what is the diffrence between temporary and semi permenant hair color?

[redneckprincess]

this stuff (http://www.sallybeauty.com/Sheer-Haircolor/SBS-320944,default,pd.html) says if you use heat it becomes a semi permenant and without it its temporary?


sorry so many posts and questions but I want to be absoutly sure of whatever i decide to do, before I do it..thanks

[coscass]

I used something like this on my friend for her highlights I bleached out. Temporary starts to fade from the first time you wash it, and is normally for people who aren't sure if they want to commit to a colour, sort of like a try-it-out dealio, whereas semi-perm has smaller molecules which penetrate the hair shaft much deeper, allowing it to stay much longer. It gives more of a natural result.


EDIT: If you have really dry hair, though, you could end up with a bit of colour left over that might take another wash or two.

[redneckprincess]

I used something like this on my friend for her highlights I bleached out. Temporary starts to fade from the first time you wash it, and is normally for people who aren't sure if they want to commit to a colour, sort of like a try-it-out dealio, whereas semi-perm has smaller molecules which penetrate the hair shaft much deeper, allowing it to stay much longer. It gives more of a natural result.


EDIT: If you have really dry hair, though, you could end up with a bit of colour left over that might take another wash or two.
so it dosent make it damaging or anything, I dont care it it stays on the bleached bits longer, but if I wind up having to put it on like an all over color I want it to fade completly off my virgin color...leaving no damaging effects on either color :)

[Honey39]

I used to do a lot of that kind of colour when I was younger, and I have to be honest, they did do a fair bit of damage. I don't think they ever totally came off my hair, maybe about a year later they had faded right down, but it wasn't the same.

Maybe techniques have changed now, but I always thought any kind of box dye was somewhat damaging? (You're speaking to someone who lowlights her hair every quarter, I am not precious about these things!).

[coscass]

so it dosent make it damaging or anything, I dont care it it stays on the bleached bits longer, but if I wind up having to put it on like an all over color I want it to fade completly off my virgin color...leaving no damaging effects on either color :)
It's supposed to work like that, yeah. And it should. My friend back in HS did a dark red on her virgin blond hair, and it washed out within the week. There are a lot of variables,though, and things can go wrong. Bad batch of dye, outdated, etc.

[redneckprincess]

I used to do a lot of that kind of colour when I was younger, and I have to be honest, they did do a fair bit of damage. I don't think they ever totally came off my hair, maybe about a year later they had faded right down, but it wasn't the same.

Maybe techniques have changed now, but I always thought any kind of box dye was somewhat damaging? (You're speaking to someone who lowlights her hair every quarter, I am not precious about these things!).

could the damage have been caused from leaving it on to long or something else?

[Latin Tea]

I'm still sporting Natural Instincts Medium Brown that from back in July. If I had known it would not wash out in '28 washes' I would never have put it in. Yuck. Now it's a faded light brownish color. Don't believe anything they say. :(

[Bellalalala]

Neither will completely wash out if you use it on already lightened hair.

Temporary is very superficial, and washes out much quicker, whereas semi-permanent seems to wash out gradually, but never completely.

Again though, neither will completely leave lightened hair, and the leftover colour may end up extremely flat and muddy.

I've even had those color-mousse things leave colour permanently on lightened hair, and that's pretty much the most temporary colour you can use.

[enfys]

In my mind temporary is less permanent than semi permanent, but there's a chance anything could turn out to be permanent on you.

I used a 28 washes semi permanent black dye at hallowe'en and it still hasn't all washed or faded out, but colour still comes off when I wash it.

Bear in mind that here we tend to wash less often and with milder shampoos than most of the population so the boxes can only provide a rough guide. Most dye sticks better to damaged hair in most cases.

[Honey39]

could the damage have been caused from leaving it on to long or something else?

I suppose it might have been build-up from doing it a couple of times? But I didn't blow-dry or straighten, so I don't think so. It just left my hair really wirey and with that 'dyed' feeling. I think I went for semi-permanent red colour, and in the end I just had to grow it all out and cut it off.

Now I get low-lights, and they seem to work a lot better, but I take very good care of my hair now (oiling etc).

Am sure it will be fine, you take great care of your hair!!

[Isilme]

generally if it doesn't contain peroxide or ammonia it's not damaging. If it contains either of those two things it will never leave the hair as it was before.

[Pear Martini]

I'm still sporting Natural Instincts Medium Brown that from back in July. If I had known it would not wash out in '28 washes' I would never have put it in. Yuck. Now it's a faded light brownish color. Don't believe anything they say. :(

Yep. I used natural instincts in natural black and its faded a little but not much. You might as well dye your hair with permenant dye, its easier to remove than natural instincts :rolleyes:

[Eniratak]

I don't really know the difference.
However I do know that I dyed my hair red with semi-permanent in seventh grade and it still hasn't come out five years later.
So. XD.

[redneckprincess]

I'm not planning to use a box dye or a natural instencts. I want to use more of a color rince or manic panic vegitable dye, one jar, no mixing,no amonia or peroxide... if I color it and it sticks to the blonde, that's great, that's what I'm trying to do with this whole mess anyways

[Mutinous]

Another risk is that it will wash out your virgin hair but not your bleach (as lighter, bleached parts soak in the colour more), so you will end up with your virgin hair again after the 28 washes and a lank, washed out colour on your blonde. It is also highly likely that the colour will take differently to your virgin hair than to your bleached hair, so it could stay two toned anyway, though more subdued. Hope this helps :)

[Bellalalala]

Okay, well now that I know what you're trying to do, I can give you a little more info.

Okay, so a temporary, colour-deposit only colour will be best for not leaving any colour on your virgin hair. Although, with hair-colour, there is never a guarantee that it will completely wash out. My hair is naturally porous, and I still have some red pigment on some of my virgin length from 2 years ago.
So, no matter what you put on your length, be prepared to accept it if it doesn't ever leave.

Now, how your lightened length will respond is also tricky.
It may super-absorb any dark pigments at first, then mostly spit it out leaving it a pale mud or worse, muddy green colour. Boo.
That said, it could end up lovely.
I would recommend doing one streak and seeing how it takes and fades over time.

I've grown out bleached hair 3 times now, and it's never ever easy.
The worst case scenario is when I used a medium brown dye that made my porous blong length an ashy dark dark brown, and lightened my virgin hair (14 inches!!) a nice shade of orange.
Brutal. Ick.
Oh...and that was "semi-permanent"

[redneckprincess]

Another risk is that it will wash out your virgin hair but not your bleach (as lighter, bleached parts soak in the colour more), so you will end up with your virgin hair again after the 28 washes and a lank, washed out colour on your blonde. It is also highly likely that the colour will take differently to your virgin hair than to your bleached hair, so it could stay two toned anyway, though more subdued. Hope this helps :)

actually as long as the bleached parts matched the virgin color BETTER Id be completly fine with that...this year (i guess) is going to be a trimming year to eventually trim away all of the leftover bleach and damage...


Okay, well now that I know what you're trying to do, I can give you a little more info.

Okay, so a temporary, colour-deposit only colour will be best for not leaving any colour on your virgin hair. Although, with hair-colour, there is never a guarantee that it will completely wash out. My hair is naturally porous, and I still have some red pigment on some of my virgin length from 2 years ago.
So, no matter what you put on your length, be prepared to accept it if it doesn't ever leave.

Now, how your lightened length will respond is also tricky.
It may super-absorb any dark pigments at first, then mostly spit it out leaving it a pale mud or worse, muddy green colour. Boo.
That said, it could end up lovely.
I would recommend doing one streak and seeing how it takes and fades over time.

I've grown out bleached hair 3 times now, and it's never ever easy.
The worst case scenario is when I used a medium brown dye that made my porous blong length an ashy dark dark brown, and lightened my virgin hair (14 inches!!) a nice shade of orange.
Brutal. Ick.
Oh...and that was "semi-permanent"

I do know this...my lightened hair does NOT hold on to my "funky" colors even HALF as well as my virgin color...so with knowing that Im sure If I find a color I like I will be putting it in ALL the time...but if I can get exactly what Im after Im completly ok with that

yes I am planning the streak test...only problem is, if that turns out bad it will show..(the only lightened hair I have left is on the top (outer) layers...think pony tail of a half up

[jojo]

The thing with any dye and I have used so called semi and temp ones and they never are! it depends on how porous your hair is, with bleach on your hair will soak it in and keep it! and yes it looks nice at first and will make your hair look shiny but after a while it will get dull, so you dye again to get the same result and more clings.

This is why I prefer highlights as yes the bleach is damaging but I never go over old bleach and only get the roots done, its a more 'healthier way' of colouring hair. You could always get low lights and just have the roots done?

[jojo]

oops double post, how the heck did that happen?

[Bellalalala]

Yeah, but even if your streak turns out not exactly right, it will probably end up pretty subtle and not very noticeable.

[redneckprincess]

Yeah, but even if your streak turns out not exactly right, it will probably end up pretty subtle and not very noticeable.
I was thinking it would at least match better then what I have now, lol

[jojo]

I was thinking it would at least match better then what I have now, lol
you know i dont think your roots are all that noticable, as the years go by and it gets longer this will become less noticable. Your hair is looking the best ive seen it and is growing quickly but if you are going to colour have it done in a salon and just go for highlights or lowlights, just fine ones.

[Darkhorse1]

I haven't read the answers but I asked my hair dresser about this. Temporary colors wash out within a week of shampooing because I think it just coats the hair. Semi permanent also does the same, but I think it's a demi permanent color that uses something that opens the cuticle to allow the hair to absorb the color.

The best person to ask is a colorist. They've been educated in all the different methods of coloring and can help you understand the process :) There are a few on this site too :D

[suicides_eve]

Sally's sells a semi hair color remover.
this is from Ulta's website but Sally's has it there as well. The stuff i use to use to remove my manic panic is no longer sold. well it has been like 11 years since I did all that. any way:
http://www.ulta.com/ulta/browse/productDetail.jsp?skuId=2143429&productId=xlsImpprod620020&navAction=push&navCount=1&categoryId=cat120040

[redneckprincess]

Sally's sells a semi hair color remover.
this is from Ulta's website but Sally's has it there as well. The stuff i use to use to remove my manic panic is no longer sold. well it has been like 11 years since I did all that. any way:
http://www.ulta.com/ulta/browse/productDetail.jsp?skuId=2143429&productId=xlsImpprod620020&navAction=push&navCount=1&categoryId=cat120040
thank you but Im really liking this color, I dont want to remove it, im planning on it removing itself, lol

[jivete]

If I were you, I would just dye the bleached length and leave my virgin roots alone. You can do this by putting the hair in a couple of pony tails, dying the ponys and putting plastic baggies over them while the dye does its magic. I do this with henna and katam to get my old dyed length to better match my roots (the length tends to get brassy). The Jazzing would work similar because I don't think it needs a developer, you just squirt it out of the bottle. If you never put it on your virgin length, you don't have to worry about altering that color or the hair.

[LaurelSpring]

The heat makes it penetrate deeper. I used one of these awhile back and didnt like it very much. If your ends are porous it could be around a long time as others have said. I noticed that this one seems to be marketed toward African American hair to be used after a relaxer. I dont know if that makes any difference.

[redneckprincess]

The heat makes it penetrate deeper. I used one of these awhile back and didnt like it very much. If your ends are porous it could be around a long time as others have said. I noticed that this one seems to be marketed toward African American hair to be used after a relaxer. I dont know if that makes any difference.
If it stays on the blonde bits a bit longer thats ok with me, I am so done with the blonde ends

[XJawbreaker]

I've actually used that stuff.
I put this purpley color in my hair over the summer and it was supposed to wash out in a few weeks, but here I am almost 6 months later with it still in my hair.
Granted its very very faint, but its there and if you look hard enough you can see it.[/COLOR]

[suicides_eve]

I'm confused?? you want a semi permant hair dye to not rinse out? Why not go with a permanent then??