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lora410
April 11th, 2010, 06:28 PM
I know that it would be easier to do rag curls etc but does anyone do pin curls and if so how do you do it? Twisting even a section of my hair seems to take forever..lol

piratejenny23
April 11th, 2010, 09:34 PM
IMO, rag curls are easier for longer hair. you could do barrel curls maybe, but unless your hair holds a curl very easily, they can be too loose.

from what i understand, pin curls are when you actually pin the rolled-up hair flat to your head, whereas barrel curls sort of stand up.

i tried pin curls once...only managed about 3 before my arms hurt and i got totally frustrated. with lots of hair, it's hard to find enough room on your head to lay the curls flat, or to find pins big enough, or to not rip out strands of hair when messing with dozens of bobby pins :(

http://www.hairfinder.com/hairstyling/fingerwaves.htm <--plus pin & barrel curls

gee i guess i didn't really answer your question, but my vote is for rag curls! have fun!

manderly
April 11th, 2010, 09:52 PM
I'm trying to find an old victory roll video I found. I use the same technique to make stand up pin curls or barrel curls.

Argh! I can't find it. I'll try to explain as best I can. You can make these really quickly.


Start at the end and create a roll any size you want. Holding the tip of the hair to the strand of hair you are working on (so you are holding the small roll from falling apart) stick your other finger into it on the opposite side of the circle. Now just roll your fingers over eachother keeping the center of the roll snug like you're wrapping yarn. Pin to the scalp when your done. Each strand takes just a few seconds to do this way.

I hope that made sense. If not, I'll try to get a quick video of what I'm talking about up.

Alcenaia
April 11th, 2010, 09:58 PM
I have pincurled my hair twice. The first time I overtwisted and ended up with a head full of what resembled dreads--definitely not what I was going for. The second time worked out very nicely. I was happy with the results, especially since pincurling is much less damaging than using a curling iron.

You're right about it taking forever. I don't remember exactly how long it took me, but it was more than 45 minutes. My arms were tired. Also, I used a LOT of bobby pins.

My basic procedure was kind of like this:
1. Using a rat tail comb, separate out a section of hair.
2. Twirl/curl loosely around finger until all of that section is wound up.
3. Slide circle of hair off finger. Pin to head, or on top of other curls as necessary.

I worked from the front of my head to the back, sort of in rows. HTH! :flowers:

manderly
April 11th, 2010, 10:21 PM
Ok, I made a quick video of what I'm talking about.

So create the first curl by bringing your ends up to the strand, hold it between your fingers for the first few rotations. Once you have rotated a couple of times, you will see that the ends are now inside the curl and don't need to be held any longer, just continue the rotation until you reach your scalp and you can pin it standing up or flat.

It goes very quickly :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRzh7wX44TU

Hope that helps. I tied a slipknot in the yarn because it doesn't act the same as hair does and I just wanted to demonstrate the finger motion I was trying to describe :)

ETA: There is NO twisting involved. I'm actually confused as to why people are mentioning twisting, as I didn't know pin curls were ever twisted.

Ksenia
April 11th, 2010, 11:34 PM
You're a M ii/iii, but if anyone else is reading this post for advice, if you have fine hair, be VERY careful when pin curling, I once suffered a terrible tangling incident as a result of over-twisting. I lost a lot of hair from it, and the thought of it still makes me want to cry.

Having done it with moderate success a couple of times, I can say this much: don't make too many (I use about 8 total around my head, though thicker hair can handle about 10-12). Longer hair is easier to tangle (especially when you're naturally straight), so it can't handle as much waviness as short hair. Maybe consider deep waves instead of all-out pincurls? http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=82

countryhopper
April 12th, 2010, 12:22 AM
Well, I'm not waist length and I've technically never done a head full of pin curls, so maybe my opinion doesn't count :D

I would wrap the strand around a plastic marker as if it were a curling iron, and gently slide it off when it reached the scalp and secure with a pin. It seems like it would be the fastest, easiest, most consistent way of doing it!

What do you think??

Anyhow, I always make sock curls. It takes me under 2 minutes to secure all my hair in 4 socks at night, and in the morning I have big, bouncy, loose ringlets!

XcaliburGirl
April 12th, 2010, 09:01 AM
I had pin curls for my wedding. It did take FOR...EV...ER. I had my hair freshly cut to waist for the express purpose of reducing the time for styling (plus to get rid of straggly ends). I didn't actually do the pinning, though so I can't help with technique.

The main problem I ran into was that even though I slept on them, they weren't full dry by morning and a lot of the curl came out. It had to be touched up with a curling iron.

lora410
April 12th, 2010, 10:17 AM
I will have to try this. I did rag curls and my ends knotted up big time.

Dreams_in_Pink
April 12th, 2010, 12:48 PM
i think buns and braids are better option to give long hair some wave & curl. There's a sock bun variation here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I13J7ArHTkM I think this one can produce some big curls if done with damp hair.

ETA: i just read that girl's response to a comment, she says this style does produce some curls :D I'd SO try it if i had longer hair...

Gabriel
April 12th, 2010, 05:29 PM
I've pin curled or barrel curled my past tail bone length hair with no problems. I don't do this with it soaking wet though and wait till it's mostly dry.

The next thing I do is make sure I'm not twisting the hair at all. You need to roll it, definitely not twist the hair. Carefully rolling each section as everyone's suggested above is really key.

Just like as if rolling the hair on a roller.

Make sure as you roll everything stays smooth. Work a section at a time patiently. It's only taken me maybe 30 minutes to roll my entire head. Maybe 45 minutes at the max.

I use bobby pins crossed into an "X" at the base of the curls to hold them.