View Full Version : does your hair "J" flip?

ali beast
February 9th, 2010, 04:53 PM
my super straight, fine hair flips out on the right side and flips under on my left side- always has, and quite dramatically at that, so that my hair looks like double J s... kind of like this: J:eyebrows:J

totally not my favorite! In my quest for long luxe hair, i'm trying VERY hard to eschew all heat devices, but with my not quite shoulder length hair, "putting it up" isn't an option yet and the flat iron sings its siren song of (temporarily) straight hair...

but! i have discovered that with practice i can do a messy french braid on the right side of my head (the flippy-outty side)- disguising the flip, and looking like i'm quite the hip, alternative lady.

i've got some layers, and they slip out of the braid, but as long as you act like you meant it, people won't bat an eye.

anyway, i figured there might be other folks out there that are frustrated with this hair phenomenon as they battle the awkward stages, and i thought i'd share this idea!

also a question! are there any long hairs who had the J flips when their hair was shorter? do they ever go away? are they actually the buds of beautiful long loose romantic curl blooms that i never knew i had bc my hair has always been SL? (hey, a kid can dream, right?;))

thanks in advance!
-ali beast

February 9th, 2010, 04:55 PM
When my hair was shoulder length it had a similar shape; now, between bsl and waist, if it still does I never notice.

February 9th, 2010, 04:58 PM
Well I have forward graduation at the front to soften my face a bit and my hair flips in exactly the same way as yours. The same directions, everything. :)

I quite like it, though I used to wish they'd both go either in or out together I don't mind anymore, and will probably keep the forward graduation forever more even as my hair (hopefully) gets really long.

However, when I was younger I had bum-length hair without the forward graduation for a time, and the flips certainly weren't there. As your hair gets longer it shouldn't do that anymore, due to the weight. :)

I'm quite intrigued to find a "flip" twin though. :p Cool! :)

ETA: You can actually see my "J flips" in my avatar, come to think of it.

February 9th, 2010, 05:10 PM
Hi, I thought I'd share this random piece of knowledge that I gleaned from who-knows-where: apparently hair follicles all over your head have the same imprinted "growth pattern" (for the lack of a better term for it). What this essentially means in consideration to your hair is that at that length, they will all flip in the same direction no matter where they are on your head.

I definitely think they'll get tamed when they're longer, or at least get weighted down :)
My curls, for instance, all curl in the same direction -- so maybe yours are baby, nascent curly/wurlies just waiting to happen! :flower: :D

February 9th, 2010, 05:10 PM
my hair definitely does that. since i have bangs sometimes the sides of my bangs flip into Js or even like, mirror image J's like little horns.

I have now a very small amount of front layers (like one on each side and is seems to help with the J's (though some people would not want to cut new layers in, I wouldn't but they were already there)

I think they must go away after your hair gets longer and heavier, or at least if they still do it it won't seem to matter when your hair is so long.

I sure hope so, sometimes my j's look so silly

February 9th, 2010, 05:28 PM
I used to think my hair was straight, but discovered that it's actually wavy. I just wasn't letting it grow long enough for the long wave pattern to reveal itself. Now that it's a bit past APL, I've discovered the technique of scrunching it with mousse. I am so happy with the results.

Also, I still use a curling iron on the face-framing layers and the very ends almost every day.

I would be willing to bet you will end up with wavy hair as it grows longer. How exciting for you!

February 9th, 2010, 05:52 PM
Oooh, I have the parallel J's, too. It does go away when my hair gets longer, and I suspect yours will as well - it just needs some more weight or.. something. I don't exactly know why, but it goes away for me.

February 9th, 2010, 05:57 PM
My hair definitely used to do that when I had a bob. It stopped when I let it do what it wanted and be curly. Also, the longer it gets, the better it hangs.

Are you sure your hair is 1a? It might be that you have a natural wave that is showing itself now that the hair is long enough. Some 1b or 1c hair shows a wave right around chin length, if you look at the hair typing pics.

[ETA] Just re-read your post. It's just a guess, as I am not a 1a myself, but the fact that you even own a flat iron suggests to me that your hair is not 1a. 1a is naturally stick-straight without ironing.

ali beast
February 9th, 2010, 07:43 PM
hey, thanks LHCers! i KNEW there were other double js out there!

this is definitely encouraging... i'm so excited to see what my hair looks like when it's longer! it's going to be such a suprise, because as i said before, my hair has never really been much longer than SL.

it's like waiting for Santa! ...for three years :P

February 9th, 2010, 07:49 PM
When my hair was around shoulder length, I had the exact same problem. It drove me crazy. Now at waist, my hair does not do "J" flip. It is quite straight. I think around APL or BSL, I no longer had that crazy flip...

February 9th, 2010, 07:58 PM
My ends flipped up like crazy from about ear length until it was around APL. At that point, the ends started laying down a bit flatter.

February 9th, 2010, 09:54 PM
Ugh, when my hair was shoulder length it did the exact same thing and it was SO frustrating! I just wore it in tiny pigtails until it grew. Now I have fairytale ends, so no flipage here :-D

February 9th, 2010, 10:01 PM
That happens. Don't worry too much because it seems like shoulder length hair does that until around APL.

February 9th, 2010, 10:54 PM
Your layers may be the facilitator. My coworker has serious layers and j flips but they are not paralel though. I get minor flip here or there occasionally

February 10th, 2010, 04:25 AM
I think it's because your strands of hair curl the same way, all over your head. If they curled mirror image to each other on opposite sides you wouldn't get that.

I take care of it by parting very far towards the "inside" J. It makes it look intentionally asymmetrical, and I think that helps.

February 10th, 2010, 09:50 AM
My hairs J flip around my face... but I only really notice them when I wake up in the morning...
Cough... :p

February 10th, 2010, 10:23 AM
My hair flips horribly and looks fairly straight besides that and some curlies underneath until it gets to about shoulder, when the wave pattern kicks in full force. I have kind of coarse hair, so that makes taming it seem absolutely impossible. Sometimes I would just put a not too big velcro roller under that part while it dried to stop the flip. I don't think it did any damage, and it keeps me sane when my layers are being unruly.

Maybe you are wavier than you think! My hair is 2c when longer and acts similarly, so you never know! :D

February 10th, 2010, 10:26 AM
Yep, my hair does this if I have any sort of layers. It just sorta moves to the sides and out, but not in a J shape, more like J and L so it's away from my face.

February 11th, 2010, 01:14 AM
When my hair was shoulder length it flipped in or out.

The J:s was most often mirrored though and for each cm or so it grew it changed the flips.

Once my hair started fall down my back the flips were gone ...

February 11th, 2010, 03:31 AM
I'm growing out my fringe so my bangs which are now about shoulder length tend to J flip. Though it's more of a forward J so the flipped end point away from my face. With a bit of teasing I can usually get them to point inwards and frame my face better. I like my J's.

Only just realised my bangs are shoulder length. Yay, yet more proof my hair is actually growing even when it doesn't feel like it is.