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juliaxena
August 16th, 2010, 08:06 AM
I have two coworkers that came up with an idea to dye their hair with the same color they already have, because they think their hair is shinier that way. I haven't seen their natural texture, but could this be true? What is the cause wheter your hair is shiny or not anyway?

Joliebaby
August 16th, 2010, 08:08 AM
Freshly dyed hair may look shiny, but I think in the long run un-dyed natural hair is shinier!! Old dye can make her duller, especially if there is damage.

luluj
August 16th, 2010, 08:21 AM
Even if they dye their hair their "natural" shade, they will still have to contend with roots. Hair dye fades after just a couple of weeks and starts to lose its shine. ;)

irisheyes
August 16th, 2010, 08:58 AM
I'm sure there are hair care professionals here who can correct me if I'm wrong, but these are my thoughts on this subject: Permanant hair dyes lift the scales on the hair shaft in order to permit the dye to penetrate, then the scales lay flat again when the dye is washed off. That's why the hair is so shiny afterwards. There is a no color product on the market that does the same thing, called Shine Happy by Clairol.

Phexlyn
August 16th, 2010, 09:03 AM
I used to do this... well, sort of.
My hair is medium/dark blonde, and I used cassia over it to give it more golden hues (so the colour is fairly natural with no visible roots) and it gave me extra shine as well. The cassia fades out for me in a month, so I could stop it any time if I wanted to. No damage done if you manage to combat the dryness that comes from the cassia directly after the application. (I'm now doing cassia & henna to get a reddish shine, same principle, it just adds a tad more colour).

Concerning you coworkers, I assume they are talking about chemical dye?
Yes, the dye will make their hair shinier for a while, then the shine dulls and the colour has to be renewed. You can achieve the same effect with semi-permanent dye, but the shine and colour will fade as well (might also fade quicker than permanent dye).
Depending on their hair and the dye, this might or might not cause visible damage. If they pamper it, this might work.
However, it may be hard to match their natural shade exactly, so they might get visible roots or a touch of reddish/brownish/some other colour tint to their hair.
Also, if they're willing to do that sort of upkeep (colouring every 4-6 weeks, pampering hair to minimize visual damage and keep it in good condition), they could as well start to treat their hair in a healthy way and get more shine... it just takes longer and is not as fast, so not a solution for everyone ;)

Shiny hair is achieved by keeping your hair healthy and in good condition, meaning that the scales on your hair lie flat and do not "stand up". That way, they reflect the light better and that's what gives you more shine.

juliaxena
August 16th, 2010, 09:53 AM
My lenght is dyed but my roots are not. I don't really notice any difference in the shine. My hair is still too short to see real dye damage so that could change in the future. I considered myself lucky not to lose shine after dying my hair, I never would have thought dye can actually make your hair shinier. I'm not sure I'm convinced still.

GlennaGirl
August 16th, 2010, 11:14 AM
Not me. :( I know my mother used to do this and it seemed to work. On me, I get soopa-doopa shine (with chemical colorants) for a week, then...serious dullness. Really bad dullness.

Henna and indigo makes my hair really shine but I would NOT recommend this to you as your blonde is so beautiful. :)

I personally would look into other shine methods if that's your main goal.

lastnite
August 16th, 2010, 11:25 AM
are they long hairs? If they have shorter hair they might be able to get away with the coloring. Otherwise, what about the clear glosses out? like this one (http://www.sallybeauty.com/Haircolor-Enhancer/ARDELL15,default,pd.html) and John Frieda has one out as well without ammonia or peroxide.

juliaxena
August 16th, 2010, 11:45 AM
Not me. :( I know my mother used to do this and it seemed to work. On me, I get soopa-doopa shine (with chemical colorants) for a week, then...serious dullness. Really bad dullness.

Henna and indigo makes my hair really shine but I would NOT recommend this to you as your blonde is so beautiful. :)

I personally would look into other shine methods if that's your main goal.

Oh, no thanks, my hair is shiny - slippery enough thank you very much. If anything I'd like it fuller and less silky, which is what a hair dresser promised me would happen if I dyed it. But apparently it is not what I should want.



They have about chin lenght hair.

x0h_bother
August 16th, 2010, 12:55 PM
This is the same reason I am looking into cassia. I would love to dye my hair for the shine of it, but I like my color and don't want damage.

chelssix
August 16th, 2010, 01:16 PM
Using a clear demi-permanent would work (do NOT use the stuff from the drugstore, as it can lighten hair). It's a deposit only color, and there will be no roots or fade. The shine will dull eventually, but it would just go back to looking like your hair did in the first place.

But if you're going to do that, you may as well just use a shine serum. ;)

little_cherry
August 16th, 2010, 05:11 PM
Clear elumen would do the trick. It's non damaging. Also, there's cassia. Make a paste with it and mix it with conditioner. Lovely shine treatment.

x0h_bother
August 29th, 2010, 07:18 PM
EDIT: Sorry I thought this was the other thread I posted about this topic..but my comments still apply though I am not the OP ;)

Using a clear demi-permanent would work (do NOT use the stuff from the drugstore, as it can lighten hair). It's a deposit only color, and there will be no roots or fade. The shine will dull eventually, but it would just go back to looking like your hair did in the first place.

But if you're going to do that, you may as well just use a shine serum. ;)
Is this the same as Elumen, and does it merely deposit color? I'm not sure where to get a clear demi-permanent, Sally's?


Clear elumen would do the trick. It's non damaging. Also, there's cassia. Make a paste with it and mix it with conditioner. Lovely shine treatment.
I have been wanting to do this, but I am moving into an apartment and I hear it is messy so I don't want to mess up the tub. I'm going to beg a friend to let me borrow her sink/tub (her apartment building is less strict.)

Sherwood
August 29th, 2010, 10:57 PM
I have done this, sort of. My natural color is a gold red (Titian, my mother called it). Some years ago I would do a henna rinse, which didn't change the color, but made my hair shiny, and it felt thicker. I did this mostly in the winter when the hair was looking sort of dull. Since I have started getting gray streaks I don't do this anymore, as it makes the gray look yellow, which I don't like. The best thing for shininess, I've found, is a vinegar rinse, and letting the sun dry my hair - but I seldom have time for that LOL.