not necessarily true in the case of all hair types, that's all. I was trying to prevent the OP from going home and slathering their oil in hair, only to come back on the boards and have do do a post saying "help! how do I wash this oil out?"

I left out the rest of her post because there's no point in clogging up a thread by quoting whole posts unnecessarily. The rest of it is sound universal advice and I saw no need to comment on it. I appreciate that the person said "it all depends on your hair" and if heavy products don't really bother your hair" and those statements are true, which is why I didn't bother to quote them. I merely quoted the statement which is not universal: oil soaks in.

If you check the threads about oil I am sure you will find I am not the only person on LHC who has found that oil does not "soak in" (and it's not a question of amounts - it can be a tiny bit or a lot; the amount is irrelevant when it comes to porosity) so this is not about right versus wrong. It's about collective wisdom, different hair types, and cuationing a newbie from ruining their weekend by turning themself into an oil slick. ;)

So. I was only trying to help, and for some reason you jump in and tell me I'm "bashing."

?????????????

Seems like you are the one bashing me.


I'll turn the question around: who peed in your cornflakes? :eyebrows:

[GRU]

On an unrelated note, today is the 105th birthday of corn flakes. They were invented by W. K. Kellogg on this day in 1906. :D

[Raekwon]

:confused:

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what it is you're asking about.... are you trying to get your hair like the pictures at the beginning of the thread, or like the picture in this most recent post, or like something else altogether?

The hair I posted at the beginning of the thread is mine, I'm talking about how do I get my hair like the most recent post which was just 2 above yours. :)





Regarding your hair wrapping around the comb like vines:

I know exactly what you mean and I know why it happens.

That happens to me when I am combing too fast or impatiently, and without realising it I have lifted the comb back up to start a new stroke before finishing the previous one. DO NOT DO THIS! LOL. It's not worth it. More haste, less speed. Don't start a new stroke with the comb until it has reached the bottom of your hair and is completely free and clear of hair.

And if that's not the reason it's happening, I'm stumped! I can't think of any other reason why your hair would wrap itself around the comb.

Oh I see now. Thanks for that lol. Now that I think of it I guess it's true, I do try to comb my hair as fast as possible.



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As for the 'fighting' or 'quarreling'- or whatever y'all want to call it- could you both please end it? :p Thanks. :)

[chopandchange]

On an unrelated note, today is the 105th birthday of corn flakes. They were invented by W. K. Kellogg on this day in 1906. :D

How nice.

Is what why you decided to pee in them?


Raekwon, if that's what you were doing with your comb, it all makes sense! Just slow down and the wrapping like vines will be no more!

[Raekwon]

So do y'all know how I can get my hair to be like this?





Instead of making a new Thread, I decided to bump this one.

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i447/davidcarby/Ponytail/2010102.jpg







Question: is it possible to get my hair like that?






if so, how would i do it

[chopandchange]

Is that you in the pic? :confused: I'm not following...If it's you, then surely you must know how you did it?

I would say it looks as though you would need to make a ponytail and slick down the part on your scalp with some product, to make it flat and shiny. Then comb the ponytail itself with a very fine-toothed comb, until it spreads out into a nice soft cloud like in the picture.

[Raekwon]

:lol: No that is not me. My hair is waist length. Which very fine-toothed comb would y'all recommend? I have these in my *collection* (lol) for now:



http://i.imgur.com/6RU97.jpg



I also have a large paddle brush but my mom is in her room using it so I can't take a picture of it.

[chopandchange]

Oh I see. Well, the person in the picture looks like they have very curly hair which they just combed out. When you brush or comb very curly hair, it does that naturally I think. It goes poof. If your hair is not naturally curly enough to go all poofy when you comb it, you could try teasing/backcombing it. I'm not suggesting you do, because I think it's very damaging to hair to backcomb it. I'm only saying you could! Hypothetically! At your own risk! LOL It's not something you'd want to do every day if you want to keep your hair healthy.