pantene IS bad for your hair

[jojo]

I read this story in the papers yesterday and it just goes to show sulphate free poos are the way to go.

I feel so sorry for the young girl and although I have used pantene products in the past, this has scared me off using any sulphate containing product.

I do hope this is ok to post this, please mods accept my appology if its not and delete it.

http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/5289

[Dreams_in_Pink]

oh my god :(

it could be sulfates; it could also be some unknown substance mixed in that bottle she used. I remember a guy died because the soda he drank had a poisonous substance in it.

I think it's not sulfates though. has she been washing her hair with sulfate free poos so far?

[jojo]

It doesnt say but pantene does get a lot of bad press which in the past ive always dismissed, however it certainly makes me think twice about using sulphates.

It could be just a sensitivity to the ingredients or maybe her hair was damaged prior and this was just the straw that broke the camels back so to speak.

[Erin-86]

I saw the picture's, but it doesn't look like some random break-off...Maybe she did something herself but blamed it on the shampoo? I'm finding it hard to believe, especially after I saw the pictures.

[litlepick]

that looks like a run in with a disgruntled room mate that spiked her shampoo with nair... or she decided to try to shave off her bangs

[countryhopper]

Oh, poor girl!

Her scalp doesn't look burned though. That is SO WEIRD! I wonder how long her hair was to begin with?

I've heard other things about Pantene, but I've never seen actual photos...

But it seems to me that if the culprit REALY IS SLS, wouldn't her hair have done that with ANY SLS shampoo? and what shampoo was she using before this?

[Erin-86]

This photo is from a belgium news-website

http://http://img.vandaag.be/tmp/450/350/r/articles/201002151242-1_meisje-gebruikt-shampoo-en-verliest-haar.jpg

http://www.vandaag.be/bizar/27461_meisje-gebruikt-shampoo-en-verliest-haar.html

[Erin-86]

Oh I'm sorry, just noticed that you already had a link with the pictures :) can't edit my posts though...

[Wicked Princess]

My scalp reacts drastically to sulfates, but nothing like that! It really makes me wonder if that particular bottle was tampered with in some way, or if her hair loss is a result of the shampoo at all.

Sulfates may be harsh...but we have many members here who use and like them, some of whom are idolized by many! :D

[FrannyG]

It's a terrible story, but it wouldn't frighten me off of Pantene. Something strange and unusual clearly occurred in this case. There is no reason to believe that Pantene products are worse than any other brands that have SLS and cones. And I'm not even saying that those are bad, if used correctly.

[Benjamin_T]

O my goodness, to think that just last year, I was diligently trying out all of the different Pantene shampoo types (Hair-Fall control, Smooth & Silky, Extra-Moisturizing, Total-Care, etc...) out of excitement & curiosity. (I'm thankful that nothing bad has happened to my hair out of that.)

For this case, perhaps it could be a faulty mixture.. (Manufacturing fault etc..) Really pity that girl.

Anyway, regardless of whether conventional drugstore SLS shampoos are safe or not, my advice would be to forget about them and instead stick to natural/herbal hair care products; which are much safer & mild.

[tralalalara]

From the look of other posts on that website, can you be sure that it's real?

[Loviatar]

Calling shenanigans on that story, I'm afraid.

First, SLS is not a 'chemical wax' as claimed on that site by the girl in question. It is a detergent or surfactant.

Second, I know of no regular SLS shampoo that would make her hair break off midway like that and leave her scalp unburnt.

Either faulty mixture or she's blaming shampoo for another error.

Pantene is no more evil than anything else. I dont like it because it makes my hair flat, but it's not the devil of all shampoos.

[pelicano]

I'm completely suspicious of that story too. I agree with the comment further down the story that says words to the effect of millions of people are using the product every day, without issue. Even if it were to be something specifically in the Pantene, virtually all shampoos have sulfates in.

I love the way Myleene Klass almost gets blamed! :rolleyes::D

[Clarisse]

that looks like a run in with a disgruntled room mate that spiked her shampoo with nair... or she decided to try to shave off her bangs

I second that!

[curlylocks85]

That is horrible what happened to her, however I feel safe because I do use Pantene, but only the conditioner, and from that article, it was the shampoo, that was the culprit. I have been using Pantene for years and have never had a problem. Unless I do, I am still going to use it.

I am not sure if it is right to say that all Pantene products are “bad” since it was only one shampoo and only shampoo that was spoken about with this issue. I am not saying other people have not had issues with other products, but to infer that all the products are bad rather jumps the gun.

The article is right there are thousands if not more people who use these products and have not had any issues so I think all those testimonials should be taken into account before judgment is made about All Pantene products.

Another thing, the article claimed SLS is a "wax chemical", but SLS is an anionic surfactant so this leads me to believe that maybe this article is not as true as people want us (the general population) to believe.

[cindy58]

In the past (Ok, it's been a long while) I have used Pantene shampoo and conditioner, and the shampoo/conditioner in one. Nothing like that happened at all. In fact, I would still recommend the 2-in-1 to live with an overdone perm until it calms down. A lady I work with uses it exclusively on her waist length hair. Her hair is still there.

The girl in the "after" photo looks as if her hair has been totally fried.

[catysue]

That website seems more than a little sketchy, and to be honest I don't believe the story at all.

It really is harmful to rely on things like this to make sensationalist comments like "Pantene IS bad for your hair." Pantene is no different from any other SLS shampoo or coney conditioner, and that works for some people. I really think there's something going on in this story that we're not hearing about... I know SLS is bad for your hair but I have a REALLY hard time believing it would cause your hair to fall out in 'handfulls' just from ONE use.

[Sissy]

Calling shenanigans on that story, I'm afraid.

First, SLS is not a 'chemical wax' as claimed on that site by the girl in question. It is a detergent or surfactant.

Second, I know of no regular SLS shampoo that would make her hair break off midway like that and leave her scalp unburnt.

Either faulty mixture or she's blaming shampoo for another error.

Pantene is no more evil than anything else. I dont like it because it makes my hair flat, but it's not the devil of all shampoos.

Ditto. There are many of us whom use Pantene or have done so in the past and there are really no ingredients in Pantene different from any other sulfate shampoo. Ha, before LHC I was using Pantene products nearly everyday and was using SLS shampoo daily! It is true that SLS is drying when used to much but I've not really heard of it making hair fall off in clumps.

At first I thought her before picture was her after picture. It looks to me like someone tampered with the bottle. I found this line to be kinda disturbing though...


"Chairman of the Institute of Trichologists-Marilyn Sherlock said sudden hair loss was not uncommon especially in younger women 'due to dieting and stressful busy lifestyles' and can appear to be because of a particular product.
She added: 'But quite often it's just a coincidence and could have happened with any shampoo.'"


Could have happened with any shampoo? Not that I was aware! I realize sudden hair loss could happen from an eating disorder or such but from using a shampoo? I think the bottle the girl used was tampered with.

[Sylvanas]

That website seems more than a little sketchy, and to be honest I don't believe the story at all.

It really is harmful to rely on things like this to make sensationalist comments like "Pantene IS bad for your hair." Pantene is no different from any other SLS shampoo or coney conditioner, and that works for some people. I really think there's something going on in this story that we're not hearing about... I know SLS is bad for your hair but I have a REALLY hard time believing it would cause your hair to fall out in 'handfulls' just from ONE use.

I second this.

Many of the "Pantene ruins your hair"-people have never even tried it, they've just heard it from others. I have used it in the past and had great result, but that's not to say it's great for everyone. Some might even have a bad allergic reaction to the ingredients. I'm thinking someone put veet (hair removal cream) in her shampoo bottle. That would explain why the fringe went first - thinner, more fragile hair. The rest of the hair would indeed turn frizzy and probably break off.

[Teufelchen]

This story doesn't sound real to me, first of all, she is blaming SLS for it, without really knowing what it is, its not a chemical wax at all and she was probably using a shampoo with SLS before and after, just a different brand. So I think her hair loss has an entirely different reason. My aunt lost her hair in a similar way, when she had her cancer treatments.
Her face looks like she has to take some medicine on the after pic.
I think the poor girl lost her hair due to something else and some other person used her pics to tell this horror story. Maybe she doesn't even know about.
I used Pantene for years before I switched to herbal organic shampoos and had no problems at all.

[catysue]

"Chairman of the Institute of Trichologists-Marilyn Sherlock said sudden hair loss was not uncommon especially in younger women 'due to dieting and stressful busy lifestyles' and can appear to be because of a particular product.
She added: 'But quite often it's just a coincidence and could have happened with any shampoo.'"


Could have happened with any shampoo? Not that I was aware! I realize sudden hair loss could happen from an eating disorder or such but from using a shampoo? I think the bottle the girl used was tampered with.

No, she's saying that often times hair loss is caused by INTERNAL rather than EXTERNAL (product) factors and can just APPEAR to be because of whatever shampoo you're using. She's saying that it doesn't matter what shampoo it is, if you're hair is falling out because of stress or bad diet it WILL fall out no matter what product you use and you will probably think it's because of that product.

[squee]

that looks like a run in with a disgruntled room mate that spiked her shampoo with nair... or she decided to try to shave off her bangs

That is what I was thinking. :)
:(

[getoffmyskittle]

Yeah, I call shenanigans.

[sherigayle]

I would hesitate to believe anything from that website. Her hair looks more like what would happen from perming or coloring damage.

[Gothic Lolita]

just one of those blah stories again :rolleyes::shrug:


Whatever caused her hair to disappear, it most likely wasn't the Pantene. Millions of people you Pantene daily and while they might get problem with cones, none of them experiences stuff like that. And why should they? Her hair definintely doesn't look fried, nor does her scalp... more like a very bad adempt to shave the hairline. Anyways, I strongly believe that she used a SLS shampoo beforehand. If she really did look after ingredients then she probably wouldn't have fallen for Pantene's "get healthy looking hair in 10 days" add.

[Sissy]

No, she's saying that often times hair loss is caused by INTERNAL rather than EXTERNAL (product) factors and can just APPEAR to be because of whatever shampoo you're using. She's saying that it doesn't matter what shampoo it is, if you're hair is falling out because of stress or bad diet it WILL fall out no matter what product you use and you will probably think it's because of that product.

ahh, thanks... I read that wrong! That makes a lot more sense.

[Prism]

I'm not buying this story. First, the web site is sketchy. I mean they have "lies" in their URL, so that's a clue. They can't spell "sulfate" correctly (okay, maybe it's spelled like that overseas or something?).

I've used Pantene on and off for years and found them to have a great line of shampoos and conditioners. If it did stuff like the story, don't you think the gov would have moved in and investigated and yanked it from the shelves in the meantime? Wouldn't tons of consumers be warning each other based on their own experiences rather than some obscure stories on the internet?

I really hate to see the name of a good company unfairly screwed like this. I hope that they sue the mess out of the owners of that web site. The web site, rather than *suggesting* that Pantene caused problems, *declared* that it did and then went a step further to get into specifics as to their assumption. Wow, that's a legal misstep that I wouldn't want to have made.

For all of us, I think it's good to take a deep breath when you read a story like this and make sure your fear doesn't cloud your logic. This is how urban legends are started and promulgated. In fact, this prompted me to go look at Snopes, and of course it shows another myth about Pantene. Sounds like it's a popular subject. It's sad how people just take another's word as truth. I ran across other sites with women mentioning the myth, and others replying, "omg I never knew Pantene was bad for hair!" Another believer born merely from someone else's unsubstantiated claims. Sad.

[trillcat]

I also call shenanigans on this story.
In the "before" pic her hair is light with an ash tone. In the "after" pic, it's darker, and has an almost orange cast to it. My guess would be she tried to do some sort of color treatment(s) to her hair that went very wrong and is looking to place the blame on someone else to cover her butt.

[JamieLeigh]

My opinion, based on the thousands (if everyone on this site has an up-to-date profile and info) of people here who do use sulfates and have no trouble whatsoever, is that this was probably just the straw that broke the camel's back. IMO the before pic looks like a fairly high-maintenance 'do, and probably wasn't very well-taken-care of at all, in the natural sense that we gravitate towards here sometimes. The person stated that she was lacking shine and body, in that she was looking at the advert and hoping to get the same look as the featured girl, and her lackluster hair is probably the result of previous harsh treatment.

Of course I don't know this for sure, this is just a guess.

[SHELIAANN1969]

Egads! She looks weird in the second pic, her face looks swollen, I wonder if she had an allergy or did something to her hair and it made it weak and broke off?

Her hair looked really thin and dry in the first pic, I bet she bleached it to high heaven and fried it, it looks like she went on a drinking binge as well, eeeeeeeek, why is her forehead so high? It looks photoshopped, I don't know, there is something rotten in the state of Denmark!

I don't use sulfates, but still have bottles of Pantene that I use for hand washing soap, when I use sulfates it just dries my scalp out badly. I can't see a company using that harsh of chemicals and causing that to happen, they would be out of business in no time and would not have any repeat business.

[marzipanthecat]

I feel terribly sorry for the young lady, what happened to her is horrible, but I'd be really surprised if it was ONLY the Pantene at fault here. I assume something nasty got mixed up with it. Or her hair was really spectacularly damaged (I have a friend who did a home dye-and-perm job on her hair way back when we were at school, and the first time she washed her hair afterwards great clumps of it fell out like that).

[Messyhair]

Wow, that is a crazy result!!! I don't think anyone could have expected that to happen from any single shampooing incident.

I use Pantene shampoo and conditioner every day without a problem, and I used them when my hair was at waist/hips, too. I expect that she was somehow sensitive to the ingredients in the product (if it was the product at all that caused her damage) - I wonder what products she used before trying the Pantene.

[Thinthondiel]

I'm not buying this story. First, the web site is sketchy. I mean they have "lies" in their URL, so that's a clue. They can't spell "sulfate" correctly (okay, maybe it's spelled like that overseas or something?).

I agree that the website might be sketchy, but not for those reasons... "sulphate" is the correct British spelling. Also, the name of the site is 'know the lies'. I found this on their 'About' page:


So you want to know why we do what we do...

Did you ever feel like something is horribly wrong? Sometimes maybe you think it's all just in your head? We, at KnowTheLies.com, are SICK of being lied to! So we have made it our strict mission to show you that your nagging intuition is right.

Here's something to consider... If it FEELS wrong... odds are it IS wrong. Always listen your intuition. Somehow we already know but just haven't realized it.

[YesitsReal]

Well, I have a hard time believing that the Pantene alone caused her hair to fall out. I mean, Proctor & Gamble, being one of the most wealthy cosmetics companies in the industry, also has one of the biggest r&d departments. They wouldn't make so much money if they caused people's hair to fall out all the time.

Plus, the girl whose hair fell out said that SLS is a "chemical wax." SLS isn't a wax at all, it's a surfactant--a cleaner, that's all. And SLS isn't even as harsh a cleaner as a lot of people think. Some people can't use it because it irritates their scalp (like me), but most people have no problem with it.

Here are a couple of articles from the Beauty Brains (a blog authored by a team of actual cosmetic scientists) on SLS and Pantene:

http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/07/09/beauty-q-a-does-sls-dry-your-hair/

http://thebeautybrains.com/2006/07/04/is-pantene-good-or-bad-for-my-hair/

[Kya]

I really believe there is a combination of things going on with this poor woman. I certainly do not believe that one shampooing caused so much damage on her head. Enlarging the photograph reveals other issues with her hair and scalp. Hmmm ... :rolleyes:

[Copasetic]

This story was originally posted in a British tabloid paper which routinely makes things up. I don't believe a word of it. Its sensationalist trash, like the Weekly World News.

ETA: original article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250987/My-hair-fell-handfuls-I-tried-new-Pantene-shampoo.html

beauty brains response: http://www.thebeautybrains.com/vanilla/comments.php?DiscussionID=1258&page=1#Item_0

And please, consider the source, and consider the mountain of evidence to the contrary.

[Gemma]

Eh, I'm not sure what happened to that poor girl but I doubt Pantene is to blame, unless there was some kind of manufacturing fault with that particular batch. My DH has been using Pantene for years and years with no issues, and has lovely long, curly hair. Pantene never really worked for me but I don't think it's inherently bad.

[MandaMom2Three]

I haven't read all the responses, so this may have been mentioned, but looking at that pic, it just seems too precise to be hair falling out/ breaking off. There are some very straight lines, like when using a shaver, I seriously doubt all the hair in a line would all break off at the exact same place. Hate to be cynical, but I don't think the butler (Pantene LOL) did it.

[YesitsReal]

Lol...I didn't know the Beauty Brains had already replied to this one!

[Copasetic]

Lol...I didn't know the Beauty Brains had already replied to this one!

I just happened to stumble upon it yesterday :) They are pretty fast.

[SurprisingWoman]

I have two huge bottles of Pantene in my shower even as I am typing this. :)

I use Pantene a lot. Costco sends out coupons that make it pretty inexpensive and once I got past the fact that it is a P&G product I love it.

It's good to my hair, smells good and the price is right.... what's not to love?

My hair doesn't seem to be falling out. ;)

[ericthegreat]

I'm with everyone else here, I'm calling BS on this story. First off, sodium laureth sulfate is NOT a chemical wax, and as far as I know no kind of wax would make your hair literally break off. Its a detergent, one that is very common and is widely used in almost all different brands of shampoo. The billions of people around the world who used these shampoos aren't all walking around bald, in fact many of them have beautiful, full heads of hair.

If Pantene is truly as "bad" as all these stories claim it is, MANY more people would report hair damage from it, and it wouldn't sell as well internationally around the world as it does. It also wouldn't have so many devoted fans as it does who swear by Pantene and its products. I myself have used Pantene off and on again throughout the years, and I have had wonderful results with their conditioners. Even though I currently follow a no cone hair care regimen, my hair can function very well both with silicones and without them at all. The coney Pantene conditioners make my hair very shiny, smooth, and silky feeling.

[shadowclaw]

What a bizarre story. Even before reading through everyone else's replies, I pretty much knew it was BS. I agree with those who said it looked like she did some kind of bleaching/coloring to her hair in the second picture. The colors are very different, and I don't think the lighting is to blame.

If I were to guess what went wrong if the story is indeed true, I'd say she did a lot of chemical processing that fried her hair down to the roots in some places, and during the next shampoo, she probably lathered up and rubbed her her all over the place, which caused it to break.

But to me, it looks more like she just shaved her bangs off. I would think that the bald spots would be a lot more patchy if it really just fell out, whether it was the shampoo's fault or the situation I described above.

[Bonkers57]

I agree. If a huge percentage of people's hair fell out when they used this shampoo (or indeed any sulfates at all), it would have hit the national headlines. Big changes would be made to the ingredients.

I looked at a few other stories at this site and it looks like a 'conspiracy scare' site to me.

Glad to see that we have so many critical thinkers here at LHC :)


It could be just a sensitivity to the ingredients or maybe her hair was damaged prior and this was just the straw that broke the camels back so to speak.

[RavennaNight]

This seems off to me. If something as mainstream as Pantene would be making people's hair fall out wouldn't it be on TV like the Toyota recall? I used pantene for a looooong time, as I was growing up, and for a few stints recently untill I went conefree three and a half months ago. And I use SLS once a month ( before I henna) and my hair doesn't fall out from it.:confused:

[zen_oven]

I don't think I buy that story. It is definitely scary, but I don't think Pantene or SLS are specifically the culprits here.

I never did like Pantene though--made my hair feel like it was coated with plastic and the chemical smell really bothered me.

[little_cherry]

My hair suffered greatly when I was using Pantene..thing is, the cones were disguising my damaged hair, not repairing it. My hair NEVER looked like the girls in the ad...but I guess they styled their hair a lot for the ads!

[xoxophelia]

When you look closesly at the pictures, there is a "line" on her forehead where the scalp starts. I am thinking that pic is fake.

[Dreamernz]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaah! OMG, hugs and reassures the hair wimpering on her head :~(

[Prism]

After a thorough investigation into the matter, I have come to the sobering conclusion that the woman pictured is suffering from a raging case of settlementitis (itching to get a settlement for a hoax).

Prism, PI

[BlackfootHair]

The title of this thread is as ridiculous as the story itself. Hasn't it already been discussed before that everyone has different hair, and therefor one product isn't going to be the magic one for everyone?? This story is just bs. And it's sad that the manure has to be spread around with a skillet. I'm not eating it. My hair might not always love Pantene shampoo, but I'll tell you what. I've used the shampoo as shampoo and a body wash. You know what? My hair NEVER looked like that. (Although it might be nice if it had that effect on my leg hair.) From all the Pantene labels I've ever read, the most common sulfate they use is ALS and ALES. Also ALXS. Seriously? When are the chants that Pantene is evil/cones are evil/sulfates are evil going to cease? If it doesn't work for your hair, that's fine. But don't go spreading the manure around just because you don't like it. I tried many alternatives to good 'old shampoo and conditioner. My hair doesn't like them. But you don't see me starting a thread saying "Soapnuts ARE bad for your hair."-just because they make MY hair dry and tangled. I also don't start threads saying "CO DOES make your scalp gunky" just because I can't continuously use CO . Guess what conditioner I just used in my hair? Cone laden PANTENE. Yep. And my hair is firmly intact on my head. Also used a shampoo with SLS and my hair is also not falling out from that. It also had lots of cones. Know what else? My hair likes SLS much better than ALS. And that's okay.

Okay, done ranting.

[halo_tightens]

Add me to the list of LHC-ers who aren't buying this story for a second!

I've used SO much Pantene in my life it's not funny. I've even started using it again occasionally. It's not exactly battery acid, ya know?!

And I agree with the general thinking that no commonly-used shampoo is going to do this to hair. It just doesn't make any sense. How many people lather up with Pantene every day? If it could do this, all by itself, we'd be hearing a lot more about it.

I think I'll buy a new bottle today just for spite! :p

[little_cherry]

hmm...looking at the picture carefully (it didn't load before because my internet connection is below acceptable), it looks as though someone added veet hair removal creme to her shampoo..........

I wonder if it was a reaction to something she had in her hair before she shampoo'd?

[Prism]

The title of this thread is as ridiculous as the story itself....

I am not happy with the title of the thread, either. It's a statement without proof, and apparently many people are taking it at face value. I don't like how a statement like that spreads like wildfire through the internet.

No offense intended to the OP, but I do wish the thread title would be changed to something more accurate and less inflammatory. There are going to be a lot of Pantene lovers -- or even people who simply appreciate fairness and didn't see it in the linked story -- who will be irked by the title. Not sure if it's possible to change the title at this point, however.

[Kiraela]

Reading other of the articles on the website, I've decided - I will do exactly as the website asks, and know the lies. First on the docket - that entire website. I mean, anybody who pulls their articles direct from the Daily Mail... yeah. I wonder, if I searched, if they'd have articles purporting to prove the existance of Batboy and the Yeti, too?

Trust me, Jojo, the sulphates are not the problem, and will not fry your hair. Psychotic rage or depression induced scissor-grabbing might do that, but not sulphates.

[lindenblossom]

After a thorough investigation into the matter, I have come to the sobering conclusion that the woman pictured is suffering from a raging case of settlementitis (itching to get a settlement for a hoax).

Prism, PI


This was one of my thoughts too. If this is actually a real person making these claims, she's damaged her hair on purpose (it does looked shaved/hacked) and lying so as to make some money in a lawsuit. It happens. Not saying most commercial shampoos are super, but this is a pretty suspicious scenario.

Incidentally, supposedly this lady uses only Pantene products, and her hair is definitely not falling out: http://www.lhair-cz.com/katrin/index.htm

[Gypsy]

Yeah.
Bogus all around.
I doubt shampoo was the problem here.

[nory87]

I really don't think that this story is true!! It seems like it was done on purpose!! Just by looking at her hair, the way it "fell" doesn't look like the shampoo caused much rather a pair of scissors, maybe some razors and some nair. I just don't get her purpose of doing such a thing and then blame a company for it. I have used Pantene shampoo before and I never had a problem like that.

[Prism]

This was one of my thoughts too. If this is actually a real person making these claims, she's damaged her hair on purpose (it does looked shaved/hacked) and lying so as to make some money in a lawsuit. It happens. Not saying most commercial shampoos are super, but this is a pretty suspicious scenario.

Incidentally, supposedly this lady uses only Pantene products, and her hair is definitely not falling out: http://www.lhair-cz.com/katrin/index.htm

Yeah, either that or she's just dumb and has done stuff to her hair that she's not sharing. Frankly, her hair in the first picture looks overprocessed, IMO. The second one looks a bit like a home coloring job gone wrong. Either way, something doesn't add up here.

EDIT: Just looked at the link. My mom and my sis have hair that long (Mom is 70!). They don't know a thing about sulfates and cones and basically use whatever shampoo is in the shower. But neither of them add extra goop to hair. I don't think they use conditioner, either, because they've said it makes their hair more tangly. It's more what they're not doing, than anything, I think. They don't wash every day. They don't blow dry or color. They very (very) rarely curl. They don't leave their hair loose hanging down their backs because it'll get snagged on things and end up a tangled mess. They braid their hair every day and then either leave it in a braid down the back or put it up and hold it with bobby pins. And they never trim at all (it's a religion thing). That's pretty much it.

[enfys]

Oh wow would I be gutted if I did that to my hair and only got offered a fiver!

There's not much I can say that hasn't been said but I'll let you know if my hair all falls out from the SLS and cones that work better on my hair than any other method (yes, I gave them a fair try). And you know what else? My hair can look like Mylene's and I don't have a stylist.

Meanwhile, her housemate has very soft, mositurised legs that feel a bit plasticy but are still hairy....

[ademtce]

thats horrific. thank God i stopped using SLS's a year ago.
although i dont think the sulfates take all the blame, there could be other unmonitored levels in there in addition to the sulfates that caused her hair to fall out. nonetheless i would of sued Patene if i were her.

[Hana]

YOWZA. Thats not good. Poor girl.
Mind you, I have used Pantene in the past, in fact I've used many shampoos with SLS in the past, but that has never happened to me.
Could it be a reaction to another ingredient? hmmmm.

[Fractalsofhair]

Similar thing happened to me when I was 10 and used Paul Mitchell as opposed to shampoo bars. My hair just hates cones. Admittedly, my hair only got as short as my shoulders, but the ends were that bad and it had been thigh length before, so within a month, it was damaged. Using other sulphate laddened products led to frizz.

[Shermie Girl]

What a load of horse feathers.

Pantene is no more dangerous or harmful than any other shampoo or conditioner. Pantene doesn't contain waxes that melt hair. Sulphates aren't evil and cones aren't the devil. As with any product, YMMV. If they work for you, use and enjoy them. (I do. :D) If not, then don't.

FYI: Sulphate free doesn't mean gentle or natural or "good". I have used sulphate free, so called "natural" shampoos that were pure rocket fuel and left my hair looking and feeling like straw.

[Teufelchen]

...I just don't get her purpose of doing such a thing and then blame a company for it. ...

Perhaps I am really weird, but she could have been paid for doing this by another company. Just a thought.

[Gypsy]

I think this chickie better be worried about Pantene suing her for libel.
(It's libel when in print, right? Slander when spoken, libel in print??):rolleyes:

[PearlyCurly]

Reading other of the articles on the website, I've decided - I will do exactly as the website asks, and know the lies. First on the docket - that entire website. I mean, anybody who pulls their articles direct from the Daily Mail... yeah. I wonder, if I searched, if they'd have articles purporting to prove the existance of Batboy and the Yeti, too?

Trust me, Jojo, the sulphates are not the problem, and will not fry your hair. Psychotic rage or depression induced scissor-grabbing might do that, but not sulphates.

First i want to say i just love your hair!!
And i also agree with you! I think there is something stanky about this girl:poot:

I believe her "after" photo looks more like a bad hair cut! I have seen ppl loose their hair from chemicals(including myself) and i never seen patches like that, how she lost hair mostly in the front?? How her ends look cut instead of chemically burned off?? And why isnt she showing the back of her head??!....:poot:

[Bonkers57]

The hair in the Pantene ads looks synthetic to me. I've never seen anybody with hair like that 'in person'. They can (and do) all kinds of camera tricks and whatnot to make everything look perfect.

I once tried the Pantene Clarifying and it didn't work very well for me. But obviously Pantene works for some people, otherwise it wouldn't be such a popular brand.


My hair suffered greatly when I was using Pantene..thing is, the cones were disguising my damaged hair, not repairing it. My hair NEVER looked like the girls in the ad...but I guess they styled their hair a lot for the ads!

[Friesian Horse]

I also call shenanigans. She either invented the whole story and hacked off her hair to back it up, or something else happened that has nothing to do with the Pantene itself.

For what it's worth, I've used Pantene shampoo and conditioner for several years, and obviously nothing remotely like that ever happened to me.

[MandaMom2Three]

Meanwhile, her housemate has very soft, mositurised legs that feel a bit plasticy but are still hairy....

:rollin: :rollin:

[Fractalsofhair]

Looking at the photo some more, I'm curious as to why she has foundation on her scalp and no other makeup. The other articles on the site are a bit sketchy, but hair can break off with different types of shampoos and conditioners. However, if she was just using the shampoo, and had previously been using a more gentle one, I don't doubt that that could have been the straw that broke the damage, since pantene is one of the harsher ones out there(Which is why their conditioners are heavy in cones), but it's not evil for a lot of hair types. It can be evil for some hair types, but I'd be curious as to what she was using before.

[Tap Dancer]

I like Pantene. It's not "bad" based on one story.

[jojo]

That website seems more than a little sketchy, and to be honest I don't believe the story at all.

It really is harmful to rely on things like this to make sensationalist comments like "Pantene IS bad for your hair." Pantene is no different from any other SLS shampoo or coney conditioner, and that works for some people. I really think there's something going on in this story that we're not hearing about... I know SLS is bad for your hair but I have a REALLY hard time believing it would cause your hair to fall out in 'handfulls' just from ONE use. I was posting a subject which i found interesting and the title to my post is more a tongue in cheek comment than what i actually think if you read my comment in reply to what others have posted.

[jojo]

The title of this thread is as ridiculous as the story itself. Hasn't it already been discussed before that everyone has different hair, and therefor one product isn't going to be the magic one for everyone?? This story is just bs. And it's sad that the manure has to be spread around with a skillet. I'm not eating it. My hair might not always love Pantene shampoo, but I'll tell you what. I've used the shampoo as shampoo and a body wash. You know what? My hair NEVER looked like that. (Although it might be nice if it had that effect on my leg hair.) From all the Pantene labels I've ever read, the most common sulfate they use is ALS and ALES. Also ALXS. Seriously? When are the chants that Pantene is evil/cones are evil/sulfates are evil going to cease? If it doesn't work for your hair, that's fine. But don't go spreading the manure around just because you don't like it. I tried many alternatives to good 'old shampoo and conditioner. My hair doesn't like them. But you don't see me starting a thread saying "Soapnuts ARE bad for your hair."-just because they make MY hair dry and tangled. I also don't start threads saying "CO DOES make your scalp gunky" just because I can't continuously use CO . Guess what conditioner I just used in my hair? Cone laden PANTENE. Yep. And my hair is firmly intact on my head. Also used a shampoo with SLS and my hair is also not falling out from that. It also had lots of cones. Know what else? My hair likes SLS much better than ALS. And that's okay.

Okay, done ranting.
As stated before the title is tongue in cheek or sarcasum to you and no i cant spell either as I am dyslexic before you pull me to bits for that too.

I just tried to contibute by posting to LHC on a subject which I stupidly thought was of interest to this community.
sorry for being an active member, my mistake.

[SilverLocks]

Closed per request of OP.