Waist | Hip | BCL | Tailbone

[Finda]

Ehi, I... I actually think I could call it bcl now. I checked several times but it seems so unreal that I think I'll give it at least one week to decide/realize.

That sounds great!


Yeah. My hair grows so unevenly!! Annoyed at the fact I did trim it so it was more straight but it grew all uneven!! Aaaaaaa

Is this after the trim? It doesn't look uneven to me and the color is great!

[Sammich]

It was trimmed on the 8th and it was even then but now it’s all everywhere. :( why does my hair have to grow so unevenly! I give up on trimming haha.

Thank you.

[Finda]

My sides also grow faster than the middle. It's totally annoying to me as well. I'm more and more thinking I will even everything after the no trim challenge.

[Simpscone]

Yeah. My hair grows so unevenly!! Annoyed at the fact I did trim it so it was more straight but it grew all uneven!! Aaaaaaa

Also dyed my hair midnight blue directions but you can’t really tell, ah well. It’s all one colour now and I’m happy with that.https://i.imgur.com/6of8a8E.jpg

It looks good to me! Loving the colour too :inlove:

[Jools69]

It was trimmed on the 8th and it was even then but now it’s all everywhere. :( why does my hair have to grow so unevenly! I give up on trimming haha.

Thank you.

I feel your pain. I have a double crown and it’s more wavy on one side. So, even though I follow the self trimming instructions, I still have it shorter on one side! :rolleyes:

I think you’ve done a good job trimming and dyeing your hair! :)

[Sammich]

It looks good to me! Loving the colour too :inlove:

Thank you. The colour was meant to have a blue tinge but I think it needs actual sunlight to show up! Damn England! :p


I feel your pain. I have a double crown and it’s more wavy on one side. So, even though I follow the self trimming instructions, I still have it shorter on one side! :rolleyes:

I think you’ve done a good job trimming and dyeing your hair! :)
Yes I do fayes self trimming and I wonder if I’ve got the same problem, I don’t know what a double crown looks like. I think my hair just grows longer on one side than the other though since I swear it was a proper v shape!! :p Aha!! I found a picture of the hair after it’s trim! I knew it was kinda okay!

https://i.imgur.com/KLXWo5N.jpg

Looking at how uneven my hair grew from those previous pics I put and it’s crazy. At least my hair grows fast I guess?

Thank you for that, that’s very sweet. It was a huge effort dying so much hair, took so long, I don’t think I’ll do that again honestly! The mess, the dye in the bathtub... blah.

[lapushka]

It's honestly shocking how much hair I have on my head with how much I shed :lol:

Thankfully this is the longest I've ever had my hair, so I'm pretty content with however long it takes to grow from here on out - as long as I don't have to cut shorter than waist again, for now I'm just cruising on down 8)

Sorry for just up and reacting to this comment, out of the blue, but... I shed bucket loads on wash day. Like a palm full before the wash, about a palm full during, and again a palm full after it comes out the towel, when I detangle pre-styling products. But then on Monday evening I don't lose anything, yeah like maybe 1 to 2 hairs, seriously. Then when I finger detangle at night as of Tuesday the cycle slowly starts up again of hair falling out more and more as the week progresses (I weekly wash).

It's odd; and I'm a iii too.

[foreveryours]

Sheds seem random. I went thru a major shed in December. Daily combouts yielded wads of hair. Maybe crash diet over the Fall (I lost 25 pounds!)? Steroid injection for an ankle injury? "Hypothyroidism"? I had my hormone dose increased to 150ug early in the Fall (TSH 6), had another blood test in mid December and you what? TSH was 24! Made absolutely no sense. Repeat testing last month showed I'm closer to fine now. Docs don't know wtf. Still a mess but I'm not shedding much, at the moment. :p

[Bri-Chan]

Maybe show a new photo and ask around?

I think it would be hard to see with my usual clothes. Anyway I'll check again during the weekend (with straighter hair pre-wash day) and I'll decide.

[Bat]

I think it would be hard to see with my usual clothes. Anyway I'll check again during the weekend (with straighter hair pre-wash day) and I'll decide.

You can do the hand thing putting your hands where BCL is for you at see if your hair touches your hands

[Simpscone]

Sorry for just up and reacting to this comment, out of the blue, but... I shed bucket loads on wash day. Like a palm full before the wash, about a palm full during, and again a palm full after it comes out the towel, when I detangle pre-styling products. But then on Monday evening I don't lose anything, yeah like maybe 1 to 2 hairs, seriously. Then when I finger detangle at night as of Tuesday the cycle slowly starts up again of hair falling out more and more as the week progresses (I weekly wash).

It's odd; and I'm a iii too.

When I was heavily into the online curly-girl community I saw a lot of people saying that since you switch to not brushing/combing your shed hairs throughout the week just keep hanging out in your hair until you detangle whilst washing. Makes complete sense but still seems like a crazy amount of hair to lose each week!

[Bri-Chan]

You can do the hand thing putting your hands where BCL is for you at see if your hair touches your hands
Mh that's an idea... I also thought to just check under the shower but I've having some troubles with water temperature and I'm washing it in the sink lately. I could also check the length. I mean I did it, but I don't know why I don't feel like I'm truly there... Maybe it's just a sensation.

[Bat]

Mh that's an idea... I also thought to just check under the shower but I've having some troubles with water temperature and I'm washing it in the sink lately. I could also check the length. I mean I did it, but I don't know why I don't feel like I'm truly there... Maybe it's just a sensation.

Maybe it's cause you feel your hair is still short and BCL used to be a long to you in the past maybe? Have you had hair this long before?

[Belgrade Beauty]

Mh that's an idea... I also thought to just check under the shower but I've having some troubles with water temperature and I'm washing it in the sink lately. I could also check the length. I mean I did it, but I don't know why I don't feel like I'm truly there... Maybe it's just a sensation.

It’s weird when you hit the goal. It’s like, is this it? It doesn’t look what I expected it would look like. But if that is in fact the goal you’ll hit the next milestone in a heart beat :) did you measure ?

[ipickee]

Sheds seem random. I went thru a major shed in December. Daily combouts yielded wads of hair. Maybe crash diet over the Fall (I lost 25 pounds!)? Steroid injection for an ankle injury? "Hypothyroidism"? I had my hormone dose increased to 150ug early in the Fall (TSH 6), had another blood test in mid December and you what? TSH was 24! Made absolutely no sense. Repeat testing last month showed I'm closer to fine now. Docs don't know wtf. Still a mess but I'm not shedding much, at the moment. :p

I totally feel this comment. Thyroids are almost just evil.
Mine has been toying with me for years.

[Sammich]

I remember when I didn’t brush my hair for weeks and then when I did huge chunks of hair would be out in my brush, freaked me out but I think it’s normal especially when you aren’t brushing as a curly wurly.

[Bri-Chan]

Maybe it's cause you feel your hair is still short and BCL used to be a long to you in the past maybe? Have you had hair this long before?


It’s weird when you hit the goal. It’s like, is this it? It doesn’t look what I expected it would look like. But if that is in fact the goal you’ll hit the next milestone in a heart beat :) did you measure ?

The only time my hair was this long was 2 months ago before my trim. For sure my hair is still short to me, but I feel like when I was at bcl before my trim, with thinner ends I felt it more like at bcl than now.
I measured and I should be there (bcl at 93 cm). In fact, I don't know why I still don't realize. I'll measure again on wash day (so straight hair) on the weekend.

[lapushka]

When I was heavily into the online curly-girl community I saw a lot of people saying that since you switch to not brushing/combing your shed hairs throughout the week just keep hanging out in your hair until you detangle whilst washing. Makes complete sense but still seems like a crazy amount of hair to lose each week!

I know, right?! It puzzles me that I still have hair on my head. :lol:

[foreveryours]

I totally feel this comment. Thyroids are almost just evil.
Mine has been toying with me for years.

You got that right. I've been wrestling mine for nearly half my adult life.

[Bri-Chan]

So, I ended up washing today, before my wash-day (I was soooo curious about a new shampoo ahah. I'm loving it so far) so I measured again and again. And I decided to call it. Finally, BCL.
I also found a spot to take better photos by myself (maybe). So:

https://i.imgur.com/NgxQeqm.jpg?1

The waves eat more than an inch today. Compared to the last time I took a photo, it's going better. I'm basically changing the amount of conditioner I use. It seems to like just a little bit of rinse out conditioner/mask but a big amount of leave in conditioner :confused:

[knobbly]

So, I ended up washing today, before my wash-day (I was soooo curious about a new shampoo ahah. I'm loving it so far) so I measured again and again. And I decided to call it. Finally, BCL.
I also found a spot to take better photos by myself (maybe). So:

https://i.imgur.com/NgxQeqm.jpg?1

The waves eat more than an inch today. Compared to the last time I took a photo, it's going better. I'm basically changing the amount of conditioner I use. It seems to like just a little bit of rinse out conditioner/mask but a big amount of leave in conditioner :confused:

So pretty Bri-Chan!!!! Your waves are so romantic. :crush:

[draysmir]

Congratulations on reaching BCL, Bri-Chan. :D I am jealous of your waves!

[Lyanna]

So, I ended up washing today, before my wash-day (I was soooo curious about a new shampoo ahah. I'm loving it so far) so I measured again and again. And I decided to call it. Finally, BCL.
I also found a spot to take better photos by myself (maybe). So:

https://i.imgur.com/NgxQeqm.jpg?1

The waves eat more than an inch today. Compared to the last time I took a photo, it's going better. I'm basically changing the amount of conditioner I use. It seems to like just a little bit of rinse out conditioner/mask but a big amount of leave in conditioner :confused:

Your hair is so gorgeous! This is such a beautiful length too, I can't wait to join this thread once I hit waist in a bit :o

[JasminxCat]

So, I ended up washing today, before my wash-day (I was soooo curious about a new shampoo ahah. I'm loving it so far) so I measured again and again. And I decided to call it. Finally, BCL.
I also found a spot to take better photos by myself (maybe). So:

https://i.imgur.com/NgxQeqm.jpg?1

The waves eat more than an inch today. Compared to the last time I took a photo, it's going better. I'm basically changing the amount of conditioner I use. It seems to like just a little bit of rinse out conditioner/mask but a big amount of leave in conditioner :confused:

Beautiful! :crush:
I can see the difference, your waves look more unified now. I'm glad you found something that works for you. I don't have wavy hair but I use a lot of leave in too to tame frizz and knotting

[baanoo]

So, I ended up washing today, before my wash-day (I was soooo curious about a new shampoo ahah. I'm loving it so far) so I measured again and again. And I decided to call it. Finally, BCL.
I also found a spot to take better photos by myself (maybe). So:

https://i.imgur.com/NgxQeqm.jpg?1

The waves eat more than an inch today. Compared to the last time I took a photo, it's going better. I'm basically changing the amount of conditioner I use. It seems to like just a little bit of rinse out conditioner/mask but a big amount of leave in conditioner :confused:
Gorgeous, Bri! Your waves look so pretty & I’m excited for you hitting bcl. :)

[cestlavie]

Congrats Bri! It looks amazing!

[Simpscone]

So, I ended up washing today, before my wash-day (I was soooo curious about a new shampoo ahah. I'm loving it so far) so I measured again and again. And I decided to call it. Finally, BCL.
I also found a spot to take better photos by myself (maybe). So:

https://i.imgur.com/NgxQeqm.jpg?1

The waves eat more than an inch today. Compared to the last time I took a photo, it's going better. I'm basically changing the amount of conditioner I use. It seems to like just a little bit of rinse out conditioner/mask but a big amount of leave in conditioner :confused:

Congratulations on BCL! Your waves are a dream :flower:

[Tinyponies]

Congrats on BCL Bri. It looks absolutely lovely. :)

[Bri-Chan]

Thank you all for the nice words, you make me blush :crush:

[Finda]

Mh that's an idea... I also thought to just check under the shower but I've having some troubles with water temperature and I'm washing it in the sink lately. I could also check the length. I mean I did it, but I don't know why I don't feel like I'm truly there... Maybe it's just a sensation.

I have some trouble with my shower and can't use it until it has been repaired. So last night I washed my hair in the sink for the first times in probably 20 years. Whenever I bend over my hair tangles terribly, especially the hair close to the scalp so it took longer to detangle, but overall it was surprisingly okay. Luckily my kitchen sink has a hose, so that made it easier.


So, I ended up washing today, before my wash-day (I was soooo curious about a new shampoo ahah. I'm loving it so far) so I measured again and again. And I decided to call it. Finally, BCL.
I also found a spot to take better photos by myself (maybe). So:

https://i.imgur.com/NgxQeqm.jpg?1

The waves eat more than an inch today. Compared to the last time I took a photo, it's going better. I'm basically changing the amount of conditioner I use. It seems to like just a little bit of rinse out conditioner/mask but a big amount of leave in conditioner :confused:

Your hair looks very beautiful!

[Bri-Chan]

I have some trouble with my shower and can't use it until it has been repaired. So last night I washed my hair in the sink for the first times in probably 20 years. Whenever I bend over my hair tangles terribly, especially the hair close to the scalp so it took longer to detangle, but overall it was surprisingly okay. Luckily my kitchen sink has a hose, so that made it easier.



Your hair looks very beautiful!

Thank you! I find washing my hair in the sink very boring, but for now it's the best option.

[Belgrade Beauty]

Bri,it looks amazing!!!!! And such lovely waves!! I’m so happy for you honey!

[Bri-Chan]

Bri,it looks amazing!!!!! And such lovely waves!! I’m so happy for you honey!

Thank you :blossom:

[shaluwm_agape]

It's been a really long time since I posted here I've been lurking just haven't been in the mood to share but I am in between hip and TBL now and I'm excited to actually post a pic finally
https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44615&d=1614474692
Hoping to get to tailbone by May
Beautiful hair everyone!

[Bri-Chan]

Beautiful hair shaluwm_agape!

[shaluwm_agape]

Bri-Chan Thank you!

[cestlavie]

It's been a really long time since I posted here I've been lurking just haven't been in the mood to share but I am in between hip and TBL now and I'm excited to actually post a pic finally
https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44615&d=1614474692
Hoping to get to tailbone by May
Beautiful hair everyone!

Very pretty and nice full hemline!

[Finda]

shaluwm_agape, I second cestlavie, very pretty and full hemline were my thoughts as well. Also, totally OT, but I really like the decoration of the room!

[shaluwm_agape]

Thanks ladies!
cestlavie i absolutely love your hair!
thank you for the compliment
Finda thank you! And thanks yes this is one of the nicer rooms in the house LOL

[cestlavie]

Thanks ladies!
cestlavie i absolutely love your hair!
thank you for the compliment
Finda thank you! And thanks yes this is one of the nicer rooms in the house LOL

Thank you! :D

[baanoo]

Wow, shaluwm! Your hair never ceases to amaze me - it’s gorgeous. 😍😍

[shaluwm_agape]

Baanoo thank you so much for the compliment that means a lot!
I love seeing yours too!

[knobbly]

shaluwm_agape your hair is so lovely! :crush:

I finally took some progress shots today myself! I figure it’s the last time I’ll be able to in awhile, since baby’s due date is 3/10 :shocked: and I could basically go into labor anytime now.

https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44627&d=1614619962

And here is my last pic, from the end of November:

https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=43569&d=1606763879

In both pics, my shirt’s hem is right at BCL. So I guess it is growing!! :lol:

[shaluwm_agape]

Knobbly its gorgeous!

[pisinoe]

Still in the hip to TBL abyss

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801610826016096261/816037506847998022/image0.jpg

[Belgrade Beauty]

Oh boy :envy pants on: !!! You girls have such an amazing thickness every time I see I’m dumbfounded ❤️

[pisinoe]

Just adding this other picture I took when I pulled the dress back a bit more and my aunt took another pic:

https://scontent.ffor7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/148898963_341774300357960_7516774126500898730_n.jp g?_nc_cat=103&ccb=3&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_eui2=AeGWb7ob3D-hJBQz02NJ8Jo_T6P7PyBg4rdPo_s_IGDit0lGdSXFkRBUXZ5zi 6YE07nhd4lOPFOWUs17IYkW9XIp&_nc_ohc=O-BIcSPeEZAAX-KNaBO&_nc_ht=scontent.ffor7-1.fna&oh=b2e969bdbcb202e5e20348515006e985&oe=60491CCE

I think it's more true to the growth.

I have covid right now so I can’t ask anyone to measure my hair or be close to me.

I’m going to compare bangs growth then since it’s easier for me.

29/01

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/567903331264102410/816041841471520788/image0.jpg

After a month (today)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/567903331264102410/816041902196916274/image0.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/567903331264102410/816042256167075870/image0.jpg

I guess that’s around 3cm of growth or more.

[Finda]

knobbly That looks great! I wish you all the best for the upcoming birth! :)

Pisinoe Beautiful as usual! And I hope you will have a speedy recovery!

[Bri-Chan]

You all did great progresses!
Pisionoe how are you? I hope you recover soon!

[baanoo]

Pisinoe, all my best wishes for a very quick recovery!!


shaluwm_agape your hair is so lovely! :crush:

I finally took some progress shots today myself! I figure it’s the last time I’ll be able to in awhile, since baby’s due date is 3/10 :shocked: and I could basically go into labor anytime now.

https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44627&d=1614619962

And here is my last pic, from the end of November:

https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=43569&d=1606763879

In both pics, my shirt’s hem is right at BCL. So I guess it is growing!! :lol:

It is and is looking great! Excited for the newest one to arrive ❤️❤️

[knobbly]

Thank you everyone!! I love this thread and how supportive everyone is. :crush:

baanoo I am so SO done and judging by the punches I’m feeling on my cervix and kicks to my rib cage and spleen, the kidlet is also done!! Hopefully soon!!

[pisinoe]

Thank you Finda, baanoo and Bri-chan for the well wishes. I really appreciate it.

Closer than ever yet still so far away......

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/567899636732526612/816401898860970024/image0.jpg

[spirals]

It's beautiful!

[amiraaah]

haven’t posted in a while but today i felt like brushing my curls to see how close i am to tailbone length and i’m so close now :cheer:

https://i.postimg.cc/hthDRyTJ/0-C9-ACBC6-AC66-4-EA6-8-FD4-723187-A28596.jpg (https://postimg.cc/K1SSn59F)

[maborosi]

amiraaah you are so close!
pisinoe You'll get there in no time!! ^^

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I haven't actually taken length shots of my hair in over 2 years now (sob), but I'm currently at hip (34.5") and I think I hit TBL around 38", so I should maybe make it this year. :P
But I managed to get my husband to take a picture of my hair for me, and it is very interesting to compare my hair at 34.5" today to when it was at 34" in 2015. It looks much healthier this time, IMO.

In 2015, it looked like this at 34". (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kwVUErM-vaY/Vcw3eAJGDYI/AAAAAAAAANw/4YkQ8Jc6LLA/s1600/2015-8.jpg)

Today @ 34.5":
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-55UaigKOQrU/YEUkM_Xkt9I/AAAAAAAAAxo/1y8f8yqaqToT99anYD6r4Gl5nWTctazGACLcBGAsYHQ/s1504/2021-3.jpg

[Belgrade Beauty]

amiraaah you are so close!
pisinoe You'll get there in no time!! ^^

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I haven't actually taken length shots of my hair in over 2 years now (sob), but I'm currently at hip (34.5") and I think I hit TBL around 38", so I should maybe make it this year. :P
But I managed to get my husband to take a picture of my hair for me, and it is very interesting to compare my hair at 34.5" today to when it was at 34" in 2015. It looks much healthier this time, IMO.

In 2015, it looked like this at 34". (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kwVUErM-vaY/Vcw3eAJGDYI/AAAAAAAAANw/4YkQ8Jc6LLA/s1600/2015-8.jpg)

Today @ 34.5":
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-55UaigKOQrU/YEUkM_Xkt9I/AAAAAAAAAxo/1y8f8yqaqToT99anYD6r4Gl5nWTctazGACLcBGAsYHQ/s1504/2021-3.jpg
Tbh it looks amazing on both pics :)

[shaluwm_agape]

Sitting here in awe :crush:

[baanoo]

Closer than ever yet still so far away......



Sooo pretty!!


haven’t posted in a while but today i felt like brushing my curls to see how close i am to tailbone length and i’m so close now :cheer:



Amiraaah! :thud: Your hair is a dream!



amiraaah you are so close!
pisinoe You'll get there in no time!! ^^

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I haven't actually taken length shots of my hair in over 2 years now (sob), but I'm currently at hip (34.5") and I think I hit TBL around 38", so I should maybe make it this year. :P
But I managed to get my husband to take a picture of my hair for me, and it is very interesting to compare my hair at 34.5" today to when it was at 34" in 2015. It looks much healthier this time, IMO.

In 2015, it looked like this at 34". (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kwVUErM-vaY/Vcw3eAJGDYI/AAAAAAAAANw/4YkQ8Jc6LLA/s1600/2015-8.jpg)

Today @ 34.5":


Oh, it is gorgeous!


Sitting here in awe :crush:
My sentiments exactly.

[Belgrade Beauty]

I don’t know if i asked this before but I genuinely need all of you to weigh in. When you started growing your hair from day shoulder or those middle lengths to long, like tailbone, did you have thinner ends than the rest of the hair?
I don’t know how to describe it, it’s like when I pull my pony from neck down , the thickness of it is smaller as I go down.
If some of you did have this ‘issue’ how did you fix it? Is it positive for hair to be long and have thick ends on such lengths? I just want to know if it worth a try or should I just trim it if to the last thick ending ?

[neko_kawaii]

I don’t know if i asked this before but I genuinely need all of you to weigh in. When you started growing your hair from day shoulder or those middle lengths to long, like tailbone, did you have thinner ends than the rest of the hair?
I don’t know how to describe it, it’s like when I pull my pony from neck down , the thickness of it is smaller as I go down.
If some of you did have this ‘issue’ how did you fix it? Is it positive for hair to be long and have thick ends on such lengths? I just want to know if it worth a try or should I just trim it if to the last thick ending ?

I think the term you are looking for is "taper".

Because each hair follicle has its own cycle, all hairs are naturally a different length. Since they cannot all be the same length, as you go down your ponytail there are fewer and fewer hairs to contribute to the thickness. Some people have more follicles or follicles with very long growth cycles and can grow hair that looks thicker at tailbone than someone else with fewer follicles or a shorter follicle cycle.

Some taper is caused by damage, diet, stress, or some other controllable environmental factor. Once those factors are addressed, we are limited by our genetics to how thick our hair looks at different lengths.

[baanoo]

I don’t know if i asked this before but I genuinely need all of you to weigh in. When you started growing your hair from day shoulder or those middle lengths to long, like tailbone, did you have thinner ends than the rest of the hair?
I don’t know how to describe it, it’s like when I pull my pony from neck down , the thickness of it is smaller as I go down.
If some of you did have this ‘issue’ how did you fix it? Is it positive for hair to be long and have thick ends on such lengths? I just want to know if it worth a try or should I just trim it if to the last thick ending ?

I did and do - part of it is old layers, part of it is that there’s more new growth closer to my head. I’ve had my hair long (well, mbl probably) and one one length before and I see all the lovelies here with thick hems, so I know it’s possible! It just takes patience and maintaining at a given length for a longer period of time.

IMO, don’t cut them out, wait til you reach a comfortable length and maintain. Your hair looks so good already!

[foreveryours]

I don’t know if i asked this before but I genuinely need all of you to weigh in. When you started growing your hair from day shoulder or those middle lengths to long, like tailbone, did you have thinner ends than the rest of the hair?
I don’t know how to describe it, it’s like when I pull my pony from neck down , the thickness of it is smaller as I go down.
If some of you did have this ‘issue’ how did you fix it? Is it positive for hair to be long and have thick ends on such lengths? I just want to know if it worth a try or should I just trim it if to the last thick ending ?

Yes, it's a fact of life. Each of the hairs on you head has a unique growth rate and terminal length. The hairs near your hairline won't grow as long as those near the back of the crown (thickest at least on my head :) ). Also, lapis_lazuli's blog entry last year in which she collected some of her sheds and demonstrated taper of the individual hair strands! So even IF all hairs on your head were the same length, you would STILL have taper!!!

[Belgrade Beauty]

I think the term you are looking for is "taper".

Because each hair follicle has its own cycle, all hairs are naturally a different length. Since they cannot all be the same length, as you go down your ponytail there are fewer and fewer hairs to contribute to the thickness. Some people have more follicles or follicles with very long growth cycles and can grow hair that looks thicker at tailbone than someone else with fewer follicles or a shorter follicle cycle.

Some taper is caused by damage, diet, stress, or some other controllable environmental factor. Once those factors are addressed, we are limited by our genetics to how thick our hair looks at different lengths.
I didn’t know the proper name for it, I assumed we have it here on LHC. Thank you for explaining.

I did and do - part of it is old layers, part of it is that there’s more new growth closer to my head. I’ve had my hair long (well, mbl probably) and one one length before and I see all the lovelies here with thick hems, so I know it’s possible! It just takes patience and maintaining at a given length for a longer period of time.

IMO, don’t cut them out, wait til you reach a comfortable length and maintain. Your hair looks so good already!
Thank you for your reply. I was thinking the same, I was just wandering if there’s a point in it. I mean, thank you for your compliment, it means a lot. However, I tend to post pics when I wash and brush my hair. Which doesn’t look that bad. But today I washed it and looked in reverse mirror how it looks unbrushed because I intended you know to go out with my hair down, and being fine stranded as it is, it tends to form whips and tangles. I can’t brush it all the time. So I wanted to see how it looks from behind when it’s not fixed for photos. And I was both shocked and saddened by what I saw. I really try and take good care of it . The only sucky thing is my diet isn’t the best and I’m not the fittest of people so that naturally might be affecting the quality of my hair. I know it does, while I maintained a healthy diet with all the foods good for hair , the hair looked much more live and nice on the ends. When I broke it, the hair had sheds and in general the appearance of it went downhill:(

Yes, it's a fact of life. Each of the hairs on you head has a unique growth rate and terminal length. The hairs near your hairline won't grow as long as those near the back of the crown (thickest at least on my head :) ). Also, lapis_lazuli's blog entry last year in which she collected some of her sheds and demonstrated taper of the individual hair strands! So even IF all hairs on your head were the same length, you would STILL have taper!!!
Yes I understand that part of ‘haircut’. I imagined how it would look if you grew a buzz cut without ever shaping it. But I didn’t mean that, it’s just , tbh I was and still am kind of scared that my terminal length for most my strands isn’t on length I would like it to be.
https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44685&d=1615233551

[pisinoe]

I don’t know if i asked this before but I genuinely need all of you to weigh in. When you started growing your hair from day shoulder or those middle lengths to long, like tailbone, did you have thinner ends than the rest of the hair?
I don’t know how to describe it, it’s like when I pull my pony from neck down , the thickness of it is smaller as I go down.
If some of you did have this ‘issue’ how did you fix it? Is it positive for hair to be long and have thick ends on such lengths? I just want to know if it worth a try or should I just trim it if to the last thick ending ?

Yep I’ve noticed this too, especially when I braid it (so I avoid doing that in order not to see it). I plan to migrate to the microtrim and maintaining thread once I reach my goal in order to thicken it up. Meanwhile I’m taking a LOT of care of the lengt, the middle and roots included, since they’ll be the ones travelling down there eventually.

[Belgrade Beauty]

Yep I’ve noticed this too, especially when I braid it (so I avoid doing that in order not to see it). I plan to migrate to the microtrim and maintaining thread once I reach my goal in order to thicken it up. Meanwhile I’m taking a LOT of care of the lengt, the middle and roots included, since they’ll be the ones travelling down there eventually.
I’ve seen your hair, you’re not even close ;D

[pisinoe]

You’d be surprised lol!

Can’t wait to cut a blunt hemline and start maintaining.

https://i.imgur.com/6BhrA4E_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[barnet_fair]

I just wanted to express my affection for everyone in this thread. You're all gorgeous and have gorgeous hair. Let's not fret and be self-conscious about our hemlines or taper. Belgrade Beauty, I understand how you felt when you saw your hair from behind in a candid photo and didn't like it. However, we should remember that the beauty of hair is IN MOTION and what you don't see is the beautiful way your hair moves around your body - but I'm sure those around you notice! When you take a still photo of your hair, it has gaps and unevenness that aren't visible like that in real life, because when your hair is down it's always moving.

[Bri-Chan]

Belgrade Beauty, even if I had long-ish hair pretty much for or my life, this is the first time I'm growing out layers + my hair isn't at its healthiest state, so I obviously experience some taper. If it can make you feel less alone, I often think my terminal length is way shorter than average.
I think your hair looks fine! Also, you're not far from your goal, and when there you just have to maintain and it will keep your hemline at its thickest state.

[lapushka]

I just wanted to express my affection for everyone in this thread. You're all gorgeous and have gorgeous hair. Let's not fret and be self-conscious about our hemlines or taper. Belgrade Beauty, I understand how you felt when you saw your hair from behind in a candid photo and didn't like it. However, we should remember that the beauty of hair is IN MOTION and what you don't see is the beautiful way your hair moves around your body - but I'm sure those around you notice! When you take a still photo of your hair, it has gaps and unevenness that aren't visible like that in real life, because when your hair is down it's always moving.

I think there's even a thread on that, yep, how it lays differently with every moment, picture, etc., it's called, "Your hair is never the same.":
https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=145752

[cestlavie]

I just wanted to express my affection for everyone in this thread. You're all gorgeous and have gorgeous hair. Let's not fret and be self-conscious about our hemlines or taper. Belgrade Beauty, I understand how you felt when you saw your hair from behind in a candid photo and didn't like it. However, we should remember that the beauty of hair is IN MOTION and what you don't see is the beautiful way your hair moves around your body - but I'm sure those around you notice! When you take a still photo of your hair, it has gaps and unevenness that aren't visible like that in real life, because when your hair is down it's always moving.

I agree 100%!

[oldrocker]

Still in the hip to TBL abyss

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801610826016096261/816037506847998022/image0.jpg

wow....simply beautiful, IMHO....

O.R.

[girlcat36]

I don’t know if i asked this before but I genuinely need all of you to weigh in. When you started growing your hair from day shoulder or those middle lengths to long, like tailbone, did you have thinner ends than the rest of the hair?
I don’t know how to describe it, it’s like when I pull my pony from neck down , the thickness of it is smaller as I go down.
If some of you did have this ‘issue’ how did you fix it? Is it positive for hair to be long and have thick ends on such lengths? I just want to know if it worth a try or should I just trim it if to the last thick ending ?

I’ve been at hip for about two years, have a significant taper.
So much so, that I think most people wouldn’t bother growing it. I go from a ii thickness at neck, to i at BSL.
I’ll keep growing anyway because I look stupid with short hair.
💁🏻

[Belgrade Beauty]

I just wanted to express my affection for everyone in this thread. You're all gorgeous and have gorgeous hair. Let's not fret and be self-conscious about our hemlines or taper. Belgrade Beauty, I understand how you felt when you saw your hair from behind in a candid photo and didn't like it. However, we should remember that the beauty of hair is IN MOTION and what you don't see is the beautiful way your hair moves around your body - but I'm sure those around you notice! When you take a still photo of your hair, it has gaps and unevenness that aren't visible like that in real life, because when your hair is down it's always moving. :heartbeat: it wasn’t a photo, the reverse mirror, when I turn my back on mirror and hold another in front of me, so I can see myself from the back. So that’s what I saw. It may be the push I need to start healthy diet again. My hair doesn’t move. I don’t know what that’s called , but she has so little weight to it, I put serums and leave ins and nothing. Nothing weights it down. It’s fine strands, what can I do, you know? But I’m looking forward to maintaining. I’m not ambitious to go for classic, it never attracted me . I will stop at tailbone and with some care I hope I’ll get what I always wanted :) but thank you for trying to cheer me up! I love this thread and people on it. Lemme tel you, I will stay here, won’t move to other longer ones :D


Belgrade Beauty, even if I had long-ish hair pretty much for or my life, this is the first time I'm growing out layers + my hair isn't at its healthiest state, so I obviously experience some taper. If it can make you feel less alone, I often think my terminal length is way shorter than average.
I think your hair looks fine! Also, you're not far from your goal, and when there you just have to maintain and it will keep your hemline at its thickest state.

Believe me I’m so looking forward to it, you wouldn’t believe how much. I’m in dilemma though, do I do it monthly or every 6 months or once I year mayor chop. Aaaagh, I’m so hyped for maintaining!

[Belgrade Beauty]

I’ve been at hip for about two years, have a significant taper.
So much so, that I think most people wouldn’t bother growing it. I go from a ii thickness at neck, to i at BSL.
I’ll keep growing anyway because I look stupid with short hair.
💁🏻
Are you maintaining at hip? Or are you in a stall?


wow....simply beautiful, IMHO....

O.R.
I agree!

You’d be surprised lol!

Can’t wait to cut a blunt hemline and start maintaining.

https://i.imgur.com/6BhrA4E_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
Whenever I see your hair , I seriously reconsider growing my own. Look at that mane, boy !

I think there's even a thread on that, yep, how it lays differently with every moment, picture, etc., it's called, "Your hair is never the same.":
https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=145752
I think I’m gonna check it out!

[Finda]

Belgrade Beauty I also have significant taper, always had it. But as long as the demarcation line between transparent and nontransparant hair is growing down and not up I will live with it.

On your avatar your hair looks very beautiful, and even more impressive is that it's worn on white!

[baanoo]

Ahhh, you guys, I just love you all so much. Look at all these wildly different heads of hair! All beautiful and beloved and no two the same, not even from one moment to the next. :inlove:

As a fine- haired person, I know how it is to feel like your hair doesn’t move because it doesn’t have the same kind of swing that folks with thicker strands have, but I have accepted and even delight in my mysteriously-weightless threads. It’s their nature and who am I to critique the way they were intended to be?

[pisinoe]

Thank you oldrocker and BelgradeBeauty! :heart:

[Bri-Chan]

Yesterday, watching my hair in a good hairday, I realized that I need to reach tailbone to make my hair looking as bcl with my good/not bad hairday texture.

[Belgrade Beauty]

Yesterday, watching my hair in a good hairday, I realized that I need to reach tailbone to make my hair looking as bcl with my good/not bad hairday texture.
That's the thing with wavy hair. Girl, I've been waiting for my BCL 1 inch in months now.. :D And same as you,I'll have to be tbl for it to show...:D
I decided today is hair pampering day. :D Maybe my hair and hair Gods appreciate it :)

Ahhh, you guys, I just love you all so much. Look at all these wildly different heads of hair! All beautiful and beloved and no two the same, not even from one moment to the next. :inlove:

As a fine- haired person, I know how it is to feel like your hair doesn’t move because it doesn’t have the same kind of swing that folks with thicker strands have, but I have accepted and even delight in my mysteriously-weightless threads. It’s their nature and who am I to critique the way they were intended to be?

We either deal with it, or buzz cut ourselves. :D

[BexLocks]

Anyone else experience this? When I look at photos from the past several months, and also by where I can feel the hair on my back, my hair has obviously grown. But when I measure, I always get exactly the same measurement. What's going on??? Maybe this is a sign I should stay away from the measuring tape and stop obsessing about numbers.

[Eastbound&Down]

Yesterday, watching my hair in a good hairday, I realized that I need to reach tailbone to make my hair looking as bcl with my good/not bad hairday texture.

Like, is it because your hair at that length is in the middle of a wave so it lays weird? My hair definitely does that every couple of inches it grows into a new wave and just lays weird until it grows more.

[baanoo]

Anyone else experience this? When I look at photos from the past several months, and also by where I can feel the hair on my back, my hair has obviously grown. But when I measure, I always get exactly the same measurement. What's going on??? Maybe this is a sign I should stay away from the measuring tape and stop obsessing about numbers.

I.... cannot measure my hair with a tape measure because it has anti-gravitational cotton candy forces that prevent me from getting any sort of consistent number.

So I commiserate and also feel like body markers are more than enough for me!

[Bri-Chan]

Anyone else experience this? When I look at photos from the past several months, and also by where I can feel the hair on my back, my hair has obviously grown. But when I measure, I always get exactly the same measurement. What's going on??? Maybe this is a sign I should stay away from the measuring tape and stop obsessing about numbers.
Maybe you don't start measuring always from the same spot? I pay a lot of attention to this.


Like, is it because your hair at that length is in the middle of a wave so it lays weird? My hair definitely does that every couple of inches it grows into a new wave and just lays weird until it grows more.
Mh, I hadn't thought about this. I think it's more a mixture of shrinkage and volume. Also when my waves haven't definition, they still have shrinkage. In this days I dried my hair with a different routine than usual, so my hair looks now very straight (I think a 1b more or less) and I realized then usually I have 2 to 3 inches of shrinkage, that feels insane since I'm just a 2a! I mean, my hair is almost straight...

[baanoo]

Spamming today, because:
1- my hair is clean and looking pretty good! Only a few crumples from finishing drying in a bun, and brush-straightened as is my cool-weather jam.
2- it’s my 9th anniversary today! (Not on LHC, that’s only one year and apparently was in February but I didn’t notice)
3- it is now officially spring and the sun is shining and I am beyond thankful for this season of rebirth
4- just cause ;)

https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44824&d=1616269435

[Finda]

baanoo Super pretty! And so straight! It's still fascinating to me how changeable wavy hair is.

[baanoo]

baanoo Super pretty! And so straight! It's still fascinating to me how changeable wavy hair is.

Thank you, Finda! My hair is a wild beast; if I brush it out at intervals while it’s drying all the spirals and waves relax away; if I encourage it even the slightest bit they come bouncing out. Wavy hair is indeed as changeable as the sea.

[Bri-Chan]

baanoo it's beautiful! So healthy and shiny.

[cestlavie]

Baanoo, your hair looks amazing!

[GrowlingCupcake]

baanoo your hair is so pretty!

At some point this year, I finally graduated. After about six months of trimming it at 36 inches (BCL) till it thickened up a bit, and then just letting it grow, I'm finally past TBL for my longest strand, and longest bunch of strands!

I'll still be stalking this thread, of course :)

Happy growing!

[shaluwm_agape]

Baanoo i love seeing your hair! My hair is the same way some days super straight others really wavy

[Belgrade Beauty]

its been a while since we had a pic in this thread... why you ladies don’t post more(I’m intending to annoy my man to take a few today)? Bannoo ,So happy to see your hair, it’s lovely as ever... And it looks thick! Amazing!
Growling cupcake that’s super awesome news! Congrats on hitting the goal!

[BexLocks]

baanoo, your hair is so pretty. GrowlingCupcake, congratulations!!

[Feral_]

Spamming today, because:
1- my hair is clean and looking pretty good! Only a few crumples from finishing drying in a bun, and brush-straightened as is my cool-weather jam.
2- it’s my 9th anniversary today! (Not on LHC, that’s only one year and apparently was in February but I didn’t notice)
3- it is now officially spring and the sun is shining and I am beyond thankful for this season of rebirth
4- just cause ;)



Your hair is beautiful baanoo, it looks super healthy :crush:

[BexLocks]

I've been encouraging my waves and wurls with the curly girl method. I like how they look in this picture with natural winter light. I think there was snow outside

https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44827&d=1616334831

[Eastbound&Down]

I've been encouraging my waves and wurls with the curly girl method. I like how they look in this picture with natural winter light. I think there was snow outside

https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44827&d=1616334831

So shiny! Very nice, glad CG is working for you.

[BexLocks]

Thank you Eastbound&Down! Here's a length shot from today. The bottom edge of the sweater is at BCL. I guess maybe I should call it. What do you all think? It definitely brushes BCL in the shower.
https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44828&d=1616335269

[cestlavie]

I love your waves/curls, Bex! I think you can call it BCL!

[Bri-Chan]

I've been encouraging my waves and wurls with the curly girl method. I like how they look in this picture with natural winter light. I think there was snow outside

https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44827&d=1616334831

I'm happy CGM is working for you! I'm following it lately but I'm experimenting with straight styling since some wash but I miss my hair!
For the milestone, I think I'll give it 2 weeks to decide. I had the "can I call it?" issues with BCL too lately.

[BexLocks]

Thanks cestlavie and Bri-Chan! Waiting 2 weeks is a good idea before calling it. I'll do that. Then it's a long way to TBL on me. Probably a year or more! Happy to be growing with you all. Thank you for the encouragement!

[Finda]

Thank you, Finda! My hair is a wild beast; if I brush it out at intervals while it’s drying all the spirals and waves relax away; if I encourage it even the slightest bit they come bouncing out. Wavy hair is indeed as changeable as the sea.

Yes, it's the same with my hair. I have never encouraged my waves much but I'm sort of curious to find out what my hair might be capable of *lol* When you have it wavy, do you brush at all? I'm scared of matted hair.


BexLocks Very nice waves!

[bokeh]

I've been encouraging my waves and wurls with the curly girl method. I like how they look in this picture with natural winter light. I think there was snow outside
The waves are very pretty in your hair BexLocks and I love the color in the winter light!

I played around with the Curly Girl method when I first started growing out my hair. I learned a lot from the experience and still use some of the techniques and products.

[baanoo]

Yes, it's the same with my hair. I have never encouraged my waves much but I'm sort of curious to find out what my hair might be capable of *lol* When you have it wavy, do you brush at all? I'm scared of matted hair.


BexLocks Very nice waves!

When it’s wavy, I don’t brush it really, just finger-comb - though I do love a poofed wavy look sometimes.


Your hair is beautiful baanoo, it looks super healthy :crush:

Thank you! That’s a big compliment coming from you of the super-shine. :)


baanoo, your hair is so pretty. GrowlingCupcake, congratulations!!

Thank you Bex, your hair is looking gorgeous with those waves!


its been a while since we had a pic in this thread... why you ladies don’t post more(I’m intending to annoy my man to take a few today)? Bannoo ,So happy to see your hair, it’s lovely as ever... And it looks thick! Amazing!
Growling cupcake that’s super awesome news! Congrats on hitting the goal!

Thank you, Beauty!


Baanoo i love seeing your hair! My hair is the same way some days super straight others really wavy

Aw thanks, neighbor! Such is the magic of waves.


baanoo your hair is so pretty!

At some point this year, I finally graduated. After about six months of trimming it at 36 inches (BCL) till it thickened up a bit, and then just letting it grow, I'm finally past TBL for my longest strand, and longest bunch of strands!

I'll still be stalking this thread, of course :)

Happy growing!

Thank you Cupcake and congratulations!!!!


Baanoo, your hair looks amazing!


baanoo it's beautiful! So healthy and shiny.

Thank you so much, Cestlavie and Bri! :heart:

[Finda]

When it’s wavy, I don’t brush it really, just finger-comb - though I do love a poofed wavy look sometimes.

Ah, thank you! One more question: do you do anything specific in order to encourage waves or to keep them?

[Belgrade Beauty]

I've been encouraging my waves and wurls with the curly girl method. I like how they look in this picture with natural winter light. I think there was snow outside

https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44827&d=1616334831
Oooh, the color is so pretty!!!

[BexLocks]

Thank you for all the compliments!

[baanoo]

Ah, thank you! One more question: do you do anything specific in order to encourage waves or to keep them?

If I want to encourage and keep the waves to their maximum strength, I really need to use some sort of mousse and diffuse my hair instead of letting it air dry. I flip my head over when I diffuse it and let my lengths rest inside the dryer - I scrunch in the mousse in when it's wet but not dripping, and then when it's halfway dry I go after it with the dryer.

[pisinoe]

So many beautiful heads of hair here!

Terrible quality but I’m contributing with a pic :)

https://i.imgur.com/AOJSuoo_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[lapushka]

pisinoe, your hair got so long! Is it just me? It isn't, is it? It grew so fast. :D That's awesome. Very pretty! :) Is that TBL? It is, no?

[pisinoe]

pisinoe, your hair got so long! Is it just me? It isn't, is it? It grew so fast. :D That's awesome. Very pretty! :) Is that TBL? It is, no?

Because I have a serious case of lhcitis right now, I can't say I agree that it grew fast... I'm so impatient!! hehe. Thank you! And I wish it was TBL, it's still just at hip length :(

[bokeh]

So many beautiful heads of hair here!

Terrible quality but I’m contributing with a pic :)
It's beautiful pisinoe and it does look very close to TBL. How long before you think that you can call it?

[pisinoe]

It's beautiful pisinoe and it does look very close to TBL. How long before you think that you can call it?

Thank you dear! :heart:
Oh, there's still quite a few cm left. I'm hoping I'll reach it by June for my 2year lhcversary but I'm not too hopeful :/

[baanoo]

So many beautiful heads of hair here!

Terrible quality but I’m contributing with a pic :)

https://i.imgur.com/AOJSuoo_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

I love seeing your hair! It’s so shiny and those waves are downright dreamy. I agree with Lapushka that it seems to be growing so quickly! :)

[Finda]

If I want to encourage and keep the waves to their maximum strength, I really need to use some sort of mousse and diffuse my hair instead of letting it air dry. I flip my head over when I diffuse it and let my lengths rest inside the dryer - I scrunch in the mousse in when it's wet but not dripping, and then when it's halfway dry I go after it with the dryer.

Thanks again! I guess I need to talk my friend into lending me her blowdryer. I think she has a diffuser attachment.

[pisinoe]

Thought I’d post this for clarification, it’s interesting how pics can he misleading lol. Where the image cuts is where TBL is on me.


https://i.imgur.com/f1VTfzA_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[spirals]

You're so close.

[ArtOfNoot]

Hi everybody! I've graduated from the BSL to waist thread, now I'm here :o

[bokeh]

Congratulations to you ArtOfNoot! Happy growing!

[lapushka]

Yes, pisinoe, that is not that far off! It looks closer to TBL than to hip, to me at least. :D

[Eastbound&Down]

Hi everybody! I've graduated from the BSL to waist thread, now I'm here :o

Oh, congrats! Thats a big one!

[ArtOfNoot]

Congratulations to you ArtOfNoot! Happy growing!


Oh, congrats! Thats a big one!

Thanks! I'm very excited

[Bri-Chan]

Thought I’d post this for clarification, it’s interesting how pics can he misleading lol. Where the image cuts is where TBL is on me.



Beautiful as always!


Hi everybody! I've graduated from the BSL to waist thread, now I'm here :o

Welcome to the thread!

[Finda]

Hi everybody! I've graduated from the BSL to waist thread, now I'm here :o

Congratulations, that's awesome! For me, that was the hardest goal to reach :)

[cestlavie]

Hi everybody! I've graduated from the BSL to waist thread, now I'm here :o

Welcome, happy growing to tailbone and beyond!

[baanoo]

Hi everybody! I've graduated from the BSL to waist thread, now I'm here :o

Congratulations & welcome aboard! :pirate:

[Estrid]

I find myself being less and less on the LHC, and I don't know why. I enjoy this place a lot, so there's no reason for me to not be here.


I took a length photo today, just to have something to come with.

https://i.imgur.com/2jYnByS.jpg

I don't know when to call tbl so I think I might just skip that length marker and go straight for CL. x)

ETA: the photo ended up way bigger than I intended.

[Eastbound&Down]

I find myself being less and less on the LHC, and I don't know why. I enjoy this place a lot, so there's no reason for me to not be here.


I took a length photo today, just to have something to come with.

https://i.imgur.com/2jYnByS.jpg

I don't know when to call tbl so I think I might just skip that length marker and go straight for CL. x)

ETA: the photo ended up way bigger than I intended.

Absolutely gorgeous!

[draysmir]

I find myself being less and less on the LHC, and I don't know why. I enjoy this place a lot, so there's no reason for me to not be here.


I took a length photo today, just to have something to come with.

https://i.imgur.com/2jYnByS.jpg

I don't know when to call tbl so I think I might just skip that length marker and go straight for CL. x)

ETA: the photo ended up way bigger than I intended.

Your hair is so beautiful! :o

[knobbly]

BexLocks, pisinoe, and baanoo your heads look amazing! Loving all the playing with texture you have going on here. Gorgeous!

Estrid I die every time you post. :crush:

[cestlavie]

I find myself being less and less on the LHC, and I don't know why. I enjoy this place a lot, so there's no reason for me to not be here.


I took a length photo today, just to have something to come with.

https://i.imgur.com/2jYnByS.jpg

I don't know when to call tbl so I think I might just skip that length marker and go straight for CL. x)

ETA: the photo ended up way bigger than I intended.

Your hair pictures are my fave! Lovely as always!

[Finda]

Estrid So, so beautiful!

[Estrid]

Thank you, everyone! You're all too kind :crush:

My hair is starting to feel annoyingly long when it's down, even when I'm just waiting for it to air dry. I'm not sure how well I'll manage longer lengths :lol:

[Bri-Chan]

I find myself being less and less on the LHC, and I don't know why. I enjoy this place a lot, so there's no reason for me to not be here.


I took a length photo today, just to have something to come with.

https://i.imgur.com/2jYnByS.jpg

I don't know when to call tbl so I think I might just skip that length marker and go straight for CL. x)

ETA: the photo ended up way bigger than I intended.

It's looking great! It's CL your final goal?

[Finda]

Thank you, everyone! You're all too kind :crush:

My hair is starting to feel annoyingly long when it's down, even when I'm just waiting for it to air dry. I'm not sure how well I'll manage longer lengths :lol:

Today I still had some housework to do while my hair was drying. It got in the way constantly. I think part of the problem is that I'm not used to wearing it down and then I'm too focused on it not rubbing too much on surfaces. When watching action movies with the lead actress sporting long, unsecured hair I always wonder how she does it?! :popcorn:

[cestlavie]

[/B]

Today I still had some housework to do while my hair was drying. It got in the way constantly. I think part of the problem is that I'm not used to wearing it down and then I'm too focused on it not rubbing too much on surfaces. When watching action movies with the lead actress sporting long, unsecured hair I always wonder how she does it?! :popcorn:

I have this too, I get stressed when I need to do some chores around the house and I want my hair to airdry while doing so. It gets in the way and rubs on every surface. I rarely wear it down.

[Bri-Chan]

[/B]

Today I still had some housework to do while my hair was drying. It got in the way constantly. I think part of the problem is that I'm not used to wearing it down and then I'm too focused on it not rubbing too much on surfaces. When watching action movies with the lead actress sporting long, unsecured hair I always wonder how she does it?! :popcorn:

I started having this problem after the wear it up challenge (I did it for 1 month). Now I usually wear my hair down ~half week and I'm getting used to this just recently, 3 months after the end of the challenge.

[Estrid]

Thank you, Bri-Chan! I don't really have any final goal, I've just told myself that I don't think I'll want longer than to my knees, but I can't really be sure about anything x)



[/B]

Today I still had some housework to do while my hair was drying. It got in the way constantly. I think part of the problem is that I'm not used to wearing it down and then I'm too focused on it not rubbing too much on surfaces. When watching action movies with the lead actress sporting long, unsecured hair I always wonder how she does it?! :popcorn:

I have no idea how they manage it, it's a struggle just to sit with it loose! it gets stuck, tangles, or gets in the way :lol:

[Eastbound&Down]

[/B]

Today I still had some housework to do while my hair was drying. It got in the way constantly. I think part of the problem is that I'm not used to wearing it down and then I'm too focused on it not rubbing too much on surfaces. When watching action movies with the lead actress sporting long, unsecured hair I always wonder how she does it?! :popcorn:

I do this with sports! Like, some tennis players will be out there with their hair all in their face, just braid it! Ponytail, bun, something!

[Imaginaera]

Just made it to waist length, so it'll soon be time to hop on the waist-to-tailbone train!:cheese:
I can't quite start growing yet, since my shortest layers are still APL as a result of layering my own hair for the first time. The plan is to maintain at WL until my shortest layers reach BSL and then be on my merry way.
Note to self: Get a better haircutting tutorial.

[Finda]

I started having this problem after the wear it up challenge (I did it for 1 month). Now I usually wear my hair down ~half week and I'm getting used to this just recently, 3 months after the end of the challenge.

Do you notice a difference now that you're wearing it down more? My hair is so prone to breakage, the mere thought of wearing it down is enough to make it split lol. Not wearing updos will only be an option once I have reached my goal length and maintained for a while (but by then I will have no idea how to handle the length more than ever;)). Around here I see so many girls in their teens or early twenties with waist to hip length hair, always wearing it down, very often with backpacks and the hair doesn't look half bad.



I do this with sports! Like, some tennis players will be out there with their hair all in their face, just braid it! Ponytail, bun, something!

Yes, that too!!



Just made it to waist length, so it'll soon be time to hop on the waist-to-tailbone train!:cheese:
I can't quite start growing yet, since my shortest layers are still APL as a result of layering my own hair for the first time. The plan is to maintain at WL until my shortest layers reach BSL and then be on my merry way.
Note to self: Get a better haircutting tutorial.

Welcome and happy growing :)

[Bri-Chan]

Do you notice a difference now that you're wearing it down more? My hair is so prone to breakage, the mere thought of wearing it down is enough to make it split lol. Not wearing updos will only be an option once I have reached my goal length and maintained for a while (but by then I will have no idea how to handle the length more than ever;)). Around here I see so many girls in their teens or early twenties with waist to hip length hair, always wearing it down, very often with backpacks and the hair doesn't look half bad.


I'm not sure because I grew up wearing my hair down all the time, I started wearing it up during the last year. So I don't know about the difference in breakage... I don't remember troubles on growing my hair long because of breakage in the past, but I've never had hair so long and damaged like now.
I see all the time young women with long hair down too! Like BCL to CL, always down.
Maybe it's also about your life style too?

[baanoo]

Welcome, Imaginaera! :)

[Finda]

I'm not sure because I grew up wearing my hair down all the time, I started wearing it up during the last year. So I don't know about the difference in breakage... I don't remember troubles on growing my hair long because of breakage in the past, but I've never had hair so long and damaged like now.
I see all the time young women with long hair down too! Like BCL to CL, always down.
Maybe it's also about your life style too?

A friend of mine wears her hair down a lot. But she has been maintaining around waist/hip since her childhood so I guess when you cut at regular intervals anyhow the ends rubbing a bit is not so bad overall. Unless you do something major that causes breakage. But that is just a theory because my own hair didn't grow when I wore it down constantly ;)

[Bri-Chan]

A friend of mine wears her hair down a lot. But she has been maintaining around waist/hip since her childhood so I guess when you cut at regular intervals anyhow the ends rubbing a bit is not so bad overall. Unless you do something major that causes breakage. But that is just a theory because my own hair didn't grow when I wore it down constantly ;)

Literally everyone I know irl with long hair wear it down most of the time. I think a lot of people don't even know how to bun with a stick.
For sure it's easier when you are already at your goal length. Maybe depends also on what are you doing? Like, I spend most of my time sit in front of my laptop, I don't think moving that little can hurt... :confused: I usually wear it down for the first 2 days, that used to be (ah, capricious texture lately) the time my waves stayed intact without a refresh. But if I'm doing something like cooking or cleaning a wear it in a low ponytail with an invisibobble.

[barnet_fair]

Anyone else find their hair tangles more in a (high) ponytail than loose? I like to wear my hair in a high ponytail sometimes, and usually taking it down after a couple of hours will reveal awful knots, which I don't get when I'm just wearing my hair down. On the other hand, it could be due to the activities I tend to do in the high ponytail, e.g. going out of the house (windy weather), exercising, cleaning, all quite active.

I'm still in the "wear it down whenever I like and see what happens" state of mind, though like Finda I can't do housework with it getting everywhere (it's reached "bottom drawer of dishwasher" length...) so my usual daily routine involves bunning for a few hours at a time while at the computer or going about the house, taking the bun down when it starts to bother me, and sometimes just putting it into a low ponytail with a silk scrunchie to get it out of the way for quick tasks like cooking.

I do feel that if I wore it up all the time, I wouldn't know how to handle it when it was down, and that by wearing it down reguarly while doing various activities I'm learning how to move my whole body with the hair in mind and incorporate it into my proprioception.

[baanoo]

Anyone else find their hair tangles more in a (high) ponytail than loose? I like to wear my hair in a high ponytail sometimes, and usually taking it down after a couple of hours will reveal awful knots, which I don't get when I'm just wearing my hair down. On the other hand, it could be due to the activities I tend to do in the high ponytail, e.g. going out of the house (windy weather), exercising, cleaning, all quite active.

I'm still in the "wear it down whenever I like and see what happens" state of mind, though like Finda I can't do housework with it getting everywhere (it's reached "bottom drawer of dishwasher" length...) so my usual daily routine involves bunning for a few hours at a time while at the computer or going about the house, taking the bun down when it starts to bother me, and sometimes just putting it into a low ponytail with a silk scrunchie to get it out of the way for quick tasks like cooking.

I do feel that if I wore it up all the time, I wouldn't know how to handle it when it was down, and that by wearing it down reguarly while doing various activities I'm learning how to move my whole body with the hair in mind and incorporate it into my proprioception.

This is lovely and exactly how I feel about it.

I’ve never been someone who wears their hair down all the time - even as a kid, I liked it up out of my face, but I do like to mix it up. Down, for me, is more tangly if I’m outside than a high ponytail (scarves and collars = the biggest rat’s nest when it’s down; a high pony keeps it away from my neck). I’m very conscious of the wind when I fix my hair!

[Ylva]

Anyone else find their hair tangles more in a (high) ponytail than loose? I like to wear my hair in a high ponytail sometimes, and usually taking it down after a couple of hours will reveal awful knots, which I don't get when I'm just wearing my hair down. On the other hand, it could be due to the activities I tend to do in the high ponytail, e.g. going out of the house (windy weather), exercising, cleaning, all quite active.

Ponytails (just low ones, I can't wear high ones due to scalp discomfort) give me the most awful matted tangles at the nape. Thus, I never wear my hair in one except for a few minutes when I wash my face and/or brush my teeth and do skincare stuff and such. Wearing my hair loose, I certainly get tangles, but they're sort of all over the lengths rather than a severely matted spot in one area, so if I had to choose one, I'd definitely wear my hair loose.

[Finda]

Anyone else find their hair tangles more in a (high) ponytail than loose? I like to wear my hair in a high ponytail sometimes, and usually taking it down after a couple of hours will reveal awful knots, which I don't get when I'm just wearing my hair down. On the other hand, it could be due to the activities I tend to do in the high ponytail, e.g. going out of the house (windy weather), exercising, cleaning, all quite active.

I'm still in the "wear it down whenever I like and see what happens" state of mind, though like Finda I can't do housework with it getting everywhere (it's reached "bottom drawer of dishwasher" length...) so my usual daily routine involves bunning for a few hours at a time while at the computer or going about the house, taking the bun down when it starts to bother me, and sometimes just putting it into a low ponytail with a silk scrunchie to get it out of the way for quick tasks like cooking.

I do feel that if I wore it up all the time, I wouldn't know how to handle it when it was down, and that by wearing it down reguarly while doing various activities I'm learning how to move my whole body with the hair in mind and incorporate it into my proprioception.

This is very well put :)

I sacrificed ponytails as well, because I noticed a bad break line where the hair tie was, but it used to be one of my favorite styles. I remember getting really bad tangles and matted hair even, both in my ponytail and in my neck where the shorter nape hair didn't make it into the ponytail. Like Ylva, I got tangles when wearing my hair down, but less pronounced and more evenly distributed.

[victor_tinyduck]

I'm so bad at knowing where milestones are, but I think I may finally be at tailbone???

https://i.imgur.com/iuA4yyQ.jpg

[Bri-Chan]

^ it's hard to tell, tailbone can be very hard to find, I think you're the only one who can understand if you're there or not.

[squirrrel]

Yes, these are definitely milestones which are very much up to you to call as best suits you. Let’s face it, some call tailbone BCL as well, so... You’re in the general area, so if you are happy calling it, please do so. ��

[Finda]

My tailbone is about 4 inches, maybe even an additional centimeter, away from bcl. For me, tailbone as a marker/milestone would only make sense when you use the lowest segment as a reference, because that is the point you can actually feel by touching^^ But you cannot discern it by looking at a picture. Your hair looks great in any case! :)

[foreveryours]

I always thought "tailbone" was was the lowest point of the vertebral column, where you might actually have a tail, which is right at the top of my butt crack. To me, being manx with no tail, they are synonymous.

[victor_tinyduck]

^ it's hard to tell, tailbone can be very hard to find, I think you're the only one who can understand if you're there or not.


Yes, these are definitely milestones which are very much up to you to call as best suits you. Let’s face it, some call tailbone BCL as well, so... You’re in the general area, so if you are happy calling it, please do so. ��


My tailbone is about 4 inches, maybe even an additional centimeter, away from bcl. For me, tailbone as a marker/milestone would only make sense when you use the lowest segment as a reference, because that is the point you can actually feel by touching^^ But you cannot discern it by looking at a picture. Your hair looks great in any case! :)


I always thought "tailbone" was was the lowest point of the vertebral column, where you might actually have a tail, which is right at the top of my butt crack. To me, being manx with no tail, they are synonymous.

I'm really glad to hear that I'm not the only one who has trouble telling where their tailbone is lol :D I think I'm going to call it though!!

[victor_tinyduck]

^ it's hard to tell, tailbone can be very hard to find, I think you're the only one who can understand if you're there or not.


Yes, these are definitely milestones which are very much up to you to call as best suits you. Let’s face it, some call tailbone BCL as well, so... You’re in the general area, so if you are happy calling it, please do so. ��


My tailbone is about 4 inches, maybe even an additional centimeter, away from bcl. For me, tailbone as a marker/milestone would only make sense when you use the lowest segment as a reference, because that is the point you can actually feel by touching^^ But you cannot discern it by looking at a picture. Your hair looks great in any case! :)


I always thought "tailbone" was was the lowest point of the vertebral column, where you might actually have a tail, which is right at the top of my butt crack. To me, being manx with no tail, they are synonymous.

I'm really glad to hear that I'm not the only one who has trouble telling where their tailbone is lol :D I think I'm going to call it though!!

[Handel'sWig]

Hopping on this thread for the first time since I now consider myself officially past waist and on the journey to hip/ tailbone. :cheer: :cheer: I'm only, at an estimate, about an inch and a half away from the tops of my hip bones. The journey from waist to hip is going to be much quicker than bra strap to waist. I'm short lol. :lol:


At this point my plan is to grow out to hip, then trim back to just past waist where I am now because I'll be past due for a trim :scissors: , and grow out all the way to hip then tailbone from there :grin: :heart:



I'm so proud of myself for my growth so far. Started from bra strap and things went slow at first but lately my progress has been amazing. :flower: I've learned a lot and I'm finally settled into a routine that avoids damage and keeps my hair growing out healthy.

[Eastbound&Down]

Hopping on this thread for the first time since I now consider myself officially past waist and on the journey to hip/ tailbone. :cheer: :cheer: I'm only, at an estimate, about an inch and a half away from the tops of my hip bones. The journey from waist to hip is going to be much quicker than bra strap to waist. I'm short lol. :lol:


At this point my plan is to grow out to hip, then trim back to just past waist where I am now because I'll be past due for a trim :scissors: , and grow out all the way to hip then tailbone from there :grin: :heart:



I'm so proud of myself for my growth so far. Started from bra strap and things went slow at first but lately my progress has been amazing. :flower: I've learned a lot and I'm finally settled into a routine that avoids damage and keeps my hair growing out healthy.

Thats awesome, congratulations!

[Jools69]

I always thought "tailbone" was was the lowest point of the vertebral column, where you might actually have a tail, which is right at the top of my butt crack. To me, being manx with no tail, they are synonymous.


I'm really glad to hear that I'm not the only one who has trouble telling where their tailbone is lol :D I think I'm going to call it though!!

The ‘tailbone’ or ‘coccyx‘ is indeed the lowest point of the vertebrae column, normally above the anus. However, since it doesn’t fuse until you’re about 30 (it’s in 3 pieces), probably is the reason why some people find it difficult to locate, or in a different position than other people. Especially, if it fuses at slightly different angles. For example, males tend to have tailbone pointing more towards the pelvic outlet (the cavity in the middle of the pelvis), whereas females have theirs pointing more outwards to accommodate pregnancy. Of course, you can also have anything in between these positions.

Well done on reaching tailbone victor_tinyduck!

[Jools69]

Hopping on this thread for the first time since I now consider myself officially past waist and on the journey to hip/ tailbone. :cheer: :cheer: I'm only, at an estimate, about an inch and a half away from the tops of my hip bones. The journey from waist to hip is going to be much quicker than bra strap to waist. I'm short lol. :lol:


At this point my plan is to grow out to hip, then trim back to just past waist where I am now because I'll be past due for a trim :scissors: , and grow out all the way to hip then tailbone from there :grin: :heart:



I'm so proud of myself for my growth so far. Started from bra strap and things went slow at first but lately my progress has been amazing. :flower: I've learned a lot and I'm finally settled into a routine that avoids damage and keeps my hair growing out healthy.

Yay! Congratulations! :D

I’m also following your strategy on reaching the next interim goal and then trimming it back to waist (or hip if I reach tailbone after the no-trimming challenge finishes at the end of the year). So that I can thicken my ends. ;)

[Handel'sWig]

Thats awesome, congratulations!

Thanks! :love:


Yay! Congratulations! :D

I’m also following your strategy on reaching the next interim goal and then trimming it back to waist (or hip if I reach tailbone after the no-trimming challenge finishes at the end of the year). So that I can thicken my ends. ;)

Awesome! Looks like we really are on the same journey together. Let's go! :bottomsup::beerchug: :heart:

[Belgrade Beauty]

Guys, great news! Bcl finally,at 88cm. April 2021 is the month I hit my goal. Here is a pic
https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44961&d=1617475829

[Finda]

Belgrade Beauty, congratulations for reaching your goal. Your hair looks great on white!:)

Will you grow some more or maintain?

[Bri-Chan]

victor_tinyduck congratulations for the milestone so!

Handel'sWig welcome to the thread!

Belgrade Beauty that's amazing and it looks amazing! How do you feel about it?

[pisinoe]

I’m going to put in an order for hair sticks, as my hair is now too heavy for my satin scrunchies to hold or wear a bun comfortably. I know I enjoy Alpenlandkunst but I also saw two beautiful Mapleburls that are on my cart now. Are they worth it? What’s your experience with those?

[Eastbound&Down]

Guys, great news! Bcl finally,at 88cm. April 2021 is the month I hit my goal. Here is a pic
https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44961&d=1617475829

Looks great!

[baanoo]

Congratulations, Beauty, Victor and Handel!! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: I’m excited for all of you! Beauty, it must feel so good to finally reach your goal!



I’m going to put in an order for hair sticks, as my hair is now too heavy for my satin scrunchies to hold or wear a bun comfortably. I know I enjoy Alpenlandkunst but I also saw two beautiful Mapleburls that are on my cart now. Are they worth it? What’s your experience with those?
I have two mapleburls (from the swap board here, actually) and while one is a little longer than I need, they’re both supremely comfortable, very stable, light, and beautiful. I really like them and would totally recommend them.

[pisinoe]

I have two mapleburls (from the swap board here, actually) and while one is a little longer than I need, they’re both supremely comfortable, very stable, light, and beautiful. I really like them and would totally recommend them.

Thank youuu! I really want to try them now. Do you have any other hair sticks you favor over them still just in case? :)


Guys, great news! Bcl finally,at 88cm. April 2021 is the month I hit my goal. Here is a pic
https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44961&d=1617475829

Omg congratulations!!! How do you feel? :D
Do you have any future plans now for it?

[pisinoe]

double post

[baanoo]

Thank youuu! I really want to try them now. Do you have any other hair sticks you favor over them still just in case?

My other favorites are some 2-prong acrylic forks from WindsongsAttic. My hair has a tendency to spit sticks right out, so I usually wear forks. The ones I have are great, minimal and super comfortable and I don’t worry about anything happening to them if I toss one in my bag.

[Finda]

I’m going to put in an order for hair sticks, as my hair is now too heavy for my satin scrunchies to hold or wear a bun comfortably. I know I enjoy Alpenlandkunst but I also saw two beautiful Mapleburls that are on my cart now. Are they worth it? What’s your experience with those?

I have a bunch of maple burl forks and I love them. Their thickness varies, so some forks can look more on the bulky side, while others are almost delicate. But all of them are super lightweight and very sturdy. And, of course, they are all very pretty!

[baanoo]

Thinking about the bcl / tbl discussion earlier - while intellectually I know that they’re the same, I had sort of decided that for me, “tbl” as a marker is really sit-bone-line, aka mid-butt when standing.

[Finda]

Thinking about the bcl / tbl discussion earlier - while intellectually I know that they’re the same, I had sort of decided that for me, “tbl” as a marker is really sit-bone-line, aka mid-butt when standing.

This reminds me, I wanted to thank Jools69 for her explanation earlier. I've been wondering if there is some kind of translation mistake I'm making about what tailbone means. I'm definitely not an expert on human anatomy and I have no idea how this might be different from person to person, but I can make out my coccyx midbutt (to the best of my knowledge:laugh:) and it's about halfway between bcl and classic. I do have a wide pelvis, and I remember getting horrible pain around my coccyx from having bike saddles that were too narrow. .

So long story short, I'd also define tailbone as mid-butt, but I realize it might be different for other people. And for me and my uneven hemline, markers are more of an approximation anyway ;)

[pisinoe]

It’s surprising to me that TBL and BCL can be so distant from each other on people? When I measured mine (;p) it was exactly in the same spot... So nothing worthwhile for me to differentiate 😅

It’s not midbutt on me, although that’s the marker I see on most.

[Bri-Chan]

Ah, milestone troubles are my favorite. They show how different bodies' anatomy can be.
On me, BCL stays at 93 cm, TBL at 99/100 cm, CL at 107/108 (I fins this hard to measure by myself) so on me tailbone falls right in the middle. I find surprising that the last bone falls exactly at bcl for someone! Are you sure you reached the end of the bone? Who knows if this has also to do with the body shape.
In my country, usually in hair pages/forum I've always seen the tailbone milestone placed at the beginning of the coccyx (at our BCL basically) so I've found it confusing when I joined this forum.

[pisinoe]

If I were to be very exact, I’d say TBL is 1cm underneath BCL, but there’s visually no difference imo

[baanoo]

You know, Bri, it looks like no. Here's a little diagram for all of us wondering about the bones in our booties. ;)

https://www.jnjmedicaldevices.com/sites/default/files/styles/crop_presets/public/2019-10/Spinal%20Column_0.jpg?itok=9KBpQt_6

:eye: I guess I didn't realize the coccyx went quite that far down?


Aside -
pisinoe, your new profile pic is really cute!

[Finda]

Thanks Baanoo, that's brilliant :D

[pisinoe]

Thank you, baanoo! I wish I could have hair like that irl but alas :P

Tomorrow hopefully my cousin will have time to measure my hair for me, I'm curious to find out how much it has grown but I also don't want to be disappointed lol.

[Jools69]

This reminds me, I wanted to thank Jools69 for her explanation earlier. I've been wondering if there is some kind of translation mistake I'm making about what tailbone means. I'm definitely not an expert on human anatomy and I have no idea how this might be different from person to person, but I can make out my coccyx midbutt (to the best of my knowledge:laugh:) and it's about halfway between bcl and classic. I do have a wide pelvis, and I remember getting horrible pain around my coccyx from having bike saddles that were too narrow. .

So long story short, I'd also define tailbone as mid-butt, but I realize it might be different for other people. And for me and my uneven hemline, markers are more of an approximation anyway ;)

Thank you. I must confess I’m studying Osteoarchaeology presently, learning about both human and animal skeletons, etc. It occurred to me after reading through the posts, the way the coccyx is situated in some people might be due to variations in bone fusing. Since it’s also a biological marker for determining sex, variations can also occur between the definite classification of males and females.

All those 3 hour practicals laying out the skeletons twice weekly has come in handy! ;)

[baanoo]

Thank you. I must confess I’m studying Osteoarchaeology presently, learning about both human and animal skeletons, etc. It occurred to me after reading through the posts, the way the coccyx is situated in some people might be due to variations in bone fusing. Since it’s also a biological marker for determining sex, variations can also occur between the definite classification of males and females.

All those 3 hour practicals laying out the skeletons twice weekly has come in handy! ;)
Wow, that is really cool!

[Belgrade Beauty]

So what y’all tellin me is that im on TBL?! Hahahah
Thanks everyone! Im ecstatic! As far as plans go, I’m thinking maybe finish the challenge in June and than cut back to where I am now. And from that moment on, just maintain so I can thicken my hemline and slowly get rid of splits and color :)

[bokeh]

So what y’all tellin me is that im on TBL?! Hahahah
Thanks everyone! Im ecstatic! As far as plans go, I’m thinking maybe finish the challenge in June and than cut back to where I am now. And from that moment on, just maintain so I can thicken my hemline and slowly get rid of splits and color :)What a great place to be. Congratulations on TBL.

[Finda]

Thank you. I must confess I’m studying Osteoarchaeology presently, learning about both human and animal skeletons, etc. It occurred to me after reading through the posts, the way the coccyx is situated in some people might be due to variations in bone fusing. Since it’s also a biological marker for determining sex, variations can also occur between the definite classification of males and females.

All those 3 hour practicals laying out the skeletons twice weekly has come in handy! ;)

I had to look up the term Osteoarchaeology, but that sounds super interesting! :D

[Bat]

Note to self after hip I'll call the next milestone Mid Butt you know, if I ever get There!

[Bugg]

Thank you. I must confess I’m studying Osteoarchaeology presently, learning about both human and animal skeletons, etc. It occurred to me after reading through the posts, the way the coccyx is situated in some people might be due to variations in bone fusing. Since it’s also a biological marker for determining sex, variations can also occur between the definite classification of males and females.

All those 3 hour practicals laying out the skeletons twice weekly has come in handy! ;)

That sounds so interesting! :D

[Jools69]

Wow, that is really cool!


I had to look up the term Osteoarchaeology, but that sounds super interesting! :D


That sounds so interesting! :D

Thanks. It’s a great programme and I’m learning so much. Not just about bones but teeth, horncores, animal remains, chemistry and physics, etc. including the history of human-animal relationships. I’ve had to learn a lot of these from scratch, as I never did science as a senior in high school.:o

[barnet_fair]

Congratulations, Belgrade Beauty. Your hair looks so lovely and long!


I’m going to put in an order for hair sticks, as my hair is now too heavy for my satin scrunchies to hold or wear a bun comfortably. I know I enjoy Alpenlandkunst but I also saw two beautiful Mapleburls that are on my cart now. Are they worth it? What’s your experience with those?

I imagine you've already placed your order, pisinoe, but here are my thoughts in case anyone is interested!

I have a three-prong Mapleburl (https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/727573550/the-hair-comb-328-is-made-of-african, not sure if visible) and a beautiful four-pronger which I bought from Milady_DeWinter on the swap board, both 151mm (tine length 126mm) I think. They are just stunning, iridescent and well made. I usually wear 5" or 6" sticks, so this size is appropriate and the dark ends of the tines blend into my hair while the topper shape looks like a little crown. Apart from colour, length, and number of tines, these forks also vary in topper shape. These are my "dress" hair forks which I use when I want to have my hair up and tidy all day/evening. They hold very well. The only concern I ever have with them is that the tines seem like they wouldn't like being shoved roughly into a messy bun with thick hair, that it would be possible in theory for my hair to break them. Nothing like this has ever happened, however. I wouldn't wear a Mapleburl if I had damp hair or if I knew I'd be taking it out and putting it in a bag or pocket unprotected.

My go-to hair sticks for quick bunning are Natural Craft (when dry) and Ketylo Dymondwood (when wet/oiled). I have a Jeter fork and a small Alpenlandkunst wood fork, but for some reason I find it hard to work a fork into a bun without snapping any hairs - perhaps I'm bunning too tightly and this problem will solve itself when I have enough hair to make loose but secure buns?

[barnet_fair]

This is lovely and exactly how I feel about it.

I’ve never been someone who wears their hair down all the time - even as a kid, I liked it up out of my face, but I do like to mix it up. Down, for me, is more tangly if I’m outside than a high ponytail (scarves and collars = the biggest rat’s nest when it’s down; a high pony keeps it away from my neck). I’m very conscious of the wind when I fix my hair!


Ponytails (just low ones, I can't wear high ones due to scalp discomfort) give me the most awful matted tangles at the nape. Thus, I never wear my hair in one except for a few minutes when I wash my face and/or brush my teeth and do skincare stuff and such. Wearing my hair loose, I certainly get tangles, but they're sort of all over the lengths rather than a severely matted spot in one area, so if I had to choose one, I'd definitely wear my hair loose.


This is very well put :)

I sacrificed ponytails as well, because I noticed a bad break line where the hair tie was, but it used to be one of my favorite styles. I remember getting really bad tangles and matted hair even, both in my ponytail and in my neck where the shorter nape hair didn't make it into the ponytail. Like Ylva, I got tangles when wearing my hair down, but less pronounced and more evenly distributed.

Also wanted to resurrect this discussion to present my theory about ponytail tangles. When the hair is in a ponytail, it has a thick circular cross-section, whereas when it is loose, it has a long thin cross-section. This means that when in a ponytail, there are more ends in close proximity to other ends, with which they can tangle. In addition, the ponytail lines up ends of different lengths with each other, so it is possible for the ends of longer hairs to grab onto the ends of shorter hairs, if that makes sense. When let down, some longer hairs are then bending backwards in their tangle with shorter hairs, which is a particularly bad form of tangling for me.

I'm very fortunate never to experience nape tangles for some reason, which is surprising as I have a lot of coarse nape hairs. My hair has also never been matted - I wonder if this is also less likely with coarse hair.

[pisinoe]

Congratulations, Belgrade Beauty. Your hair looks so lovely and long!



I imagine you've already placed your order, pisinoe, but here are my thoughts in case anyone is interested!

I have a three-prong Mapleburl (https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/727573550/the-hair-comb-328-is-made-of-african, not sure if visible) and a beautiful four-pronger which I bought from Milady_DeWinter on the swap board, both 151mm (tine length 126mm) I think. They are just stunning, iridescent and well made. I usually wear 5" or 6" sticks, so this size is appropriate and the dark ends of the tines blend into my hair while the topper shape looks like a little crown. Apart from colour, length, and number of tines, these forks also vary in topper shape. These are my "dress" hair forks which I use when I want to have my hair up and tidy all day/evening. They hold very well. The only concern I ever have with them is that the tines seem like they wouldn't like being shoved roughly into a messy bun with thick hair, that it would be possible in theory for my hair to break them. Nothing like this has ever happened, however. I wouldn't wear a Mapleburl if I had damp hair or if I knew I'd be taking it out and putting it in a bag or pocket unprotected.

My go-to hair sticks for quick bunning are Natural Craft (when dry) and Ketylo Dymondwood (when wet/oiled). I have a Jeter fork and a small Alpenlandkunst wood fork, but for some reason I find it hard to work a fork into a bun without snapping any hairs - perhaps I'm bunning too tightly and this problem will solve itself when I have enough hair to make loose but secure buns?

Really appreciate the review and sharing your experience! I'll try to pay extra attention to mine :D

[pisinoe]

My hair has finally reached the elastic band of my underwear! Which means it has hit butt, and I'm closer than ever to TBL! woohoo! I really wish I could make it in three months!

[Eastbound&Down]

My hair has finally reached the elastic band of my underwear! Which means it has hit butt, and I'm closer than ever to TBL! woohoo! I really wish I could make it in three months!

How exciting!

[baanoo]

Also wanted to resurrect this discussion to present my theory about ponytail tangles. When the hair is in a ponytail, it has a thick circular cross-section, whereas when it is loose, it has a long thin cross-section. This means that when in a ponytail, there are more ends in close proximity to other ends, with which they can tangle. In addition, the ponytail lines up ends of different lengths with each other, so it is possible for the ends of longer hairs to grab onto the ends of shorter hairs, if that makes sense. When let down, some longer hairs are then bending backwards in their tangle with shorter hairs, which is a particularly bad form of tangling for me.

I'm very fortunate never to experience nape tangles for some reason, which is surprising as I have a lot of coarse nape hairs. My hair has also never been matted - I wonder if this is also less likely with coarse hair.

This cross-section theory makes sense to me. I have to confess, since upping my haircare game I haven't had the types of tangling I used to get when I still thought fine hair = don't give it too much moisture and was blowdrying on the regular.

I suspect you're also right that coarse hair is less prone to matting; DH's hair is coarse (and very curly) and while he treats it terribly it still doesn't get the types of mats I would get if I left it in ponytails with goody elastics for days at a time.

[Bri-Chan]

This cross-section theory makes sense to me. I have to confess, since upping my haircare game I haven't had the types of tangling I used to get when I still thought fine hair = don't give it too much moisture and was blowdrying on the regular.

I suspect you're also right that coarse hair is less prone to matting; DH's hair is coarse (and very curly) and while he treats it terribly it still doesn't get the types of mats I would get if I left it in ponytails with goody elastics for days at a time.

What do you do now? My fine hair tangles a lot.... hate it.

[pisinoe]

I never had problem with tangles until I got to hip and started using non-high end products. While here in South America I bought a bunch of local products and at first my hair looked nice but then it started matting and tangling horribly, I never had so much breakage in my life before. I’d finger detangle it and 5 minutes later my hair was a mess again. I used up all the stuff and went back to my professional products and the problem went away completely. Maybe my hair is just a high-maintenance monster lol. With that said, I do have to deep condition very often (or every single wash) and I always do LCO for my hair. Oil the length everyday.



How exciting!

Thank you! :heart:

[baanoo]

What do you do now? My fine hair tangles a lot.... hate it.

Don't get me wrong, my hair still tangles, but not the epic rats' nest tangles it used to get (the hours of detangling kind) - I think the added moisture and oiling is what really helped turn it around. My hair seems to be much less prone to tangles at hip than it was at (for example) apl-bsl, which is wild.

[Ylva]

I don't know why but even though my strands are rather fine (I'm still not sure if they are F or F/M), my healthy hair just doesn't tangle (except at the nape if I'm wearing a ponytail or doing something extra stupid). Even the once-bleached, relatively healthy parts of my hair don't really tangle. Maybe it's because my hair is low porosity? It has always been that way as long as it was at least somewhat healthy, just really slippery and well-behaved in that sense. But I guess it will go the other way round, too - hairstyles won't hold easily!

[foreveryours]

My hair seems to be much less prone to tangles at hip than it was at (for example) apl-bsl, which is wild.

That is :D I had zero tangles at that length but I hit tangles around kidney level and it's only gotten worse with age. That's why I almost never let it out of a braid. It's the only way I've ever been able to manage it for the last 4 years or so

[Bri-Chan]

Don't get me wrong, my hair still tangles, but not the epic rats' nest tangles it used to get (the hours of detangling kind) - I think the added moisture and oiling is what really helped turn it around. My hair seems to be much less prone to tangles at hip than it was at (for example) apl-bsl, which is wild.
Pre-poo oiling? I don't do this often.. When I had shorter hair, I had way more tangles because I used to brush it dry and this on me causes a lot of tangles from roots to tips. I needed to detangle everyday, at least once a day.


I don't know why but even though my strands are rather fine (I'm still not sure if they are F or F/M), my healthy hair just doesn't tangle (except at the nape if I'm wearing a ponytail or doing something extra stupid). Even the once-bleached, relatively healthy parts of my hair don't really tangle. Maybe it's because my hair is low porosity? It has always been that way as long as it was at least somewhat healthy, just really slippery and well-behaved in that sense. But I guess it will go the other way round, too - hairstyles won't hold easily!
I think the low porosity could be the reason. Or a combination of that and the amount of conditioner that you use?

[baanoo]

Pre-poo oiling? I don't do this often.. When I had shorter hair, I had way more tangles because I used to brush it dry and this on me causes a lot of tangles from roots to tips. I needed to detangle everyday, at least once a day.


I think the low porosity could be the reason. Or a combination of that and the amount of conditioner that you use?

Both pre-poo oiling and after I wash it - I always oil the last 20-30cm when it’s damp and often add a little on the very ends on the second and third day. I detangle in the mornings (usually very few tangles) and brush it out in the evening before I put it up for bed.

[baanoo]

That is :D I had zero tangles at that length but I hit tangles around kidney level and it's only gotten worse with age. That's why I almost never let it out of a braid. It's the only way I've ever been able to manage it for the last 4 years or so

How interesting! Do you oil the lengths?

[foreveryours]

How interesting! Do you oil the lengths?

Yes I do, every morning

[Bat]

My hair has finally reached the elastic band of my underwear! Which means it has hit butt, and I'm closer than ever to TBL! woohoo! I really wish I could make it in three months!

BCL then! Which is exciting

[baanoo]

My hair has finally reached the elastic band of my underwear! Which means it has hit butt, and I'm closer than ever to TBL! woohoo! I really wish I could make it in three months!

Ooh how exciting!


Yes I do, every morning

What do you think changed once you passed hip length? Accumulated mechanical damage?

[baanoo]

I don't know why but even though my strands are rather fine (I'm still not sure if they are F or F/M), my healthy hair just doesn't tangle (except at the nape if I'm wearing a ponytail or doing something extra stupid). Even the once-bleached, relatively healthy parts of my hair don't really tangle. Maybe it's because my hair is low porosity? It has always been that way as long as it was at least somewhat healthy, just really slippery and well-behaved in that sense. But I guess it will go the other way round, too - hairstyles won't hold easily!
My hair is low porosity too, I think - and can slip out of a hairstyle quicker than anything. It was a sad day when I realized that sticks just aren’t going to work for me because my hair will cheerfully spit them out no matter how tightly bunned it is! Pins fall from my head, too; it’s very impressive. Even with braids, my hair tries its hardest to throw off the yoke of the oppressors binding the ends.

[wispe]

Hit bcl finally! Am at 87 cm. I measured tbl to be at 93 cm for me, so I’ll still be here a while yet. Hoping weather in my area clears up soon soo I can take some decent length shots. :o

[foreveryours]

What do you think changed once you passed hip length? Accumulated mechanical damage?

Maybe, but I don't have split ends. I think it just got longer :p

A strand's intrinsic stiffness tends to prevent formation of knots and tangles so the longer a strand is, the easier it can bend around on itself and others. And the more difficult it can be to use arms which stopped growwing years ago to reverse the process

[pisinoe]

BCL then! Which is exciting

Not BCL, but definitely not far away :)

[Finda]

Hit bcl finally! Am at 87 cm. I measured tbl to be at 93 cm for me, so I’ll still be here a while yet. Hoping weather in my area clears up soon soo I can take some decent length shots. :o

That's great! Congratulations :)

[Bat]

Not BCL, but definitely not far away :)
That's super exciting

[BexLocks]

Hit bcl finally! Am at 87 cm. I measured tbl to be at 93 cm for me, so I’ll still be here a while yet. Hoping weather in my area clears up soon soo I can take some decent length shots. :o
Congrats! I think I'm nearly there, too. For some reason I'm hesitating to call it yet. Can't wait to see new pics!

[baanoo]

Maybe, but I don't have split ends. I think it just got longer :p

A strand's intrinsic stiffness tends to prevent formation of knots and tangles so the longer a strand is, the easier it can bend around on itself and others. And the more difficult it can be to use arms which stopped growwing years ago to reverse the process

This is such a perfect description.


Hit bcl finally! Am at 87 cm. I measured tbl to be at 93 cm for me, so I’ll still be here a while yet. Hoping weather in my area clears up soon soo I can take some decent length shots. :o

How exciting! :o looking forward to seeing your photos soon!

[Jools69]

Hit bcl finally! Am at 87 cm. I measured tbl to be at 93 cm for me, so I’ll still be here a while yet. Hoping weather in my area clears up soon soo I can take some decent length shots. :o

Well done. I’m sure you’ll be at tailbone in no time!

[wispe]

Thanks guys! I still haven't gotten the pictures I wanted to get (just ones where my hair is fluffy, still air-drying, or wurly enough at the ends to make length shots deceptive). I did some math and I have room for probably 1.5-2" of trims this year and if my growth rate stays average, I should reach TBL by December. I trim more on an as-needed basis, I didn't join any no-trim challenges this year, but aside from strongly considering cutting in bangs last month, not feeling like I need any trims yet. Sorta still considering some sort of long face-frame orr curtain bang, but afraid to go for it myself and pretty wary of getting a hairdresser to do it without chopping off my "dead ends" and setting me back tons of growth. Going to have to think on this one a bit further. The longer my hair gets the more high-risk bangs seem, since the grow-out would take so long.

Here's a fluffy length-shot cropped to approx tbl (mid-booty). I've given up asking my ends to lay flat for photos, so it really only looks like hip length.
https://i.imgur.com/Sape4DE.jpg?1

[JasminxCat]

Almost at waist here I'm an inch close. I feel like I have a really long back and a really small butt :lol: so TBL seems a decade away

[ipickee]

Thanks guys! I still haven't gotten the pictures I wanted to get (just ones where my hair is fluffy, still air-drying, or wurly enough at the ends to make length shots deceptive). I did some math and I have room for probably 1.5-2" of trims this year and if my growth rate stays average, I should reach TBL by December. I trim more on an as-needed basis, I didn't join any no-trim challenges this year, but aside from strongly considering cutting in bangs last month, not feeling like I need any trims yet. Sorta still considering some sort of long face-frame orr curtain bang, but afraid to go for it myself and pretty wary of getting a hairdresser to do it without chopping off my "dead ends" and setting me back tons of growth. Going to have to think on this one a bit further. The longer my hair gets the more high-risk bangs seem, since the grow-out would take so long.

Here's a fluffy length-shot cropped to approx tbl (mid-booty). I've given up asking my ends to lay flat for photos, so it really only looks like hip length.
https://i.imgur.com/Sape4DE.jpg?1

This whole two-tone thing you have going....*chefs kiss*

[ipickee]

*Stoopid computer. Double post.

[baanoo]

Thanks guys! I still haven't gotten the pictures I wanted to get (just ones where my hair is fluffy, still air-drying, or wurly enough at the ends to make length shots deceptive). I did some math and I have room for probably 1.5-2" of trims this year and if my growth rate stays average, I should reach TBL by December. I trim more on an as-needed basis, I didn't join any no-trim challenges this year, but aside from strongly considering cutting in bangs last month, not feeling like I need any trims yet. Sorta still considering some sort of long face-frame orr curtain bang, but afraid to go for it myself and pretty wary of getting a hairdresser to do it without chopping off my "dead ends" and setting me back tons of growth. Going to have to think on this one a bit further. The longer my hair gets the more high-risk bangs seem, since the grow-out would take so long.

Here's a fluffy length-shot cropped to approx tbl (mid-booty). I've given up asking my ends to lay flat for photos, so it really only looks like hip length.
Sooo close! And so cute as always. :crush:

I can’t imagine a decent stylist trying to give someone a trim if they came in only for bangs! Have I just been lucky?

[baanoo]

Well, friends, if I was the type to call a milestone dripping wet, I could call bcl (though barely) - I think in another few months or so it will make it dry.

[baanoo]

Almost at waist here I'm an inch close. I feel like I have a really long back and a really small butt :lol: so TBL seems a decade away

I remember feeling like bsb to waist being the longest trudge in the history of hair growing.

[Jools69]

I remember feeling like bsb to waist being the longest trudge in the history of hair growing.

Indeed it is! The amount of times I’ve given up or got bored trying to reach waist, because of the ‘abyss’. This time I managed to persevered.

[Bat]

they call it the mid back abyss for a reason!

shoulder to apl is also another abyss, at least on me

[Bri-Chan]

Beautiful wispe!
I can't wait to see my hair at fully BCL with my natural texture.

[wo]

I think I hit waist this month freshly washed and curliest. I don't have a specific goal but this is where I'll be for a long time. :)
https://i.postimg.cc/0QmmVQf3/20210417-192149.jpg (https://postimg.cc/qhJzRpWX)

[baanoo]

Wo, looking beautiful! I’m always so excited for my curly sisters - welcome aboard! :flowers:

[wo]

Thank you, I'm happy to be here!

[Bri-Chan]

Your curls are fabulous!

[pisinoe]

Beautiful hair, wo!

How's everyone here hanging on? I'm becoming very impatient, but still committed :meditate:

[baanoo]

I was examining my new growth this morning when braiding my hair and am feeling a little bit bummed about how long the thickness is going to take to travel down. I think I lost maybe a quarter of my hair last year after I was sick? I also had mayyyybe one silver before and now there are so many! Between the stress of illness, covid, and relationship stresses that have been elevated by covid-related issues, it’s just damn, I did not need to lose so much hair. I’ll be at classic with a fun chin-length layer. :(

At some point I’m going to need to start maintaining, I suppose. It doesn’t look too thin but it does bother me because I was solidly iii before all this. Giant fluffy untwisted cinnabuns at bsb and everything!

[Belgrade Beauty]

Beautiful hair, wo!

How's everyone here hanging on? I'm becoming very impatient, but still committed :meditate:
I was wondering where everyone is :)

I was examining my new growth this morning when braiding my hair and am feeling a little bit bummed about how long the thickness is going to take to travel down. I think I lost maybe a quarter of my hair last year after I was sick? I also had mayyyybe one silver before and now there are so many! Between the stress of illness, covid, and relationship stresses that have been elevated by covid-related issues, it’s just damn, I did not need to lose so much hair. I’ll be at classic with a fun chin-length layer. :(

At some point I’m going to need to start maintaining, I suppose. It doesn’t look too thin but it does bother me because I was solidly iii before all this. Giant fluffy untwisted cinnabuns at bsb and everything!
I’m so sorry about that... I really can relate. I’m in the middle of the great spring shed. I feel like when it’s done my hair will be bsl... Want to maintain but can’t split the hair right. Husband won’t help, and I have zero confidence in any hairdresser around me... Si yeah. Imma hit legit mid-butt before I get a decent cut :(

[bokeh]

I was examining my new growth this morning when braiding my hair and am feeling a little bit bummed about how long the thickness is going to take to travel down. I think I lost maybe a quarter of my hair last year after I was sick? I also had mayyyybe one silver before and now there are so many! Between the stress of illness, covid, and relationship stresses that have been elevated by covid-related issues, it’s just damn, I did not need to lose so much hair. I’ll be at classic with a fun chin-length layer. :(

At some point I’m going to need to start maintaining, I suppose. It doesn’t look too thin but it does bother me because I was solidly iii before all this. Giant fluffy untwisted cinnabuns at bsb and everything!
I'm really sorry baanoo and I'm another one who can really relate because I've recently lost about a half inch in the circumference of my ponytail due to illness. I also went from a iii to a ii but fortunately mine also doesn't look too thin.

I hope that your excessive hair loss has stopped and that your hair continues to grow to your goal successfully then when you start maintaining you can enjoy watching the thickness grow closer and closer to your hemline.

[pisinoe]

I'm shedding a lot too due to covid, stress and scalp issues. Thankfully the scalp issues are under control now and I'm less stressed, but I think I'll have to maintain starting next year as well. But let's not worry too much about that! Microtrimming is still very useful.

In the future I want to take care of my hair as much as possible so I may also enjoy it as much as I can to be honest. Once I hit my length goal I'll try not too worry about thickness so much and do what I can while I wait for it to travel down as well!

[baanoo]

Thanks friends, I’ve stopped shedding - a lot of the regrowth is about 4” long, some longer some shorter, of course - I feel my overall health has improved and my hair health has definitely improved! Sometimes I just throw a little pity-party and then have to let it go. It’s only hair, after all!

[Finda]

Thanks friends, I’ve stopped shedding - a lot of the regrowth is about 4” long, some longer some shorter, of course - I feel my overall health has improved and my hair health has definitely improved! Sometimes I just throw a little pity-party and then have to let it go. It’s only hair, after all!

I'm happy for you the shed is over and that healthwise you are doing better! And that you have evidence of that with your regrowth! It must have been scary and it warrants a bit of lamenting in my book.

[Bri-Chan]

baanoo, glad it stopped and your health has improved.

I'm like 1.2 inches far from TBL. After waiting so long for hip to bcl, this seems insane.

[Belgrade Beauty]

baanoo, glad it stopped and your health has improved.

I'm like 1.2 inches far from TBL. After waiting so long for hip to bcl, this seems insane.

Its a short trip babe :) I’m now solid BcL, not brush ih anymore :)

[baanoo]

Really exciting, Bri!

As an aside, I think I’ve finally gained back the last of the weight I lost last year - which surely must help! I know weight is a sensitive topic for folks, but I really didn’t have ~ 4.5kg / 10lbs to lose. Judging by how my jeans fit (the only way I know) I think I’m back to normal.

[Handel'sWig]

Tailbone is going to take foreverrr on me. :cry: Compared to the rest of me, which is generally tiny, I have a big butt lol. Distance from waist-hip is short but hip- tbl - not so much.

[JasminxCat]

I'm shedding a lot too due to covid, stress and scalp issues. Thankfully the scalp issues are under control now and I'm less stressed, but I think I'll have to maintain starting next year as well. But let's not worry too much about that! Microtrimming is still very useful.

In the future I want to take care of my hair as much as possible so I may also enjoy it as much as I can to be honest. Once I hit my length goal I'll try not too worry about thickness so much and do what I can while I wait for it to travel down as well!

Your hair looks so amazingly thick throughout to me. If I were you, I wouldn't worry about it as much. For me, I have thin hair, on top of shedding a lot and uneven growth, so when it starts thinning even more on the ends, it's like, hell, I might as well not have hair. Do you do anything particularly for volume or is that just natural? :p

[pisinoe]

Your hair looks so amazingly thick throughout to me. If I were you, I wouldn't worry about it as much. For me, I have thin hair, on top of shedding a lot and uneven growth, so when it starts thinning even more on the ends, it's like, hell, I might as well not have hair. Do you do anything particularly for volume or is that just natural? :p

Thank you, that's very kind of you! I guess it's natural because I have poofy hair by nature and lots of it, but I never managed to get it this long before without the ends looking destroyed on me. I do a lot of hair treatments (capillary schedule) and use a protective leave-in and oil on the ends every time I wash, then silicone oil everyday on the ends as well and don't have any splits anymore (before they'd start showing up at APL). I noticed a big difference in hair quality and thickness retention down the length when I started taking care of it more because mine is so dry and porous...

This was my hair before starting it:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801610826016096261/835364457953361970/image0.webp

When I want my hair to look nice, I let it air dry to 70% and then use my blowdryer in medium heat, once it's dry I put some oil, put it up in a twisted bun and then after a while let it down and that's how it looks voluminous with some nice waves. I'm not sure if this answers your question though!

[Jools69]

I think I hit waist this month freshly washed and curliest. I don't have a specific goal but this is where I'll be for a long time. :)
https://i.postimg.cc/0QmmVQf3/20210417-192149.jpg (https://postimg.cc/qhJzRpWX)

Lovely curls.

[cestlavie]

Tailbone is going to take foreverrr on me. :cry: Compared to the rest of me, which is generally tiny, I have a big butt lol. Distance from waist-hip is short but hip- tbl - not so much.

This! My butt is big too and I think hip to tbl will take me 1,5 year at least.

[pisinoe]

Just measured my hair and I'm excited again! I should reach TBL in 2-3 months! :pray:

[foreveryours]

Just measured my hair and I'm excited again! I should reach TBL in 2-3 months! :pray:

:cheer:

Yay! Are you starting to sit on it yet?

[pisinoe]

:cheer:

Yay! Are you starting to sit on it yet?

No, not at all! I think it'll be a while until then. TBL is at ~93cm on me, almost mid butt but not really. For me to sit on it, I think I'll have to be halfway down to classic at 100cm. Was that your experience though?

[foreveryours]

When I reached TBL (which for me is essentially BCL) a couple of years ago, my ends reached whatever I was sitting on so they'd start getting caught between me and whatever I happened to sit on depending on how I actually sat down (body/head movements, etc). That was the most memorable feature of my hair to me at that stage - beginning to be a pita. Now my braid tassel is at that same level and until I get around to using a shorter braid lol I've got to "clear it" from the area before sitting.

[JasminxCat]

Tailbone is going to take foreverrr on me. :cry: Compared to the rest of me, which is generally tiny, I have a big butt lol. Distance from waist-hip is short but hip- tbl - not so much.


This! My butt is big too and I think hip to tbl will take me 1,5 year at least.

Idk about anyone else but my butt is small as in, it's like, so far down my back? Or my back is very long and my butt is short/small. So tbl feels far away for me too

[Bri-Chan]

Its a short trip babe :) I’m now solid BcL, not brush ih anymore :)

Yay! It feel satisfying to finally have hair long enough to reach that area.

[baanoo]

Crossposting for fun :p

This morning's freshly-washed and nearly-dry hair - clumping into some exaggerated fairytale ends!

https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=45169&d=1619463306

[Dark40]

My hair has finally reached the elastic band of my underwear! Which means it has hit butt, and I'm closer than ever to TBL! woohoo! I really wish I could make it in three months!

Congratulations on your new milestone! You are soooo blessed to be at butt now! And, so close to ever being at TBL! woohoo! I bet you do really wish you could make it there in three months. Who knows? The two lengths are so close. You might make it there in three months.

[Dark40]

When I reached TBL (which for me is essentially BCL) a couple of years ago, my ends reached whatever I was sitting on so they'd start getting caught between me and whatever I happened to sit on depending on how I actually sat down (body/head movements, etc). That was the most memorable feature of my hair to me at that stage - beginning to be a pita. Now my braid tassel is at that same level and until I get around to using a shorter braid lol I've got to "clear it" from the area before sitting.

I'd also say TBL and BCL are the same on me as well. Since my height is so short 4ft 11" tall, and where my hair is now MBL TBL isn't that fat from it. I mean, it's just a few inches down. I would say 7" away, and I feel that I can reach that within a few months or a year from now.

[Dark40]

Just measured my hair and I'm excited again! I should reach TBL in 2-3 months! :pray:

Yay!!! :cheers: I'm so happy for you! If you're that close as you say you are you should reach TBL in 2-3 months from now! :pray: