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lyssymae
September 26th, 2010, 11:29 AM
I think what I have might just be lots of random splits but I'm really not sure:confused:. It almost looks like frizz. Is there any ideas out there how to fix it or help try to fix it or at least make it look better?!:pray:

mali
September 26th, 2010, 01:07 PM
The only way to get rid of split ends is too cut them off.I know it's really not ...pleasant.Or,you can you use a shampoo with silicones,which coates the hair and for a short period makes the ends look normal.But I don't really recomend it.:poot:

lyssymae
September 26th, 2010, 01:11 PM
The only way to get rid of split ends is too cut them off.I know it's really not ...pleasant.Or,you can you use a shampoo with silicones,which coates the hair and for a short period makes the ends look normal.But I don't really recomend it.:poot:



I don't know if this is what you mean (I hope its not!)...but I don't just have splits on the end, its kinda all over. I call 'em break-offs, as technical as that sounds...

Khepri
September 26th, 2010, 01:30 PM
I'm currently wrestling with the same problem. How long is your hair? Mine is BSL, and I think all of the split ends/breakage is being caused by my hair rubbing against clothes. I recently trimmed about an inch off, and I try to keep it in protective styles all the time now. Not fun, I know, but until it grows out of this dangerous friction zone, I'm going to keep it up.
Maybe try it out for a while and see if that helps to improve your breakage.

lyssymae
September 26th, 2010, 01:35 PM
I'm currently wrestling with the same problem. How long is your hair? Mine is BSL, and I think all of the split ends/breakage is being caused by my hair rubbing against clothes. I recently trimmed about an inch off, and I try to keep it in protective styles all the time now. Not fun, I know, but until it grows out of this dangerous friction zone, I'm going to keep it up.
Maybe try it out for a while and see if that helps to improve your breakage.


Mines BSL too. Right now I'm trying to find out how to do a bun with... hair sticks? I think your idea about the friction is probably true. Safety first when it comes to hair I guess!

spidermom
September 26th, 2010, 02:07 PM
If you've got lots of shorter hairs sticking out at various lengths, some of it may be breakage, but most of it will be new hairs. Every day hairs shed out. Every day hairs grow in. You will always have lots of lengths.

Qwackie
September 26th, 2010, 02:25 PM
My splits are caused by bleaching. -sadface-
I'm holding them off with some coney conditioner, and when my hair grows longer, at least APL, I'm cutting them off. I would S&D now, but my scissors are bad and are making them worse. (And I'm barber paranoid, so I'm not letting anyone cut my already really short hair.)

ktani
September 26th, 2010, 02:27 PM
I think what I have might just be lots of random splits but I'm really not sure:confused:. It almost looks like frizz. Is there any ideas out there how to fix it or help try to fix it or at least make it look better?!:pray:

This may help, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showpost.php?p=1270531&postcount=3991.

Silicones are not evil, http://ktanihairsense.blogspot.com/2010/09/debunking-silicone-myth-in-hair-care.html.

swivelhop
September 26th, 2010, 03:56 PM
I love that chart! Now I'm going to try to read runes in my splits.

ktani
September 26th, 2010, 04:07 PM
I love that chart! Now I'm going to try to read runes in my splits.

Yeah, I thought it was more educational and comprehensive than electron microscope photos.

Runes, love it, lol.

mali
September 26th, 2010, 04:09 PM
I don't know if this is what you mean (I hope its not!)...but I don't just have splits on the end, its kinda all over. I call 'em break-offs, as technical as that sounds...

Well it may seem ...sad but if you don't cut your hair,the damage will get higher and higher.:(

lyssymae
September 26th, 2010, 04:39 PM
Well it may seem ...sad but if you don't cut your hair,the damage will get higher and higher.:(


Is there a way to save 'em? Can I just smooth 'em down and let them grow out?:run:

ktani
September 26th, 2010, 04:48 PM
Is there a way to save 'em? Can I just smooth 'em down and let them grow out?:run:

You do not have to cut all or most of your hair off. Breathe.

Split ends will tell you where they are on your hair by catching on other hairs. S&D (search and destroy) the ones that cause problems (snip off the split just above it with sharp hair scissors). Reduce dryness. Figure out the rougher parts of your hair routine that may be contributing to the problem. Clarify your hair if necessary.

You need to make a list of the things you can change to help eliminate the causes of the problem.

lyssymae
September 26th, 2010, 05:00 PM
You do not have to cut all or most of your hair off. Breathe.

Split ends will tell you where they are on your hair by catching on other hairs. S&D (search and destroy) the ones that cause problems. Reduce dryness. Figure out the rougher parts of your hair routine that may be contributing to the problem. Clarify your hair if necessary.

You need to make a list of the things you can change to help eliminate the causes of the problem.

Deep breath in, slowly exhale out:meditate:. What your suggesting sounds a little bit better. In fact, a lot better. I've just joined LHC, so my hair hasn't even really begun what I hope will be a miraculous transformation. And now I know hopefully what to do if the keeps comin' up. At least now I don't have to start all over:scissors:

ktani
September 26th, 2010, 05:06 PM
Deep breath in, slowly exhale out:meditate:. What your suggesting sounds a little bit better. In fact, a lot better. I've just joined LHC, so my hair hasn't even really begun what I hope will be a miraculous transformation. And now I know hopefully what to do if the keeps comin' up. At least now I don't have to start all over:scissors:

You and your hair will be just fine. One step at a time.

And welcome to LHC!

lyssymae
September 26th, 2010, 05:21 PM
You and your hair will be just fine. One step at a time.

And welcome to LHC!


Thanks! And just about 5 minutes ago my hair was practically yanked out by a friend attempting a bun. I don't need bald spots yet!:afro:(And yes I do look like that :))

ktani
September 26th, 2010, 05:26 PM
Thanks! And just about 5 minutes ago my hair was practically yanked out by a friend attempting a bun. I don't need bald spots yet!:afro:(And yes I do look like that :))

Many of us here have been where you are now at some point. You will need patience. It can be done though. You can have the long hair you want. It will take time. You can do it.

ETA: Start by listening to your hair, literally. I do not mean that it will talk to you, lol. You will however, become accustomed to sounds. You can hear hair tear when a comb or brush rips through it. If you squeeze you ends next to your ear and they sound "crunchy" like breakfast cereal before milk makes it soggy, your ends are dry.

If when you go to smooth out your hair or while washing it you get tangles in the same place, you problably have hair(s) that need trimming, not necessarily at the hemline. Find the culpret(s) and snip of the individual ones that have white dots along the shaft or are split. Be kind to the others.

lyssymae
September 26th, 2010, 05:39 PM
Many of us here have been where you are now at some point. You will need patience. It can be done though. You can have the long hair you want. It will take time. You can do it.


Patience is right! I look back and see what I did wrong now. Which was most everything. By the way, you could be a motivational speaker, 'cause you rock :D

ktani
September 26th, 2010, 05:41 PM
Patience is right! I look back and see what I did wrong now. Which was most everything. By the way, you could be a motivational speaker, 'cause you rock :D

Thank you! You obviously did not do everything wrong because your hair is growing and it is long enough to put up.

I just added an ETA to my last post for you.

Qwackie
September 26th, 2010, 06:13 PM
Oi, try using some of this conditioner. It doesn't fix then, but it smooths the shaft and helps prevent more. I've been using it for a few months, and it works pretty good.
http://hocks.com/hocks-healthcare/hocks-product/A309674.html?gdftrk=gdfV2160_a_7c199_a_7c468_a_7cA 309674
I got mine at Wal-Mart for about thirty cents.

lyssymae
September 26th, 2010, 06:30 PM
Many of us here have been where you are now at some point. You will need patience. It can be done though. You can have the long hair you want. It will take time. You can do it.

ETA: Start by listening to your hair, literally. I do not mean that it will talk to you, lol. You will however, become accustomed to sounds. You can hear hair tear when a comb or brush rips through it. If you squeeze you ends next to your ear and they sound "crunchy" like breakfast cereal before milk makes it soggy, your ends are dry.

If when you go to smooth out your hair or while washing it you get tangles in the same place, you problably have hair(s) that need trimming, not necessarily at the hemline. Find the culpret(s) and snip of the individual ones that have white dots along the shaft or are split. Be kind to the others.


Oh my goodness! I can totally hear hairs ripping when I comb through. I HATE that sound. It makes my scalp hurt and it makes me want to cry knowing that I'm harming the little hair I've got!:(

ktani
September 26th, 2010, 06:55 PM
Oh my goodness! I can totally hear hairs ripping when I comb through. I HATE that sound. It makes my scalp hurt and it makes me want to cry knowing that I'm harming the little hair I've got!:(

You need to stop doing that starting now. It will be OK. Someone here with incredible hair did that recently with a brush. One small step starts a journey.

I have not used a comb or brush in years. I gently separate my hair with my hands and it is tangle free. You do not need to do what I do or use on my hair. You have to find what your hair needs and you prefer.

You can buy seemless combs, wide toothed ones and regular ones. Kent combs are seemless and available in department stores. The Body Shop sells a wide toothed wooden one. Start combing if you do from the hemline up, gently, not from the scalp down.

You never said whether your hair is processed, colour-treated etc.

You need to consider its state in order to choose the right conventional products if that is the route you decide to go.

Keep asking questions here and let people here know what you are doing to your hair. It helps those trying to help you to know details.

More tips in an article linked here, http://ktanihairsense.blogspot.com/2010/09/debunking-silicone-myth-in-hair-care.html. My full blog is at the end of each of my posts.

lyssymae
September 26th, 2010, 09:41 PM
You need to stop doing that starting now. It will be OK. Someone here with incredible hair did that recently with a brush. One small step starts a journey.

I have not used a comb or brush in years. I gently separate my hair with my hands and it is tangle free. You do not need to do what I do or use on my hair. You have to find what your hair needs and you prefer.

You can buy seemless combs, wide toothed ones and regular ones. Kent combs are seemless and available in department stores. The Body Shop sells a wide toothed wooden one. Start combing if you do from the hemline up, gently, not from the scalp down.

You never said whether your hair is processed, colour-treated etc.

You need to consider its state in order to choose the right conventional products if that is the route you decide to go.

Keep asking questions here and let people here know what you are doing to your hair. It helps those trying to help you to know details.

More tips in an article linked here, http://ktanihairsense.blogspot.com/2010/09/debunking-silicone-myth-in-hair-care.html. My full blog is at the end of each of my posts.


I hop I'm not just piling my problems on you! My hair has never been color-treated, but about four years ago I stopped blowfrying and using curling irons on my hair. I've been combing and brushing it wrong for years I figured out!:( One last question then I'll finally leave you alone:)! Is braiding better or worse for your hair? Thanks!

ktani
September 26th, 2010, 10:27 PM
I hop I'm not just piling my problems on you! My hair has never been color-treated, but about four years ago I stopped blowfrying and using curling irons on my hair. I've been combing and brushing it wrong for years I figured out!:( One last question then I'll finally leave you alone:)! Is braiding better or worse for your hair? Thanks!

You are not "piling your problems" on me. I chose to post in this thread, to try to help you and ask you questions. I choose to reply or not.

I used to comb my hair wrong too. And my hair paid the price.

It is great that you stopped heat styling regularly. With protectants and occassional use, that is not so terrible.

Braiding is great. It can help protect the hair by keeping it from tangling.

Please feel free to ask all the questions you want here. I for one, will reply to you.

lyssymae
September 26th, 2010, 10:36 PM
You are not "piling your problems" on me. I chose to post in this thread, to try to help you and ask you questions. I choose to reply or not.

I used to comb my hair wrong too. And my hair paid the price.

It is great that you stopped heat styling regularly. With protectants and occassional use, that is not so terrible.

Braiding is great. It can help protect the hair by keeping it from tangling.

Please feel free to ask all the questions you want here. I for one, will reply to you.


I know who I'm nominating for best member of the year!:D ONE more question. Where do you find "hair safe" hair ties, or hair bands...whatever they're called. I'd like to keep my hair in a braid, can't keep it together!

ktani
September 26th, 2010, 10:54 PM
I know who I'm nominating for best member of the year!:D ONE more question. Where do you find "hair safe" hair ties, or hair bands...whatever they're called. I'd like to keep my hair in a braid, can't keep it together!

There are many members here who help out. You will see that the more you post in other threads and your own.

I do not use hair ties. I hold my hair up with a roller pin, http://haircare.guidestobuy.com/jumbo-bob-hair-pins-40-counts-roller-pin-brown-roller-pins. I find it the most comfortable. I "painted it" with Sally Hansen Teflon Tuff nair hardener to keep it from rusting and losing its finish. I do have a collection of hair ties though. I bought mine at dollar stores, drugstores, many places.

Look for those without a metal piece, made of smooth material to not rough up hair cuticles, with and without elastic (covered if with elastic). There are all kinds in all sizes and prices.

I am not limiting you to a number of questions.

torrilin
September 27th, 2010, 05:38 AM
Oh my goodness! I can totally hear hairs ripping when I comb through. I HATE that sound. It makes my scalp hurt and it makes me want to cry knowing that I'm harming the little hair I've got!:(

If you hear stuff, yes... bad.

Finding hair on your comb or brush is not bad tho, and does not automatically mean you're ripping your hair out. We all shed hair every day. For some people, it's easy to get all the shed hairs out with finger combing, or they do really just fall out. For others, the shed strands will start wrapping around other hairs and cause really nasty tangles. If your hair is the nasty tangle sort, you may need tools to help you detangle.

If you look closely at your shed hairs, you can learn to see what healthy hair structure looks like. There should be a little "ball" end that used to be rooted in the follicle, and the other end should be pretty smooth. Really, given how tiny our hairs are, if you can see anything on your shed hairs where the shaft isn't perfectly smooth... that's a bad sign. That's how I learned to see split ends really.

And yes, my take on split ends is to just cut them off. On my hair they do travel, and the split pieces will attempt to wrap around other hairs, and they especially like to form death grips with other splits. I only schedule a trim when my splits have gotten out of control. Most years, that's every 3-6 months. If I don't have the tell-tale tangling and visible splits... I won't get it cut.