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Elistariel
July 27th, 2010, 03:00 AM
I don't know what else to call it, but I cannot for the life of me, figure out how to make one.

What I want is to have a high ponytail and have the hair underneath it, on my scalp to stay smooth. Instead it sags down, or even more annoying is when it forms a sort of ridge starting at the elastic. I've tried doing a high braid, with the elastic at the end, that's even worse. :mad:

via a google search, I want this: http://meghibberd.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/sleek-ponytail1.jpg
Not this: http://www.limelife.com/R/ResourceModule/generated/rs_spl75856_010_w_320_h_412_w_300_h_395.jpg

Loose elastic or tighter than a tick elastic the back of my hair still sags and it annoying the ever loving... out of me.

Tips?

Lassie
July 27th, 2010, 03:42 AM
What seems to work for me is to tip my head upside down and brush it into a ponytail like that....
Other tips might be to slighty dampen your hair, or what i do is wet the comb that i am using so that its wet as i am brushing my hair into the pony tail.
Also try and secure the elastic as close as possible to your scalp, then when you have secured it, gently pull your hair in your pony tail...so grab the hair that in the pony tail and pull it - as if you were fanning it out - this makes the elastic sit closer to your scalp
Hope this helps..

GoddesJourney
July 27th, 2010, 03:44 AM
This actually gets more and more difficult as your hair gets longer, but you should still be able to do it at 25". Start with wet hair and comb a little get/aloe/mouse/other product through it to keep everything smooth and flat against your head. It may require a brush. Make sure you have a nice and strong elastic. Try using two. I used to always use two when doing any hair securing in any style because I simply hated dealing with it falling out or sagging.

Phexlyn
July 27th, 2010, 04:08 AM
I suggest using some product (I usually use hair wax) to get your hair really smooth. Tilting you head slightly backwards while gathering the hair for the pony might help. A hair bungee (hairtie with hooks at the ends) might help as well, they can be fastened tighter than the usual elastics.

As you hair gets longer/heavier you will not be able to avoid sagging completely, I'm afraid.

kristymarie87
July 27th, 2010, 04:21 AM
I ususally dampen my hair or do it after a wash, tip my head back (not front!) and brushi it all up. Afterwards i get a comb with narrow teeth? and use that to smooth it all. Most of the time, there is still a little bump though just fromt he weight of the hair and the direction its going.

frizzinator
July 27th, 2010, 05:17 AM
Maybe this link to Igor's article about making a ponytail might help: http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=98

I'm thinking you could do the same thing under your ponytail that she does above her ponytail.

Sammich
July 27th, 2010, 05:36 AM
I'd suggest using a wet comb to comb it upwards when you have your head forward, and then use product if you're willing... but I didn't have to use product to do it at your length. :p
Also a tighter ponytail will help, with a tight band. :)

Mine didn't stay up very long though, 3 hours? :p

pepperminttea
July 27th, 2010, 06:37 AM
I find my ponytails stay a lot better with Torrin's method of tying them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmTL4cvr7q0 (it starts around about 2:45 of the way through)

I don't do them often, because, well, they hurt, but when I do, this method works brilliantly.

jasper
July 27th, 2010, 06:49 AM
Damp hair wouldn't work for me because water encourages my 1c hair to go for its 2a look. I use a boar's bristle brush on dry hair when I am going for smooth.

And I almost hate to recommend really grippy elastics because they do grab hair and want to keep it, but have you tried these? (http://a1468.g.akamai.net/f/1468/580/1d/pics.Drugstore.com/prodimg/206745/200.JPG)

GRU
July 27th, 2010, 07:24 AM
I also recommend bending over at the waist while making the ponytail. This allows you to keep it sag-free while you're fastening it, instead of trying to un-sag it after the fact.

lapushka
July 27th, 2010, 08:30 AM
Just at the last moment, before putting in the elastic, tilt your head backwards, then smooth the back section (again) and tie the elastic.

eezepeeze
July 30th, 2010, 09:14 PM
Maybe if you start a little higher on your head than you want to end up. That way you'll have a little headstart on the anti-sag. Also, try flipping upside down to smooth the back, and then flipping back up, ponytail in hand, and smoothing the front into the pony.