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PorcelainHorror
January 29th, 2010, 01:07 AM
Hello all~
So I have decided that I want to go back to my natural blonde color.
But sadly I have dyed it with permanent box dye.
Bad. I know I know.
So I was thinking, if there is a way to lighten the black to a dark brown with little to no damage?
I was going to let my blonde roots grow out for as long as I can stand it and dye them brown with temporary color so I could slowly go natural.

is this even possible?
Thank youu~

kitten1986
January 29th, 2010, 01:17 AM
I have the same problem, I have dyed my hair box permanent black for the last 10 years or so. Once I tried to bleach it out and do a brown over the top... I really dont reccommend this because it completely fried my hair and my hair soaked up the brown so much it looked practically black again :(
So I am doing the 'grow it out' thing too. Every 3 months or so I touch up the roots with a semi perm dark brown wash out box colour and I will slowly start trimming off the black ends when it reaches apl

I have read on here that you can use honey as a lightener, but I am not sure it would work on permanently dyed hair but it might be worth a try to speed things up for you

good luck... and PLEASE resist trying to bleach it out :)

PorcelainHorror
January 29th, 2010, 01:31 AM
I have the same problem, I have dyed my hair box permanent black for the last 10 years or so. Once I tried to bleach it out and do a brown over the top... I really dont reccommend this because it completely fried my hair and my hair soaked up the brown so much it looked practically black again :(
So I am doing the 'grow it out' thing too. Every 3 months or so I touch up the roots with a semi perm dark brown wash out box colour and I will slowly start trimming off the black ends when it reaches apl

I have read on here that you can use honey as a lightener, but I am not sure it would work on permanently dyed hair but it might be worth a try to speed things up for you

good luck... and PLEASE resist trying to bleach it out :)


Thanks for the help :]
I'll try the honey thing, I really hope it does something or else I'll just have to buy a cute hat and wear it for the next year haha.

manderly
January 29th, 2010, 02:15 AM
Color Fix or Color Oops.

Do not bleach out black hair dye, it doesn't work. The above two products are the same and are designed to remove the molecules of hair dye, giving you back just your hair (which will be orange due to being bleached in the hairdying process) which you can dye back closer to your natural color.

Some people claim to have damage with this, I have used it and have had none, as do most reviewers. However it is far less damaging that any other option you have, and the most successful.

PorcelainHorror
January 29th, 2010, 03:04 AM
Color Fix or Color Oops.

Do not bleach out black hair dye, it doesn't work. The above two products are the same and are designed to remove the molecules of hair dye, giving you back just your hair (which will be orange due to being bleached in the hairdying process) which you can dye back closer to your natural color.

Some people claim to have damage with this, I have used it and have had none, as do most reviewers. However it is far less damaging that any other option you have, and the most successful.

Yeah I've been looking at reviews online and I think I'm going to try Colorfix. I just wonder how it will turn out since I used to color my hair auburn about a year ago and have black over it.
I guess I'll just do a strand test and see..

xoxophelia
January 29th, 2010, 03:09 AM
Trying color oops may be a good idea but try a strand test first to make sure.

I also used a perm black but it faded pretty well from my hair on its own. But the bottom I had done with another company's black and that has all the much.. but this is what I did once to take out some of the color (semi and perm)

STEP 1:
mix:
1:1 honey, conditioner (no cone is better probably)
1/2 TBSP olive oil
1/2 to 1 tsp hydrogen peroxide at 3% dilution

(make enough to saturate your hair, like a glob in the palm of your hand)

put in your wet hair for 1 hour wrapped up and apply a little external heat for the first 5-10 minutes.

STEP 2:
wash out leaving shampoo in your hair for 10 minutes
put olive oil or whatever oil you prefer in your hair over night

STEP 3:
rinse and lightly condition optional

This helped pull out the color just enough that the demarcation line between my virgin hair (protected from the sun looks light brown) and the colored not so noticeable. I'm going to continue to just let time fade the color out but will probably have to do it again at some point.

All parts of the first 2 steps have been said to pull out color so I just hit it with all three.

This might not work for your hair, but you could try it first before color oops.

Edit: If your hair is significantly blonde, I would suggest going into a professional to get it done and also, my method will not fade your hair enough to make the "line" between the two colors less noticable. They can probably reduce the damage more than you can at home but I'm really not sure.

manderly
January 29th, 2010, 03:14 AM
Yeah I've been looking at reviews online and I think I'm going to try Colorfix. I just wonder how it will turn out since I used to color my hair auburn about a year ago and have black over it.
I guess I'll just do a strand test and see..


Doesn't matter what colors you've dyed it. Your hair will be orange when its done :) It smells awful and works really fast, just strand test and make sure to follow with a nice DT and maybe a protein filler before you redye in a more natural color to help keep it from fading.

Katze
January 29th, 2010, 03:15 AM
I dyed my hair black for a few years in my 20s and then had it bleached at a salon. They had to cut most of it off.

Those products weren't around back then so I didn't try them. What I did do was put blue temp. color over my roots, which would then 'brighten' faded black dye (and mixed with my white face makeup made for a nice dead look). Eventually I just bleached and cut (see above).

Black to blonde - even dark blonde - is no fun. Sun, honey, etc will fade the dye, but eventually, unless you like the two toned look, you are going to have to cut. The plus of that is that you can start anew with virgin hair!

manderly
January 29th, 2010, 03:26 AM
FYI, my hair has been coloroopsed and then dyed to a color close to my natural color. I've dyed several times as hairdye eventually fades and gets kind of orange near the ends. You can see my avatar, siggy, and profile pic that my hair looks pretty normal. No two tone (nothing beyond natural at least) and pretty undamaged.

Take that info for what its worth. :shrug: :)

akilina
January 29th, 2010, 05:50 AM
Try color fix. It will most likely though turn your hair into an orangey red color. And follow the directions as they say only because basically if you dont your hair can end up just going dark again. It happened to meh :/ but i would nottttt try color oops. I used it thinking it might be nice if it worked because it was cheaper than colorfix and it even wiped out the color in my virgin hair and turned it white. It was ridiculous. I was pretty mad too. I had black hair as well and I ended up going to the salon and getting a few different shades of highlights to make my hair light enough a month ago...for my virgin hair is super light goldish shiny light blond.! I'm trying to grow out all my dye and just have my own hair color or at least be able to see it : ] havent seen it in a good 5 years.

jojo
January 29th, 2010, 06:03 AM
FYI, my hair has been coloroopsed and then dyed to a color close to my natural color. I've dyed several times as hairdye eventually fades and gets kind of orange near the ends. You can see my avatar, siggy, and profile pic that my hair looks pretty normal. No two tone (nothing beyond natural at least) and pretty undamaged.

Take that info for what its worth. :shrug: :) i always thought that was virgin hair and i agree stripping does turn hair orange!

Airisuu
January 29th, 2010, 08:57 AM
I was in your situation, but I'm ashamed to say that in the end I resorted to a combination of bleaching, cutting, and walking around for a good year with rainbow hair. I lost a great deal of length and thickness; I went from mid-back to shoulder and then several months later I went from APL back to shoulder to tidy up the ends and get rid of the last of the damage.

If you do decide to do some lightening but are unwilling to sport tri-color hair until it grows out, I personally recommend 'Jazzing' temporary hair dye :) I've had great luck with it, and it's very gentle on hair and can be used immediately after bleaching or relaxing. (There's no peroxide or developer in it, it's deposit only.)

missy60
January 29th, 2010, 09:12 AM
The Color Works might work, but be sure to have a new color ready to apply afterwards. It will be orange and you need to tone it after. I have used Color Works before and it didnt do any long term damage to my hair. It was a little dry afterwards but with two processes that was to be expected. You could go to Robert Craigs website and get advice about Color Works and what tone of color to apply afterwards. Even if you dont buy the products from them they are very knowledgable and are suppose to be professionals.

manderly
January 29th, 2010, 12:38 PM
i always thought that was virgin hair and i agree stripping does turn hair orange!

Thanks! :flower: But no, the color removers don't turn hair orange, they reveal they hair that was bleached by the hair dye prior to depositing its color :) Hair dye works like this: bleach and lift existing color, deposit new dye molecules into vacant space left in hair shaft. Color removers swell up the color molecules, releasing them from the hair shaft, so the user is left with the bleached and swiss-cheesy hair, hence the need for a protein filler/DT/and another deposit of color :D

Hudar
January 29th, 2010, 06:11 PM
try colorfix.
it worked for me.
find it at sallys beauty

Druid of Alba
January 29th, 2010, 09:36 PM
Lemon juice?
Honey?
Sunlight?
Hydrogen Peroxide? Although it may be damaging.

Shermie Girl
January 29th, 2010, 11:10 PM
I would try strand testing ColorFix. That will probably be your best chance to get the black dye out of your hair. After your initial test, let it sit around for a day or three to see if it darkens, again. If it does, you will have to repeat the strand test.

Once the strand test is lightened to your satisfaction, it will most likely be a red/orangish colour. That is from the peroxide in your hair dye lifting your natural or previous colour to deposit the black toner. You will have to colour your newly lifted hair. I agree with Manderly, you will probably benefit from using a filler prior to colouring. Save the strand test to test the new, blonde colour. You will want to see how your new colour looks on previously processed hair. :D

Watch and note your timing during your strand tests, you are going to need that information when you do your whole head.

Have fun and I hope that it all works out for you. And don't forget to post pics. :D

Leena7
January 29th, 2010, 11:39 PM
Color Oops is known to leave your hair orangey. If you try this option, you will probably need to dye over it or at least use a toner. I would recommend letting your roots grow out. The black color will probably fade a little bit over time. I would also deep condition regularly and possibly see a good hair colorist who would be able to do a corrective coloring process.

SandyStar
January 30th, 2010, 12:54 AM
Good luck to you. I know the horrors of trying to get black hair blonde and it was no fun at all. I wasn't even trying to dye my whole head.

I hope you don't have to resort to bleach. I'm not sure the honey will work because it is a very mild bleaching method, but it wouldn't hurt.

Maybe just learn to live with darker hair for a while and let it grow out naturally.