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Aliped
June 21st, 2010, 04:14 PM
In a recent thread by Dreams_in_Pink (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/member.php?u=19985) about hair that needs to be long, triangle head was mentioned. This is a HUGE problem for me. My straight hair with bangs lies flat on my head until it approaches waist length, where it starts to get poufy, creating a triangle. This is why I never wear my hair down.:mad:

I never trim, have fairy tale ends and have also recently gone SLS and cone free. I think this may have exacerbated the problem.

I have seen triangle head mentioned sporadically on this forum, which suggests I’m not the only one facing this.:confused:

AFAIK, potential solutions include a V-shaped hemline or layers. Anybody else got any opinions, suggestions or want to share their frustrations at triangle headedness, please chip in …


TIA

mellie
June 21st, 2010, 04:24 PM
This makes me think of Harry Nilsson's "The Point". :D

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067595/

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3963854080/tt0067595

I know that's not helpful though...sorry! :-)

Nae
June 21st, 2010, 05:14 PM
I always thought it happened more at shoulder level? But I have wondered about the term itself a few times. I would think as the hair gets longer it should weigh itself down and lay flatter. But I will admit to the fact that I really have no idea. =)

Aliped
June 21st, 2010, 05:30 PM
I think you're right in thinking that longer hair weighs itself down. That is, it weighs the hair closer to the head down, but hair nearer the ends don't have the same weight to control them and pouffs out sideways, creating the triangle

xoxophelia
June 21st, 2010, 05:43 PM
It might be because your ends are dry. Maybe try an overnight EVOO and honey treatment? Or even just 3 hours or so would do.

When my ends get dry they become less floppy and more poofy so I know what you are talking about.

jaine
June 21st, 2010, 05:48 PM
Triangle head is why I will always, always have layers!

If you don't want layers, you could grow long enough that your terminal length taper starts to take over and the bottom half will be thinner.

Or if you don't like layers AND want instant gratification, you could have a stylist remove some bulk in the lower half without adding surface layers.

Aliped
June 21st, 2010, 05:54 PM
It might be because your ends are dry. Maybe try an overnight EVOO and honey treatment? Or even just 3 hours or so would do.

When my ends get dry they become less floppy and more poofy so I know what you are talking about.
That is what I suspected at first, but I do a molasses moisture treatment and a heavy overnight coconut oiling at least once a week, sometimes more frequently.

My hair is drier at the ends than the roots, but it is virgin hair (never been dyed) and has no splits, plus I baby it a lot. So I'm kind of stumped for a solution other than cutting off the length, which I don't want to do :(

FrannyG
June 21st, 2010, 06:04 PM
Triangle head is usually when wavy or curly-hair people get to about shoulder length or so.

What you describe is more like triangle hem. It really does sound as though you either have buildup and need to clarify, or that you need a deep moisture treatment, like an SMT. If you do clarify, I would still follow that up with an SMT. So I suggest SMT whatever the problem may be.

In all honesty, I do think that occasional tiny trims are very helpful as well. I know that trims are not for everyone though. However, some people here with below classic length do trim, even just an eight of an inch once in a while, and find it makes a difference.

I hope you get this sorted. :blossom:

Aliped
June 21st, 2010, 06:15 PM
Triangle head is usually when wavy or curly-hair people get to about shoulder length or so.

What you describe is more like triangle hem. It really does sound as though you either have buildup and need to clarify, or that you need a deep moisture treatment, like an SMT. If you do clarify, I would still follow that up with an SMT. So I suggest SMT whatever the problem may be.

In all honesty, I do think that occasional tiny trims are very helpful as well. I know that trims are not for everyone though. However, some people here with below classic length do trim, even just an eight of an inch once in a while, and find it makes a difference.

I hope you get this sorted. :blossom:

Ooh, :)
I have to admit, I have never ever clarified in my entire life :o
Would baking soda be good? ... *heads towards google*
Thanks Franny G, I'll give it a try and update this thread in a few days.

GRU
June 21st, 2010, 06:18 PM
Triangle head is usually when wavy or curly-hair people get to about shoulder length or so.

For people who are visual learners, here's a visual aid:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b23/ImaHockeyMom/boards/hair/brillohead.jpg

See also Alice from the Dilbert comic strip: http://www.roadie.org/fist_of_death.jpg

frizzinator
June 21st, 2010, 06:19 PM
Have you tried oiling the base of the triangle?

Aliped
June 21st, 2010, 06:52 PM
Hmm, so it appears that I don't actually have triangle head, and a more appropriate term would be triangle hem! :)

Yes I'v tried oiling the hemline and ends, but it just looks dirty when I do that

sapphire-o
June 21st, 2010, 07:18 PM
My DH has that problem. His hair is at waist length already. It's just very fine and light, there is not enough weight to pull it down. If there's any wind it gets bigger and bigger. Luckily he seems to like the big poofy hair so that's OK. I think for some hair types it just would not lie down nicely.

Arctic_Mama
June 21st, 2010, 09:05 PM
If a deep treatment and adding more moisture doesn't help, I'd suggest a slight trim, either straight across or a gentle U might help. But it sounds like your ends are frazzled wnd thus sticking out more than they should.

Aliped
June 21st, 2010, 11:39 PM
Thanks everybody!

I washed my hair with baking soda followed by an ACV rinse. Its air dried and I'm not sure if the shape is better, but this is the softest, smoothest, silkiest and glossiest my hair has ever been! WOW!! (I uploaded a couple of pics to my album titled Length).

I think a trim is still in order, to improve the shape of my hemline, but I really needed to clarify.

Thanks for all the advice :x

Dreams_in_Pink
June 22nd, 2010, 12:44 AM
When i had triangle hem on waist-length hair, i used to curl the ends with rollers. It always solved the problem and looked awesome :)

FrannyG
June 22nd, 2010, 05:47 AM
I'm really happy that the clarifying worked out. :) Now you just need to really make sure those ends are moisturized well. When you get a chance, do try a deep moisture treatment, even if you only do it on the ends. Leave it in as long as you can. And yes, I think a small trim will likely help. Small trims don't really take away too much length, and it grows back before you know it. Your hair is beautiful, by the way. :blossom:

Dragon
June 29th, 2010, 02:46 AM
The first time I grew my hair, I had the triangle hair as well. It was below sholders length. I let some one take off quite a few inches as it was damaged. Its now waist length and dont have the triangle hair anymore. And its healthy. Wheater its due to damage or just the way it grows, not sure.

DARKMARTIAN
June 29th, 2010, 03:00 AM
For people who are visual learners, here's a visual aid:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b23/ImaHockeyMom/boards/hair/brillohead.jpg

See also Alice from the Dilbert comic strip: http://www.roadie.org/fist_of_death.jpg

I think thats an Isosceles triangle......:)

GRU
June 29th, 2010, 05:01 AM
I think thats an Isosceles triangle......:)

Well, I did get an A+ in Geometry in high school a bazillion years ago -- now you know why! :D

DARKMARTIAN
June 29th, 2010, 06:11 AM
Well, I did get an A+ in Geometry in high school a bazillion years ago -- now you know why! :D

Geometry Rules the Universe.....:D

GRU
June 29th, 2010, 06:40 AM
Geometry Rules the Universe.....:D

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b23/ImaHockeyMom/boards/emoticons/spit.gif http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b23/ImaHockeyMom/boards/emoticons/lolabove-1.gif http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b23/ImaHockeyMom/boards/emoticons/lol.gif http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b23/ImaHockeyMom/boards/emoticons/lmao.gif

Love it, DM! Actually made me LOL IRL! :D

Of course, I'm going to have that going through my head for the rest of the day! http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b23/ImaHockeyMom/boards/emoticons/rant.gif



;)

spidermom
June 29th, 2010, 09:37 AM
At waist length I had straight-across, blunt-cut ends. My hair reminded me of a cape, and I didn't like it at all. So I switched to a U-shaped hem and like it much better. A V would work, too, I think.

HairColoredHair
June 29th, 2010, 10:31 AM
Maybe you have more curl/wave to your hair than you think?

Have you done a hairtyping/no-touch dry recently? :)

Aliped
June 29th, 2010, 11:40 AM
Thanks everybody! I am swamped with work at the moment. So, the only thing I can do with my hair is bun it and forget about it. When things settle down, in a few weeks, I plan on getting a trim with a U or shallow V hemline and do lots of moisture treatments.

Cheers