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pinchbeck
May 21st, 2010, 12:25 PM
I went to a salon to get my child's hair cut. We have been to this stylist before and I told him I am interested in taking a hairdressing course this September. He looked at me and said, "Your hair is frizzy, I wouldn't hire you".

This was shocking! I actually appreciated his boldness and honesty and was not insulted at all. I am a wavy and my hair tends to frizz after it has been washed. He said I should smooth my hair with products and than added I could wear my hair as I wish if I own my own salon.

My hair is one length and not that long, but they were saying it would look nice with long layers so it cascades down my back. True, but then I wouldn't be able to wear a secure braid as I do every day.

EvaSimone
May 21st, 2010, 12:27 PM
That was a bit harsh of him.

I guess if you want to take the good from this situation he might have just given you a tip (albeit rudely) that will help you get a job as a hair stylist.

Heavenly Locks
May 21st, 2010, 12:27 PM
Honest or not, that was rude of him! :nono:

spidermom
May 21st, 2010, 12:28 PM
Oh no; talk about verbally smacked! Good think you know him and have rapport already.

I use product to keep my frizz down; I don't like the grizzled look.

pinchbeck
May 21st, 2010, 12:32 PM
I use product to keep my frizz down; I don't like the grizzled look.The grizzled look? Now...that is funny!

Which product/s do you use to control frizz? What is wrong with frizz? It makes a person look raw and I told the stylist I like my hippie look. lol

curlylocks85
May 21st, 2010, 12:33 PM
I would have said "Well, you hired others with visible breakage and broken ends, so what's a little frizz to even things out?" LOL, that's just me.

BunnyBee
May 21st, 2010, 12:36 PM
Um frizzy hair is a no-no for hairdressers? So what's with all the ridiculous asymmetrical choppy and stripy hair that's usually sported by hairdressers these days? You can look silly but not frizzy? :P

pinchbeck
May 21st, 2010, 12:38 PM
I would have said "Well, you hired others with visible breakage and broken ends, so what's a little frizz to even things out?" LOL, that's just me. The girl he has working for him has waist length, layered, straightened hair. Her hair (and face) looks absolutely beautiful and sexy. I was petting it and complimenting it. She said if I like her hair so much why don't I do the same to mine. I told her I admire her style on her, but it doesn't mean I want it on me and added, "I like the way I look!" even though I am not model material.

They are a fun bunch. Oh...the salon owner even asked for my phone number in front of everyone. That was puzzling!

SHELIAANN1969
May 21st, 2010, 12:42 PM
The grizzled look? Now...that is funny!

Which product/s do you use to control frizz? What is wrong with frizz? It makes a person look raw and I told the stylist I like my hippie look. lol

I have lots of frizz and use a lot of product to TRY and tame the beast. I use Paul Mitchell *the conditioner* (or the Sally Brand if I don't find PM at a great bargain) I use the Paul Mitchell *Detangler* as leave in and I also use Biolage Matrix as a leave in(or Sally Brand).

I have tried the silk drops but haven't found an amount that quite works for me yet.

At the end of the day, my head looks like I have been in a wind tunnel all day, and that is just sitting at my desk with a headset on, it's crazy, the fuzz is just overwhelming.

curlylocks85
May 21st, 2010, 12:51 PM
The girl he has working for him has waist length, layered, straightened hair. Her hair (and face) looks absolutely beautiful and sexy. I was petting it and complimenting it. She said if I like her hair so much why don't I do the same to mine. I told her I admire her style on her, but it doesn't mean I want it on me and added, "I like the way I look!" even though I am not model material.

They are a fun bunch. Oh...the salon owner even asked for my phone number in front of everyone. That was puzzling!

If her hair is straightened, the damage may not have been outright visible. I know when I was straightening mine, it felt soft and looked shiny, but the repetitive heat styling I inflicted on it covered up the damaged. Now my hair has been free of that for 7 months now and the only part that is frizzy are the damaged ends that are goring out. If I owned a salon, I would base hiring someone on more than how they looked because you could bring new information for health and that would be a great asset. Of course, looks are a big part, but competence should also be required. I am sure her hair is beautiful. You do not see many stylists with hair that long, at least I don't.


Maybe he wants to know you on a more personal level. I hope not, that would be weird after that comment, IMO.

Let us know how it goes if you decide to take the classes. :)

pinchbeck
May 21st, 2010, 12:54 PM
At the end of the day, my head looks like I have been in a wind tunnel all day, and that is just sitting at my desk with a headset on, it's crazy, the fuzz is just overwhelming.I love that look. Do you have public images of your hair in its wild state? If so, let me know and I will check them out~

Calaelen
May 21st, 2010, 01:12 PM
Well, here's a stylist's point of view.

I can understand the reasoning behind it, being that the staff in a salon are supposed to be billboards, for the quality of service available in a salon. That is why there is a dress code, why we have to wear appropriate cosmetics, and why there are actually TWO chapters devoted to this subject in the textbook I studied in college.

That said, it was very inappropriate for him to say that to you.

Just one of the many reasons I choose to take what I will from the profession, and leave the rest. I work from home, and have my own clientele. I find this to be the best way to go for me, as all the workplace politics, the "push product and cutting" obligation, and the fact that it is just a business to most is something I don't care to be a part of.

spidermom
May 21st, 2010, 01:20 PM
Actually, there's nothing wrong with frizz. In fact, my husband says that when the light hits it just right, it looks like a halo and reminds him of what an angel I am. So there you have it: he thinks "angel" while I'm thinking "bag lady" or "witch".
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/spidermom/firstday.jpg
There you have it; enough frizz for everybody here!

curlylocks85
May 21st, 2010, 01:23 PM
Actually, there's nothing wrong with frizz. In fact, my husband says that when the light hits it just right, it looks like a halo and reminds him of what an angel I am. So there you have it: he thinks "angel" while I'm thinking "bag lady" or "witch".
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/spidermom/firstday.jpg
There you have it; enough frizz for everybody here!

I like that. :)

UltraBella
May 21st, 2010, 01:30 PM
I own two salons and if I went by his standards I would have missed out on several amazing hairdressers.

princessp
May 21st, 2010, 02:11 PM
Wow that does seem a bit harsh. As far as managing frizz, have you tried the CO method? It has helped my hair immensely.

Spidermom, your husbands sounds like a real keeper!

UltraBella
May 21st, 2010, 02:36 PM
This has bugged me since I read it ! I was thinking about my salons and the stylists I have and how diverse of a group they are. I think it's good to have stylist that are very natural and earthy, someone who has similar wants for their hair will be comfortable with them. And I have high maintenance stylists for the high maintenance clients. I have a pierced, tattooed, purple haired stylist for the very adventurous or alternative clients. I think it makes for a more interesting environment !

pinchbeck
May 21st, 2010, 02:51 PM
Actually, there's nothing wrong with frizz. In fact, my husband says that when the light hits it just right, it looks like a halo and reminds him of what an angel I am. So there you have it: he thinks "angel" while I'm thinking "bag lady" or "witch".
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/spidermom/firstday.jpg
There you have it; enough frizz for everybody here!My hair is the same colour as yours (at the bottom) and has the same wave pattern and frizz. How cool! It is just way short at the moment.

It would be great to see more frizzy hair pics. I would love to see a curly on here with a puffy afro looking style. It is so rare to see, but I adore it.

jera
May 21st, 2010, 02:52 PM
Actually, there's nothing wrong with frizz. In fact, my husband says that when the light hits it just right, it looks like a halo and reminds him of what an angel I am. So there you have it: he thinks "angel" while I'm thinking "bag lady" or "witch".
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/spidermom/firstday.jpg
There you have it; enough frizz for everybody here!

Spidermom, your hair looks awesome in this new pic, frizz and all. :D

pinchbeck
May 21st, 2010, 02:53 PM
This has bugged me since I read it ! I was thinking about my salons and the stylists I have and how diverse of a group they are. I think it's good to have stylist that are very natural and earthy, someone who has similar wants for their hair will be comfortable with them. And I have high maintenance stylists for the high maintenance clients. I have a pierced, tattooed, purple haired stylist for the very adventurous or alternative clients. I think it makes for a more interesting environment !That is great and I agree with you. All colours and all colours of hair look great and that includes purple. I love diversity in people's choice for style.

DARKMARTIAN
May 21st, 2010, 03:00 PM
He really said that? Sounds like a person who been around this kind of stuff quite alot...possibly maybe too much at times...

pinchbeck
May 21st, 2010, 03:12 PM
I own two salons and if I went by his standards I would have missed out on several amazing hairdressers.That is comforting to know. I am aware I could change my style to look in-style, but I really don't want to even if it meant I would look more attractive and more polished.

Again, I didn't mind what he said but last year when I was there he had a different stylist there and she said my braid looked gross. You can imagine what I wanted to do to her. I added, "Perhaps--but my hair looks lovely down". lol

McFearless
May 21st, 2010, 04:05 PM
I think what he said was completely inappropriate. Good for you for not being offended! It might be okay if you were in for a job interview and they, well never called you back... but to assume your hair is always "frizzy" is wrong.

Seanymph
May 21st, 2010, 04:55 PM
That is comforting to know. I am aware I could change my style to look in-style, but I really don't want to even if it meant I would look more attractive and more polished.

Again, I didn't mind what he said but last year when I was there he had a different stylist there and she said my braid looked gross. You can imagine what I wanted to do to her. I added, "Perhaps--but my hair looks lovely down". lol
Jeez!!! It seems like your getting insulted by a lot of stylist in that one salon. I wouldn't stand for it. I'll take my business else where. I hate it when some hair stylist feel they have a right to tell you what you should be doing to your hair, or how your hair should look. Half of the time it's not even there professional opinion, but them just being judgmental.

Flaxen
May 21st, 2010, 05:04 PM
It would be great to see more frizzy hair pics. I would love to see a curly on here with a puffy afro looking style. It is so rare to see, but I adore it.

Have you seen the Boom! (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=7003) thread? :smile:

Fiferstone
May 21st, 2010, 06:42 PM
Hi Pinchbeck, I took a quick peek at the two pics of hair you posted in your album...
...and if he thinks that's frizzy, I'm an orangutan.

Your hair is gorgeous. He must only want stylists with pin-straight hair that shines like glass...
...too bad everyone in the world has all sorts of different hair.

I would have been offended by the comment myself.

pinchbeck
May 21st, 2010, 07:28 PM
Have you seen the Boom! (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=7003) thread? :smile:I just looked at it. Thank you for the link. Some of those heads of hair are so big! I love them.:D

TheLuckyLurker
May 21st, 2010, 07:33 PM
Actually, there's nothing wrong with frizz. In fact, my husband says that when the light hits it just right, it looks like a halo and reminds him of what an angel I am. So there you have it: he thinks "angel" while I'm thinking "bag lady" or "witch".
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/spidermom/firstday.jpg
There you have it; enough frizz for everybody here!

Maybe I'm just weird, but I don't see it. If my hair had done what yours is doing, I never would've attacked it with high heat and chemicals.

GRU
May 21st, 2010, 08:14 PM
That is DEFINITELY not "frizzy"!!!

THIS is frizzy!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b23/ImaHockeyMom/boards/hair/b4-brushedout-1.jpg

pinchbeck
May 21st, 2010, 08:16 PM
That is DEFINITELY not "frizzy"!!! THIS is frizzy!Yes...it is! What an awesome frizzy head of hair.

julliams
May 22nd, 2010, 12:09 AM
she said my braid looked gross.

Time for another salon??? When you are paying and being insulted, the line has been officially stomped on!

Loreley
May 22nd, 2010, 01:26 AM
That was really rude of him. :rant:

ericthegreat
May 22nd, 2010, 01:52 AM
I went to a salon to get my child's hair cut. We have been to this stylist before and I told him I am interested in taking a hairdressing course this September. He looked at me and said, "Your hair is frizzy, I wouldn't hire you".

This was shocking! I actually appreciated his boldness and honesty and was not insulted at all. I am a wavy and my hair tends to frizz after it has been washed. He said I should smooth my hair with products and than added I could wear my hair as I wish if I own my own salon.

My hair is one length and not that long, but they were saying it would look nice with long layers so it cascades down my back. True, but then I wouldn't be able to wear a secure braid as I do every day.

I'm sorry, but I simply do not believe you at all when you say you weren't insulted. The very way you constructed your thread title "Salon Owner says "I wouldn't hire you, your hair is too frizzy." and then you add in "Wow." at the end shows that obviously you were quite hurt by his rude and disgusting comments. And that is exactly who this man is, a pompous know-it-all jerk who thinks he has the right to flat out insult a mother in front of her own child. Honestly if I were you, I literally would have walked right off that chair and taken my child by the hand and stormed right out of there and NEVER even think of going back.

I don't care how good his hairstyling skills are, common sense and common courtesy are way more important social skills in talking to a client. He definitely knows better than to talk to a client the way he talked to you, but he still chose to make that very insulting remark. If he had said that to me, not only would I have walked out with my own child but I would tell all my friends and family members to avoid that salon as well.

UltraBella
May 22nd, 2010, 02:06 AM
I wouldn't have been hurt by his comment, so maybe she was not either. Surprised ? Yes. Caught off guard ? Perhaps. More likely than anything I would have chuckled out loud. I can be shocked at what comes out of someone's mouth without it making a dent in my feelings...... Now, it's a whole different story if I witness it happening to someone else. A comment to me and you might get an eye roll or a giggle - a comment to my daughter, friend, or even a perfect stranger might get you a very harsh round of words.......

lastnite
May 22nd, 2010, 02:29 AM
I looked at your profile pics... your hair is beautiful, if that's frizz I wish my hair was frizzy too.

Nynaeve
May 22nd, 2010, 02:48 AM
Oh no; talk about verbally smacked! Good think you know him and have rapport already.

I use product to keep my frizz down; I don't like the grizzled look.


I now have mental images of long-haired grizzly bears. :D


pinchbeck I have to agree with others in the fact that it was rude, the honestly is good, but need it be as harsh as that? It seems there could have been a much nicer and more constructive way. :(

julliams
May 22nd, 2010, 03:14 AM
I took a look at your pics and your hair is gorgeous. The texture is very like mine when I'm wavy (as opposed to my siggy where I'm quite curly from scrunching). I would have felt completely alienated from that salon if that comment were directed at me. I get tired of many hairdressers having one idea of what hair is supposed to look like - sleek and smooth. It makes things difficult for anyone who sports anything different and suggests that the sleek and smooth look is what everyone is trying to attain and should be trying to attain (something I am opposed to).

Does anyone with textured hair ever come out of a salon with their hair looking anything like it's natural state? When I go in and tell them I'm off silicone (back on now though) and don't heat style my hair - how do I come out? With totally siliconed, heat styled hair. Admittedly I let them do it but if I said I wanted to airdry my hair, I'm almost certain that the cost would be the same so I end up giving in because "I'm paying for it".

Nera
May 22nd, 2010, 03:19 AM
That was rude of him, and besides- frizzyness is partially due to genetics. I would feel kind of hurt because of that.

Sarahmoon
May 22nd, 2010, 04:11 AM
Wow, that's extremely rude. Nothing honesty, just rude. I would personally prefer to have employees with unevenly chopped, fried and bleached to death hair who know how to be friendly to customers, than such an arrogant and rude person.

Fethenwen
May 22nd, 2010, 04:43 AM
This has bugged me since I read it ! I was thinking about my salons and the stylists I have and how diverse of a group they are. I think it's good to have stylist that are very natural and earthy, someone who has similar wants for their hair will be comfortable with them. And I have high maintenance stylists for the high maintenance clients. I have a pierced, tattooed, purple haired stylist for the very adventurous or alternative clients. I think it makes for a more interesting environment !
Wow, I would sooo visit your saloon if I had the chance :flower:
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This very topic is something that has been making me a bit worried lately, I am planning to study to become a hairdresser coming autumn, as a work trainee/study, so I will soon start to ask around for a place to do my training. I have been studying furniture/textile design, so designing hair is something that feels more right to me. I'm planning to take courses on eco-friendly/natural hairdressing later on. I'm so happy to have found out that there are such courses, and that they are growing and becoming more popular each year!

But I am sporting the boho look, and now I'm on WO and loving it so much, I would hate to have to wash my hair with shampoo just to look more polished when I will search for a place to do my training. But I guess I will have to anyway, whether I like it or not, if I haven't gone through my greasy period.

I have met many lovely hairdressers who love my hair, so I don't feel too scared that I would have to change my style too much to fit in. Well see :)
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I also think it was very rude of that hairdresser to call your hair frizzy and what not. Sounds quite unprofessional to me.

Sunsailing
May 22nd, 2010, 05:42 AM
I looked at your profile pics... your hair is beautiful, if that's frizz I wish my hair was frizzy too.


I agree. Your hair is thick and gorgeous!!\

Forever_Sophie
May 22nd, 2010, 06:13 AM
That was completely out of line, esp. considering you didn't ask him to hire you.

Pixna
May 22nd, 2010, 06:32 AM
I feel his comment was rude on so many levels. First, you didn't ask for his opinion of your hair. Second, you might love your hair just the way it is (and I hope you do!). He is assuming that you aspire to a certain look, and that alone is insulting. Finally, there are all different types of hair, attributable to our ethnicity and genetics. One type is not better or more beautiful than another!!

I have naturally frizzy hair -- always have and probably always will have. I embrace my frizz. I love it, in fact. When it's humid out and my hair frizzes more, I'm a happy gal. I have absolutely no desire to have sleek, smooth hair. While I can certainly admire that type of hair on someone else, it's not what have and not what I want for myself. Take a look at my updos in my album and you'll see a lovely halo of frizz in every single one of them. I wouldn't trade that frizz for all the money in the world (well, okay, maybe for all the money in the world...but not for anything else!). Some people have straight hair, some people have wavy hair, some people have curly hair, some people have kinky hair, and some people have frizzy hair. I'm a frizzball, baby, and I'm proud of it!! :gabigrin:

Moonfall
May 22nd, 2010, 07:10 AM
That's so rude!

My hair is one length and not that long, but they were saying it would look nice with long layers so it cascades down my back.
I think it's really annoying when people suggest another hairstyle. Like you can't decide yourself. If you're happy with one length hair (I am too!), you should keep it that way! And there's nothing wrong with fizzy hair :)

pinchbeck
May 22nd, 2010, 09:34 AM
This very topic is something that has been making me , I am planning to study to become I'm planning to take courses on eco-friendly/natural hairdressing later on. I'm so happy to have found out that there are such courses, and that they are growing and becoming more popular each year!
I love the idea of eco friendly hairdressing and didn't know it existed. I wonder if these courses are available in Ontario? I will have to check it out.

Lamb
May 22nd, 2010, 09:36 AM
And that is exactly who this man is, a pompous know-it-all jerk who thinks he has the right to flat out insult a mother in front of her own child.
Eric has a great point here. Maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but I find it really upsetting that that guy ran his mouth in front of your son. When I was small, I was very sensitive about the way my parents were treated, verbally, by others - it upset and confused me when relatives or acquaintances said mean or belittling things to them.
Why can't adults think before they say something in front of children? :mad: Especially a grown man, to a mother, in front of her son. That's just plain wrong.

Darkhorse1
May 22nd, 2010, 09:40 AM
No offence, but that's rude. I just saw photos of your hair and it's GORGEOUS! Healthy and neat----for him to say that, I'd be like 'well, thank you--I'll be taking my business somewhere else'. Your hair in no way looked frizzy to me.

In any sense, I don't think it matters what your hair type is like or if you have a layered style--it's how you present yourself with cliental. Sheesh. You're a good person!!

Darkhorse1
May 22nd, 2010, 09:41 AM
Hey! Pinchbeck--you're in Ontario?? *waves* me too! Loving this rain?

pinchbeck
May 22nd, 2010, 09:42 AM
I'm sorry, but I simply do not believe you at all when you say you weren't insulted.I was more surprised that he said that out of the blue. My hair had just been washed and it tends to have a halo effect as it is drying. The next day it frizzes less. I don't think a lot of people are used to hair in its raw form anymore. It's rare to see and sometimes considered unkempt or hippie. My older son's friends call me a hippie and my son is always telling me to cut my hair shorter (it is already short enough -- isn't that ironic?). It hurts more when my own family can't support my desire for longish hair.

I was annoyed when the salon owner said that because it means to be a hairstylist I have to sacrifice my individuality and potentially damage my already fragile hair. First, we'll see if I get through the course!

pinchbeck
May 22nd, 2010, 09:46 AM
Hey! Pinchbeck--you're in Ontario?? *waves* me too! Loving this rain?I live in southern ON. Yes...Darkhorse, I am loving the rain. It smells so nice and will hopefully bring our yellowish sod back to life. The rain cleans everything and makes all the leaves sparkle.:D

Purdy Bear
May 22nd, 2010, 09:50 AM
The salon obviously doesnt need much custom, and I dont think it will last very long if the stylist and staff keep insulting the customer.

I would find yourself another hairdresser.

We have 7 hairdressers in the small village near me. Most of them dont have good hair, its bleached, tinted, dyed and cut into styles that quite frankly doesnt suit them. Iv tried out three of them, and only one could cope with cutting hair of an Alopecian.

When my hair is long enough to cut, Im going to book with one hairdresser, he spends the whole time with you, and only you (your the only one in his salon), and comes highly recommended from a close friend. His also cheap. If his not in business, then I intend to do an extensive questionnaire and if they cant give me the right answer, they wont get my custom.

I used to volunteer with someone who run a shop who insulted her customers on a regular basis and wondered why her takings were done. Oh Duh!

Speckla
May 22nd, 2010, 10:41 AM
You should have a tshirt made that says, "Frizz makes the rockin' world go 'round" and have pix of famous frizzy artists on it. :)

GRU
May 22nd, 2010, 10:50 AM
Yes...it is! What an awesome frizzy head of hair.

And people wonder why curlies don't brush their hair! LOL (That pic was back in October, and I haven't brushed my hair since then.)

3azza
May 22nd, 2010, 11:21 AM
Your hair looks beautiful, and for me as a curly, that is nothing close to frizz.

GlennaGirl
May 22nd, 2010, 11:43 AM
Actually, there's nothing wrong with frizz. In fact, my husband says that when the light hits it just right, it looks like a halo and reminds him of what an angel I am. So there you have it: he thinks "angel" while I'm thinking "bag lady" or "witch".
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c79/spidermom/firstday.jpg
There you have it; enough frizz for everybody here!

My goodness gracious but is your hair beautiful. I always seem to feel the need to say that to SM. LOL. She's got my dream hair...ah well! 'Twas not meant to be!

Okay, sorry for the hijack, carry on, everyone...

GlennaGirl
May 22nd, 2010, 11:47 AM
Okay...I checked the OP's album pics and all I have to say is...holy Renaissance hair, Batman! I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy... (bowing repeatedly)

But I do always love wurly/wavy/curly hair (or any combination thereof) so I may have a bias toward it.

I do "get" what the stylist was saying, even if he said it in a truly, and Imma talkin' TRULY mean way. He was saying: The vast majority of clients will come in looking for "the latest" and they will subconsciously decide whether or not a stylist can do that "latest" (in this case, flat-ironed and layered) based on what the stylist's own hair looks like.

It's a snap decision and the OP's stylist was saying he did not see the OP as that type of advertisement.

As rough as the stylist was, he WASN'T saying the OP's hair isn't beautiful. Honestly, who could look at lengths and lengths of wavy wheat-blonde hair and say it's not pretty? But this stylist runs a shop and he needs to make money and there you have it.

OP, I'm glad you already like these people, as I'm certain that otherwise, you'd have to kick some *ss up and down that shop...LOL.

Hugs to you.

Fethenwen
May 22nd, 2010, 12:36 PM
I love the idea of eco friendly hairdressing and didn't know it existed. I wonder if these courses are available in Ontario? I will have to check it out.
I hope you find some. I only now there exists such in my country and in Sweden. Specializations in that include for example herbal coloring and usage of hairstyling products that are completely organic and eco-friendly :)

marzipanthecat
May 22nd, 2010, 01:00 PM
I think that was rather harsh of him, BUT it is a very honest and open opinion, and although I admit it would have hurt my feelings, I would have appreciated him saying it. It's helpful to know a potential employer's opinion.

Also, layers are tiresome to maintain, they don't look nice at all growing out.

curlylocks85
May 22nd, 2010, 02:08 PM
You should have a tshirt made that says, "Frizz makes the rockin' world go 'round" and have pix of famous frizzy artists on it. :)

Right on! :rockerdud

TrudieCat
May 23rd, 2010, 10:50 AM
Your hair is healthy, not frizzy, and lovely.

One thing I really dislike looking at is a head of hair that's been obviously beaten into submission by obvious heat styling (too straight with fried ends; too perfectly curled with iron), or by way of excessive use of product (clear plastic look - shiny, but apparently coated, rather than shining with health and vitality). That sort of over-styling looks too much like the hair on a doll, not a real person. I would much rather see some frizz on healthy head of hair, just as I would much rather see a few "blemishes" on skin than make-up that looks like it was applied with a spatula that provides a perfectly even skin color.

I look at some of the hairstyles I see on TV, in magazines, etc, and I think they look almost clownishly perfect sometimes. The shine can look like a waxy car finish, not a natural sheen. It's to some people's taste, I realize, but not mine. Last time I got my hair cut, the stylist's hair was obviously flat-ironed and breaking at the ends, and she talked about how the only way for her to make it not frizzy was to flat-iron the frizz down. Except... there were little bits of frizz all around the canopy. But it was supposed to "read" as not frizzy, I guess, because it was straight? I found it odd.

pinchbeck
June 29th, 2010, 11:44 AM
I caved and bought a silicone laden product to combat my frizzies and help with tangle issues. Why is it I can not find a silicone product that doesn't contain fragrance? The product I bought is called Organix Pomegranate Green Tea Anti Frizz Serum.

Does an unscented version exist?

Unofficial_Rose
June 29th, 2010, 01:43 PM
Wow, that's extremely rude. Nothing honesty, just rude. I would personally prefer to have employees with unevenly chopped, fried and bleached to death hair who know how to be friendly to customers, than such an arrogant and rude person.

That kind of hair is de rigeur in the hairdressers in my town. But it's always straightened to within an inch of its life, too,
so that's probably fine according to the OP's stylist's view of the world. ;)

squiggyflop
June 29th, 2010, 01:48 PM
well perhaps you will just have to get your own salon or wear your hair in an updo to the interviews..

i had thought of becoming a hair dresser before.. but i didnt realize how much it costs to take the courses.. i got a quote for over 10,000$ all at once upfront to go to beauty school

spidermom
June 29th, 2010, 01:54 PM
Ack Squiggy. That's uber-expensive! It doesn't cost that much through a community college or vocational college, not around here, anyway. (maybe half that, books and materials included)

Kome
June 29th, 2010, 01:57 PM
It's kind of expected considering where you are. Why would you take a hairdressing course if you plan to do nothing to your own hair? I get where he was going with that comment. It's the business. If you plan on opening up a long hair, no cones salon that caters to long hair and styles... that would be different.

Kome
June 29th, 2010, 01:59 PM
I caved and bought a silicone laden product to combat my frizzies and help with tangle issues. Why is it I can not find a silicone product that doesn't contain fragrance? The product I bought is called Organix Pomegranate Green Tea Anti Frizz Serum.

Does an unscented version exist?

The frizz serums suck, I'll be honest. I like hair gloss instead. I use Joico Kpack Hairgloss or Colorgen Hairgloss. There are many many many hairglosses though. I have the same frizz problem and frizz serums never worked for me. Glosses are soooooo much better.

Madame J
June 29th, 2010, 02:08 PM
Wow. I would have replied "Your mouth is rude; I wouldn't patronize you" and found somewhere else to get my kid's hair cut. Because, seriously, that was uncalled-for. Just because you don't have layered/blow-dried/colored/permed/straightened hair doesn't mean you don't care for it. And wavy != frizzy. I would love to go to a stylist who had long, natural hair because I would feel more confident that that person would not pressure me to cut, layer, or treat it in ways that I don't want to.

tinti
June 29th, 2010, 02:20 PM
Eeep, That's shocking and rude. I would've been totally speachless if he'd said that to me :p

Vanilla Mint
June 30th, 2010, 05:04 AM
That was rude for him to say, but I still look at it from the POV of someone who knows the business. He could have worded it less harshly, as I'm sure your hair is quite lovely as it is, but it's absolutely true that most salons prefer their stylists to have very conventionally "kept" hair. It's good you weren't offended, but I'm sure it would have hurt my feelings, and everyone is right when they say it was NOT okay for him to put you down like that in front of your child! Honest advice or not, he could have had more sense and class than that.

mellie
June 30th, 2010, 05:47 AM
I agree with most people here; it was rude, and WRONG. Your hair is beautiful, healthy and strong! I think he was just trying to sell you product.

I would have left. Especially with the 2nd "gross" comment. That is completely WRONG too, as well as horribly rude and inappropriate.

Gvnagitlvgei
September 3rd, 2010, 06:34 PM
I wonder what he would have said if my avatar look had walked in an inquired? Oh, you have natural frizz from genetics....I wouldn't have hired you. It doesn't matter the person it's on, it's still genetic and he was highly inappropriate. Anybody can slick and bun with long hair to get a so-called professional look. But texture of hair is off-limits for suggestions. That's like saying to a Zulu, "I don't like your kinks, straighten it." Awful.